Ten numbs music isn't my cup of tea. I mean c'mon man, where is your taste in music?

Quote from: Phobos on July 31, 2013, 06:33:08 PM
Saluting the guy who says all swbf mods suck, really says alot about you. Radar is not bad just because you think it is, as I have already explained that it is a fair advantage, like skins and no brush map mods. So your opinion is your opinion, but not one backed by logic.

All hail Wusi

Quote from: Buckler on July 31, 2013, 06:28:51 PM
I am hoping that things will get worked out on their own.

Otherwise, there is that parable about splitting the baby in half 

BTW its not 50/50
Yes.
12 (32.4%)
No.
19 (51.4%)
Idc.
6 (16.2%)

Quote from: Phobos on July 31, 2013, 06:26:54 PM
Corrected, see the fact that they are fair and not bad or unfair.

Uhh Yea man.. If you could interpret my other passages, I meant to say that
1 = radar bad
2 = skins good
3 = maps good

I didn't state anything other than that in my previous passages.
I also salute babyeater for making the best post I have seen on here..

Quote from: Phobos on July 31, 2013, 06:21:57 PM
Your claims about skin and radar mods being "unfair" are ludicrous and incorrect. Re-read my previous post which pointed out your contradiction. At least define the difference  between fair and unfair as I have.

This is hopeless dude.. Let me spell it to you in simple terms even you might understand.
1. radar and modifications similar to radar = bad
2. skins = good
3. maps = good

I hope I didn't go to fast for you this time

Quote from: Buckler on July 31, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
You guys keep chasing around in circles.

I will make an executive decision soon if you can't and it will be a compromise position.

If you can't figure it out in 24 hours, you have a choice of the compromise or no ICW3 organized by SWBFgamers.

How about instead of listening to us yell at eachother.. Why don't you look at the votes and see which answer gets the highest amount of votes? Oh logic.. yea a lot of us cannot think about that anymore.. (No offense intended)

Quote from: Phobos on July 31, 2013, 06:15:32 PM
You specifically said"any mod that gives an advantage." Map skins with removed brush give an advantage, so now you are contradicting yourself by claiming that you aren't against maps and reskins.

Radar is a mod that gives a fair advantage, it is fair because every player can choose to use it or not. It would only be unfair if certain players players could not use the mod, but there is nothing a server host can do to prevent radar, thus making it FAIR.

The radar mod has not ruined traditional values and settings because it has existed before any tournaments did, or even modding itself. It did not ruin the first two ICWs and would not ruin this one.

Strike 2... If you could read this of course... I didn't contradict myself because I am not a heavy "mod" user myself. I only know of the normal texture skins for star wars battlefront that change the appearance of a side as in: the rebels will look like imperials or the imperials will look like rebels; different color uniforms; so on and so forth. Custom maps.. how could that ever be an unfair advantage? Maps are always updated or posted somewhere in the mod section of the star wars community..

Quote from: Ten Numb on July 31, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
Doesn't really matter, whoever wants to use radar in the tournament will use it anyway. With a slim chance of getting caught.

Then why was this forum created in the first place? We all know who is going to use the radar and who isn't. If that isn't obvious to you, then you need to see your optometrist to check your eyes out again.

Quote from: Phobos on July 31, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
I don't see how mods can 'ruin tournaments' after all half the maps are mods. Adding radar to them is just as easy as adding the map to the addon folder. Opposing all types of mods for a tournament results in ruining the fun of players who enjoy modifying the aesthetics of their game screen. Modding tools for swbf1 would have never been released if pandemic was against modding the game. It's more like the hate towards mods ruins the fun not the mods themselves.

Attention Phobos,

If you read my post correctly, I stated that I was against modifications to be used in ANY Star Wars Tournament such as RADAR and modifications SIMILAR TO RADAR! Maps and texture packs (for example) do not fit in this category. So please, if you are going to debate with me.. do it correctly . As of now, I simply urge everyone to vote NO on this topic. Radar is a modification that gives an unfair advantage to the user over every other player. Yes, I also do think that a modification SIMILAR TO radar will ruin THE TOURNAMENT(S). The radar modification will ruin the traditional values and settings of the star wars battlefront tournament. Again, I DO NOT CARE IF YOU USE ANY MODIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER IN YOUR OWN SERVER!!

Thank you,

{DarkSith}General.Kevin

*Note: Nothing I say or do on these forums represents {DarkSith} in any way, shape, or form.

Hello everyone,

I hate to state the same opinion as my fellow "star wars gamers" here, but I want to comment about my opinion on this so called radar. I believe that radar should be disallowed from any gaming tournament along with any other modifications that allows a user to gain an advantage over the other player. This radar modification and any other modification similar to this would ruin the fun of the game and destroy a special tournament started up by a very good and friendly bunch of people. In saying this, I don't really care what modifications people use on their own server, private or public. I simply hope that these kinds of modifications will stay out of "star wars tournaments" for a very long time.

Thank you all,

{DarkSith}General.Kevin - The Republic Military, Advanced Assault - Star Wars: The Old Republic : The Harbinger Server (USA).