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Title: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 05, 2009, 12:20:23 AM
A one day fight to see who is the overall champ of SWBF units.

Alright, so the objective of this tournament is purely to see who can fight best with each unit and combine the scores to see who is the overall best.- people will get some special points in this tournament but i will post the scoring tomorrow. The tournament will be played in 5 maps, for the 5 units, each map everyone that plays uses the troop for that map, listing in the line of Rifle troopers, Heavy troopers, Pilots, Snipers, and Special (GCW only for balance).

Naboo: Airfield (nabair1) - Rifle Trooper - This is pending if BD chooses to release the final version before this tournament.
Death Star: Interior (dea1) - Rocket Trooper
Tatooine: Jabba (tat3) - Pilot Trooper
Maze (maz1)  - Sniper Trooper
Taking suggestions for Special Trooper map- GCW ONLY.

Ill update tomorrow with a for sure map list and arrangements for a host please post if you are willing to host. (the maps will be based on the best map for that unit)


So thoughts on this insane idea? i'm looking for a 30 player epic rifle trooper battle :)
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Commander Gree on July 05, 2009, 12:35:06 AM
Count me in please! I wonder who gave you that idea...  :happy:
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: khy on July 05, 2009, 05:48:53 AM
i think this is a good idea.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Mac on July 05, 2009, 06:26:38 AM
Good idea. I'm in.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Breakdown on July 05, 2009, 08:18:52 AM
Ah heck I'll join in, I can work on nabair a bit more today, the next release should be in the next few days
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Rhino on July 05, 2009, 09:57:54 AM
I'll join, though is this in DC or GR?
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: zorba1994 on July 05, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
Good idea, just a few things.

We should also do another map so that the wookie people get to play Dark Trooper and vice-versa (Maybe for the pilots too, as they are completely different).

I suggest for the special map to be Rhen Vahr Citadel

Also, snipers on maze? That's a mostly close quarters map!. Try Cloud City, or Harbor.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Yankee on July 05, 2009, 06:11:33 PM
I like the idea, but maze for sniper? i dont mind much since im pretty good at maze especially with sniper, but im just thinking about everyone else....

And a map suggestion for special would have to be a close quarters map that is indoors maybe, like Jabba. This is so that the jet doesnt have such the ability to run and heal if he gets damaged, the wookie can run as well. Maybe make attack of the pig's the special map? xD
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: SchTicK on July 05, 2009, 06:26:28 PM
Heck yea! :smile:
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: w0rm on July 05, 2009, 10:08:09 PM
ah i may as well try and come. if i remember
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: aeria. on July 05, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
I'd might as well join.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 05, 2009, 11:32:17 PM
@Rhino: It will be a DC - and it looks like Yankee has stepped up to hosting it.

@Zorba: Yes I'm having trouble figuring what to do about the pilots and special troopers, in practice the pilots could also "fly" ships but that leads to once the ships are killed off one side will be spawn killing the rest of the map, along with only being Bespin: Platforms for star fighter battle, but if its ground it is as you say almost like a different unit, so i'm still considering what to do (have it as a air battle with ships only....would pretty much need a new map built for that) or have it as a ground battle in some close combat map.

Also, Maze is a close quarters combat map, but the sniper is extremely effective at close quarters, with the fact that it is also a range map if you walk outside, and outside is a very effective place for a sniper on Maze, however these were just ideas, not set maps. i was just trying to get the list out their at 2 am. and while harbor sounds nice, people would use tanks; and a sniper can't hold well against a tank no matter how many recons he has.


@Everyone, thanks for the support wasn't sure how this idea would play out :)
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Yankee on July 06, 2009, 08:19:49 AM
i think pilots should be ground to ground, and maybe make it to where the people play the map twice, once as each unit, and have someone there to make sure people are on the right teams?
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Breakdown on July 06, 2009, 08:38:09 AM
For pilot map, maybe something like Hoth: Escape? Since that map covers both flying around and infantry
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: zorba1994 on July 06, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
Quote from: Hardcore on July 05, 2009, 11:32:17 PM
@Rhino: It will be a DC - and it looks like Yankee has stepped up to hosting it.

@Zorba: Yes I'm having trouble figuring what to do about the pilots and special troopers, in practice the pilots could also "fly" ships but that leads to once the ships are killed off one side will be spawn killing the rest of the map, along with only being Bespin: Platforms for star fighter battle, but if its ground it is as you say almost like a different unit, so i'm still considering what to do (have it as a air battle with ships only....would pretty much need a new map built for that) or have it as a ground battle in some close combat map.

Also, Maze is a close quarters combat map, but the sniper is extremely effective at close quarters, with the fact that it is also a range map if you walk outside, and outside is a very effective place for a sniper on Maze, however these were just ideas, not set maps. i was just trying to get the list out their at 2 am. and while harbor sounds nice, people would use tanks; and a sniper can't hold well against a tank no matter how many recons he has.


@Everyone, thanks for the support wasn't sure how this idea would play out :)


Make a rule when we enter that says no tanks allowed. Its not like this is a pub match.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Jedikiller on July 06, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
You could always just make server-side versions of the maps that allowed only what you wanted to allow. This would resolve some aspects of the rules problem.

Sounds interesting. I might be up for this.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Yankee on July 06, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
I am def. up for this, who thinks they can take me in the sniper competition?!?! any takers? :whip:
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Commander Gree on July 06, 2009, 11:59:59 PM
Not Me...  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: _-Destructor-_ on July 07, 2009, 08:46:58 AM
ill join :D ill try my luck against yankee but i know ill lose :(
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: General X on July 10, 2009, 11:08:29 AM
Count me in on the tourney but i can only on some Dc's  :(
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 10, 2009, 03:41:23 PM
Alright i will consider JK's idea for that to stop for people joining who don't know what unit to start with ect, but first we need to settle on maps so we can get this going!

A few new maps have turned to my attention so ill look into those for the sniper rather then Maze.

Any other suggestions for the Special Troops tho?
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Rexy on July 17, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
Im in on this deffenetley. I think I can outwit yankee this time  ::) ::)
I know this is off topic but do we have a date set for this?
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Yankee on July 17, 2009, 11:34:04 PM
i would like to see you try  ::)
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: w0rm on July 17, 2009, 11:51:26 PM
i will. me and wookie. bring it on yanks, bring it on
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 18, 2009, 07:40:24 PM
myg1 will be used for Snipers map, however if we have a small number we'll change the map.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Darth Verik on July 19, 2009, 02:24:36 PM
Can i be in only 2 of them? the specials and the rocket? because i just hate maze, i havent played the map of BD i just cant face a hole game whit only pilots so... its that or not xD
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 19, 2009, 06:10:50 PM
In conception, no- their is no point in being in only 2 maps, it would defeat the purpose of the tournament being to find the best all around player, someone who is the best with all of the units, making it fair if someone is only good with sniper and nothing else, they have a better chance at losing then someone who is good with 3 units.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: A-99 on July 21, 2009, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: Hardcore on July 05, 2009, 12:20:23 AM
A one day fight to see who is the overall champ of SWBF units.

Alright, so the objective of this tournament is purely to see who can fight best with each unit and combine the scores to see who is the overall best.- people will get some special points in this tournament but i will post the scoring tomorrow. The tournament will be played in 5 maps, for the 5 units, each map everyone that plays uses the troop for that map, listing in the line of Rifle troopers, Heavy troopers, Pilots, Snipers, and Special (GCW only for balance).

Naboo: Airfield (nabair1) - Rifle Trooper - This is pending if BD chooses to release the final version before this tournament.
Death Star: Interior (dea1) - Rocket Trooper
Tatooine: Jabba (tat3) - Pilot Trooper
Maze (maz1)  - Sniper Trooper
Taking suggestions for Special Trooper map- GCW ONLY.

Ill update tomorrow with a for sure map list and arrangements for a host please post if you are willing to host. (the maps will be based on the best map for that unit)


So thoughts on this insane idea? i'm looking for a 30 player epic rifle trooper battle :)

Don't seee a list going on, but I'll join (thanks Destructor ;))

I realize other people made some suggestions but I'll add my own.

Rifle Trooper - Naboo Airfield is a good choice, little lag. Mos Eisely and Citadel are other good close combat maps.

Rocket Trooper - Dea1 is a good choice

Pilot Trooper - Ehhh its really hard to subjugate the pilot (except for perhaps Zappy) as they are versatile to any environment. The most important weapon on the pilot is the pistol, and only the best pilots (or anyone using any unit with a pistol) can survive while having to reload or not. I would suggest Da1. Gives ample room for all pilots to pose a threat. In Jabba, you would simply see zappys possibly having the upper hand 90% of the time.

Sniper Trooper - Da1. Maze1 may be good for close combat sniping. But da1 will always be the king map for long distance sniping, and if people are truly good, they will get in close to confuse and keep their opponent guessing. Naboo Airfield is another great choice for this.

Special (GCW) - Hard to say. Any good dark troopers (not many around....) will be able to use almost any situation to their advantage against the slow wookie, unless its in an enclosed space which might be "unfair" to the jets. CC Courtyard could be a good option.

While I would like to participate in this tournament, everyone here should realize that out sniping or rifling, another sniper or rifler does not make the you best rifler. It makes you the best rifler vrs another rifler. The BEST RIFLER would be one who could use the unit and win against all other opposing units. But that would be extremely hard to regulate.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on July 21, 2009, 12:00:12 PM
True, this is not to find the best player with each unit, or the best player in the game over all, but purely to see who is the best rounded player, someone who can play all the units with a good split of skill and takes the cake for it.

Perhaps you are right about the pilots, As you can see we are currently having thoughts on how to fairly play this, as its not fair to have one map for the Special troopers, for those better with the jet over the wookiee, or wookiee over jet, or zappy over bobbly ect so we're stuck in a debate to hold 5 or 7 maps, 7 maps would in most counts be too long for any tournament- along with the entire "pilots should be in tanks or ships" thus negating the entire pilot weapon problem, but brings out that no map is really spawn kill safe for ships.


As for the sniper maps, Da1, Myg1, or Maz1 are the only options at this point, the only reason i lean away form Da1 is the spawn killing that can happen if 3 people know where the spawns are and someone gets up the enemy ramp- however if this is what yall want for the map i'm fine with it.


Other thoughts on the pilots is a nice map may be Bes9

So if anyone can give advice for this, we can get this moving sooner.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Rexy on August 17, 2009, 09:46:50 PM
Myg crashes alot for me I dont know for anyone else.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Hardcore on August 17, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
Yes, i've found that for no reason to my knowledge, the map crashes...SOME people.

I can't figure out why so it is unlikely we will end up using myg1 even tho its a good map for it.
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Rexy on September 11, 2009, 07:09:40 AM
So... Is this tourney just going to fall away like the others?
Title: Re: Tournament - Class Action - Date: TBA
Post by: Jedikiller on September 11, 2009, 03:44:54 PM
I think it's been dead and buried for some time now.

I'll go ahead and lock it for now... hc, you're an admin, you can unlock it if you want to start it up again.
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