Quote from: Phobos on September 02, 2013, 10:13:22 AM
SirPimped glitched by accident as he already explained. If he was waiting for people in the glitch to kill, he would have killed birdo from the glitch.

Then 212 would be penalized twice for using jets after asked not to.

212 had jets only once (Nico) Which was at the start of the game. By the time the 2nd tank had arrived at the CP he had switched. This other Jet there was no such thing (no proof either) and the tank was taken by Birdo because it was left in a crack in the back (which anyone can get to not just jets)

And switching sides during the game AND stealing a tank is 10 times worse then 212 having a single jet out during the beginning of the match who didn't do anything.

And why the hell is there a rematch for Russia? We played it fairly and your taking it back? Just because YAK whined about it and Enten and 1.0 didn't do in previous matches.. YAK get special privileges?
No screw that. YAK isn't a little princess. If Enten and 1.0 had matches before with recon spamming then there is no reason for a rematch. And there won't be if you want us to keep playing in the ICW3.
No one wants to play a rigged event.

Quote from: [FC]Kishan on September 02, 2013, 07:33:02 AM


you didn't make anything anyder you just dragged and drop pointless clips that show nothing without doing a thing to them 

Wow thank god Birdo was videoing that and caught SirPimped. Kishan do you have eyes? He was clearly already in the glitch waiting for someone to pass by. His cross hair was already red before he went around the corner. If Sirpimped found that glitch by mistake he would of walked right through it in the time it took. But he was just standing there in the glitch. 

Also the Russia match there is no reason for a rematch. Yes we were accused of to many mercs(after the match ) but we clearly had pointed out who is who and that problem was resolved by Phantom and I. There shouldn't be a need for a rematch on Russia. And there won't be a rematch just because of recon spamming.  Especially when 1.0 and Enten had these battles on Russia before WITH OVEN and there was no reason to redo that match just because of recons. YAK doesn't get special treatment just because they complained to much. 

And if Harbour has a rematch YAK should be penalized for switching teams and stealing a tank. 

Not doing Rematch for Russia since it was clearly not one of the problems. The people who were accused of being a merc in Russia has already been solved.

Kamino was also won fairly.

If you wanted to do a rematch it would make more sense for Harbour maybe only. That is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

No rematches for either. This isn't funny.

Quote from: Phobos on September 01, 2013, 07:23:20 PM
birdo might not have been the jet but there was someone who used jet to take the tank on mountain.
using jets is unacceptable especially after being told not to.

Then this will just make a good reminder to take a picture of anyone breaking the rules such as being a Jet. So far I don't see any evidence to show otherwise.
And true people should know not to be jet, but switching sides and stealing tanks? That is just common sense. 

Although there might of been to many mercs. Lets not forget what YAK did with switching sides during the game to grab a tank back to their base that was taken by Birdo (who wasn't jet).
That is still unacceptable.

Quote from: Dark_Phantom on September 01, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
I believe Majesty should be banned from the ICW3 for blatantly disobeying rules which he/she was clearly warned about many times in servers, repeatedly saying "idc" or something like that, and continuing.  Poor sportsmanship is not on my list of top things to endorse.

The issue currently in question is whether clans that were previously in ICW3 are allowed to join other clans.  The players that were listed as mercs, most of them had their clans knocked out.  If those players are allowed to join other clans, then the merc rule was followed.  If not, then the battle at Russia was lost.
Members under question:
(Phobos Post)
- Killfire - merc
- Erweitert - A UEF who joined 1.0
- Anyder - A UEF who joined 1.0
- Wusi Wild - A WUSI, most WUSI members left joined 1.0 for ICW
- Nico - Nico is a member, confirmed
- Troy -  A WUSI, joined 1.0
- 212 Dirty harry - merc
- FrenchFryZ - merc


- Better Off Dead - A WUSI, joined 1.0
- Engel - umm we really aren't sure how this one works.  Says not aligned with any clan, yet no merc tag


Also, most EnTen members joined 1.0 for remainder of ICW3 (Jumper, Deagle, etc.)

Thanks Phantom for clearing things up. As you see only Harry, Fry, Engel, and KF were Mercs.

Mercs: 4
Dirty Harry (212)
FrenchFry (212)
KF
Engel (212)


1.0 members: 14
Wild
Anime
Super
Sammy
Menace
Civic
Jed
"family"
Nico
Erweitert (Anyders brother in 1.0)
Anyder (Member of PRO who is in 1.0 clan)
Troy (Another member for 1.0 in the icw3 who isn't from a previous icw3 clan)
Jumper (Joined after Enten Dropped)
Better Off Dead (Another member for 1.0 in the icw3 who isn't from a previous icw3 clan)

The only thing Arguable here is that whether a member of a previous clan of the icw3 is allowed to join a different clan during it. Which is Ovens choice. If you guys had a problem about it why was it not said at the beginning of the match before it was played? Why did no admin have a problem about it during the beginnning?

Quote from: Phobos on September 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
you guys won on kamino and we aren't complaining (because the merc rule was apparently followed this time). you broke the merc rule on RUSSIA which i have already explained.

i know majesty cussed alot and he was kicked from YAK because of it, but please dont cuss here too.

The Merc rule on Russia was followed. We have explained it many times.

I'd like to request a Ban of Majesty in the ICW3.
Every game she/he has been it she/he has always made rude remarks to our players. At first it was little things but now it has come to my attention to ask an Admin to do something about it. It really erupted today at Kamino.
Please look at the chats.

http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128787232 First thing Maj said.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128787237 this one is viewer discretion advise for young  viewers and in this case is has Majesty with the F bomb calling us Hippos(LoL)
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128787245 this one is also calling Anyder a nose of a Hippo?
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128787247 This one has Shazam having to kick Majesty out and Majesty is like "I DONT CARE AHAHAHA"

There were other things said but i don't have all the pics

GG's on Kastel and Kamino.

WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: post on the forums
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: to  kishan
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: this message
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: you would know what happened kishan since you were the one who stole the tank to make it respawn.
Message from Birdo.

I'll help be an admin if you have room.

Quote from: Shazam on August 31, 2013, 02:48:38 PM
The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.

I've decided that YAK defended Harbour, but lost Russia.

On Harbour, Rage and I were at the main Republic CP towards the beginning of the match (via tank).  I got out of the tank and I almost had the CP captured, until a jet killed me. That one CP would have changed the outcome of the battle, in my opinion.  I also want to let YAK keep Harbour because we were outnumbered by the end of the match, but the rules aren't very clear on what happens when people lag out or crash.

I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

There really isn't any need for more arguement.  Everything that happened has been said and Oven can review our posts and decide who won what.

Um you left out the part where your member switched sides to steal a tank back.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781585 this one shows the switched member.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781597 this one shows the YAK member in our base.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781598 This one shows them driving it back to their CP.

Yes we had a slight Jet problem IN THE BEGINNING (Nico). Not by the time the 2nd Tank came to our cp. As witness by Birdo(jamman) and me.

Gen.Hond{snp}: And If we had a problem with Mercs why did no ICW Admin address this? Why wasn't this talked about? No one complained until after the Fact. We did not cheat or use to many mercs. Any issue that you had should of been said in the beginning and not now. Its after the fact and we won fairly.  You don't complain about after you lose. Say something next time IN THE BEGINNING!

WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|:
Gen.Hond{snp}: Did you take the 2nd tank that yak left? And how did they die?
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: ya i took it
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: it was int he crevice
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: rage and someone else drove it there
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: they jumped out and died
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: the tank was about to die
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i hopped into it healed it a little
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: and then drove it to the repair droid
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i think they died
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: from jumping into the crevice
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: you know that crevice?
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i PERSONALLY took both the tanks

No jet killed them. And it was their fault for hoping out of the tank so we got it back.

Quote from: evosoul on August 31, 2013, 02:35:55 PM
Allright guys, I don't know if you want my opinion but I will give it anyway
The rules are not clear in the case that players who are out of the tournament (like the Enten players) are not allowed to join another clan for the tournament.
UEF left the tournament 2 weeks ago and Anyder changed the Clan. Oven Allowed or not? And even if not, he played for 1.0 against Yak in the last week. And no one bats an eye. This week, yak lost the battles against 1.0 and now they are saying that Anyder isnt allowed to play? Why now and not last week? I dont want to insult any of the Yak Players. But if they are only arguing when they lose than they couldn't admit a defeat.
Jumper is a member of the Enten who is already out of Tournament and joined 1.0 for the rest of it.
Killfire was an independent player in this tournament who merced for yak and 1.0 but he decided to join forces with 1.0 for the rest of the tournament.
Sammy is a regular member of 1.0
erweitert joined 1.0 for this tournament too.
Anyder = i explained it on the top
With Jumper, Killfire, Sammy, erweitert and Anyder 1.0 had12 regular members (due to the rules) and 5 mercs.
and there is a rule that says:
"In a match, at most one-third (1/3) of the players on a clan's side may be non-clan members. In other words, a 2:1 ration of clan:nonclan must be obeyed."
they had more than enough regular players and was allowed to use the rest as mercs.

Exactly correct.

Attacking clan: 1.0
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Kamino
1.0's side: CIS CW
Day/time: Sunday, 3:00 PM EST

It would of been nicer for an earlier response plan wise  (Luckily no matches today)

Anyways Shazam we all know rules are rules but they don't last forever and can be changed. 1 planet does not make a difference unless it is one of last of maybe 3 planets remaining for a clan. Whether you thought for it fairly or was thinking for the better of YAK/FC I hope you know rules don't last and can be changeable.

Thanks anyways for an answer though.

Attacking clan: 1.0
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Eddies Kastel
1.0's side: TBD (should have by tomorrow)
Day/time: Sunday, 2:00 PM EST

Attacking clan: 1.0
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Coruscant: Streets
1.0's side: Rebels GCW
Day/time: Sunday, 3:00 PM EST

Yes if you haven't realized 1.0 isn't touching Streets. The reason I put that there is because Oven hasn't said yes or no about Enten allowing us their last planet. If he decides that Entens only planet is to important to give away to us and makes it Native then we will have a different planet scheduled tomorrow for the same time (sides and era may differ).

Also if it does become a 1.0 planet we will accept Yaks attack on it and will defend it instead of Natives.

Until then I'll leave it up as Streets. So please don't argue until Oven says something. Thanks