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Gaming for the Original SWBF1 and SWBF2/other games => Star Wars Battlefront (2004 Original) => Topic started by: Kit Fisto on August 22, 2012, 08:50:31 PM

Title: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 22, 2012, 08:50:31 PM
So for some reason I felt like watching the SWBF1 trailer, now watch this and you truthfully tell me that you didn't want to put in your game disk and launch SWBF right then and there!!! ( lol maybe it's just me!  :shrug: )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_R6uzN2AE&sns=em
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: SleepKiller on August 22, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
I didn't want to put in my game disc right then and their. It actually made me want to get a hold of that pre-alpha/alpha build of the game really badly.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Phobos on August 22, 2012, 09:14:33 PM
theed geonosis and dune sea in that vid look awesome
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on August 22, 2012, 10:25:05 PM
I concur with sleepkiller.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Unit 33 on August 22, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
This thread is giving me déjà vu.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: SleepKiller on August 22, 2012, 11:24:40 PM
This thread is giving me déjà vu.








How about now? :P
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 23, 2012, 06:48:48 AM
Lol, that geonosis does look really cool and I've found some pictures of the map layout if anyone ever wanted to try and rebuild it. Basically it had the techno union ships and the spire switched and there was no derelict prop. It could be a cool setup but I can see why they changed it. The techno union ships would get destroyed really fast and the CIS would lose pretty bad due to bleed. But if someone re-made the map but removed bleed…  :happy:
I guess that was only me that wanted to play swbf immediately after because I haven't had time to play recently.  :D
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: jdee-barc on August 23, 2012, 07:28:41 AM
I'd like to see the layout.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 23, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Here are some pictures of theed, and if you really look the only thing I see that is different is that the ground is different and the gate by the "Palace" CP isn't there. So really the one in the game is a better version then the pre-alpha!  :o
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F4%2F4e%2FNaboo_cut_content.jpg&hash=ec93f84751ed1708091b0a43514497ed0db36089)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2Fe%2Fe2%2FBlue_jey_phase_1.2.jpg&hash=c495bd37daf9dd51c912b43931afa64227dd42ba)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F7%2F7f%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=a8e57c76d6cea270a538e94e7d7edfcca5be6cf0)

Pretty cool! No?
Here is one of Geonosis, for some reason I couldn't get the other pictures attached so you will just have to go to the link.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F3%2F3e%2FOriginal_geonosis_map_1.jpg&hash=588f42a5bd197e6f67054ffffd47617ef5eb0a5d)

LINK: http://battlefront.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Content
Near the bottom...
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: SleepKiller on August 23, 2012, 06:41:52 PM
Quote from: kitfisto15678 on August 23, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Here are some pictures of theed, and if you really look the only thing I see that is different is that the ground is different and the gate by the "Palace" CP isn't there. So really the one in the game is a better version then the pre-alpha!  :o
Why exactly is it shocking that the one that shipped would be better than the one in the alpha/beta or what ever the heck build?
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 23, 2012, 07:07:53 PM
It's not so much shocking as that the people who say "Oh that looks better than the actual game" and "Why did they change that!" to counter their argument. Sorry if I wasn't clear...
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: jdee-barc on August 23, 2012, 08:52:53 PM
I think I guessed a more or less accurate layout of the alpha/beta version of the geonosis map.

Here's a poorly drawn (in mspaint) diagram of what it might look like. Note that I didn't put where all the props (rock formations and turrets etc) and vehiclespawns are, just the Republic cp, the technounion ships, and the Spire, with a large battlefield and cp in the middle under the wreckage (like in the stock map).

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33403316/Layout.png)
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Phobos on August 23, 2012, 10:38:11 PM
Quote from: jdee-barc on August 23, 2012, 08:52:53 PM
I think I guessed a more or less accurate layout of the alpha/beta version of the geonosis map.

Here's a poorly drawn (in mspaint) diagram of what it might look like. Note that I didn't put where all the props (rock formations and turrets etc) and vehiclespawns are, just the Republic cp, the technounion ships, and the Spire, with a large battlefield and cp in the middle under the wreckage (like in the stock map).

[spoiler](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33403316/Layout.png)[/spoiler]

I think this would be fun if the droid were given MTTs that spawn from the spire along with the regular vehicles and IG-88s instead of droidekas lol.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Unit 33 on August 24, 2012, 01:37:31 AM
HUD-y HUD HUD.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfX4Au.png&hash=4ada2046c93b37afd00600340d69a34a30da3c93)

The health is represented by the silhouette of your character; which drains and changes color depending on how much health you have. The map is also far more detailed, and look there! The friendly CPs are blue rather than green!
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Phobos on August 24, 2012, 01:41:10 AM
Quote from: Regent on August 24, 2012, 01:37:31 AM
HUD-y HUD HUD.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfX4Au.png&hash=4ada2046c93b37afd00600340d69a34a30da3c93)

The health is represented by the silhouette of your character; which drains and changes color depending on how much health you have. The map is also far more detailed, and look there! The friendly CPs are blue rather than green!
That is one epic HUD. I wonder if one of the common scripts controls x and y axis coordinates for interface textures. What controls the friendly CP being blue or green?
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Sereja on August 24, 2012, 02:04:16 AM
Yes, it's look's like totaly new game HUD's! You broke many HUD limit's this time.
Interesting, if you will make some other "concept-art" hud variations?
I am sure real CP's still stay green :P.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 24, 2012, 06:46:54 AM
Quote from: Regent on August 24, 2012, 01:37:31 AM
HUD-y HUD HUD.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfX4Au.png&hash=4ada2046c93b37afd00600340d69a34a30da3c93)

The health is represented by the silhouette of your character; which drains and changes color depending on how much health you have. The map is also far more detailed, and look there! The friendly CPs are blue rather than green!
That would be an interesting HUD but all the graphics and the way the trees look betray the game was made in the early 2000's.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Unit 33 on August 24, 2012, 07:21:10 AM
Quote from: Sereja on August 24, 2012, 02:04:16 AM
Yes, it's look's like totaly new game HUD's! You broke many HUD limit's this time.
Interesting, if you will make some other "concept-art" hud variations?
I am sure real CP's still stay green :P.
I didn't make this, it is a screenshot from the first Trailer of SWBF1.
As that HUD was once possible on the "Alpha" SWBF, it may be possible to replicate in modding.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: jdee-barc on August 24, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
I asked about changing the HUD once. Here's the response

Quote from: TeancumPsych0fred told me once that the entirety of the UI was farmed out to another company. He said the HUD was a collection of images that were either tied to lua or to hard code. He thought it was hard code. When SWBF2 came out Pandemic created their own HUD configurations.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 25, 2012, 09:06:48 AM
Hey I was looking through the cut content page and I saw this Tantive IV skin which is waaaaaay cooler than the SWBF2 one and I was wondering if anyone had made it yet? It looks like they combinbed the SWBF1 heavy trooper and urban soldier skins...
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F9%2F9f%2FRebel_skin.jpg&hash=4cfbe4f468421345ab361adf482b73d3db57a6c4)[/spoiler]
Oh and on lots of the preview movies of SWBF2 and various alpha screenshots they all use SWBF1 skins and how they hold their weapon etc.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: SleepKiller on August 25, 2012, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: kitfisto15678 on August 25, 2012, 09:06:48 AM
Hey I was looking through the cut content page and I saw this Tantive IV skin which is waaaaaay cooler than the SWBF2 one and I was wondering if anyone had made it yet? It looks like they combinbed the SWBF1 heavy trooper and urban soldier skins...
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F9%2F9f%2FRebel_skin.jpg&hash=4cfbe4f468421345ab361adf482b73d3db57a6c4)[/spoiler]
Oh and on lots of the preview movies of SWBF2 and various alpha screenshots they all use SWBF1 skins and how they hold their weapon etc.
It looks terrible and not at all like the movies to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 25, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: SleepKiller on August 25, 2012, 02:51:01 PM
It looks terrible and not at all like the movies to be perfectly honest.
Ok your opinion. And I thought you didn't like the movies...  :P
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Unit 33 on August 25, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: kitfisto15678 on August 25, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
Ok your opinion. And I thought you didn't like the movies...  :P
That skin is definitely rubbish and it just uses the default Vanguard model, there's pictures of that guy all over the instruction manual too, go check now!
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 25, 2012, 03:41:49 PM
Ok, ok, ok. Fine the skin is bad. Moving on, jdee were you going to try and recreate the alpha geonosis?
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Helios on August 25, 2012, 03:43:15 PM
Ya the Vangaurd skin dont look to good reminds me of when i get sick to the stomach!!
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Ultimo on August 30, 2012, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Regent on August 24, 2012, 01:37:31 AM
HUD-y HUD HUD.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfX4Au.png&hash=4ada2046c93b37afd00600340d69a34a30da3c93)

The health is represented by the silhouette of your character; which drains and changes color depending on how much health you have. The map is also far more detailed, and look there! The friendly CPs are blue rather than green!

It may only be just a picture, but it looks like they did better with explosions later on. Infact, I think HUD is way easier and better to understand than the current one. I'd much rather have it. does anyone know where it's possible to get it?
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Ultimo on August 30, 2012, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: kitfisto15678 {GLT} Commander on August 23, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Here are some pictures of theed, and if you really look the only thing I see that is different is that the ground is different and the gate by the "Palace" CP isn't there. So really the one in the game is a better version then the pre-alpha!  :o
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F4%2F4e%2FNaboo_cut_content.jpg&hash=ec93f84751ed1708091b0a43514497ed0db36089)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2Fe%2Fe2%2FBlue_jey_phase_1.2.jpg&hash=c495bd37daf9dd51c912b43931afa64227dd42ba)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F7%2F7f%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=a8e57c76d6cea270a538e94e7d7edfcca5be6cf0)

Pretty cool! No?
Here is one of Geonosis, for some reason I couldn't get the other pictures attached so you will just have to go to the link.

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fbattlefront%2Fimages%2F3%2F3e%2FOriginal_geonosis_map_1.jpg&hash=588f42a5bd197e6f67054ffffd47617ef5eb0a5d)

LINK: http://battlefront.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Content
Near the bottom...

These maps... Even if they were changed I still wouldn't believe if it was PC version. suprisingly on my belief of that, these pics look much better to me than the current battlefront. Nice blue jet, but it would look better in red or black :P
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Snake on August 30, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
Maybe the collection of modders here at SWBFGamers could "restore" the Alpha version that we can see in these pics. It would be an interesting mod..
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: jdee-barc on August 30, 2012, 02:26:58 PM
I'm working on a Geonosis map for my mod that I want to be as close to the Alpha-build version as possible. I'm not gonna do a Naboo map since I'm not very good at maps with urban settings.
Title: Re: You tell me…
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 30, 2012, 04:45:40 PM
Quote from: jdee-barc on August 30, 2012, 02:26:58 PM
I'm working on a Geonosis map for my mod that I want to be as close to the Alpha-build version as possible. I'm not gonna do a Naboo map since I'm not very good at maps with urban settings.
Ohh that will be cool!!!
Would you be able to release it aside from your mod as a "preview" of your mod?  ::)
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