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Title: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on February 23, 2013, 05:21:35 AM
I know I seem to be copying off jdee's post by doing this, :P  but it has been going for a while. I play SWBF a lot, and I rarely (if ever) overheat. However, when I play SWBF2 for an hour or 2, it always cuts mid-game (regardless if server hosting or not). I don't know why though! Help!

Just so nobody refers this:

Yes, I have a cooling pad. It is on a very cool surface, and the fan is 1 big one.

Also, tech specs: HP Pavillion DV3Z, AMD Turion 64 x2 dual-core processor, ATI Radeon graphics, Windows Vista OS

Please note: I am a cheapskate, I don't have the money to blow on a bunch of top-of-the-line stuff to keep my laptop running, so some low-tech solution or something that involves least amount of money is key to me!

AND YES, I AM AWARE OF THE IRONY OF A MAN OF GOLD BEING CHEAP!
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Ltin on February 23, 2013, 05:41:07 AM
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on February 23, 2013, 05:21:35 AM
I know I seem to be copying off jdee's post by doing this, :P  but it has been going for a while. I play SWBF a lot, and I rarely (if ever) overheat. However, when I play SWBF2 for an hour or 2, it always cuts mid-game (regardless if server hosting or not). I don't know why though! Help!

Just so nobody refers this:

Yes, I have a cooling pad. It is on a very cool surface, and the fan is 1 big one.

Also, tech specs: HP Pavillion DV3Z, AMD Turion 64 x2 dual-core processor, ATI Radeon graphics, Windows Vista OS
Swbf2 doeant like dual core processors. You can disable one and it will work fine, but i dont know how to do that.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: {212th} Ldr. Norris on February 23, 2013, 07:28:24 AM
Play swbf1 instead?  :tu:
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Ltin on February 23, 2013, 09:36:23 AM
1 issue with that.
galactic conquest sucks in swbf1. Besides, his clan is mostly swbf2 now.
the issue with the processors is that the game tries to overload one of the processors, and when it cant handle it, the game shuts down. Its not overheating.
edit, and to disable it all you need to do is a little clicking, ill try to find out how to do that.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 06, 2013, 04:27:10 AM
Quote from: Ltin on February 23, 2013, 09:36:23 AM
1 issue with that.
galactic conquest sucks in swbf1. Besides, his clan is mostly swbf2 now.
the issue with the processors is that the game tries to overload one of the processors, and when it cant handle it, the game shuts down. Its not overheating.
edit, and to disable it all you need to do is a little clicking, ill try to find out how to do that.

Out of curiosity, would you be able to that for specifically SWBF2? My laptop runs SWBF1 perfectly, it just has issues with SWBF2.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Black Water on March 06, 2013, 04:33:14 AM
My swbf runs well too on laptop. I played swbf2 a couple of times but recently when I try to join a game I crash...
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Ltin on March 06, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
edit: i saw you fixed it
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Roxas on March 06, 2013, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: Erudite on March 06, 2013, 04:33:14 AM
My swbf runs well too on laptop. I played swbf2 a couple of times but recently when I try to join a game I crash...
Recently? That's strange. Because even though I fixed it by turning compatibility mode on (at the cost of my profile....). My copy of SWBF2 had been working perfectly up till recently as well. I just find it odd that a handful of us suddenly have the same problem around the same time.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Black Water on March 06, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
do you have a gateway laptop? For me I think it's because all I play is swbf and then when I try any other game I crash....
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: RepComm on March 06, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Roxas on March 06, 2013, 05:14:44 PM
I just find it odd that a handful of us suddenly have the same problem around the same time.
Actually, I was thinking the exact same thing.. One of my friends on BF2 and me are crashing all the time for no reason, as is my brother.. It only started recently.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 06, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: Erudite on March 06, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
do you have a gateway laptop? For me I think it's because all I play is swbf and then when I try any other game I crash....

Same here, or at least similar. I've played SWBF1 on this laptop for 3 years total, and the thing itself is 5. However when I play SWBF2, it always overheats on my laptop after 1-2 hours of gameplay. Even when I was playing Minecraft Classic for a bit on here, it still overheated after 90 mins or so. I assumed it was since my laptop was so used to running this game, but if there's some way to solve the issue, please tell me.

As I stated above, mine is a HP Pavillion DV3Z. It is not a Gateway.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Black Water on March 06, 2013, 05:52:27 PM
Ah, they found out about our plan to spread the tunngle word  :panic:
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: aeria. on March 06, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Please, please do not buy an HP laptop. You can buy their desktops, their printers, anything else. Just keep away from the laptops. They're terribly designed and an overwhelming amount of their models have overheating and quality control issues. You can ask any technician that has been repairing computer for long enough.

The only thing you can do is decrease the video settings. It'll take the workload off of your laptop and it will fair better. If you're overheating from Minecraft, you know there's an issue with your computer.

As for the "dual core" issue, I don't have any direct benchmarks showing how well it handles under dual core processors but I will mention that my old Core 2 Duo T7700 (mid-2007 2.4 dual core) with an ATI HD 2600 ran the game well. No signs of instability from my experience. My newer Sandy Bridge Pentium G860 (a modern dual core, but still a dual core) also runs the game very smoothly. Paired with a GTX 570 it runs on max settings without any framerate drops. I can't say anything about the AMD counterparts.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Ltin on March 06, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 06, 2013, 05:45:36 PM
Same here, or at least similar. I've played SWBF1 on this laptop for 3 years total, and the thing itself is 5. However when I play SWBF2, it always overheats on my laptop after 1-2 hours of gameplay. Even when I was playing Minecraft Classic for a bit on here, it still overheated after 90 mins or so. I assumed it was since my laptop was so used to running this game, but if there's some way to solve the issue, please tell me.

As I stated above, mine is a HP Pavillion DV3Z. It is not a Gateway.
how are you running classic? Like through the web or what?
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 06, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: Ltin on March 06, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
how are you running classic? Like through the web or what?

On the website, yes. I'm guessing since it's processing a game while using wifi would be an issue that would cause that.

I also tried decreasing the video settings (like literally, I had them super low). It works alright I guess, but after 2-3 hours it just overheats and quits.

Also, we got the thing on a low price (we bought it as it was a later model, hence the 2 year gap between the model itself and me playing on it).  As far as a laptop though, any ideas for a good one? I'm not exactly a guy with tons of money to spend (we paid $500 CDN for this one), but just some laptop in the range of $200-$500 would be nice. Also, I like my laptops compact (it's a 13-inch we have).
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Shazam on March 08, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
This isn't really a solution to your problem, but I have a way for you to (maybe) prolong the time your laptop can run before overheating.

I may sound like your parent here, but I would seriously consider taking breaks every other game or two.  I noticed that the reason my laptop overheated all the time was because when I play SWBF, most of my hand is on the laptop surface.  I'm no computer expert, but I've noticed from experience that when your hand is on the laptop for a long amount of time it seems to make your laptop heat-up in that specific area of your computer.

So, try taking a 10-15 minute break from the computer every 45 minutes or so.  It's also a lot better for your eyes when they aren't constantly staring at a computer screen. ;)

Good luck, btw. :)
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 08, 2013, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: Agent Z on March 08, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
This isn't really a solution to your problem, but I have a way for you to (maybe) prolong the time your laptop can run before overheating.

I may sound like your parent here, but I would seriously consider taking breaks every other game or two.  I noticed that the reason my laptop overheated all the time was because when I play SWBF, most of my hand is on the laptop surface.  I'm no computer expert, but I've noticed from experience that when your hand is on the laptop for a long amount of time it seems to make your laptop heat-up in that specific area of your computer.

So, try taking a 10-15 minute break from the computer every 45 minutes or so.  It's also a lot better for your eyes when they aren't constantly staring at a computer screen. ;)

Good luck, btw. :)

I've done the little break from the game every few mins, though just cause my hand is on the laptop alot, doesn't mean it overheats that fast. I've noticed that happens after 10-20 mins from playing. It feels warm, but it's extremely hot when it overheats. I wouldn't even know how hot it gets at overheat.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: aeria. on March 08, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 06, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
On the website, yes. I'm guessing since it's processing a game while using wifi would be an issue that would cause that.

I also tried decreasing the video settings (like literally, I had them super low). It works alright I guess, but after 2-3 hours it just overheats and quits.

Also, we got the thing on a low price (we bought it as it was a later model, hence the 2 year gap between the model itself and me playing on it).  As far as a laptop though, any ideas for a good one? I'm not exactly a guy with tons of money to spend (we paid $500 CDN for this one), but just some laptop in the range of $200-$500 would be nice. Also, I like my laptops compact (it's a 13-inch we have).

2-3 hours sounds better than 1-2 :)

You could try messing around with SpeedFan. I don't know if it works on laptops but it works great on desktops. You can configure the fans to go on full blast, hopefully allowing games to run for a little bit longer. If SpeedFan doesn't work, see if the bios has an option to control the CPU Fan.

I find it unusual for a 2009 laptop to be overheating over low-end games such as SWBF... with a cooling pad. You may potentially have a faulty unit. Or maybe it's an AMD thing. :P
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 08, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
Quote from: aeria. on March 08, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
2-3 hours sounds better than 1-2 :)

You could try messing around with SpeedFan. I don't know if it works on laptops but it works great on desktops. You can configure the fans to go on full blast, hopefully allowing games to run for a little bit longer. If SpeedFan doesn't work, see if the bios has an option to control the CPU Fan.

I find it unusual for a 2009 laptop to be overheating over low-end games such as SWBF... with a cooling pad. You may potentially have a faulty unit. Or maybe it's an AMD thing. :P

As far as I know, there's no way to control the fans, they do it themselves. When it overheats, you can feel the fans working under your palms, as well as hear the high-pitch screaming.

I'm going to say it would be a faulty unit, as I've heard HP makes terrible laptops. Wish I'd known that beforehand...  :td:

It might be the AMD though, I'm unsure on that. I've played MC Classic over the internet (via site), and I'd think the graphics on MC would be lower than SWBF2 by a longshot. Then again, I'd have no idea.

My bets are: it's either a faulty 5-yr old laptop from HP, or the AMD on this thing is goin'.

OR

Would dust in the cooling pad be possible for overheat? I know I once cleaned the dust off the thing, and it ran longer infact, nearly 4 hours. Haven't cleaned it since the summertime I believe.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Shazam on March 08, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
(Sorry, somewhat off-topic question) If you have more mods installed in your SWBF (or SWBF2) directory would it cause your computer to 'work harder' and possibly overheat and/or lag the game?  I have soooo many random files in my game that the .exe doesn't even read. I just keep them there because I'm too lazy to put them anywhere else. I have at least a couple dozen random side.lvl files in my SIDE directory that the game doesn't need. Would that cause any trouble for your PC and/or the game itself?
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: Gold Man on March 08, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
Quote from: Agent Z on March 08, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
(Sorry, somewhat off-topic question) If you have more mods installed in your SWBF (or SWBF2) directory would it cause your computer to 'work harder' and possibly overheat and/or lag the game?  I have soooo many random files in my game that the .exe doesn't even read. I just keep them there because I'm too lazy to put them anywhere else. I have at least a couple dozen random side.lvl files in my SIDE directory that the game doesn't need. Would that cause any trouble for your PC and/or the game itself?

I don't know, as far as I'm concerned most of the mods I have are on SWBF1. I have like maybe 5 modmaps on SWBF2, and that's it. The rest is a series of about 25 modmaps for SWBF1, and 3 skins for the game, that's all there is. I have like a whole file of modmaps outside the game, but I don't see how a ton of modmap files in SWBF1 or skin mods on SWBF1 would have anything to do with overheat when I play SWBF2.
Title: Re: Laptop overheat from SWBF2
Post by: RepComm on March 09, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: Agent Z on March 08, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
(Sorry, somewhat off-topic question) If you have more mods installed in your SWBF (or SWBF2) directory would it cause your computer to 'work harder' and possibly overheat and/or lag the game?  I have soooo many random files in my game that the .exe doesn't even read. I just keep them there because I'm too lazy to put them anywhere else. I have at least a couple dozen random side.lvl files in my SIDE directory that the game doesn't need. Would that cause any trouble for your PC and/or the game itself?
I don't know if anyone else already answered this, I'm too lazy to flip through all of the posts...
But if the exe doesn't read them, and they aren't being used by any other processes of your computer, the only thing they do to your computer is take up space, the computer doesn't read all the files on your computer at once, only those that it needs to operate a specific program that you choose to open.
No, having mods in your directory, as long as it's not being use in-game, takes no processors to read it, not heating the computer up.
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