Basically, I want to know how to add the "Exit To Windows" option at the bottom of the escape menu in multiplayer, exactly how it looks and functions in single player. I assume it involves editing one of the *.script files in common/munged just like napseeker did to add fakeconsole option to multiplayer. The question is how?
Thread Primary Objective: Adding the option "exit to windows" to the multi-player escape menu.
Thread Secondary Objective: Modifying the "exit to windows" function to first disconnect from the server before closing game executable.
Solution: Not yet attained.
I have now renamed the thread
"How Add The Feature "Exit To Windows" To The Escape Menu In MultiPlayer?"
and will add [SOLVED] only after a solution is presented.
That option was removed due to the fact SWBF will crash and effectivly rendering your computer(Unless your using Windows 7.) inoperable and must be killed via haolding down the Power button on your PC, I could add it in for you but you'd crash your PC each time you clicked it.
Can you tell me how to add it?
It doesn't crash in single player, so it sounds like a coding bug C++.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Can you tell me how to add it?
It doesn't crash in single player, so it sounds like a coding bug C++.
No coding bug it is due to the way SWBF multiplayer system works. Exit To Windows is the equevalent of pressing Alt+F4 ingame they both activate the same fuction they will both freeze your computer in Multiplayer.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 02:46:28 PM
No coding bug it is due to the way SWBF multiplayer system works. Exit To Windows is the equevalent of pressing Alt+F4 ingame they both activate the same fuction they will both freeze your computer in Multiplayer.
That is the bug right there, making exit to windows the equivalent of alt+f4. Because the exit to windows in single player is not alt+f4, it is close game and then close game executable.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
That is the bug right there, making exit to windows the equivalent of alt+f4. Because the exit to windows in single player is not alt+f4, it is close game and then close game executable.
I find it annoying that you refuse to accept that it is the way SWBF networking works that causes it to crash. Alt+F4 is the equalvilant of Exit To Windows because when you press Exit To Windows you are not quiting your current game first then exiting the application you are ordering the application to terminate without doing anything else first.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 03:07:14 PM
I find it annoying that you refuse to accept that it is the way SWBF networking works that causes it to crash. Alt+F4 is the equalvilant of Exit To Windows because when you press Exit To Windows you are not quiting your current game first then exiting the application you are ordering the application to terminate without doing anything else first.
You are pretending things are not what they are. You refuse to acknowledge the SWBF networking is a subset of the c++ coding. It is bugged because they made exit to windows act like alt+f4 instead of how it functions in single player.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 03:43:34 PM
You are pretending things are not what they are. You refuse to acknowledge the SWBF networking is a subset of the c++ coding. It is bugged because they made exit to windows act like alt+f4 instead of how it functions in single player.
Anybody else find Phobos annoying or is it just me? Listen to this Exit To Windows in signleplay is the same as it is in Multiplayer it does not shut down the game you are playing when you click it it simply terminates the battlefront.exe. And a bug is not what you think it is a bug is a peice of code that mulfuction under certain curcumstances causing unwanted functions. They were aware of the Exit To Windows button not being good under networking conditions so they removed it. It is not a bug it is simply the way Pandemic chose to program Zero to work. So can we put this to bed now or am I going to receive another epic fail speach from you?
seriously, phobos, listen to him. he seems to be more knowledgeable of this matter then you, or me.
anyway, why does it matter? i really find it hard to believe people use the exit to windows button as opposed to alt f4
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
anyway, why does it matter? i really find it hard to believe people use the exit to windows button as opposed to alt f4
Yeah I always use Alt+F4 its quicker. But I never do it in multiplayer for hopefully obvious reasons that I seem to be explaining 3 times today....
ah isee. pardon my not-reading-every-post . but with this thread: TL;DR (not about you)
alt-f4 works in multiplayer at the score screen, otherwise it results in a computer hang. I use it to avoid starting a new map. The server still keeps your name in the server for a few minutes, however, until is registers a loss of connection.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Anybody else find Phobos annoying or is it just me? Listen to this Exit To Windows in signleplay is the same as it is in Multiplayer it does not shut down the game you are playing when you click it it simply terminates the battlefront.exe. And a bug is not what you think it is a bug is a peice of code that mulfuction under certain curcumstances causing unwanted functions. They were aware of the Exit To Windows button not being good under networking conditions so they removed it. It is not a bug it is simply the way Pandemic chose to program Zero to work. So can we put this to bed now or am I going to receive another epic fail speach from you?
A bug is an unwanted piece of code, and it is unwanted to have exit to windows function as alt-f4 when it should close the game exe properly. Your failed antagonistic responses are getting annoying.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
seriously, phobos, listen to him. he seems to be more knowledgeable of this matter then you, or me.
he wants to think he is a know it all but he is not
*Facepalm* here we go again...
but when you altf4 during multiplayer, i'm pretty sure you're computer is still technically hooked online so it would not only crash the game, but leave your computer not knowing what to do now.
a better idea would be to have a disconnect option and a disconnect and exit to windows option. it disconnects first, then quits. so no crash. is that a possible idea?
Furthermore, a bug is anything which crashes the game.
An unbugged exit to windows in MP would do this:
Leave server, close game exe.
All it needs to do is combine multiplayers' quit with single player's exit to windows
Buckler could you possibly consider locking this thread?. I anwsered his question at the begining of this conversation now we are just getting into off topic talk about what a "bug" is.
The question has not yet been answered, you are just trying to get the thread locked.
Re-read the title, I am asking how to add the feature "exit to windows" in the multi-player escape menu. What modifications to make to their respective files. That is all.
guys i offered a suggestion as to how to possibly bypass this. stop arguing. listen to this :P
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 06:41:23 PM
a better idea would be to have a disconnect option and a disconnect and exit to windows option. it disconnects first, then quits. so no crash. is that a possible idea?
There is a certain process that must be followed to add the "exit to windows" option to the multi-player escape menu. Please discuss this and this only because that is the entire focus of this thread.
Thread Primary Objective: Adding the option "exit to windows" to the multi-player escape menu.
Thread Secondary Objective: Modifying the "exit to windows" function to first disconnect from the server before closing game executable.
Solution: Not yet attained.
I hope that makes it clear enough for everyone. I suspect some hex editing on script files might be necessary.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
There is a certain process that must be followed to add the "exit to windows" option to the multi-player escape menu. Please discuss this and this only because that is the entire focus of this thread.
Thread Objective: Adding the option "exit to windows" to the multi-player escape menu.
Solution: Not yet attained.
I hope that makes it clear enough for everyone. I suspect some hex editing on script files might be necessary.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 06:56:04 PM
guys i offered a suggestion as to how to possibly bypass this. stop arguing. listen to this :P
Would not work, I thought about doing that to appeise the so ever stubbon Phobos but then I realised it would dissconnect but then it would not excute the other command becaus edisconnecting means shoting back to the main menu.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 06:47:18 PM
Re-read the title, I am asking how to add the feature "exit to windows" in the multi-player escape menu. What modifications to make to their respective files. That is all.
And I told you I know how to do it, but it would crash so it is not worth the time it would take me to make just to prove what I've said.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Thread Objective: Adding the option "exit to windows" to the multi-player escape menu.
Solution: Not yet attained.
I've done it before but as I said it resaults in a crash when you click it their is no way around this as I've explained four times already. So please can we close this case and accept that if you want this fuction you will have to build your own game from the ground up.
I'm still requesting this to be locked because it is going so dreafully off-topic and into flame-topic swiftly.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
Would not work, I thought about doing that to appeise the so ever stubbon Phobos but then I realised it would dissconnect but then it would not excute the other command becaus edisconnecting means shoting back to the main menu.And I told you I know how to do it, but it would crash so it is not worth the time it would take me to make just to prove what I've said.
I've done it before but as I said it resaults in a crash when you click it their is no way around this as I've explained four times already. So please can we close this case and accept that if you want this fuction you will have to build your own game from the ground up.
I'm still requesting this to be locked because it is going so dreafully off-topic and into flame-topic swiftly.
You can't say that you know how to add the feature, then hoard the knowledge of how to do so, and pretend the question has been answered. The question is not answered until the knowledge of how to add that function is answered on this thread. It is not for you to determine what is a waste of other modder's time.
Stop trying to hoard modding knowledge and get the thread closed without the question being answered. It is extremely rude of you Sleepkiller.
I'm requesting Led remove sleepkiller's off-topic posts and leave the thread unlocked because they have nothing to do with the actual thread objective and are just a display of his egotistic self worship of knowing how but not sharing how.
The objective of the thread is to answer the question as to how to add the feature. Whether you know how or not is irrelevant to the thread if you are unwilling to share it. Go away sleepkiller you are officially and intentionally trolling this thread now.
I have now renamed the thread
"How Add The Feature "Exit To Windows" To The Escape Menu In MultiPlayer?"
and will add [SOLVED] only after a solution is presented.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 07:12:08 PM
You can't say that you know how to add the feature, then hoard the knowledge of how to do so, and pretend the question has been answered. The question is not answered until the knowledge of how to add that function is answered on this thread. It is not for you to determine what is a waste of other modder's time.
Stop trying to hoard modding knowledge and get the thread closed without the question being answered. It is extremely rude of you Sleepkiller.
I'm requesting Led remove sleepkiller's off-topic posts and leave the thread unlocked because they have nothing to do with the actual thread objective and are just a display of his egotistic self worship of knowing how but not sharing how.
The objective of the thread is to answer the question as to how to add the feature. Whether you know how or not is irrelevant to the thread if you are unwilling to share it. Go away sleepkiller you are officially and intentionally trolling this thread now.
I have now renamed the thread
"How Add The Feature "Exit To Windows" To The Escape Menu In MultiPlayer?"
and will add [SOLVED] only after a solution is presented.
*FACEPALM* *DESKHEAD* *DESKKICK*
I have not been hoarding knowlage I've been telling you why that fueture is not present in the first place. And what does happen when it is their. It is a pointless feture that if you really want sure here you go. Have a look at it won't you? (I took the liberaty of renaming the button.) (https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload1132.mediafire.com%2F6szm32k4489g%2F8vibve2sh74boax%2Fscreenshot_0003.png&hash=fac0a382f059e4c5e9fd43360af8a255efec5a1d) Download this common.lvl to use the awesome button. http://www.mediafire.com/?h554g4nz47dd7ku (http://www.mediafire.com/?h554g4nz47dd7ku) (And I hope I've provided some of the people reading this post a bit of comic releif. :) )
i'm just saying if you had a screenshot, its not showing up for me. :confused:
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
*FACEPALM* *DESKHEAD* *DESKKICK*
I have not been hoarding knowlage I've been telling you why that fueture is not present in the first place. And what does happen when it is their. It is a pointless feture that if you really want sure here you go. Have a look at it won't you? (I took the liberaty of renaming the button.) Download this common.lvl to use the awesome button. http://www.mediafire.com/?h554g4nz47dd7ku (http://www.mediafire.com/?h554g4nz47dd7ku) (And I hope I've provided some of the people reading this post a bit of comic releif. :) )
Yes, you are hoarding knowledge. It is pointless and arrogant for you to hoard the solution to the thread objective.
Saying that you can add the feature but not explaining how is NOT the same thing as explaining how to add the feature. So until you explain how to add the feature, you cannot say the question is answered. You telling me that it is useless, crashes the game, waste of time, is off-topic and unnecessary.
I have no desire to download or test your mods, I am only interested in learning how to add the "exit to windows" feature to the menu in multi-player. Please stop spamming this thread with your off-topic nonsense. If you want to promote your mods then do so on another thread.
You have not answered the question, because you don't want to share the answer (if you even have it). You just want to keep the process of how to add this option to the multi-player menu "secret" for as long as you can, just like the deathmatch code. It is pathetic.
So let me get this straight I go and make a mod that has what you want in it. And you refuse to even try it? And trust me I am in no mood Phobos today for your silly nosense stop saying I'm pathetic and what not. I"m having a rather bad day and I'll snap rather easilaly today.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
So let me get this straight I go and make a mod that has what you want in it. And you refuse to even try it? And trust me I am in no mood Phobos today for your silly nosense stop saying I'm pathetic and what not. I"m having a rather bad day and I'll snap rather easilaly today.
Your assumptions are dead wrong again.
I do not want, and never said I wanted, a compiled common.lvl with a sabotaged option to crash my game.
I want the instructions on how to add "exit to windows" to the escape menu of my own custom common.lvl
I know you understand that, all you're doing at this point (and have been doing the whole time) is acting like you are special because you claim to know how and refuse to share.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 08:23:40 PM
Your assumptions are dead wrong again.
I do not want, and never said I wanted, a compiled common.lvl with a sabotaged option to crash my game.
I want the instructions on how to add "exit to windows" to the escape menu of my own custom common.lvl
I know you understand that, all you're doing at this point is acting like you are special because you claim to know how and refuse to share.
Yup I just got your medical file sent over to me, you were droped on your head as a baby according to the records. And it is not a sabotaged option It is the one Pandemic coded I simply remove their fuction of keeping it out of the menu in multiplayer and then changed its name for laughs.http://www.mediafire.com/?8vibve2sh74boax (http://www.mediafire.com/?8vibve2sh74boax) Download that image please^^.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 08:27:32 PM
Yup I just got your medical file sent over to me, you were droped on your head as a baby according to the records. And it is not a sabotaged option It is the one Pandemic coded I simply remove their fuction of keeping it out of the menu in multiplayer and then changed its name for laughs.http://www.mediafire.com/?8vibve2sh74boax (http://www.mediafire.com/?8vibve2sh74boax) Download that image please^^.
Get a life, your insults are weak. I asked you to stop spamming your offtopic nonsense and all you do is continue. All you did was the exact opposite of what I asked. You most likely don't know how to add the exit to windows to the multi-player menu, if you did then you would prove it by explaining how. You are just an attention troll. You sabotaged the function just like you sabotage this thread with spam.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 08:30:38 PM
Get a life, your insults are weak. I asked you to stop spamming your offtopic nonsense and all you do is continue. All you did was the exact opposite of what I asked. You most likely don't know how to add the exit to windows to the multi-player menu, if you did then you would prove it by explaining how. You are just an attention troll.
And I'm starting to think you read the first sentace of my posts then stop reading them else you would know that I do know how and I've posted a common.lvl that is proof I know how.[attentiontrolling] And their ain't no way you can cross my bridge unless you let me sign your map. [/attentiontrolling]
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
And I'm starting to think you read the first sentace of my posts then stop reading them else you would know that I do know how and I've posted a common.lvl that is proof I know how.[attentiontrolling] And their ain't no way you can cross my bridge unless you let me sign your map. [/attentiontrolling]
You fail to understand that posting a modified common.lvl is not posting the solution to the thread objective. The solution to this thread is to post the process of how. You want to be the only one capable of knowing how, and this is why I consider you to be a detriment to the modding community here at swbfgamers. I've read sentence after sentence of your spam, and it is honestly nothing but your own self-worship. Never once do you explain how to add the option to the escape menu, despite constantly claiming to know how. You have only proven to be arrogantly unwilling to help modders learn how to add such functions to the escape menu.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
You fail to understand that posting a modified common.lvl is not posting the solution to the thread objective. The solution to this thread is to post the process of how. You want to be the only one capable of knowing how, and this is why I consider you to be a detriment to the modding community here at swbfgamers. I've read sentence after sentence of your spam, and it is honestly nothing but your own self-worship. Never once do you explain how to add the option to the escape menu, despite constantly claiming to know how. You have only proven to be arrogantly unwilling to help modders learn how to add such functions to the escape menu.
Okay sure. Now where is that report button......
:rofl: omigod you would sleepkiller. "Crash My Game"
Phobos Developer's Intentions: To answer the question of how to add the function to the menu.
Sleepkiller's Intentions: Get this thread locked and keep the question unanswered to feel prideful of being the only one on this forum who knows (at least claims to know) how to add the function to the menu.
The topic of this thread: To discover/present a solution of how to add "exit to windows" function to the escape menu in Multi-player.
Why is it impossible for you to leave this thread alone Sleepkiller? You have the answer but don't wish to share it. But you don't have to try so desperately to derail/hijack/lock the thread so other people can't discover it on this forum. I understand you are getting a "kick" out of not helping me find the solution, but you are becoming a harassment to this thread's objectives.
maybe, not everything we want is entirely possible.
he's not trying to lock, nor are you. but he's stating his knowledge and well, that knowledge i don't have, and haven't really seen you do anything except throw a tantrum. why not try to do what you can do, yourself, and ask for help as you go. and listen
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
maybe, not everything we want is entirely possible.
he's not trying to lock, nor are you. but he's stating his knowledge and well, that knowledge i don't have, and haven't really seen you do anything except throw a tantrum. why not try to do what you can do, yourself, and ask for help as you go. and listen
You are also posting off-topic spam barc. I have worked hard to share, compile, and distribute mods, mod assets and modding knowledge/tutorials, you are just a hater. He is not stating knowledge, there has been nothing stated by him which describes how the function is added to the menu.
Everytime I post a new idea or ask for help, sleepkiller comes along to troll and shoot it down with "that's illegal", "that wont' work", "don't even waste your time". He never once has positive feedback, always trying to avoid providing any sort of solution. Plenty of examples in this thread alone.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
And I told you I know how to do it, but it would crash so it is not worth the time it would take me to make just to prove what I've said.
This is a great example, he says it is not worth the time to add the function to the escape menu because it will crash. Then he goes on to make a custom common.lvl which he claims has the function (although suspiciously altered/renamed). Rather than just explain how to do it, he goes to the effort of contradicting himself by making something he says is not worth the time to make. An avoidance tactic, to avoid discussing the solution. Then demanding the thread be locked.
I have already accepted the fact you will not share the answer/solution. Now you need to accept the fact I am going to use this thread to assist in discovery of that answer/solution and stop hijacking it.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
You are also posting off-topic spam barc. I have worked hard to share, compile, and distribute mods, mod assets and modding knowledge/tutorials, you are just a hater.
That just crossed the line. jdee-barc is probably either the second best if not the best SWBF1 modder their is at the moment, the other being ggctuk. (I can not decide which one is better I love both their mods so much.) So jdee do not listen to him you are definatly a great modder and certainly not a hater.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:15:07 PM
That just crossed the line. jdee-barc is probably either the second best if not the best SWBF1 modder their is at the moment, the other being ggctuk. (I can not decide which one is better I love both their mods so much.) So jdee do not listen to him you are definatly a great modder and certainly not a hater.
Barc already crossed the line, he is hating on all of my efforts to help the modding community here by saying I do nothing except throw tantrums.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
haven't really seen you do anything except throw a tantrum
Well FYI here are some small contributions you must have missed
SWBF1 Modding LVL Builders Toolbox 3.0 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3910.0
Aliens Species In SWBF1 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3912.0
SWBF1 PS2 LVL Files - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3890.0
Hex Editing Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3640.0
Mission.lvl Modding - Basics Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3641.0
Stock Map Abbreviations & Bugs - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3662.0
The best swbf1 modder is subjective, a matter of opinion, in my case it would be cull, simply because of his high quality avant-garde standards.
I wonder what battlebelk would do. If someone came to him asking him the question in the title of this thread, I bet he would help if he knew, not hoard.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
You are also posting off-topic spam barc. I have worked hard to share, compile, and distribute mods, mod assets and modding knowledge/tutorials, you are just a hater. He is not stating knowledge, there has been nothing stated by him which describes how the function is added to the menu.
well, as a matter of fact, i'll admit that i know almost nothing about this topic. but i've offered suggestions on:how to make it possibly work, and how to communicate better between you and sleepkiller :P. but i haven't been hating or spamming you.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
This is a great example, he says it is not worth the time to add the function to the escape menu because it will crash. Then he goes on to make a custom common.lvl which he claims has the function (although suspiciously altered/renamed).
that was a joke, bro. it was as flag to tell you that it will crash if you didn't get it.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:15:07 PM
That just crossed the line. jdee-barc is probably either the second best if not the best SWBF1 modder their is at the moment, the other being ggctuk. (I can not decide which one is better I love both their mods so much.) So jdee do not listen to him you are definatly a great modder and certainly not a hater.
oh why thank you i am very flattered.
cull is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
that was a joke, bro. it was as flag to tell you that it will crash if you didn't get it.
cull is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this.
A helpful person who knew the answer to a question someone had, would spend more time helping them answer the question than trying to play jokes that intentionally avoiding answering the question.
I could say "ggctuk is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this." but I'm not you. I don't pretend other people are being dragged in when they aren't.
SWBF1 Modding LVL Builders Toolbox 3.0 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3910.0
Aliens Species In SWBF1 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3912.0
SWBF1 PS2 LVL Files - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3890.0
Hex Editing Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3640.0
Mission.lvl Modding - Basics Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3641.0
Stock Map Abbreviations & Bugs - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3662.0
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i didn't miss that at all. i'm just saying that in this thread you're overdoing it. although the last 3 aren't really necessary. there are tuts for those. i've seen quite a few.
and the ps2 thing came from my idea
and the toolbox is just a collection of previously released tools
but the alien spieces collection, some of those were from different games. and some were from other modders. both aren't exactly right. if some were original models by you, then i'll give you credit for that though
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
A helpful person who knew the answer to a question someone had, would spend more time helping them answer the question than trying to play jokes that intentionally avoiding answering the question.
I could say "ggctuk is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this." but I'm not you. I don't pretend other people are being dragged in when they aren't.
a sense of humors always a good thing. and he was trying to point out (Listen this time :bonk: ) that it can't really be done.
and why? why, are you talking about ggctuk all of the sudden? he hasn't posted on this site in over a year. and i think he is a a better modder then any of us. my mods and sleepkiller's mods might be flashy and awesome-looking. he really just knows unit balance like no other
this is getting too offtopic lets try to get back on track. no on'es trying to get your topic locked, phobos, you're just...paranoid.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:33:26 PM
SWBF1 Modding LVL Builders Toolbox 3.0 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3910.0
Aliens Species In SWBF1 - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3912.0
SWBF1 PS2 LVL Files - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3890.0
Hex Editing Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3640.0
Mission.lvl Modding - Basics Tutorial - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3641.0
Stock Map Abbreviations & Bugs - http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3662.0
i didn't miss that at all. i'm just saying that in this thread you're overdoing it. although the last 3 aren't really necessary. there are tuts for those. i've seen quite a few.
and the ps2 thing came from my idea
and the toolbox is just a collection of previously released tools
but the alien spieces collection, some of those were from different games. and some were from other modders. both aren't exactly right. if some were original models by you, then i'll give you credit for that though
a sense of humors always a good thing. and he was trying to point out (Listen this time :bonk: ) that it can't really be done.
and why? why, are you talking about ggctuk all of the sudden? he hasn't posted on this site in over a year. and i think he is a a better modder then any of us. my mods and sleepkiller's mods might be flashy and awesome-looking. he really just knows unit balance like no other
Tutorials are always useful, and I will continue to write them whether or not you find use for them. I will also continue to compile and centralize mods, mod assets, modding tools, tutorials, and modding knowledge, no matter how much you or anybody else seeks to trivialize them to compiled mods. Keep on hating cuz it does not stop me.
And saying that it can't be done is not true, anyone who knows how can add the function to the menu. I mentioned GGCtuk because you claimed that I was trying to drag cull into this when you know that I wasn't. Sleepkiller mentioned GGctuk before I mentioned cull, and you told me not to drag cull into this, but you didn't tell him not to drag ggctuk into it. You are intentionally trying to flame me and I find it to be very immature.
I give up! Your to caught up in your ways, to realise what I've been telling you.
Im sayying this one more time I hope you listen.
We can add the button into the menu. But it will freeze up your computer when you press it. Pandemic removed it on purpose it is not a bug that it freezes up, it is due to netwokring issues.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:37:53 PM
Tutorials are always useful, and I will continue to write them whether or not you find use for them. I will also continue to compile and centralize mods, mod assets, and modding knowledge, no matter how much you or anybody else seeks to trivialize them to compiled mods. Keep on hating cuz it does not stop me.
And saying that it can't be done is not true, anyone who knows how can add the function to the menu. I mentioned GGCtuk because you claimed that I was trying to drag cull into this when you know that I wasn't. Sleepkiller mentioned GGctuk before I mentioned cull, and you told me not to drag cull into this, but you didn't tell him not to drag ggctuk into it. You are intentionally trying to flame me and I find it to be very immature.
what? just...what? i'm not intentionally trying to flame you, modtester and i apologize, maybe "drag in" was a bad choice of words, but we don't need to get other modders involved unless they want to (ggctuk and cull). i'm not hating (or not trying to, but for gods sake listen :bonk: ).you just need to stop accusing.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:42:05 PM
I give up! Your to caught up in your ways, to realise what I've been telling you.
Im sayying this one more time I hope you listen.
We can add the button into the menu. But it will freeze up your computer when you press it. Pandemic removed it on purpose it is not a bug that it freezes up, it is due to netwokring issues.
I don't care if it freezes the computer. I want to know how to add the button to the menu. You can try to keep it a secret but I will eventually find out.
I never dragged cull into ANYTHING
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:15:07 PM
dee-barc is probably either the second best if not the best SWBF1 modder their is at the moment, the other being ggctuk.
Sleepkiller stating his preference.
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:21:37 PM
The best swbf1 modder is subjective, a matter of opinion, in my case it would be cull, simply because of his high quality avant-garde standards.
Me stating my preference.
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:23:46 PM
cull is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this.
You stating a false assumption that I was "dragging cull into this".
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
I could say "ggctuk is also pretty good. but don't drag him into this." but I'm not you. I don't pretend other people are being dragged in when they aren't.
Self-explanatory
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:43:20 PM
what? just...what? i'm not intentionally trying to flame you, modtester and i apologize, maybe "drag in" was a bad choice of words, but we don't need to get other modders involved unless they want to (ggctuk and cull). i'm not hating (or not trying to, but for gods sake listen :bonk: ).you just need to stop accusing.
You accused me of dragging cull in. I accused you of hating on my contributions. I accept your apology then if you meant nothing bad. Ggctuk and cull were only brought up as examples of respectable modders.
I'm sure we can all appreciate the contributions of modders on this forum because it is quite small. This is why it is equally important to expand the knowledge base. Keeping certain processes secret does not provide any benefit to that knowledge base.
I hate to brake it to you mate but he was not apolgizing to you.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
I hate to brake it to you mate but he was not apolgizing to you.
I am modtester, which is who he was referring to, and he was apologizing for saying that "drag in" was an inappropriate assumption.
So "brake" not "break" it to me some more :cheer:
i was trying to stay on topic and to keep a productive conversation going here. but this is getting too confusing for me. and yes i was apologizing on my poor choice of words :P.
@sleepkiller: this guy has like 20 different user names
Oh, okay. And just so you know if you were not so mean and caught up in your ways with me I would shere my little secret with you but seeing as you always seem to hate me I think I'll live up to what you call me so I don't make you a lier :) .
Quote from: jdee-barc on October 30, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
i was trying to stay on topic and to keep a productive conversation going here. but this is getting too confusing for me. and yes i was apologizing on my poor choice of words :P.
@sleepkiller: this guy has like 20 different user names
Well I'm glad someone wants to contribute productively toward the thread objective. The first step to accomplishing the secondary goal is to achieve the first. We cannot fix the crash until we have the button in the menu. I do not see any justification for restricting the community from knowing how to add this feature, so as soon as I am able to add the exit to windows button to my common.lvl I will post the process in the first post. Anyone who helps will be acknowledged for such.
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 09:59:55 PM
Oh, okay. And just so you know if you were not so mean and caught up in your ways with me I would shere my little secret with you but seeing as you always seem to hate me I think I'll live up to what you call me so I don't make you a lier :) .
I don't believe in keeping these things secret, you never display the intention of sharing, but expressing that you know. You have fun keeping this small facet of knowledge from as many of us as you can for the short time you will be able to, but I am willing to share the deathmatch source code with anyone who wants it, just contact me. Or I can make a thread for it, and we can all discuss possible variations to it. Bamdur was the first person to discover deathmatch source code too, from what I hear. I'm so caught up in the ways of sharing modding knowledge that you could be worried I might accidentally forget to include your name should you decide release the method. I'll try my best not to forget crediting you if you change your mind.
that's enough, guys, c'mon.
offtopic: i just love this emoticon, don't you => :bonk:
Ontopic:
This is my single-player escape menu. The bottom button I want to add to my escape menu for multi-player. I know the .script files in common.lvl control this function to a great extent. I'm asking anyone who knows how to add this to post the process of how. That is the main purpose for this thread:
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLwS0r.jpg&hash=1c7f5748372a42523c2b8a60b9b08bc0bea7adec)
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 10:05:23 PM
I don't believe in keeping these things secret, you never display the intention of sharing, but expressing that you know. You have fun keeping this small facet of knowledge from as many of us as you can for the short time you will be able to, but I am willing to share the deathmatch source code with anyone who wants it, just contact me. Or I can make a thread for it, and we can all discuss possible variations to it. Bamdur was the first person to discover deathmatch source code too, from what I hear. I'm so caught up in the ways of sharing modding knowledge that you could be worried I might accidentally forget to include your name should you decide release the method. I'll try my best not to forget crediting you if you change your mind.
Actaully Bamdur learnt the source code from me I shered it with him when he asked. Fun Fact: I think you may have broken the same rule up to three times in this topic.
And if you promise to be nice to me under pain of ban I'll shere my little script with you. :)
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
Actaully Bamdur learnt the source code from me I shered it with him when he asked. Fun Fact: I think you may have broken the same rule up to three times in this topic.
And if you promise to be nice to me under pain of ban I'll shere my little script with you. :)
I think you have broken more rules in this thread than you did in the battlebelk one. Your relentless trolling and insults are always directed at derailing the thread and targeting me because you are basically trying to get the thread locked with the question being unanswered. The admins will only put up with so much of your thread sabotage efforts. I'm trying to be nice to you by offering you credits for helping in any tutorials I may write that would address this issue. I'm sorry if i broke any rules trying to keep the thread on topic.
Everything seems to revolve around these script files.
actually sleepkiller i had tested that before you sent me the source code and it had worked, but say that if you will. modtester/phobos what everyone else is sayign is correct swbf was designed to have the socket connection maintained during playing and if interupted produce bad results another reason why they dont have that. on many computers alt f4'ing during playing can be fixed by control alt deleting and ending swbf process but its a pesky thing to do.
oh and sorry for double posting but to solve this thread this is how you enable it. go into common.req
and remove "ifs_readyselect" well it appears it only works for single player, but after only testing for 5 mins its reasonable.