Sony just made my day. :)
I was getting worried after Microsoft said that the X-box one needed to be connected to the internet everyday to keep playing and that they would put restrictions on second hand games but Sony have announced that the PS4 going to be the same as the PS3/360 so assuming the games they have are as good as they look they've gained a sale from me.
I also like the video they made that's clearly aimed at Microsoft. :)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
lol, they pretty much destroyed Microsoft during the end. Though a fee is required for online pay, 5 dollars per month isnt a big deal. Probably just get like a year subscription package or something.
Wait... what would happen if somebody went on vacation and had a Xbox One? they would come home to a dead Xbox one? What is Microsoft trying to accomplish here...? ???
Oh great is PS gonna be like xbox and pay for online thats total bullshark
Quote from: ϟƘƦƖןןΣx on June 11, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
Oh great is PS gonna be like xbox and pay for online thats total bullshark
Yes, unfortunately it looks like it will be a similar price per year to what X-box live is now.
Unlike the X-box though you can still use the PS4 offline.
Sigh thats why im might not buy it now i might get a really nice gaming computer instend i mean you buy a 400$ or something worth game station and to meet/play with other People you gotta pay? thats just not cool...
Advantage of a PC Gamer: You don't get lured into console wars as easily, and you don't really need to upgrade to the newest system until your computer dies or can't take the capabilities. :P
Also why I'm planning to upgrade to 8GB of RAM once my exams are over. :D
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on June 11, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
Also why I'm planning to upgrade to 8GB of RAM once my exams are over. :D
Yeah, you've said that a billion +1 times :P
I've played on consoles before (PS and GameCube mostly), they aren't as entertaining as a CP for me.
PS+ is far better than Xbox live in terms of what you get, and only multiplayer will be restricted to PS+. You can still watch Netflix on the PS4 without having to pay for subscriptions.
I've payed for Live the last few months anyways, I don't really mind having to pay for the PS+ service. Also, I'm assuming that the service will be greatly improved if it has a lot of money going towards it. And 50 dollars isn't even too much to ask if you play multiplayer a lot.
Anyways, I have to say that as a guy happy with his 360, who loves Halo, the PS4 just looks much more appealing to me. I'm pretty sure all my friends are switching over too, going to have to see if they want to play Destiny/Battlefield to get our shooter fix.
I might just see if I can get the PS4 for Christmas. I don't know if this is true but you would be able to play PS2 games on the PS4? Is it digital? It depends what's going on but I've always liked the Playstation consoles over the Xbox consoles.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on June 11, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
I might just see if I can get the PS4 for Christmas. I don't know if this is true but you would be able to play PS2 games on the PS4? Is it digital? It depends what's going on but I've always liked the Playstation consoles over the Xbox consoles.
The PS4 isn't backwards compatible, neither is the Xbox One. However, I believe Playstation has talked about the Gaikai service that would allow you to play PS 1/2/3 games. Gaikai won't launch until sometime in 2014 though, so it will be a bit before you can play previous games.
If you want to play older games I would recommend just buying a PS2/3, prices for both will be at rock bottom very soon.
Quote from: Droideka on June 11, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
PS+ is far better than Xbox live in terms of what you get, and only multiplayer will be restricted to PS+. You can still watch Netflix on the PS4 without having to pay for subscriptions.
I've payed for Live the last few months anyways, I don't really mind having to pay for the PS+ service. Also, I'm assuming that the service will be greatly improved if it has a lot of money going towards it. And 50 dollars isn't even too much to ask if you play multiplayer a lot.
Anyways, I have to say that as a guy happy with his 360, who loves Halo, the PS4 just looks much more appealing to me. I'm pretty sure all my friends are switching over too, going to have to see if they want to play Destiny/Battlefield to get our shooter fix.
Killzone?
And don't forget SWBF, u BK scrub hardscoper.
I'm probably in the same boat (thought if I do I decide to upgrade to the next generation, it won't be for a while) in that I'm not tied to Microsoft. From the pure hardware specs, it looks like the PS4 is the superior machine; whether this superiority will amount to anything or whether it will prove to merely be nominal will be up in the air.
That said, I don't know how you can say that PS+ is better than Xbox LIVE when it doesn't have HBO Go.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on June 11, 2013, 04:08:42 PM
Killzone?
And don't forget SWBF, u BK scrub hardscoper.
I'm probably in the same boat (thought if I do I decide to upgrade to the next generation, it won't be for a while) in that I'm not tied to Microsoft. From the pure hardware specs, it looks like the PS4 is the superior machine; whether this superiority will amount to anything or whether it will prove to merely be nominal will be up in the air.
That said, I don't know how you can say that PS+ is better than Xbox LIVE when it doesn't have HBO Go.
Personally, I'm fine with just Netflix, but maybe PS will announce HBO Go. You're right though, Xbox probably has a slight edge on the entertainment side of things.
I actually don't know much about Killzone, I'll try to do more research but I don't know if it's mainly a singleplayer shooter or if it has solid multiplayer. Gameplay does look nice though, and visually it looks like the PS4 cranks the game up.
I have a feeling that when it comes right down to it, Sony will win out on this one. Microsoft got many gamers away from the PS2 and PS3 with the seemingly superior play to the XBox and XBox Live (at least with what I noticed in my small microchasm). But with this new ploy for money by them, they will lose gamers fast. Online all the time? Give me a break. I can't get high speed, guess they lose a customer.
Microsoft will end up having to update the system for Single Player gaming and used games and cheaper prices for subscribing. Or drop out of the console wars pretty soon.
Let's not forget it is also region free. It just keeps getting better and better.
It's at times like this when I wish I wasn't confined to a PC.
All of the good games come from Japanland too. They have really good games there. It's a shame most of them are never localized. But, you could still import them although it's rather expensive (usually $70).
I think that Xbox Live is better than the PS3 online. Although the main reason I got my PS3 was for the free online which is funny now considering none of my consoles are usually hooked up. However, I predict that Sony's online will eventually beat out Micro$oft's in the future unless Microsoft can do some serious innovation without giving their customers the ever-growing shaft.
I think that Microsoft should be kissing Square Enix's feet and be making them breakfast in bed for the rest of their lives since SE decided to (in a decision I'm slightly against) to make Kingdom Hearts III multiplatform. Kingdom Hearts was one of Sony's exclusives (along with a few games for Nintendo like 358/2 Days and DDD).
I think the 360 was better then the PS3, but the PS4 is better the the Xbox "One". The Xbox "One" is pay for this, pay for that. PS4 is better, no questions asked.
It changes every console generation. The PS2, Original Xbox and Gamecube. Then the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii. And now the PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U. Each had their own time of greatness (except maybe Nintendo :shrug: )
I always preferred the Playstation format, the controller and how you can do more than play games with a Playstation.
Honestly, I want a gaming console to [spoiler]JUST be a gaming console!!!!!![/spoiler] Why don't they make gaming systems, for gaming!!! Then they would be better at gaming, and cheaper too. If I want to watch a movie, I'll buy a stinking DVD player!!!
Yeah im with ya josh....
Quote from: Josh on June 13, 2013, 10:04:01 AM
If I want to watch a movie, I'll buy a stinking DVD player!!!
Nahh man, you need a Blu-Ray player to watch movies. :D
The Blu_ray idea was probably by the same idiot that thought we needed several different screw head types.
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Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on June 13, 2013, 07:02:21 PM
The Blu_ray idea was probably by the same idiot that thought we needed several different screw head types.
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In the screws defense you need different screw heads for different things, although Philips head is the easiest and most used.
Blu-Ray players are actually pretty cool. DVD is 480i and Blu-Ray is 1080p. Blu-Ray also has better sound quality, I'm getting one soon then the Star Wars saga on Blu-Ray for my birthday! (hopefully)
Quote from: Kit Fisto on June 13, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
In the screws defense you need different screw heads for different things, although Philips head is the easiest and most used.
Exactly, because EVERYONE in the whole dang world has to have the own version of a product or gadget.
I can understand wanting to be unique, but at least we can get away with the same BASIC screw. (or anything for that matter..)
I'm not saying changing the sizes of things (or else we'd still have old english woman purse sized phones on our shoulders), but why have so many shapes to go threw..
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Which might explain the consoles that do everything. No one (except Josh and a few others apparently) want to dig out 500 machines to do the same closely related thing.
edit- Same with 3D models, which I am all hyped up about right now, as you can see. :P