Features both the first and second games, plus DLC. Will release on Steam, PS4, PS5 and Switch.
Saw it a few minutes ago!!! Great that the classics return to consoles, I have a special nostalgia for the PS2 version. :)
I'm happy to finally be able to play these games on the go (I'll be buying on Switch). I am curious what the modding situation will be, though. I don't consider this affecting my plans - my mods target the currently-existing versions - but it would be nice to know whether modding will be possible in these new versions.
Also, the PC version is being reported as needing 50GB free space. The games originally don't even take up half that.
Thats what im saying! Lol each game was like 4 or 3 gigs big. What the heck is the other 40 gigs being used for?
the pc release is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
I can only presume that 50GB is something to do with the changes like 64 player games?
Seems a lot though!
it will be so nice to see filled up servers again after all these years...
i only really wanna know if theyll update the previous steam versions or we have to buy it again lol
I'm optimistic they'll do a good job and only change background things to get it working, nothing gameplay related. This could be a very good 20th birthday present. For the game not for me sadly 😉
Not a chance of a free update I don't think.
I have seen that in SWBF1 they will only add Tatooine: Jabba while in SWBF2 some of the maps that were originally in the first game will be available (such as Rhen Var).
It would've been great if they included some SWBF2 maps in SWBF1 (if Aspyr sees this I invite them to use my assets and make it happen :P ) or just brand-new maps. Maybe this could come in future DLCs.
Quote from: hellish hellbird on February 21, 2024, 10:31:53 AMi only really wanna know if theyll update the previous steam versions or we have to buy it again lol
Good question.
Quote from: hellish hellbird on February 21, 2024, 10:31:53 AMi only really wanna know if theyll update the previous steam versions or we have to buy it again lol
On Steam it is being sold as a single combined game. So I don't believe it's replacing the originals.
There's a 10-20% discount for owners of the originals.
Quote from: Unit 33 on February 21, 2024, 09:39:14 AMthe pc release is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
I can only presume that 50GB is something to do with the changes like 64 player games?
Seems a lot though!
it will be so nice to see filled up servers again after all these years...
It's most likely the 50gb thing is some placeholder thing
One big thing to note: there's absolutely no way they have two separate builds, and there's absolutely no way they're using the PC spawn screens for console, especially given that the PC spawn screens are unwieldy af on PC, let alone trying to navigate them with controllers.
Which likely means we're getting the console UI for PC.
And that means goodbye to the 5 unit limit for SWBF1.
I would honestly contemplate abandoning modding the older versions just for that.
I would be interested to learn what version of multiplayer netware they will use :cheers:
Quote from: Giftheck on February 22, 2024, 03:50:00 AMAnd that means goodbye to the 5 unit limit for SWBF1.
This would most certainly be awesome, but I had been under the impression that expanding the unit limit required hacking the .exe. Wouldn't that still apply?
Reunion games anyone? ;)
Quote from: Ty294 on February 22, 2024, 05:49:42 AMThis would most certainly be awesome, but I had been under the impression that expanding the unit limit required hacking the .exe. Wouldn't that still apply?
The code for the console spawn screen is quite different to the PC version. The limit doesn't appear to exist, or at least not as restricted on the console spawn screen.
Quote from: Giftheck on February 22, 2024, 03:25:48 PMThe code for the console spawn screen is quite different to the PC version. The limit doesn't appear to exist, or at least not as restricted on the console spawn screen.
Man, I hope you're right! I never thought that this could even be a possibility.
The original coded limit was 12. Assuming they use the console code, that would be the limit.
The people that Pandemic farmed the PC spawn screen out made it only support 5 because that was what was on every map.
If you break the PC Spawn Select as I've noted maybe in the Tutorials section (requires hex editing the exe), you can have up to the original designed limit of 12 with various issues that come from poor memory allocations on the screen.
Interesting post from reddit about 64bit:
Maybe it's just the poster's hype boiling over, but the speculation is interesting. I'm sure folk here might have some insight.
QuoteAlthough one thing I haven't seen anybody really talking about is the 64 bit requirement.
On surface level this means pretty much nothing to anyone because we've oddly enough been running 64 bit Operating systems since 2005 when battlefront 2 came out. However, both games were developed with 32 bit systems in mind thus limiting them to 4gb of ram with out stability hangups.
If you check out the Steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2446550/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_Classic_Collection/) page. You can see that the minimum requirements state that a 64 bit operating system is required. Assuming that this wasn't written in error, it would imply that there has been an upgrade to the games engine. This upgrade would enable a plethora of things but I think the key takeaways are as follows:
• Better stability
• Ability to add MORE MODS
• HIGHER QUALITY mods
• Potential mod.io (https://mod.io/) support as per the EULA also mentioned on the steam page
so what limitations do the games have that are a result of 32 bit ?
considering that Steam does not support 32-bit OS, I'm not sure it matters. The exe could still be 32-bit...or even if it is not, it may still be limited. Time will tell!
So basically if you still have the original game and you still working on the mod for originals you may want to read it, RECOMMENDED
By Games at risk of removal February 21
"Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection releasing on March 14, 2024." meaning they could remove it once the classic collection release.
Quote from: jonjonshell21 on March 12, 2024, 02:42:39 AMSo basically if you still have the original game and you still working on the mod for originals you may want to read it, RECOMMENDED
By Games at risk of removal February 21
"Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection releasing on March 14, 2024." meaning they could remove it once the classic collection release.
I assume you are referring to a list like this:
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/31857481-Games-at-risk-of-removal/
Those kinds of lists are made by random users. There has been no official word on whether the old listings are going to be removed.
Well this is what I found out According to a Steam discussion, old games will be delisted from the store page, but owners of the video game before delisting will still be able to download them.
Quote from: jonjonshell21 on March 12, 2024, 03:53:37 AMWell this is what I found out According to a Steam discussion, old games will be delisted from the store page, but owners of the video game before delisting will still be able to download them.
Yes, from a cynical business perspective it is entirely possible.
There's been no official announcement in the regard, and there's still a lot to learn about how the new collection will interact with mods.
We expect and hope that mods will work fine, but we can only know for sure in a few days.
That is what I am expecting.
There's been a a lot of gameplay clips surfacing with the review embargo lifting and NZ players getting it in their time zone.
My initial impression is that they might have increased the low res unit threadhold.
Fonts are updated and textures have seemingly been upscaled with AI (?)
Obviously we'll have a lot more to unpack in the coming days.
(https://i.imgur.com/HxV8dtY.png)
Looks good visually, but I don't think I'm a fan of the new HUD font, especially in SWBF1. The original one is iconic!
So far, here's what we know:
The good:
- They are using the console UI instead of PC, which means the ring character select. The console spawn select is not limited to 5 units per side but rather 12.
- Addon is confirmed, Jabba's Palace is being run through it.
- Multiplayer seems a lot more stable than SWBF2
- Scopes in SWBF1 are aspect ratio-appropriate, in SWBF2 they're square in the middle of the screen with no black bars either side.
The bad:
- They broke the loading screen sound
- They're using a different font (likely a similar one to the menu font used in DICE BF2015) instead of the classic AmarilloUSAF font
- IMPORTANT: they changed the LUA version to LUA 5. Mods do not currently work as a result.
Random observations:
- There is a single executeable. Each game is instead loaded through this as a DLL.
- Bink DLL has been updated from binkw32.dll to binkw64.dll
Also they have mod support.
I'm excited for this, and to be honest I'm not really sure why. I own both games on steam, and both seem perfectly fine to me. Not have I ever been super big into multiplayer. I'm certainly impressed by the texture improvements I've seen but that hardly justifies the purchase. Maybe it is just that I want to show support for still paying attention to a great pair of 20 year old games that in a lot of ways so hold up.
Now one thing I truly am excited for is it being on Switch. I've wanted a way to take the full games mobile for a long time, but never was able to come up with a way I thought would work. That said, I don't actually own a switch, and that's not an insignificant investment.
Quote from: Giftheck on March 13, 2024, 02:03:54 PMThe bad:
- They broke the loading screen sound
I'm currently watching a Twitch stream https://www.twitch.tv/sadotthegamer
Earlier he was playing BF1 and the level loading sound was the classic one. Guess they either fixed it with a patch for release tomorrow OR they just stuffed up the PC version's loading sound (which I hope is not the case) and will be reverted like it is for the PS5 version the streamer was playing.
LUA 5 is being used instead of LUA 4 which means mods are broken and do not currently work.
Quote from: Giftheck on March 13, 2024, 11:35:53 PMLUA 5 is being used instead of LUA 4 which means mods are broken and do not currently work.
Damn, okay that explains it then :(
The most disappointing of this collection it is the fact it smells like a "easy money grab release" for those people who didn't have the chance to own original copies (such as Switch owners). The only that justifies LUA upgrade maybe are due to its capabilities, but yeah... they messed up the games a bit.
I'm not sure if this is linked to the Steam Overlay or if it's just genuinely a bug in the game - Whenever I return to the spawn screen, my camera freaks out. Do we know if this happens for everyone or if it's because of the Steam Overlay?
Original Battlefront HATED the overlay.
The general paying public seems to be upset at the multi-player issues, which I understand, but the big one of just not having enough servers seems like it has been fixed? Other issues were probably to be expected, we should probably have been more shocked if things had gone without a hitch.
The modding issues I find more concerning. I never messed with mods too much but the fact that as of now none will work on the CC is disappointing. I haven't seen these issues mentioned in the media yet, I wonder is Aspyr may have a response to that.
Im not ready to condemn it just yet and don't have much time to play in the next week or so anyway, so I'll probably sit on it for now and considering refunding after Aspyr has had time to do some triage.
The real value to this release is for consoles, so tbh I'm still tempted to buy a switch even if I end up refunding on steam.
Quote from: Ltin on March 14, 2024, 01:42:08 PMThe modding issues I find more concerning. I never messed with mods too much but the fact that as of now none will work on the CC is disappointing. I haven't seen these issues mentioned in the media yet, I wonder is Aspyr may have a response to that.
Mods made for Battlefront 2 seem to still work on the CC version, of course, the only mods that don't work currently were the ones that relied on the v1.3 patch, not sure if or when it'll be ported over, but a few mods I've tried - mainly map mods and some trooper models seem to still work, albeit, not the best.
Edit: And the custom era mods.
Another issue I remember hearing is that the game is missing the end 501st Journal cutscenes for the campaign missions, I haven't actually checked, but apparently they didn't include the end-mission cutscenes or something.
I think I've said everything I have to say in this video
Quote from: Giftheck on March 14, 2024, 03:17:03 PMI think I've said everything I have to say in this video
Good to know your thoughts on it - Personally, my own thoughts are that while the game has issues, I've enjoyed what I've played of it so far. Still, it's not better than the originals, especially if unofficial patch 1.3 never gets updated to work with the CC, then we'd lose a lot of mods that relied on it, (potentially.)
I did go back and play some of the original Battlefront 2 today and had fun as well - I wish there were servers that supported the XBOX DLC mod - which is why I still play the CC because I've enjoyed playing as Ventress in online servers.
Also, I definitely agree that Aspyr messed up on this port, so many issues with it and there's not really any excuse they could use.
Overall I've been happy with the multiplayer and having a great time but minor issues I've come across that hopefully will be patched:
Mouse wheel isn't consistent to change weapons, I had to put it on another key. The mouse is fine in other games.
No option to reverse x axis when flying. The button has disappeared so I assume it's a mistake.
No option to cancel if you select the wrong spawn or unit, you have to watch the whole countdown.
No Jabba on the official servers ;)
Quote from: Giftheck on March 14, 2024, 03:17:03 PMI think I've said everything I have to say in this video
It's another missed opportunity... Both SWBF deserve to be re-released as the great games they were and still are!
Aspyr has a request form that things can be submitted to: https://support.aspyr.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
I'm not thinking of anyone on SWBFgamers here, but just remember to be nice, I'm sure the person who reads these requests is working very hard ♥
There's been a new statement from Aspyr Joe about the situation with the multiplayer servers at launch:
https://support.aspyr.com/hc/en-us/articles/25019494892429-An-update-on-the-STAR-WARS-Battlefront-Classic-Collection
According to this statement, they experienced critical errors with their network infrastructure at launch.
I am not particularily outraged, but then I only returned to the game a few weeks ago.
It comes across as a cynical port, and it is a shame that modders weren't contracted during development in a similar manner as the TR remaster.
Perhaps because this is a port, and not a remaster™, budgets were far more constricting.
SWBF1's multiplayer has been very enjoyable. The unorganised chaos of large servers is a welcome sight, and shamelessly tickles my nostalgia.
A lot of the small changes like font don't bother me.
I wonder if any of the devs were on the Aspyr team when they ported SWBF to Mac all those years ago?
I do wonder about that as well. I've only returned to the game recently, mainly when they announced a classic collection was coming out. Battlefront's netcode has always been rubbish, not sure if Aspyr would've been able to completely change the netcode on a "port" budget, but this collection is what I'd call a "soft-remaster", according to what I've heard, most of the textures were put through AI-Upscaling. Not entirely sure if that's true, but I've played for about an hour or 2 today and found that the servers seem to be a lot more stable.
I'm in the camp that I'm glad to have the CC because of the xbox dlc being officially supported now and other stuff, but I do think if the people who are complaining about the game submit feedback to Aspyr that they might actually put in effort to fix the issues. With all the issues surrounding Embracer recently, I wouldn't be surprised if the budgets for certain projects were quite low.
"Overwhelming support"?!
(That one line was take 4, I burst out laughing reading that sentence in the other three takes and barely held it in for the fourth :giggle: )
I don't know what I just witnessed, but it seems most of the Aspyr dedicated servers for BF2 crashed all at once?
The game DC'd me and when I went to look at the server browser, all of the aspyr servers were gone. I even restarted the game and they were still gone.
I will not make the obvious joke, I will not make the obvious joke, I will not make the obvious joke
Looks like the MP is in a worst state today than it was the other day:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374195680673136640/1218616684739428403/image.png?ex=6608503a&is=65f5db3a&hm=c1ddbb203f35b57535e3404bcf02659457722393104f7d3f80aa6644babebde2&)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/696292183099047938/1218619081356476546/image.png?ex=66085275&is=65f5dd75&hm=382fa0226d9369d083bb7442f8eb9f91438247b3068c459ee9431d63125c5d71&)
Not a lot of aspyr servers, sometimes more appear and sometimes they don't appear at all.
During a stream today I saw that there is only one server available on SWBF1 multiplayer. :shrug:
I've seen a screenshot of 0 servers on both SWBF1 and SWBF2 in the CC. This is horrendous and Aspyr should feel ashamed of letting the games release like this.
I hope Steam start accepting refunds for this game no matter how many hours people have, this is like Cyberpunk except the issues are with multiplayer...
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2024, 01:45:04 AMI've seen a screenshot of 0 servers on both SWBF1 and SWBF2 in the CC. This is horrendous and Aspyr should feel ashamed of letting the games release like this.
I hope Steam start accepting refunds for this game no matter how many hours people have, this is like Cyberpunk except the issues are with multiplayer...
Agreed. It's a complete sh*tshow (excuse my french), but they really dropped the ball BIG TIME with this release. Let's hope they can pull a complete 180 and save this mess somehow even though its probably already too late :(
I randomly saw some very interesting information in an IGN YouTube video. The Aspyr developers seem to have used 3D models from an iamshaymin mod (Kit Fisto and Asajj Ventress) but with certain modifications to work in CC (exclusively in PC version). If iamshaymin himself has confirmed this, it is evident that Aspyr would have used mod source files but probably without giving credits.
Here's the video in case you're interested in (around 2:52):
Shaymin has indeed confirmed it. He's had copies of the 1.0 game dumped on multiple platforms and found his files in the demunge.
Quote from: Giftheck on March 19, 2024, 02:08:01 AMShaymin has indeed confirmed it. He's had copies of the 1.0 game dumped on multiple platforms and found his files in the demunge.
Damn. They said they wouldn't do that, definitely can't be trusted. I'm glad the KOTOR Remake project was taken off of them.