So I managed to make a deal with my parents and they are letting me purchase an old original xbox and the SWBFI and II games for the xbox. Now I need your help in finding the lowest prices, but the greatest quality for the products specified above ( greatest for a used product of course ). If any of you know of any honest and good quality products sites please give me a link! Thank you! :cheers:
<a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=XBOX+EBAY">Whoa man, whoa.</a>
Haven't you got some kind of local game shop where they sell second hand consoles etc?
The internet is always the answer, you might have to look around in the real world for the best offer.
Hold up, now I'm leaning toward a PS2. It is a cheaper console, and cheaper SWBFI and II games.
I have this for the PS2 console: http://www.jjgames.com/product/654
This for the SWBFI game: http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront/32865
This for the SWBFII game: http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront-ii/38695
and I still need to find a cheap controller.
Any suggestions?
I'd suggest getting an xbox over a ps2 if you plan on playing SWBF I and II because the graphics were better on the xbox than on the ps2 for both games.
It's better if you hit up your local gamestop and buy a used xbox 360 for ~120. In the long run it'll play current gen games (this gen is going to last until ~2015 anyway) and it'll play xbox 1 games. You're missing out on a lot of great games that are on the xbox 360!
45 dollar xbox with cables, 1 game, 1 controller, 1 memory card:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Microsoft-Xbox-Lot-1-Game-1-Memory-Card-/251183390038?pt=Video_Games&hash=item3a7bb25d56
Get it before someone else does!
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
I'd suggest getting an xbox over a ps2 if you plan on playing SWBF I and II because the graphics were better on the xbox than on the ps2 for both games.
It's better if you hit up your local gamestop and buy a used xbox 360 for ~120. In the long run it'll play current gen games (this gen is going to last until ~2015 anyway) and it'll play xbox 1 games. You're missing out on a lot of great games that are on the xbox 360!
Yeah, the original Xbox 360 (read: not the slim version) will be fine provided that (a) it has hard drive space and (b) you don't plan on playing Xbox LIVE because I think (I've never had anything but slim) you would need an additional adapter.
Quote from: UNIT 33 on November 18, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
<a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=XBOX+EBAY">Whoa man, whoa.</a>
Even better search: http://bit.ly/Wfn3Cg
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
I'd suggest getting an xbox over a ps2 if you plan on playing SWBF I and II because the graphics were better on the xbox than on the ps2 for both games.
It's better if you hit up your local gamestop and buy a used xbox 360 for ~120. In the long run it'll play current gen games (this gen is going to last until ~2015 anyway) and it'll play xbox 1 games. You're missing out on a lot of great games that are on the xbox 360!
The thing is that I'm not really a "gamer." I really only want to get the PS2 or xbox to play SWBFI and II with my little brother and/or his/my friends. IF I were to get other games they would be Star Wars games. Nothing else. And since all the "new" Star Wars games are crap I wouldn't mind not getting a 360.
AND the most SERIOUS reason to get a PS2, I can play with Tirpider! :cheer: lol, So taking newer games out of the question and putting price as the main concern is the PS2 the best?
Oh and my dad won't get anything from ebay. Sorry. :shrug:
Quote from: BlackScorpion on November 18, 2012, 01:38:45 PM
Yeah, the original Xbox 360 (read: not the slim version) will be fine provided that (a) it has hard drive space and (b) you don't plan on playing Xbox LIVE because I think (I've never had anything but slim) you would need an additional adapter.
That is false!
I personally used one of my flash drives for storage temporarily and you don't need an additional adapter to play online. Apparently someone told you the wrong information.
You need an adapter if you plan on playing through WiFi, which I wouldn't recommend in the first place.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
The thing is that I'm not really a "gamer." I really only want to get the PS2 or xbox to play SWBFI and II with my little brother and/or his/my friends. IF I were to get other games they would be Star Wars games. Nothing else. And since all the "new" Star Wars games are crap I wouldn't mind not getting a 360.
AND the most SERIOUS reason to get a PS2, I can play with Tirpider! :cheer: lol, So taking newer games out of the question and putting price as the main concern is the PS2 the best?
Oh and my dad won't get anything from ebay. Sorry. :shrug:
If you feel the need for playing with Tirpider, by all means get the PS2. The graphics aren't as good but the gameplay is still the same.
While I'd still recommend getting a console that isn't over 12 years old, it's the cheaper option if you feel that SWBF is the only game you want to play. However I'll warn you ahead of time that the PS2 controller is VERY different from the mouse and keyboard. Once I got used to playing FPS games on the computer it took me very, very long to get used to the controller again. There WILL be a learning curve because your movement won't be as precise.
As for the whole "play with friends" thing, I'd expect your friends to be playing more modern games by this point but it should still be fun. I'd rather play Halo 4 with my friends but everyone has their preferred games.
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
That is false!
I personally used one of my flash drives for storage temporarily and you don't need an additional adapter to play online. Apparently someone told you the wrong information.
You need an adapter if you plan on playing through WiFi, which I wouldn't recommend in the first place.
Actually take online playing out of the question, cause that would bog down my Wi-Fi. So yea sorry tirpider. :'(
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
AND the most SERIOUS reason to get a PS2, I can play with Tirpider! :cheer: l
Don't count on that. You need a patch which is no longer available. And, I suspect PS2 servers will be shut down soon too.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
Actually take online playing out of the question, cause that would bog down my Wi-Fi. So yea sorry tirpider. :'(
;)
I'm ahead of you! :P
I just want a gamesystem that is
#1 Cheap
#2 Cheap controllers
#3 Cheap SWBFI and II games.
ALL for good quality. WITHOUT online support.
Now the PS2 is winning on that front.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on November 18, 2012, 01:38:45 PM
Even better search: http://bit.ly/Wfn3Cg
Mad internet skills.
PS2 Slim was a fine piece of kit. You could probably find one of those for less than £20 nower days.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 01:59:16 PM
;)
I'm ahead of you! :P
I just want a gamesystem that is
#1 Cheap
#2 Cheap controllers
#3 Cheap SWBFI and II games.
ALL for good quality. WITHOUT online support.
Now the PS2 is winning on that front.
The PS2 has a lot of fun classic games so if you're playing offline, it's still a good choice. As far as I'm aware, the only games that are still being made for the system are FIFA games because the PS2 is still popular in third world countries where the average household can't afford the PS3 or xbox 360.
If you're going to stand by not playing anything but SWBF, the lack of newer games shouldn't be too much of a problem.
You can get a refurbished slim at ~60 last time I was in gamestop.
Finding copies of SWBF I&II will be a bit difficult because it's whether your local gamestop will have it or not. I'd suggest getting those online.
Quote from: UNIT 33 on November 18, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
PS2 Slim was a fine piece of kit. You could probably find one of those for less than £20 nower days.
If you can find one cheaper than this one: http://www.jjgames.com/product/654
Not from ebay. From a reliable site, then I'll give that link to my dad.
20 euros? What's that in dollars? :slap: Yea I'm to lazy to look it up. :P
From my experience, the PS2 gameplay of SWBF1 and 2 were not as good as their xbox counterparts. Look at it this way (besides SW games), if you want more shooting games, get the xbox. If you want more adventure and fighting games, get the PS2.
Also, amazon has the games for really cheap. You could get a copy of Battlefront 1 for about $5.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
If you can find one cheaper than this one: http://www.jjgames.com/product/654
Not from ebay. From a reliable site, then I'll give that link to my dad.
20 euros? What's that in dollars? :slap: Yea I'm to lazy to look it up. :P
Ebay IS a reliable site. I purchase items there regularly. The reputation system keeps sellers in line and prevents them from selling lemons. Find a seller who has a solid reputation and buy with confidence!
Amazon sells for ~10 dollars cheaper used condition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TLU67W/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1353276670&sr=8-1&keywords=ps2+slim&condition=used
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TYQL1O/ref=sr_1_5_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1353276670&sr=8-5&keywords=ps2+slim&condition=used
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
If you can find one cheaper than this one: http://www.jjgames.com/product/654
Not from ebay. From a reliable site, then I'll give that link to my dad.
20 euros? What's that in dollars? :slap: Yea I'm to lazy to look it up. :P
Consider that euros are 2x the USD/CND, so 20 euros would be the equivalent of $40 USD/CND approximately. :P
Quote from: Roxas on November 18, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
From my experience, the PS2 gameplay of SWBF1 and 2 were not as good as their xbox counterparts. Look at it this way (besides SW games), if you want more shooting games, get the xbox. If you want more adventure and fighting games, get the PS2.
Also, amazon has the games for really cheap. You could get a copy of Battlefront 1 for about $5.
This. The ps2 had good fighting games too!
I do not want any other games besides SWBFI and II. I am NOT a "gamer" and I don't play and don't want to play any other games besides SWBF. That's the reason I'm wanting a PS2/xbox instead of a PS63 and an xbox794. :P
And isn't the gameplay all the same? ??? Just minor tweaks to help with compatiblility with the console?
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:14:53 PM
I do not want any other games besides SWBFI and II. I am NOT a "gamer" and I don't play and don't want to play any other games besides SWBF. That's the reason I'm wanting a PS2/xbox instead of a PS63 and an xbox794. :P
And isn't the gameplay all the same? ??? Just minor tweaks to help with compatiblility with the console?
The graphics are better on the xbox and the framerate's a little bit more stable.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:14:53 PM
I do not want any other games besides SWBFI and II. I am NOT a "gamer" and I don't play and don't want to play any other games besides SWBF. That's the reason I'm wanting a PS2/xbox instead of a PS63 and an xbox794. :P
And isn't the gameplay all the same? ??? Just minor tweaks to help with compatiblility with the console?
The gameplay is all the same, it's just that the graphics on PS2 are more dumbed down than the Xbox version. Personally, I find an Xbox controller is easier to use for both SWBFs than a PS2 controller.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:14:53 PM
I do not want any other games besides SWBFI and II. I am NOT a "gamer" and I don't play and don't want to play any other games besides SWBF. That's the reason I'm wanting a PS2/xbox instead of a PS63 and an xbox794. :P
And isn't the gameplay all the same? ??? Just minor tweaks to help with compatiblility with the console?
The AI on the xbox were way better.
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 02:16:25 PM
The graphics are better on the xbox.
Now lets be realistic guys. I play SWBF on a Mac on an Intel GMA 950 Graphics card. I KNOW bad graphics. The PS2 looks GREAT compared to my Mac graphics. :rofl: Hell I had to create THIS (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=804) so that it would run better on my mac! :XD:
AI better you say? Like how...
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Now lets be realistic guys. I play SWBF on a Mac on an Intel GMA 950 Graphics card. I KNOW bad graphics. The PS2 looks GREAT compared to my Mac graphics. :rofl: Hell I had to create THIS (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=804) so that it would run better on my mac! :XD:
AI better you say? Like how...
Well, I'm no whiz with a PS2, but when I played SWBF2 with a friend on his PS2, I was so bad yet I still got a good KDR. Whereas me being actually good on an Xbox controller, played both SWBFs on there, and it was tough for me to get a steady KDR.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 18, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Now lets be realistic guys. I play SWBF on a Mac on an Intel GMA 950 Graphics card. I KNOW bad graphics. The PS2 looks GREAT compared to my Mac graphics. :rofl: Hell I had to create THIS (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=804) so that it would run better on my mac! :XD:
AI better you say? Like how...
Well, for one they aren't dumb. I can't really say straight up since it's been.....I don't even know how long since I've played on a console version of SWBF. But I definitely enjoyed the games much more than the PS2 version. It's like the game producers made the game for Xbox, then said "Hey, let's slap together a quick port for the PS2."
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on November 18, 2012, 02:22:10 PM
Well, I'm no whiz with a PS2, but when I played SWBF2 with a friend on his PS2, I was so bad yet I still got a good KDR. Whereas me being actually good on an Xbox controller, played both SWBFs on there, and it was tough for me to get a steady KDR.
I actually played SWBF first on a PS2 with my friend and after, how long was that, like 9 years? I might be able to pick up the controller again and do good! :) I'm not that concerened about destroying the AI that bad, I just want to have fun with the game. ;)
About the AI? I think it will be ok, I'll just play on Hard, which is probably the PC's version of Medium. ( Which is what I play on )
8)
Quote from: Roxas on November 18, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Well, for one they aren't dumb. I can't really say straight up since it's been.....I don't even know how long since I've played on a console version of SWBF. But I definitely enjoyed the games much more than the PS2 version. It's like the game producers made the game for Xbox, then said "Hey, let's slap together a quick port for the PS2."
Most games were made on the xbox and then ported to the ps2. To this day it's still the same way. Games are made on the xbox 360 and then ported to the ps3 and pc.
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
That is false!
I personally used one of my flash drives for storage temporarily and you don't need an additional adapter to play online. Apparently someone told you the wrong information.
You need an adapter if you plan on playing through WiFi, which I wouldn't recommend in the first place.
Key word: temporarily.
If you want to store a game on your Xbox (so as to reduce physical whirring), you'll need hard drive space. I don't know anything about other, previous versions of the Xbox, but I do know that the 4GB slim, for example, does not have enough space on which to install a video game.
And yeah, it must've been Wi-Fi: my bro didn't have an Ethernet port available, apparently.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on November 18, 2012, 02:43:46 PM
Key word: temporarily.
If you want to store a game on your Xbox (so as to reduce physical whirring), you'll need hard drive space. I don't know anything about other, previous versions of the Xbox, but I do know that the 4GB slim, for example, does not have enough space on which to install a video game.
And yeah, it must've been Wi-Fi: my bro didn't have an Ethernet port available, apparently.
My flash drive is a 32 GB, which should be capable of holding 3-4 games. I got myself a 250 GB just because I had the money at the time to buy one. Otherwise I'd keep using the flash drive. :P
Quote from: aeria. on November 18, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
My flash drive is a 32 GB, which should be capable of holding 3-4 games. I got myself a 250 GB just because I had the money at the time to buy one. Otherwise I'd keep using the flash drive. :P
Hmmm, it allowed you to use all 32 GB? Nice.
I used to use an external hard drive (125 GB?) and it only was like 9 GB of usable memory.
But I picked up a 250 GB HD for like fifty dollars, so it's all good. :D
Quote from: Roxas on November 18, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Well, for one they aren't dumb. I can't really say straight up since it's been.....I don't even know how long since I've played on a console version of SWBF. But I definitely enjoyed the games much more than the PS2 version. It's like the game producers made the game for Xbox, then said "Hey, let's slap together a quick port for the PS2."
Well actually SWBF was designed to be on multiple platforms, I can't say if it was the plan from day one. But it seems like it was judging from the scripts and the way Pandemic had there build folders setup.
Also,
http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront/32865 (http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront/32865)
http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront-ii/38695 (http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/games/star-wars-battlefront-ii/38695)
http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/consoles/playstation-2-system-gamestop-refurbished/36743 (http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/consoles/playstation-2-system-gamestop-refurbished/36743)
If Gamestop isn't a reliable seller then I don't know what is.
Thanks for that PS2 Gamespot link SK. :tu:
So you are saying the AI are the same in all platforms? Without the 1.1/1.2/1.3 updates?
I'm not saying that at all. The odds are the AI is slightly worse on the PS2, it isn't as powerful as an xBox. But I have own SWBF and SWBFII on the PS2. I love them brilliant with friend's in split screen.
On my old xbox I played mostly SWBF I & II, with a little bit of NFL/NCAA 2k series. I ended up selling it, and have had a PS2 last few years, and only play the same games once in a while. Xbox SWBF is better, but it is not bad on PS2.
It will look better on a CRT television, however everything these days is LCD or Plasma, so I would suggest whatever system you get, invest in a component video cable, you will get the best picture possible with these.
As far as the gamepad goes, Xbox controls seem a little better than PS2 controls. I prefer gamepads to mouse control, and I even use a gamepad on the PC SWBF I & II.
As for all thhe PS2 vs XBox stuff.. I will always prefer the preformance of PS2 over my Xbox..
The Xbox is louder than the box fan in the window. (cd drive and fan are just loud)
And it's controller is just whack..
But some folks like Xbox (a lot of folks, actually.)
And there are fantastic titles that make it a more than worthwhile purchase.. The Oddworld series, KotOR.....
ps2 is all SWBF for me though. If I got rid of every console and game, I would keep that pair, multiplayer or not.
(I might keep Katamari too...)
I just wish we could mod for it.
I haven't tried the PS2 servers lately. The links Buckler provided say they are still up
http://bobzent.info/gsstatusget.php?game=swbfrontps2p (http://bobzent.info/gsstatusget.php?game=swbfrontps2p)
http://gstadmin.gamespy.net/masterserver/index.aspx?gamename=swbfrontps2p&fields=%5Chostname%5Chostport%5Cgamever%5Ccountry%5Cmapname%5Cgametype%5Cgamemode%5Cnumplayers%5Cmaxplayers%5Cgroupid&overridemaster=&filter= (http://gstadmin.gamespy.net/masterserver/index.aspx?gamename=swbfrontps2p&fields=%5Chostname%5Chostport%5Cgamever%5Ccountry%5Cmapname%5Cgametype%5Cgamemode%5Cnumplayers%5Cmaxplayers%5Cgroupid&overridemaster=&filter=)
Who knows how long that will last though..
I haven't tried 'tunngle'-ing the ps2. I have a theory, but it requires extra hardware that I can't find at the moment.
I think It would be a blast to play everyone on the PS2. but if the master server's are an issue and tunngle-ing is a mess of network cables, it may not happen.
-edit
Forgot links...
Used PS2 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TLU67W/ref=sr_1_1_np_0_olp?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1353324638&sr=1-1&condition=used)
PS2 SWBF used on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0001NE48U/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used)
PS2 SWBF2 used on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0009O7HVM/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used)
How do i know if i have the online patch for ps2 swbf?
Start the PS2 without a disc, then open the browser and look at the files on your memory card.
It will have the BF graphic and 'patch' in it's name.
Quote from: SleepKiller on November 18, 2012, 04:30:04 PM
But I have own SWBF and SWBFII on the PS2. I love them brilliant with friend's in split screen.
Good cause that's really all I'm doing. Plus I'll still have SWBF for my Mac to play Coruscant: City and Streets! You can't live without those addon maps! 8)
So I'm definitly going with the PS2 because it's cheaper. Everything is cheaper for the PS2.
Now onto the next thing that's troubling me. The controllers. :o Which brands!? Do I get used or new?! Price is still an issue! What brands last the longest?! One comes with the game system, so I'm thinking I'll need at least 2 more, 1 for my little brother, and 1 for his/my friend...
The PS2 has only 2 memory card and controller ports. So to run 3, you will need a Multi-Tap. (it will split a port so you can plug 2 controllers into one.)
After 'playing the field', I stick with the Sony Dualshock 2 controller that comes with the system.
I've been through 3 of them by myself and though they may cost more, you will appreciate the quality years after the madcatz controllers have failed.
madcatz controllers will be the least expensive, though.
The best advice I can give is to avoid the ones that 'double' as a programable usb computer gamepad.
I have a Thrustmaster Dual Trigger PC/PS2 and it's awful.
The analog is always off and there is no resistance on the thumbsticks. It feels wierd and cheap.
Try to hold one before buying it. If you have to stretch your fingers to find buttons, keep looking.
Thanks for the info Tirpider! I'm not getting a MutiTap thing because if any of my friends/ brothers friends come over we'll just take turns. :) Plus I don't think it's that worth it.
I have gone with getting 2 of this brand from gamestop http://www.gamestop.com/ps2/accessories/sony-playstation-2-dual-shock-controller-used/19509 . They are used but the ratings are all great. I'm getting 2 in case the one that comes with the console breaks. And I remeber using that kind when I played SWBF with my friend a couple hundred years ago. :XD:
So the total comes out as $90.95 ( without tax ). I think that's fair especially for all the stuff coming with it!
The next question, can I hook it up to a modern TV without getting any adapter cords?
Less than $100 is good.
Some may argue that you can get it cheaper, but I'm always willing to pay a little more just to buy from not-so-shady sources.
Adapter-
I remember mine came with the composite AV adapter.
(Yellow and red for video and audio)
But I bought a madcatz one that had S-Video and RGB connectors. (Madcatz is perfect for this sort of thing.)
I don't know if they made/make an HDMI for the PS2. Seems like overkill if they did.
A modern TV should have at least 2 of the above ones.
At the worst, a lot of sets have either the rgb or composite (Yellow and red) conectors on the front or side for easy access.
I could get it cheaper, but like you said, I would rather have good products instead of spending more money to buy the same thing but from a better store. :)
Sorry that I don't really understand what you said about the adapter ( I've never had a game system before ), you are saying all I need to have for the PS2 to work are the yellow and red sockets on the side ( or wherever they are ) of the TV?
Sockets vary on the country you're in but my PS2 plugs into the same socket as a dvd/vhs player would. Unless you have a very small TV and probably even then you should have a socket for a PS2. My PS2 came with an adaptor anyway for diferent sockets.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 19, 2012, 09:13:55 AM
you are saying all I need to have for the PS2 to work are the yellow and red sockets on the side ( or wherever they are ) of the TV?
Pretty much.
Here is an example: [spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tomshardware.com%2Fus%2F2005%2F11%2F23%2Fpc_interfaces_101%2Fhdtvcomp-stb.jpg&hash=7cef12c3422e6e073035b6a34c9840597583b4c2) (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-interfaces-101,1177-5.html)
Just the top 3.
[/spoiler]
And I was wrong about the one audio plug.. it will be 2 plugs, red and white. (sorry, been a while since I unplugged it)
So 3 total.
Yellow = video
Red and white = right and left audio
Ok! And yay! :cheer: I just checked the TV's in my house and they both have those 3 sockets! :cheer:
Thanks for your help guys. 8)
Now I just have to wait for Christmas... :nervous:
Oh and how much will tax and shipping add to $90.95? It's all coming from GameStop online.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 19, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Oh and how much will tax and shipping add to $90.95? It's all coming from GameStop online.
that, I don't know :P
Add about 10% tax, and who-knows for shipping.
Ok well thanks for all your help Tirpider and others! I'll sure be happy to play Endor with no lag! :cheer: :D
What kind of TV will u be playing it on? If you have a old CRT television, standard composite cable is okay (yellow video cable), red and white for audio. If you have an LCD television, composite cable will make it look faded and washed out.
For an LCD television, the best picture is with a component cable, which has a red, blue, and green cable for (for each basic color), plus audio out. Component cables probably run from 5 to 10 dollars on ebay, maybe a little more from a store.
Component cable picture is very close to VGA clearness and quality. I have my PS2 hooked up to my LCD tv with a component cable, and my Dreamcast hooked up to the LCD via the VGA port, and the PS2 picture is nearly as good as the dreamcast, but not quite.
Fun Fact Xbox 720 is a hoak *gasp* *faint*
Quote from: deadmeow on November 19, 2012, 05:03:26 PM
What kind of TV will u be playing it on? If you have a old CRT television, standard composite cable is okay (yellow video cable), red and white for audio. If you have an LCD television, composite cable will make it look faded and washed out.
For an LCD television, the best picture is with a component cable, which has a red, blue, and green cable for (for each basic color), plus audio out. Component cables probably run from 5 to 10 dollars on ebay, maybe a little more from a store.
Component cable picture is very close to VGA clearness and quality. I have my PS2 hooked up to my LCD tv with a component cable, and my Dreamcast hooked up to the LCD via the VGA port, and the PS2 picture is nearly as good as the dreamcast, but not quite.
Hmm, I do have an HD capable TV but I don't know exactly, should I get a link to what my TV is? Like a link to the product?
I believe all HD tv's have component inputs. You should see 3 RCA jacks, colored red/blue/green, somewhere on it. In later years even all old fashioned CRT televisions had these.
The difference in picture is amazing. For example if you have ever seen a NES or SNES hooked up to an LCD television via regular composite or coaxial cable, it looks sort of faded and dull. But if you play NES or SNES on an emulator via a computer hooked up to the LCD televison or monitor, it has bright colors and perfect picture. The component cable will give you nearly the same crisp picture.
Go ahead and link your television if you want, lets see exactly what you are working with.
Ok well I couldn't find the actual product but I can tell you that the TV is about 23 inches tall and 13 inches wide. It's HD capable. So do I need that special adaptor thing? Will it PLAY fine? I just don't want to spend money when I don't have to.
What screen do you other PS2 players play on? Is it bigger/smaller than mine? Do you use the adaptor thing? :wacko:
32" CRT with RGB video and toslink fiber for audio.
(I refuse to buy another TV till the wheels fall off of this one.)
The Dolby surround audio is neato, but I wouldn't spend extra for it though. (for games. now music is a different kind of investment)
I just had the fiber laying around.
I actually play SWBF with the sound turned way down.
I can't tell the difference between the component and composite. (I probably have a crappy television.)
In ascending order of quality
- RF modulator (Atari 2600 Hi Tech)
- Composite
- S-Video
- RGB Component
- YPBPR(component)
- Super duper HD stuff that I am not sure is even made for the ps2.... HDMI, ect..
(I think SCART fits in with RGB component.. but I could never afford any devices with SCART connectors, so I don't know how they work.)
-edit... my 2 cents..
Since you are economizing, go for the baseline connectivity.
Then when you have some extra cash, get the fancy stuff and relive the excitement of seeing the quality improve.
I've got my PS2 on a 47inch LCD and it looks pretty good (although nowhere near my PC) with the standard RCA connection.
Kit Fisto assuming you have an HD TV, plan on buying a component cable so you will enjoy it more. No matter what, you can most likely play the PS2 on your television with the standard cheap cable that comes with it, you just want the best quality, and for a 10 bucks, thats a no brainer (component cable).
CRT's are old technology, but they have nice pictures. The old 8 and 16 bit systems look great on CRT's, but lack on LCD's when you hook them up with coaxial and composite cables. You can get some of the classic systems modded to RGB, and then they look great on LCD's, but this usually requires a small investment.
Ok well I've gone with not getting the cable for now. If it looks fine and is playable then I'll just stick with that. Thanks for the suggestions!
I might care about quality down the line but honestly, the quality of my SWBF ( on my GMA 950 chip ) can't get any worse.
Lol Tirpider, I didn't understand half those acronyms!!! :rofl:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 20, 2012, 06:18:19 PM
Lol Tirpider, I didn't understand half those acronyms!!! :rofl:
heh, I get that a lot.
I almost forgot about the memory card! Here are the product details, does it include a memory card with the PS2? I can't really tell becuase I don't understand half those acronyms! :rofl:
[spoiler]
QuoteProduct Details:
This is a refurbished Sony PlayStation 2 console. It is guaranteed to work. A controller is included with purchase, but may not be a Sony brand controller. PlayStation 2's 300 Mhz processor delivers enhanced clarity and mesmerizing graphics. What's more, the PlayStation 2 doubles as a CD/DVD player. It also plays most of the original PlayStation games. Step into the 128-bit universe brought to you by PlayStation 2. You'll enjoy the look, sound, and feel of unbelievable, near-cinematic realism as you play. PlayStation 2 offers the most advanced games across every genre, DVD video playback as a standard feature, Dolby Digital 5.1 theater-quality sound, and the ability to play the immense catalog of PlayStation games. So, what are you waiting for?
The 128-Bit Emotion Engine is the first chip of its kind. No other mass-market computer technology on the market comes close to its power. In the PlayStation2, this chip is used as the workhorse of the console. It processes all physics and math calculations.
The PlayStation2 has a 128-Bit Emotion Engine. The 128-Bit part of the title means that this chipset both processes information and sends it over a 128-Bit bus (A Bus is the pathway between chips on a circuit board. A wide bus carries more bits of information and is thus faster than a narrower bus).
You may think that your PC has a faster processor, but remember that the Emotion Engine has inherently faster 128-Bit processing and it is just a part of the overall PlayStation2 power.
A small note for the really detail oriented: The reason that the speed is 294.912 MHz, is that it must be a multiple of a required processor speed that supports the DVD ROM operations.
* Dimensions: 301mm (W) x 178mm (H) x 78mm (D), (12" x 7" x 3").
* Weight: 2.1 kg (4 lbs. 10 oz.).
* Media: PlayStation2 CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, and PlayStation CD-ROM, CD Audio
This means your PlayStation 2 will basically play all your old PlayStation games (but not make them look any better), all music CDs and all North American DVDs.
* Interfaces: Controller Port (2)
These are the same as the controller ports on the current PlayStation.
* Interfaces: Memory Card Slot (2)
These slots are very similar to the ones on the original PlayStation, except they support the new, faster transfer rate.
* Interfaces: AV Multi Cable Output (1)
This is where you plug the cord that goes to the back of your television.
* Interfaces: Optical Digital Output (1)
This port will let you send data directly to a digital receiver. This is perfect if you plan to plug your PlayStation into a DTS or Dolby receiver and get perfect sound.
If you don't use digital output, your data will be converted to an analog signal and then be converted back to digital at the receiver.
* Interfaces: USB Port (2)
USB enables you to connect any number of devices to your system with a high-speed data link.
* Interfaces: I.Link (IEEE1394) (1)
The IEEE139 port is known by two names: I.Link and for Mac owners, FireWire - there are some minor differences between the two. This high-data transfer port has the advantage of supplying (some) power to devices that are connected. You can expect that an enormous number of hardware devices will use this port including speakers, printers, and other like devices.
* Interfaces: Type III PCMCIA Card Slot.
This slot is a lot like a laptop's add-in slot. Here you will be able to plug in a modem and eventually the connection for Sony's planned broadband network and hard drive.
Here are the IMPORTANT DETAILS of the page
QuoteImportant Information:
Pre-Owned PS2 System Contains:
1 - PS2 System - color may vary.
1 - Controller - style may vary
1 - AC cable
1 - Standard AV cable
[/spoiler]
Do I have to buy a memory card?! :wacko:
Looks like it does not come with one.
Any basic card will do.
The retail PS2 came with 1, 8mb card.
You can usually find them in packs of 2 for pretty cheap.
Just any memory card? Like the kind you stick in your computer? I'm confused...again. :confused: :slap:
I suspect it is one of these...
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ps2+memory+card
Ok they are specific to the ps2. I can't get a computer memory card and use it for the ps2?
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 21, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
Ok they are specific to the ps2. I can't get a computer memory card and use it for the ps2?
USB flash drive ≠ PS2 Memory Card
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fak1.ostkcdn.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2FP11281211a.jpg&hash=f028b53fce5f37c7679a8fca7338087ab4e64367)[/spoiler]
Something like this won't work? It HAS to be a PS2 memory card product? Cause I know I have something like that...
kit, i don't think they would sell something called a "ps2 memory card" that looks totally nothing like anything else ever produced and have it be compatible with anything else
Yesh! Ok sorry. I was just making sure so that I wouldn't purchase something unessecary.
Now onto the next issue, how much memory should I get? 2? 16? 100?
My guess is that it would hold like 5-6 games...
Well i finished campaign or whatever its called like in a day. After that all i did was play on single player as player1. Didnt need to save anything so... :D.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-2-Memory-Card-8MB/dp/B00004YRQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353550149&sr=8-1&keywords=ps2+memory+card
That's a ps2 memory card. It's a whopping 8 MB! That was a lot compared to the ps1 memory card storage. Keep in mind that the ps2 was released in 2000 and SD cards weren't around then. They used mostly proprietary stuff in consoles back in the day. It has its own memory cards and controller ports.
Also you can't store games on the memory card. It's only for game saves.
A PS2 game is usually ~4 GB so it's safe to say that there's no way of putting a game on the memory card. :P
Oh ok, thanks AG! So I'm safe at getting an 8 MB Memory card. :bonk:
What would I do without you all! :worship:
So this is truly all the things I need to get my PS2 to work properly on my TV?
-PlayStation2 Console
-PlayStation2 Memory Card (8MB)
-2 Sony PlayStation 2 Dual Shock Controllers ( plus the one that comes with the console )
-SWBF
-SWBFII
And the component cable! Don't forget about the component cable because it makes all the difference!
Oh wait, here is the product details of the PS2 console
QuoteImportant Information:
Pre-Owned PS2 System Contains:
1 - PS2 System - color may vary.
1 - Controller - style may vary
1 - AC cable
1 - Standard AV cable
are the AC cables and standard AV cable the component cable(s)? I am really dumb when it comes to console talk, :crazy: sorry.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 21, 2012, 07:52:53 PM
Oh wait, here is the product details of the PS2 console
are the AC cables and standard AV cable the component cable(s)? I am really dumb when it comes to console talk, :crazy: sorry.
AC Cables are power cables for the console, AV Cables are for video/audio output.
So I don't need a component cable. Is that the thing that makes it all HD? Cause I don't want that at the moment...
Component cable will give you the nice picture, and that is optional and cheap.
The only PS2 game I'm aware of that is in HD is Gran Turismo 4. Regardless, component cables are important!
The PS2 comes with composite cables, which is an older way to display video. Component cables gives the picture better color and makes it sharper. If you're using an old CRT television the differences in image quality isn't much but on an HDTV it definitely makes the graphics more tolerable.
Here's Twilight Princess:
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.gameshark.com%2Fimages%2Fcomparison2.jpg&hash=67c04b69f3d97639ca860df61345efbcba24c55f)
While that screenshot has sharpness on a little bit too high, it still shows how clear the differences are. The ground texture alone is an improvement!
Oh now I know what the component cable is! We discussed it earlier! :slap:
I'm probably going to get that later, not with the initial package of my PS2 stuff. I've already got 3 more games I want to get ( not right now though ), I'll give you a hint, L-E-G-O.
:P no lie those games are extremely fun with a buddy!
EDIT: I spoke to my Dad about it and asked if the component cable was a good investment and he said yes. Plus if the PS2 doubles as a DVD player we wouldn't want my movies to have horrible quality! :) So yea, I'm getting the cable now so thanks for telling me about it guys! :D
Just for the record you can play without a memory card but you can't save anything so you need to make a new profile every time you log on.
Also if the 3 games are the lego games make sure to get the saga edition, it includes both the first 2 games and a few bonus levels so there's no point getting the original two seperately. :)
Yea I wanted a memory card to save me and my brother's galactic conquest games so we can pick up where we left off, and for SWBFII awards and for the lego games you kind of have to have a mem card. ;)
I was going to get the compete saga for lego Star Wars but it was only released for the newer gen consoles. Besides I have lego Star Wars 1 and 2 and I don't mind it being separate, I kinda like them over the complete saga! :shrug:
My plan is to get lego Star Wars 1 & 2 and lego Indiana jones! :cheer:
I wish my sister would play swbf1 or 2 with me. After 3 kills on swbf2 she says "Stop killing me or i'll leave!" ... When we play with ai she wants to be on my team, boring like that. I want a brother so bad...atleast i hve you guys on game ranger :P
Hey you have a sister that will actually play SWBF with you! That's amazing! Just play SWBF2 and let her be a super over powered hero! :)
Quote from: aeria. on November 22, 2012, 05:16:44 AM
Here's Twilight Princess:
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.gameshark.com%2Fimages%2Fcomparison2.jpg&hash=67c04b69f3d97639ca860df61345efbcba24c55f)
Nostalgia!
She leaves after a minute... I don't like to let her win so...
Quote from: UNIT 33 on November 22, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
Nostalgia!
I remember getting Twilight Princess when it was brand new. Me and some kid both wanted the game at the same time but there was one copy left. His dad gave the game to me because they couldn't afford it.
This is the part where I would say that I purchased the game for him... but nah that didn't happen. I wanted to buy the game so bad that I didn't feel bad at all.
:P
If you ever get a Wii or a gamecube, play The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess! Hands down one of the best video games I've played.
Quote from: {212}Mart on November 22, 2012, 11:30:39 AM
I wish my sister would play swbf1 or 2 with me. After 3 kills on swbf2 she says "Stop killing me or i'll leave!" ... When we play with ai she wants to be on my team, boring like that. I want a brother so bad...atleast i hve you guys on game ranger :P
at least you have a sibling to play with you, my brothers never want to
I bought my copy of swbfII on amazon for like $40, so i can help you there
Ordering all my PS2 stuff today!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 23, 2012, 07:43:25 AM
Ordering all my PS2 stuff today!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
YAY!!
Aww yea!!! It's ordered and I even got 1 controller for free!!!!!! :cheer:
It should come soon and the memory card and component cable following!!
Thanks for all your advice everyone!
Very cool! Mind sharing us the final price?
For the GameStop products it was a total of $106. :o quite a deal for all the thugs I got! For the amazon stuff I don't remember but it was probably around $40-$50 total.
:)
/jokepost Gamestop hires out thugs now days, and at those prices. Well why aren't we all shopping for thugs at Gamestop.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 23, 2012, 03:26:39 PM
quite a deal for all the thugs I got!
Whoops!! Stupid auto correct iPod! :rofl: ima leave it just because! LOL!!
I'm not going to lie, that's a lot of money spent to play a few games on the ps2... since all of them are on PC.
But if local splitscreen is important to you, a console is the way to go. Have fun with your early Christmas present!
It's not just about playing split screen it is about way more than that. Do you want me to go in more detail?
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 23, 2012, 06:37:03 PM
It's not just about playing split screen it is about way more than that. Do you want me to go in more detail?
Aside from split screen and being a DVD player I don't know.
So sure, what are your reasons?
Ok lemme start.
So the reason I want SWBF1/2 for the PS2 over the PC/Mac versions is because I think playing SWBF with someone is way more fun than singleplayer. In fact I have the most fun playing SWBF with my friends/family members. ( When they are in the same room as me :) ) Now one of my computers will very soon be out of commission and that would prevent any online play brother and Gameranger alike. Plus my Dad is determined to "switch" over to iPads in the next year and SWBF can't very well run on a tablet. ( yet :P ) plus, although this isn't nearly the main reason, is that Lag will be no more playing off line OR split screen. So we got that part out of the way, now onto the other main matter. I know that SWBF mods/ maps downloads have affected my life. All the searching and posts ( note the "this man has no life" :D ) My social/family life. In negative ways. So getting SWBF1 & 2 for consoles forces me to be unable to play mods/ maps and just enjoy the game and in the long run, help me to leave it. That part is kinda complicated but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. So yea. That's why.
If memory serves me right, teancum managed to get custom maps working on the Xbox version of swbf2. With some console hacking, I'm sure you can be able to play custom maps like in the pc version. :)
Yes but I would rather not destroy my PS2. Besides I recall him saying he had gone through 3 or 4 Xbox-es to get the mod on correctly. ;)
The method to mod xboxes now are harmless! No more need to open up the console. :)
Same on the PS2 side.
Regardless, enjoy the ps2.
Well since you know so much how would I get Tatooine: Jabba and Rends Coruscant: City and Streets maps into my PS2 game? WITHOUT even the slightest danger of breaking it or my game? :)
Depends on how new your PS2 console is. I have searched and haven't been able to find a way to let me mod the latest model harmlessly. Seriously if you know a way aeria let me know how to do it. I would mod SWBF and possibly SWBFII on the PS2 in a pinch.
Awww yea!!!!!! My PS2 came today!! Me and my brother hooked it up and played it for a long time! So much SWBF fun! Once the component cable and memory card gets to my house it will be time for a party!!! :cheer: Thanks for all who helped me on getting info on this stuff, it was well worth it!
Now I just have to say this, GameStop is awesome! All the products I got were used ( except for the ps2 which was refurbished ) and it all looks like new! No scratches/smudges on the game disks and the controllers are all working great! I recommend getting stuff from GameStop, they have impressed me! 8)
:cheers: cheers to me and my little brothers long days ahead of SWBF! :cheers: :happy:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on November 19, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Ok! And yay! :cheer: I just checked the TV's in my house and they both have those 3 sockets! :cheer:
Thanks for your help guys. 8)
Now I just have to wait for Christmas... :nervous:
Oh and how much will tax and shipping add to $90.95? It's all coming from GameStop online.
Possibly around $12-15. When I bought my PSP (Birth By Sleep edition), there was a $12 tax. So throw in some standard shipping I would say you are looking at a grand total of roughly $107 or so.