ELECTRONIC ARTS SELECTED FOR MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT FOR THE FUTURE OF STAR WARS GAMING
http://starwars.com/news/electronic-arts-selected-for-multi-year-agreement-for-the-future-of-star-wars-gaming.html (http://starwars.com/news/electronic-arts-selected-for-multi-year-agreement-for-the-future-of-star-wars-gaming.html)
who was talking about hateing EA? well here ya go
"but the games will be entirely original with all new stories and gameplay." what does this mean for "swbf3"?
DICE?
This might actually be good news with regards to Star Wars: Battlefront III because, after all, the original Battlefront was heavily inspired by, if not a complete copy of, Battlefield 1942.
I think that was me who said I hated EA. Out of all the video game producers, EA, really? I guess somebody should make an unofficial BF3, cause the EA version will be crap. Wait, didn't all the companies that tried to make BF3 die? :cheer:
Quote from: Josh on May 06, 2013, 01:23:10 PM
I think that was me who said I hated EA. Out of all the video game producers, EA, really? I guess somebody should make an unofficial BF3, cause the EA version will be crap. Wait, didn't all the companies that tried to make BF3 die? :cheer:
The announcement doesn't mention SWBF3. And, even if it did, EA is probably too big
from for one failed venture to kill them.
The importance of this announcement is to address some criticisms that had been leveled against Disney; namely, that is was focusing on mobile games while eschewing what have been referred to as being hardcore consumers of video games.
It's that, pure and simple. It does, however, lead to speculation about the potential development of SWBF3.
Aye, this news does lead to speculation if we will finally see SWBF3. I am glad though that we won't be stuck with mobile gaming however, since we have EA doing this, they should handle it alright. The last thing I need however is for the shooter games to be a clone of Battlefield rated M...
Worst case scenario... but somehow best case scenario at the same time.
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That would be cool to see BF III.
I'm pretty impressed that Disney didn't sit on the IP for awhile, and that they licensed Star Wars games to a publisher with the studios, the money, and the talent to produce great AAA games. The potential for a DICE SWBF3 with massive space/air battles is unbelievable.
Edit: Even though Bioware already made SW:TOR, and there probably won't be any more KOTOR games, I can't help but think there are a lot of other settings that Bioware could explore for RPG's.
Quote from: Josh on May 06, 2013, 01:23:10 PM
I think that was me who said I hated EA. Out of all the video game producers, EA, really? I guess somebody should make an unofficial BF3, cause the EA version will be crap. Wait, didn't all the companies that tried to make BF3 die? :cheer:
i think it might also be sleepkiller, he was ranting about ea in my sim city topic
i think this would be good if they make a swbf3. From what iv heard, bf3 is pretty good.
I think I have died a little inside. Say good bye to your hopes for modding on any future SW game and say hello to day one DLC, micro-transactions for the game you paid $60-$80 and requiring Origin to play. Also don't expect the gameplay from a SWBFIII made by EA to be anything like SWBF or SWBFII. Expect the I see you first, I kill you first formula.
At least we might get a new SW RPG made by BioWare. Still, next to nothing good comes from this news.
Fun Fact: Did you know that Pandemic and BioWare were the same company before being acquired by EA?
Quote from: SleepKiller on May 06, 2013, 05:43:10 PM
I think I have died a little inside. Say good bye to your hopes for modding on any future SW game and say hello to day one DLC, micro-transactions for the game you paid $60-$80 and requiring Origin to play. Also don't expect the gameplay from a SWBFIII made by EA to be anything like SWBF or SWBFII. Expect the I see you first, I kill you first formula.
At least we might get a new SW RPG made by BioWare. Still, next to nothing good comes from this news.
Fun Fact: Did you know that Pandemic and BioWare were the same company before being acquired by EA?
Wow, couldn't have said it any better, well, ok maybe just a smidge. My turn to rant! :)
I'm going to compare this to the Papyrus-got-their-exclusive-rights-to-NASCAR-pulled-out-from-under-them-by- EA-and-went-out-of-buisiness=but-made-the-best-of-it-and-created-iRacing. EA has ruined pretty much everything lately, NASCAR games and NFS games to give some examples. SW will be no exeption. :( BUT I say we act like Papyrus did, only we need to mod SWBF1 into SWBF3... WHO IS WITH ME! :)
Doesn't ea make sport games?
they make EVERYTHING.
including a terrible work enviornment
Quote from: samsung on May 06, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Doesn't ea make sport games?
Yeah, like the NHL series, which may be more realistic, but to shoot they dang puck you practically have to do... Y+X+Right hat left+click down right hat release right hat hit x
Totally ruins the game
Didn't EA get named "worst company"?
Josh nice profile picture
Quote from: vansting on May 06, 2013, 06:09:58 PM
Didn't EA get named "worst company"?
Josh nice profile picture
If they didn't they should
Thanks
I'm not really too excited to hear this news, but I'm trying to stay optimistic for SWBF3. Even if SWBF3 sucks, there are always those few gamers who want to try the earlier versions of a game after playing a later version. Hopefully we can get some more active players on SWBF1. :)
Quote from: Josh on May 06, 2013, 06:07:32 PM
Yeah, like the NHL series, which may be more realistic, but to shoot they dang puck you practically have to do... Y+X+Right hat left+click down right hat release right hat hit x
Totally ruins the game
Yeah, I play FIFA on Xbox sometimes, and it's so complicated just to do simple tricks. It makes playing online really aggrivating because most of the people on there are really good and I can't even do the simple things. :dry:
Quote from: Shazam on May 06, 2013, 06:15:01 PM
I'm not really too excited to hear this news, but I'm trying to stay optimistic for SWBF3. Even if SWBF3 sucks, there are always those few gamers who want to try the earlier versions of a game after playing a later version. Hopefully we can get some more active players on SWBF1. :)
Yeah, I play FIFA on Xbox sometimes, and it's so complicated just to do simple tricks. It makes playing online really aggrivating because most of the people on there are really good and I can't even do the simple things. :dry:
I'm with ya Shazam. Im not too thrilled about this whole ordeal, but I am hoping that we can get SWBF3 out of this. And even if it does suck, it may get other players to see how the first 2 were. Indeed, hope for more people to come here and learn how to play SWBF1! :D
As for sports games, you can never make it realistic. If you want it realistic, you put first-person/third-person perspective for each player, and you can have the ability to swap between players (or you control who has the object). That, and if you want for more realism, you make it for Kinect or PSMove or Wii, some console system that has motion controls.
That's pretty much as real as you could possibly make a sports game, I don't see why nobody's thought of using this formula at all!
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on May 06, 2013, 06:22:59 PM
As for sports games, you can never make it realistic. If you want it realistic, you put first-person/third-person perspective for each player, and you can have the ability to swap between players (or you control who has the object). That, and if you want for more realism, you make it for Kinect or PSMove or Wii, some console system that has motion controls.
That's pretty much as real as you could possibly make a sports game, I don't see why nobody's thought of using this formula at all!
Umm... GM, they have. :bonk:
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftoyxplosion.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F06%2FKinect-Sports.jpg&hash=774b8012c9fc551938291465b9cd48a1f5ec6da8)[/spoiler]
My friend randomly showed this to me on FB, what luck! :D
https://www.facebook.com/ajax/messaging/attachment.php?attach_id=31acadf1859db83d6d3e8c2689a8b162&mid=mid.1367890062140%3A42da0ed19b8270a213&hash=AQB0VqZN0B4kM3of ok weird, but it works...
Quote from: Shazam on May 06, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Umm... GM, they have. :bonk:
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftoyxplosion.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F06%2FKinect-Sports.jpg&hash=774b8012c9fc551938291465b9cd48a1f5ec6da8)[/spoiler]
Ah, right. Still though, it's been nearly 3 years since Kinect's release, I would've expected the 2K series to move on to this motion control stuff and go with Kinect's formula. :P
On a side note, 700th post for me! :D
The last game I remember enjoying from Electronic Arts was The Bard's Tale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bard%27s_Tale_(1985_video_game)) on my old Commodore 128.
- edit (I had it on floppy, not cassette)
It looks like a lot of Minecraft in my future...
From Kotaku-
http://kotaku.com/ea-buying-star-wars-might-not-be-all-bad-493214555 (http://kotaku.com/ea-buying-star-wars-might-not-be-all-bad-493214555)
QuoteBut is it all bad? Not at all. In some ways it's the best outcome we could have hoped for in, given the realities of big business, a fairly awful (read: lesser of two evils) situation. Here's why.
Disney was never going to break this up. As the owners of Star Wars, Disney was never going to offer the rights off individually to various publishers on a per game basis. It was only ever going to sign a bulk deal like this, lock somebody in for the long haul, and given the popularity of Star Wars, only a handful of publishers would have been able to afford it. Maybe even two. The other being Activision. Would you have preferred that?
These are good teams. EA is a terrible publisher, and for the most part, I'll agree with people who mistrust them and straight up dislike them. But at the same time, the specific studios named to be working on Star Wars games today have some of the best track records in the business in spite of that. There could be a lot worse developers out there working on new Star Wars games than the companies behind the various Battlefield games and Dead Space. Indeed, put it that way and it almost seems like a best-case scenario. Almost.
Think about those studios. They have specialities. If DICE don't end up making some kind of Battlefront replacement, using their Battlefield experience, I'd be very surprised. Or, if not that, then at least a decent shooter from the Bad Company team. Ditto for Visceral; we've had loads of quality Star Wars games over the years, but a quality survival horror experience hasn't been one of them. The benefit of the deal being such a big one looks to me like Disney is seeking to cover multiple bases with multiple projects catering to different genres and markets. So we'll get a shooter, yes, but other games like RPGs and horror games as well, hopefully.
It's not like Star Wars games have been setting people's pants on fire lately. When was the last time you played a truly great Star Wars game? Force Unleashed was OK. Republic Commando was pretty good. Before that, well. It's been a very long time. How is EA getting the rights to these games any worse than the situation we had previously, where Lucasarts sat on the license and either farmed it out for shovelware or released shoddy sequels?
These aren't kids games. They're not Facebook games. Disney will be handling the lighter stuff on their own. This deal is specifically for "core" games, the kind you'll play on an Xbox, a PlayStation or PC. Since that's a section of the market Lucasarts mostly ignored over the last decade - and since it's likely the section of the market you belong to - that's good to hear.
Of course, I'm a hopeless optimist. I always hear about deals like this and hope for the best because, well, that's how my mother raised me. I'll grant you, though, that there are also potential pitfalls ahead.
DRM. Always-online. DLC. Rushed annual releases. Ceaseless microtransactions. In-game advertising. You know, the bad stuff people associate EA with. The company has surely learned valuable lessons from recent disasters surrounding SimCity and Medal of Honor, but you can never be sure. If we start seeing Lightsabers® powered by Energizer™, it's time to bail.
BioWare. Five years ago, news BioWare were working on a new Star Wars game would have made fans go bananas. But the BioWare of 2013 isn't the BioWare of Knights of the Old Republic. The company is spread - perhaps too thinly - over multiple teams, all of which have had a few black marks against their name lately, from Mass Effect 3's ending to Dragon Age 2's step backwards to Old Republic's colossal waste of resources. That makes going bananas a less immediate inclination.
Movies. It's easy to get carried away and start hoping for strong new takes on the Star Wars universe, or true continuations of series like KOTOR, but at the same time, there are new Star Wars movies coming. Lots of them. For every decent/good/awesome game we get, we're just as likely to get a movie tie-in.
Call me naive, call me a hopeless optimist, but as someone who's played a ton of Battlefield and Dead Space over the last few years, and who has yearned for someone to stand up and start making serious Star Wars games again in the absence of any real drive or ambition from Lucasarts, I'm quietly pleased - if not ecstatic - with today's news.
I dislike a lot of EAs business practices (I know I'm a hypocrite because I play SWTOR) but they do have some talented developers so hopefully we can have some good games. At least Disney has licenced out the games to a console/pc based publisher.
After thinking it through and discussing it some more. I have decided to adopt the optimistic view.
Also after reading the official statement http://www.ea.com/news/ea-and-disney-team-up-on-new-star-wars-games?intcmp=EACom_EADisneyagreement_latest_0513 (http://www.ea.com/news/ea-and-disney-team-up-on-new-star-wars-games?intcmp=EACom_EADisneyagreement_latest_0513). I noticed these things,
A. They do have the rights to mobile games as well.
B. At the end of it they asked people to send in what ideas they wanted. Anyone care to take a guess at what people are asking for?
I think WE should make a big list of what SWBF3 should be, no?
Quote from: Josh on May 07, 2013, 06:51:58 AM
I think WE should make a big list of what SWBF3 should be, no?
There have been these kinds of lists for SWBF3 ever since SWBF1 came out. ;)
At this point, a product that is actually available for sale is the only thing I am interested in, and then again, maybe not all that much interested in at this point :whip3:
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on May 07, 2013, 03:35:08 AM
I dislike a lot of EAs business practices (I know I'm a hypocrite because I play SWTOR) but they do have some talented developers so hopefully we can have some good games. At least Disney has licenced out the games to a console/pc based publisher.
Honestly, like kotaku said, they can't be any worse than Lucasarts. Lucasarts pulled the rushed deadline crap with KOTOR 2 just like EA has.
Also, I don't know if Visceral is going to do a survival horror game, but they do make games with amazing and grim environments, which leads me to believe they might try a 1313 type of project, showing the grim underbelly of the star wars universe. That could be cool.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on May 06, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
Ah, right. Still though, it's been nearly 3 years since Kinect's release, I would've expected the 2K series to move on to this motion control stuff and go with Kinect's formula. :P
On a side note, 700th post for me! :D
Again, Seriously? :-P
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I kinda liked the 2K serious, but it would be nice to see them advance in tech =0
And at this point, I'm just glad SW games are still being made. . .
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/04/18/america-has-voted-3-of-the-worst-companies-in-exis.aspx
Hopefully we don't have to pay for online.
Quote from: vansting on May 07, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/04/18/america-has-voted-3-of-the-worst-companies-in-exis.aspx
Hopefully we don't have to pay for online.
No surprise there
Quote from: SleepKiller on May 07, 2013, 06:43:55 AM
B. At the end of it they asked people to send in what ideas they wanted. Anyone care to take a guess at what people are asking for?
Star Wars Kinect 2?
Quote from: UNIT 33 on May 07, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Star Wars Kinect 2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-eId8rgyc
Quote from: UNIT 33 on May 07, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Star Wars Kinect 2?
that would be terrible, don't haunt me :(
I know it's the biggest piece of schlock to come out of Star Wars, but remember most gamers are casual and are looking for a quick fix of entertainment.
They don't care about the finer things...
Thats not my problem, I just feel like a moron reaching out and gobbling rebel soldiers in best buy (or anywhere)
Quote from: Buckler on May 07, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-eId8rgyc
oh god stop the torture :td:
I am optimistic about this news. I mean, think about it, the last good multi-platform Star Wars game was TFU, even then some people didn't like that! And EA seems to produce great games. The way I see it, as long as it feels like Star Wars and the gameplay/story (if there is a story) need to be good. The rest will follow. When Pandemic made SWBFI I don't think they were expecting a community to grow and thrive for almost 10 years.
Just make good Star Wars games. Listen to the fans. Star Wars fans are pretty clear on what they like to see in games.
If they were to ever make another Star Wars shooter I would buy it instantly if it included all previous SWBFI/SWBFII maps. I would buy it just for that. Could someone suggest that on that suggestion list?
"Include previous Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2 maps in the next Star Wars shooter"
Thanks! :cheers:
Quote from: Buckler on May 07, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-eId8rgyc
Everything about that hurt my feelings.
Catchy song, but I must say, I certainly hope that Star Wars doesn't get played like a trombone, much like the more recent Need For Speed games have.
Quote from: Buckler on May 07, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-eId8rgyc
Hahahahahaha!! That was the most disturbing/hilarious thing I've ever seen..
I think I saw somebody say we won't be able to mod SWBF anymore, not true, but we may not be able to host the files. I have heard from a community from another series that got acquired from EA, that they said they would sue anyone who hosted files, this was from one place I heard, it may not be fact, but it could be. Another reason to back this up is that I don't see mods for the game on any file hosting sites, I'm sure they would't want to risk getting sued over a file or two. But EA hasn't sued anyone for hosting files, yet, so if they do the same to the Star Wars Battlefront series, i'm sure we wouldn't get in any trouble, at least I think.
Quote from: Josh on May 08, 2013, 10:23:17 AM
I think I saw somebody say we won't be able to mod SWBF anymore, not true, but we may not be able to host the files. I have heard from a community from another series that got acquired from EA, that they said they would sue anyone who hosted files, this was from one place I heard, it may not be fact, but it could be. Another reason to back this up is that I don't see mods for the game on any file hosting sites, I'm sure they would't want to risk getting sued over a file or two. But EA hasn't sued anyone for hosting files, yet, so if they do the same to the Star Wars Battlefront series, i'm sure we wouldn't get in any trouble, at least I think.
Well if it is true, feel free to remove everything I've ever uploaded here, I do not want to see this place go down!
Quote from: Josh on May 08, 2013, 10:23:17 AM
I think I saw somebody say we won't be able to mod SWBF anymore, not true, but we may not be able to host the files. I have heard from a community from another series that got acquired from EA, that they said they would sue anyone who hosted files, this was from one place I heard, it may not be fact, but it could be. Another reason to back this up is that I don't see mods for the game on any file hosting sites, I'm sure they would't want to risk getting sued over a file or two. But EA hasn't sued anyone for hosting files, yet, so if they do the same to the Star Wars Battlefront series, i'm sure we wouldn't get in any trouble, at least I think.
Where did u hear such strange rumors?
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on May 08, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
Well if it is true, feel free to remove everything I've ever uploaded here, I do not want to see this place go down!
I don't think you need to, even if the threatened, which I doubt they would, the chances of them actually doing that is slim.
Quote from: Phobos on May 08, 2013, 12:00:14 PM
Where did u hear such strange rumors?
What, that I saw that somebody said that we won't be able to mod SWBF anymore, or that a law may be possible. if it's a question on where I heard about EA suing modders, I heard the owner apologizing on a download site that they would no longer host mods because of a threat EA made, I don't remember the site or much about what he said, I just posted what I said so Bucky or anyone else would be caught off-guard.
If any contention about modding or hosting SWBF files comes up, then folks would certainly contact JediKiller and or Buckler. They would then notify us. Until that happens I wouldn't worry about rumors of EA action against modding communities.
And besides that, EA isn't the owner of SWBF, so they would have nothing to be contentious of. That's still a LucasArts thing, and now Disney as well.
Quote from: tirpider on May 08, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
And besides that, EA isn't the owner of SWBF, so they would have nothing to be contentious of. That's still a LucasArts thing, and now Disney as well.
Exactly. I can only see something like this happening if EA "buys out" LucasArts. Other than that, we don't have to worry. :cheers:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on May 08, 2013, 04:06:01 PM
Exactly. I can only see something like this happening if EA "buys out" LucasArts. Other than that, we don't have to worry. :cheers:
ah, good to hear. Still, if EA is "The worst company"...
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome. I'm convinced now after playing it for, er how many hours straight? Er, that isn't important. The important thing is DICE know how to make an epic game. As long as EA doesn't throw too many micro-transactions in the mix I can live with needing Origin(I already have it for Mass Effect 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 so shrug.) and always needing to be online.
Did I mention Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome? And cheap to.
Just making sure I mentioned Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome. Oh I did? Three times you say? Well it should drive home the point that DICE know how to make a good game.
Quote from: SleepKiller on May 09, 2013, 03:24:30 AM
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome. I'm convinced now after playing it for, er how many hours straight? Er, that isn't important. The important thing is DICE know how to make an epic game. As long as EA doesn't throw too many micro-transactions in the mix I can live with needing Origin(I already have it for Mass Effect 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 so shrug.) and always needing to be online.
Did I mention Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome? And cheap to.
Just making sure I mentioned Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is awesome. Oh I did? Three times you say? Well it should drive home the point that DICE know how to make a good game.
Who are you, and what have you done with the real SK! :o
I'm kidding, though I never thought I'd see you this positive over an EA game.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is so awesome, how could I be negative? The squad system is brilliant! It's all just so well done. This has me with high hopes for whatever DICE put out. (Plus Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is before the super greedy EA era.)
I do love BioWare's games as well, I recently finished playing through Mass Effect 2 that thing is amazing. Although I am slightly scared about Mass Effect 3 since it is an Origin era game, but I'll pick it up and play through it at some point.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on May 09, 2013, 04:15:39 AM
Who are you, and what have you done with the real SK! :o
Battlefield 2: Bad Company is the PS2 Battlefield game thats rated T right? My little brother is trying to get that one...
Quote from: SleepKiller on May 09, 2013, 04:23:26 AM
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is so awesome, how could I be negative? The squad system is brilliant! It's all just so well done. This has me with high hopes for whatever DICE put out. (Plus Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is before the super greedy EA era.)
I do love BioWare's games as well, I recently finished playing through Mass Effect 2 that thing is amazing. Although I am slightly scared about Mass Effect 3 since it is an Origin era game, but I'll pick it up and play through it at some point.
Just download the Extended Cut DLC, and the ending for the game is somewhat decent. The rest of the game is an absolute masterpiece, except for a couple of things.
Even more relevant.
http://www.youtube.com/v/e-LE0ycgkBQ?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
I think this is a 50/50 situation. I could either be terrible or the most fantastic game ever created.
WOW great find.
It mocks comsumer more than company.
Consumers are too stupid (for the most part) to know what a good deal is, while the companys like EA see how stupid people are and take advantage.
I don't think it's real nice of them, but it is a good idea. They are getting off scott free and rich.
I don't put the onus of bad products and exploitative practices on the consumer.
Yes, it's a 'buyer beware' world, but that doesn't make sharp dealing ok. (They used to arrest folks for that.)
That's unfair of me to say, as I have no insight into their motives. But consumers are not the only party to blame for the low quality products they buy. Big marketing budgets and massive distribution saturate the landscape and marginalize competing products.
Does the buyer have a choice? Not always.
Really it's the fault of the modern consumerist culture, in which we are generally pressured into upgrading to the latest tech and complying with the crowd tastes.
Anyone who has the slightest trace of individualism is rejected and given a label...
But I digress. I have opinions.
My point is...
EA may not attempt the appease us hardcore Battlefrontians by giving us the unique shooter we all love.
Instead they may make the generic FPS we have come to expect from the industry as a quick passionless cash-grab.
But considering DICE is doing it there remains hope for an articulate genuine Battlefront experience.
All I want is for it to be a none gore filled game, and simple, I think that something we all love about BF
Quote from: Josh on May 10, 2013, 01:51:37 PM
All I want is for it to be a none gore filled game, and simple, I think that something we all love about BF
Agreed, no gore is good. And the option for third-person view. No gore, no swearing AI companions, and an option for first or third person view, and we pretty much have a bare bones SWBF.
Oh, and class selection, unless everyone feels like using customized loadouts and weapon drops. :P
i want gore
Quote from: ! [ 2 1 2 ] M a r t ! on May 10, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
i want gore
Well, you're in luck, there are a billion games with blood guts and brains spewing out there!
Personally, I despise guts and blood (Except for Earth: Desert Town, that was just the right mixture of awesome!)
I don't mind animations though, I don't have an issue with the thought of a virtual thing "dying".. It's more when you try to make it look so real as to make you forget that it's a game is what I don't like.
Swearing AI commands and such, isn't really bad, it's just childish...
EDIT: EW, I JUST TURNED GREEN. (No offense Mr.Noodles)
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on May 10, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Well, you're in luck, there are a billion games with blood guts and brains spewing out there!
Personally, I despise guts and blood (Except for Earth: Desert Town, that was just the right mixture of awesome!)
I don't mind animations though, I don't have an issue with the thought of a virtual thing "dying".. It's more when you try to make it look so real as to make you forget that it's a game is what I don't like.
Swearing AI commands and such, isn't really bad, it's just childish...
EDIT: EW, I JUST TURNED GREEN. (No offense Mr.Noodles)
Hahaha, 1000 posts for RC! :P
Agreed though, Desert Town was the right mixture of it all, however when games make it too realistic (BioShock and CoD are examples of this, as is Battlefield 3), it just messes with the mind I find. I've had friends who were perfectly fine before playing CoD, then as they played it, I just noticed a massive change about their personality. It's also why I avoid those games, not just because of the M rating in general, but because they can mess with the psyche I find.
The level of violence should match the extent to which it is in the films.
So that means no blood, but dismemberment is fine apparently.
Quote from: UNIT 33 on May 10, 2013, 04:56:23 PM
The level of violence should match the extent to which it is in the films.
So that means no blood, but dismemberment is fine apparently.
:rofl:
The max rating for any Star Wars game should be T for teen. Simply because the movies are good for all ages, and violence reaches a peek where if you're a Teen you'll be fine. This is one of the reasons I wasn't too excited for 1313, it was assumed that the game would be rated M. If it's M then they can't be using the Star Wars universe we know and love because Star Wars, is for all ages (this is arguable but you get what I mean). I think they would be hurting the franchise if they made a Star Wars game that was not suitable for at least a 13 year old. Besides, Disney isn't known to have any of that crap in their products.
That's just my views on the subject. :shrug:
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on May 10, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
Well, you're in luck, there are a billion games with blood guts and brains spewing out there!
Personally, I despise guts and blood (Except for Earth: Desert Town, that was just the right mixture of awesome!)
I don't mind animations though, I don't have an issue with the thought of a virtual thing "dying".. It's more when you try to make it look so real as to make you forget that it's a game is what I don't like.
Swearing AI commands and such, isn't really bad, it's just childish...
EDIT: EW, I JUST TURNED GREEN. (No offense Mr.Noodles)
lol.
And why can't DICE get that "just right" volume of blood?
Quote from: Kit Fisto on May 10, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
The max rating for any Star Wars game should be T for teen. Simply because the movies are good for all ages, and violence reaches a peek where if you're a Teen you'll be fine. This is one of the reasons I wasn't too excited for 1313, it was assumed that the game would be rated M. If it's M then they can't be using the Star Wars universe we know and love because Star Wars, is for all ages (this is arguable but you get what I mean). I think they would be hurting the franchise if they made a Star Wars game that was not suitable for at least a 13 year old. Besides, Disney isn't known to have any of that crap in their products.
That's just my views on the subject. :shrug:
I agree.
There is a comic story line, dealing with Darth Krayt and Luke's son (grandson? I forget..), anyway, the new Skywalker is a junkie of sorts and engages in some Sith lovin'. Nothing too terrible, but unnecessarily mature content for a SW story.
Evil can be thwarted by a misguided bad-boy just fine without dredging all the miserable adult themes into it. Stories like that are a dime a dozen and run rampant through other franchises. But the good stories don't HAVE to step down to such base trickery to keep it engaging.
I like to think SW is a mature enough property to justify spending a few extra bucks on a good group of storytellers instead of just handing it over to the TV sit-com folks. (Anyone remember the
Star Wars Holiday Special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz550T3QeAo)? )
Harrison Ford said it does not exist Tirpider... Do not question him.
I am heavily opposed to mature content. And I'll bet you anything companies do it to yield greater profit with minimal investment. And, sadly it seems to work.
With gore, well their is a balance. I hardly notice it in most games unless I go looking for it, because well it's a small detail that doesn't really matter. As long as they stay with in reason I have no complaint against it. (Unless the person playing the game is under sixteen, in which case their parents need to re-consider what they are letting their child play.)
Just like existing profanity regulations.
A little is ok. if it moves the story forward, then it's a non-issue. Like Luke losing a hand, then noticing Vader had a prosthetic as well. It was part of the story.
But gratuitous use of gore/profanity.. the Jabba scene could have gone all Goodfellas or Scarface on us, and thank goodness it didn't.
EP3 got gratuitous when they burned Anakin down imo. A real horror show. The same transformation to the 'more machine than man' could have been explained as an esoteric corruption of the body by the Dark Side. Same for Sidious and no one would have needed to be thrown out a window, or barbecued. We already know the Force works like that from the way Yoda and Ben just faded away. But they went with the cheap thrill of b-grade horror.
Little things like that, already embedded in the main story line are what cause me to not be optimistic about these big companies touching Star Wars. The sublime nature of the Hero's Journey isn't enough for them. They have to 'punch it up' to increase their revenue. (Michael Bay and his explosions.) The demographic specific hooks have to be shoehorned in or it isn't right. (Compare Disney's Hercules with any book on Greek Mythology.) And the marketing... oh god the marketing....... If Disney has any plans to make little kiddie social games out of SW, there is no possible way they will allow anyone to make anything with it that will undermine their efforts to gather Facebook and iToy gold.
My last bit of ranting then I'm done... The sale of LucasFilm was a just reward for Mr. Lucas. He earned it. Disney being the one to buy it is the worst that I think could happen to it, and EA is just the right game licensing house (do they even program anything but sports titles anymore?) to mess up our end of it. The Disney and EA of today are well versed in over-hyping and under-producing. Both companies became base pablum when they became giant corporations and I feel they are going to turn SW into a cheap, happy meal toy.
I don't think Disney will let them add proper gore into it, and I wouldn't be surprised to see another re-re-release of the movies with the decapitations and barbecued anti-hero removed.
Ok.. done.. no more ranting, I promise... I'll even admit that I'll probably buy whatever slop they put in the trough anyway.
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Wife thinks I need to lighten up and let a new generation of fans tell their story to bring in yet another generation. She has a point, that none of it should be taken so seriously and all of it is supposed to be fun. When it stops being fun, then it stops being entertainment.
Well, nothing bad can come out of this, only good. Even if SWBF3 sucks, and I think it will, can only be good for SWBF1, and if BF3 sucks, what did WE lose. I'm curious to see what happens, but I think SWBF3 will be a gore filled game with more words on the ESRB rating then, um, something with a lot of words... Just my opinion
Quote from: Josh on May 11, 2013, 05:51:10 AM
Well, nothing bad can come out of this, only good. Even if SWBF3 sucks, and I think it will, can only be good for SWBF1, and if BF3 sucks, what did WE lose. I'm curious to see what happens, but I think SWBF3 will be a gore filled game with more words on the ESRB rating then, um, something with a lot of words... Just my opinion
With more words on the ESRB rating than that of which Grand Theft Auto V will have. (Trust me, those games list a load of stuff on their ratings.)
In the overall viewpoint of this massive change, I can't even remotely imagine Disney screwing something over as massive and international as Star Wars. I can see them trying to make it fit the PG selection, but I think the next episodes will have a VERY different feel than George Lucas' style. And it's not just because J.J. Abrams is doing these movies...
As far as the games go, it's really going to suck if I'm going to need a type of gaming account to play online. I never did the Gamespy stuff for either SWBF, but I just really don't like that whole effect of having to make an account to play a game. Even so, that might be a drawback for me, but what will probably get me is if there's little to no blood, gore, or cursing, and if there's a story line to go with the game. Other than that, try and actually make it feel like a SWBF sequel, and I'm hooked.
I have never heard of dice before, so wasn't overly excited. But have been enjoying the free download of battlefield 1942 (it was legally released by company) and just today realized it was a dice game. The excitement and anticipation grows.
Quote from: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on June 03, 2013, 04:56:06 PM
I have never heard of dice before, so wasn't overly excited. But have been enjoying the free download of battlefield 1942 (it was legally released by company) and just today realized it was a dice game. The excitement and anticipation grows.
Funny, I just got BF'42 a couple days ago, installed it yesterday, to bad you have the download and I have the disk :(
I really hope the game is a lot like BF Bad Company, love it's engine, exploding building are awesome. To bad the chances of me owning the game is slim, I won't be able to afford a PS4 or Xbox "one", and my PC doesn't run newer games. BTW I was "watching" a People Court episode and I was kinda ether way on who would win the case, but then she asked what company the guy worked for, he said EA, I instantly knew who should win the case after that, just feel like showing my utter hatred toward EA. :)