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Gaming for the Original SWBF1 and SWBF2/other games => Star Wars Battlefront (2004 Original) => Topic started by: Goldman on May 02, 2010, 08:22:10 PM

Title: Tips
Post by: Goldman on May 02, 2010, 08:22:10 PM
What are some really helpful tips for swbf
For each class and for playing on cc.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: aeria. on May 02, 2010, 08:47:22 PM
Don't jump too often. You can't jump and shoot.

Learn how to sticky nade and learn what floors can be sticky, learn how to properly use nades to make your enemy move in the direction YOU want them to move.

Learn how to strafe and aim at the same time. It's a lot harder than it sounds but it's a highly effective skill.

Learn how to properly adjust your shot as a sniper corresponding to distance and estimated spot where your enemy will be.

Install/make texture hacks. lol

Practice and practice a lot. At my peak I had at least 300 logged hours of playing SWBF. Now I suck because I rarely play it.

Play with friends, try doing 1 on 1 matches.

Learn from others.

Learn how to navigate the hallway corners of CC. Learn the hiding/peeking spots. Use sticky nades to effectively take out enemies trying to flank you.

Increase resolution size.

Get a decent mouse that provides decent accuracy and comfort. Any Apple mouse is not acceptable as a gaming mouse.

Turn down video settings so that you'll get a better framerate.

Learn how to mine throw. It's very useful as a rocket.

Recon droids have a surprisingly big radius, use it at the door of a CP to take out a few enemies.

Mine CPs. They'll hate you for it but it's an effective strategy.

Keep on moving. Don't stand still.

Keep on strafing. A strafing target's always harder to hit.

Learn how to effectively use the pistol.

Have fun.

--AG
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Goldman on May 02, 2010, 08:53:51 PM


Install/make texture hacks. lol

What is that?
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: aeria. on May 02, 2010, 08:57:04 PM
That part was kind of random. It's possible to modify the textures so that they're invisible. Therefore, you see where everyone is 0_o.

Not like anyone ever uses them... ahem...
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Goldman on May 02, 2010, 09:02:09 PM
Where do i ask for maps and mods?
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: aeria. on May 02, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
Ryan has worked very hard on archiving every SWBF map to date.
Check em out here: http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=310.0 (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=310.0)

Still can't find what you're looking for? Try:
http://www.swbffiles.com/ (http://www.swbffiles.com/)
http://www.the-pants.org/ (http://www.the-pants.org/)
Check our downloads section.

If you still can't find a map/you have a map idea, post here:
http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?board=14.0 (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?board=14.0)

--AG
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Master Zen on May 02, 2010, 09:40:53 PM
http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=1478.msg17847#msg17847 (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=1478.msg17847#msg17847)

This topic has some good tips, and covers quite a bit. I'd say the most important thing to getting better is just playing and practicing often.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Kelle` on May 02, 2010, 11:36:45 PM
tips?  roll, jump, grenades.
pressing spacebar (jump) while strafing will activate the roll. if there's one thing i love doing, it's rolling. roll roll roll. why a few players began to call me "rolly polly".  there's a few different types of rolls.
The Wall Roll is when you roll from behind a thin wall and arrive on the other side. i do this all the time on Cloud City at the entrance of the bridge part. there's those thin walls that, with a single roll, i can get on the other side swiftly and without taking much damage. rolling to get to a particular position is sometimes better and faster than just walking there. Doing this roll involves moving your mouse in the right direction. rolling around obstacle and recovering good position is a good way to go.
The Reload Roll is when you reload while rolling, which is a sometimes a good idea when you're a sniper. notice that rolling is always sometimes a good idea. i roll far too much for my own good. a good portion of my death come from my incessant jumping and rolling.  in any case, rolling is good when the terrain is right for it. reloading while rolling saved time while you're trying to dodge..projectiles.
The Feint Roll is when you roll while twisting the mouse all the way around, thus making you end up in the same spot where you first activated the roll. the idea here is the trick your opponent into thinking you'll roll to the side. again, the terrain and obstacles sorta needs to be in your favor to pull off this move successfully. it's not a very good move because if your opponent isn't tricked, you'll look pretty dumb rolling around in front of your foe with a big "free kills!" sticker on your helmet.
The Nade Roll is like nade-jumping but only instead of jumping from your grenade, you roll instead. nade-jumping is very efficient when you get the hang of it. it offers a great way to travel and get to high places for sniping and whatnot.  but sometimes i nade-roll. it has less arch and shoots you far. if i'm in a hurry to get to the front lines, i do the nade-roll to get there.  simply throw your grenade in front of you, time the explosion, turn sideways, roll toward the direction you want to go and BOOM!  don't try this sort of thing when team attack is on
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Snake on May 03, 2010, 08:36:36 AM
Other Tips, Advance tips (And a hack:P):

Never walk in a straight line

You move faster side to side when scoped than when you arent

always scope with pistol and rifle long range

aim for the head and chest....with all weapons

sniper is effective at close range too

in cloud city you can throw a nade just right when you first enter the hallway at the ceiling and it will land in the middle room and pwn people hiding

never get angry or you will start failing alot

join a good clan to teach you

come to MPCGamers tournaments!

throw grenades at walls behind the target and they might not move because they think it passed them

throw nades angled so they hit the ceiling and sticky on the floor by the target

aim at the ground with missiles and they will cause splash damage

use pistol while reloading (Or hide)

Uhh I cant think of much more but there are alot of things i cant really explain in words
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on May 03, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
Zig Zag and hide behind a lamp for me.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: quik on May 13, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: ag on May 02, 2010, 08:47:22 PM
Don't jump too often. You can't jump and shoot.

Learn how to sticky nade and learn what floors can be sticky, learn how to properly use nades to make your enemy move in the direction YOU want them to move.

Learn how to strafe and aim at the same time. It's a lot harder than it sounds but it's a highly effective skill.

Learn how to properly adjust your shot as a sniper corresponding to distance and estimated spot where your enemy will be.

Install/make texture hacks. lol

Practice and practice a lot. At my peak I had at least 300 logged hours of playing SWBF. Now I suck because I rarely play it.

Play with friends, try doing 1 on 1 matches.

Learn from others.

Learn how to navigate the hallway corners of CC. Learn the hiding/peeking spots. Use sticky nades to effectively take out enemies trying to flank you.

Increase resolution size.

Get a decent mouse that provides decent accuracy and comfort. Any Apple mouse is not acceptable as a gaming mouse.

Turn down video settings so that you'll get a better framerate.

Learn how to mine throw. It's very useful as a rocket.

Recon droids have a surprisingly big radius, use it at the door of a CP to take out a few enemies.

Mine CPs. They'll hate you for it but it's an effective strategy.

Keep on moving. Don't stand still.

Keep on strafing. A strafing target's always harder to hit.

Learn how to effectively use the pistol.

Have fun.

--AG

I just gotta call you out one thing, even if this topic is a little old.

Making your screen resolution bigger does not help gameplay at all. It comes down to preference. Same thing with sensitivity
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 13, 2010, 07:52:03 PM
lol, I use a crappy 80's acer mouse
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jon415 on May 14, 2010, 08:10:32 PM
very important to always keep moving.  Duckroll, run back and forth, and jump (but not too much) to make sure you dont get hit by those sneaky snipers.  When never stop to type while you are fighting (obvious) and when you do make sure you cannot be suddenly ambushed.  You cant move or shoot while typing.  Also when using recon droids make sure you have a more than perfect hiding spot.  If you see your person's health bar being depleted while in recon mode, press "E" to exit the recon droid.  Dont attempt to kill the person attacking your body with the crappy recon droid lazer.  Also dont get a gamepad and use auto-aim.  People (at least on gameranger) hate that.  And like AG said: make sure you have a non apple mouse.  Or if you have one of those ancient apple mouses with a right click and wheel that works good.  Also dont be really annoying in online games :P 
Hope that helps a little
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 14, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
i actually like the apple mouses (not the magic mouse). The mouse right b4 the current one was pretty sufficient and provided several options for the trackball (combat gestures).
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jon415 on May 14, 2010, 09:25:41 PM
The one with the two buttons except the second one is invisible and a tiny ball instead of a wheel?  I hate that mouse. Right click is too far away from left click plus you can't see the two buttons.  I prefer a wheel to a ball because that ball was way too small.  I played swbf2 and halo at my friends house with that mouse and it was horrible.  Better off with a PC mouse or an advanced gaming mouse if you have the money
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 15, 2010, 02:09:49 PM
you shouldnt need to see the mouse buttons to click :P
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: aeria. on May 16, 2010, 07:13:21 PM
All apple mouses have horrible accuracy, are completely not ergonomically designed, and fails to left and right click at the same time. It should never be used for gaming. I use an stock HP mouse and it's marvelous.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jon415 on May 16, 2010, 09:14:11 PM
I use a logitech wireless mouse and its great.  Yesterday i let my friend use my old apple mouse while i used my logitech mouse in an online game and he really sucked, mostly due to the mouse.  (His normal mouse, however, is an apple mouse with an extremely short cord and only one button)

My point in this is a mouse makes an enourmous difference.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 17, 2010, 04:49:47 PM
would a type of mouse be better for gaming? i automatically know wireless isnt very good, but would fiber optic, trackball or another type be best?
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jedikiller on May 17, 2010, 04:53:31 PM
Wired optical is best for gaming. Trackball is not good at all. Most gaming mice are wired and optical, though there are some that offer a wireless mode in addition to wired.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 17, 2010, 05:37:21 PM
ill look for some of those. Is a trackpad a must? currently i just use the wood on my desk as one. Another thing is that when i am playing a game like CoD i need a huge amount of surface area to aim. Do they make trackpads that cover a large area?
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: quik on May 17, 2010, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: Jedikiller on May 17, 2010, 04:53:31 PM
Wired optical is best for gaming. Trackball is not good at all. Most gaming mice are wired and optical, though there are some that offer a wireless mode in addition to wired.

Mine's wired and optical. It works great. It's pretty much as you said, trackball isn't good.

To be honest, trackball sucks. Wireless encounters many small issues that can overall affect your gaming.

Just buy a cheap 10$ mouse.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jedikiller on May 17, 2010, 06:00:19 PM
If you get a high-sensitivity mouse then you can work with a very small area. With my mouse on full sensitivity I can rotate 360 degrees by moving about 10-12 inches across the mousepad. I don't think a mousepad is needed, though I have to use one because my table is made of glass and optical mice do not work on glass. I have a Razer Copperhead.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 17, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
yea i heard razer was the best. If i had a bunch of money i would buy one. The sensitivity issue is a fixable one for me, i just have mouse sensitivity turned down because honestly i dont have the cod4 skill to shoot at that high a sensitivity. I do like the multiple buttons on the gaming mice, gives more quick options for close range combat.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: aeria. on May 17, 2010, 08:06:37 PM
Because of the fibers in a mousepad, it becomes very comfortable to use so I would recommend using one. I used a 90's mouse pad and those are extremely high quality. Don't use cheapo Staples mouse pads that are rough, use one that's slightly soft of you put pressure on it. It'll work wonders.

Also just because a mouse is labeled Ergonomic doesn't mean it's the best mouse available. Use a mouse that you can personally feel comfortable using. I use a stock HP mouse and it's honestly the best mouse I've ever used. It's light, not bulky, and it's accurate enough to be gaming with.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Soap Mactavish on May 17, 2010, 08:13:05 PM
ill check out best buy sometime
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Goldman on May 20, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
thanks for the tips
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on May 25, 2010, 11:25:10 PM
My mouse is wired, wraped tight so not to loose it. Its got red eye lazer and I like the feel of the grip when I play swbf1. It gives me what I don't like to call good luck while jumping to places never before seen by some swbf1 players. Its dead.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: DunkleSonne AKA: DarkSun on May 29, 2010, 01:54:59 PM
When Sniping the tunnel don't move your aimer while you strafe, hold it in one place and move your player round on the pointer. This helps lots.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: quik on May 29, 2010, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: ag on May 17, 2010, 08:06:37 PM
Because of the fibers in a mousepad, it becomes very comfortable to use so I would recommend using one. I used a 90's mouse pad and those are extremely high quality. Don't use cheapo Staples mouse pads that are rough, use one that's slightly soft of you put pressure on it. It'll work wonders.

Also just because a mouse is labeled Ergonomic doesn't mean it's the best mouse available. Use a mouse that you can personally feel comfortable using. I use a stock HP mouse and it's honestly the best mouse I've ever used. It's light, not bulky, and it's accurate enough to be gaming with.

OMG! So do I! they work so well!
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: norad®enalin on May 31, 2010, 04:01:54 PM
Corner Shots

The floor of CC is a good place to make "pixel shots" (it isnt really a pixel shot, but it seems like).
When you are hiding behind a wall and aiming near the corner, you can shot at your opponent without taking damage (if ur fast)..It seems like you are aiming through the corner...
Hard to explain, just try it out


Bug Nade on Floor..

There is a little bug in the ceiling of the floor... if u throw a granade on the ceiling (specific place), it "glitches" and lands on the other end of the floor... some experienced player would know what i mean
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Jon415 on May 31, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
Also the sticky nades on ceiling in the hallway.
Title: Re: Tips
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on June 01, 2010, 07:24:09 AM
Quote from: norad®enalin on May 31, 2010, 04:01:54 PM
Corner Shots
When you are hiding behind a wall and aiming near the corner, you can shot at your opponent without taking damage (if ur fast)..It seems like you are aiming through the corner...
Hard to explain, just try it out
I know what you are talking about. I wonder if some one taught my son or if he learned on his own.
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