SWBFGamers

this forum is primarily based on making your computer faster based on techniques ive learned through experience also from techniques other skilled computer users have told me.

tip #1

this forum is primarily based on making your computer faster based on techniques ive learned through experience through some computing classes.

The advice im going to give today is going to help improve the gaming performance of your pc.  To do this i would strongly recommend updating your RAM. In fact, your CPU speed has little to do with the speed of your computer. While CPU cost is extremely high, RAM cost is relatively low compared with the improvements that would come from taking my advice. To find the correct parts for your computer there are several great places to get that information. instead of paying for geek squad. just go to your manufacturer's site or google your FULL computer name followed by technical specifications.

tip #2

If anyone is looking for a reliable word processing program, i recommend Microsoft Office (this is important because i rarely recommend anything from microsoft). However, if you cant afford to pay for this costly program, there is a free program available for both mac and pc called OpenOffice. This is basically a free download of the entire office suite. THIS IS ENTIRELY LEGAL. I am certain that this application doesn't give you any viruses whatsoever. Here is a link that will give you the free software.
macs- http://openoffice.idownload.org/?gclid=CPDgj4iNiZ4CFR0CswodRQcxpg
Windows- http://openoffice.cs.utah.edu/stable/2.4.3/OOo_2.4.3_Win32Intel_install_en-US.exe

Tip #3 any type of music, movie, or other certain types of media over 7 years old is deemed free by some sort of agency. i.e. Batman is entirely free because it was manufactured and put on the market over 7 years ago. However, if the company released a movie over 7 years ago and decides to remake or remaster the movie, then the movie can still be priced at whatever the producer wants as long as the remastered copy of the software was within the 7 year limit. The original Batman still remains the same even though they remade the movie.

Tip #4

today im going to be showing you how to enable root user on your mac. being able to log on as a root user is essential if you need to alter system files.
Open Directory Utility in its new home, which is /System/Library/CoreServices.
Unlock the application by clicking the padlock icon and entering your Administrator login.
Select Edit » Enable Root User.
Choose Edit » Change Root Password, and choose a password for the root user.
This is for mac only!

tip #5

for all you simpletons out there here is a tip from AG that i learned.
his is a VERY OLD "hack" that still works today. Basically, we are going to get admin access to your Mac without having any install disk (or any password to an admin account in the first place). This is good if you're too stupid to remember your password.
Step 1: Boot your computer. Before you see the Apple logo, hold Command(Apple)+S. This brings you to single user mode.
Step 2: Stop panicking. It's supposed to be a black screen with white text.
Step 3: Type in /sbin/mount -uw /
Press Enter
Step 4: Type in rm /var/db/.applesetupdone
Press Enter
Step 5: Type in reboot
Press Enter
That's it! Now you can view the intro movie and go through the whole setup process AGAIN. While doing so, you can create a brand new admin account. Just don't rename it exactly the same as the old one. Doing so will erase everything that account had(in theory).

Have Fun! Don't abuse it... tip from ag sorry all you windows users this cool tip is for mac users only. But i do have a couple command prompt comands for you.
color /?
dir /s
ipconfig /all
and for a buch of others just type help

Tip #6
today guys i'm sorry i didn't have time to look for a hack, however i have a statement. Google has pretty much a monopoly over internet and soon it will have a large portion of the mobile industry under its belt. My point im trying to make is that almost everything we do nowadays is related to google. Even their internet browser has been a hit (google chrome). With all these monopoly you can guarantee that almost everything internet and phone- related you do can be seen by google Inc. Why do you think they offered to give out google android free when they could have made millions, possibly billions of there operating system? Im not trying to sound paranoid but maybe you should think about this next time you decide to do a google search or the time when you are thinking of using google chrome. Im not commanding use something else, im just saying what is stopping google from just looking into whatever you are doing on the internet.  :o

"tip' #7
i realized that the last topic sparked the interest of many of you so i decided to write another one.
AT&T's monopoly over iPhone has been considered illegal by many of the major phone carriers. However, others claim that this is Apple's decision to sign a contract with whoever they want and on what ever terms that they want. We must listen to the merits to both sides of this argument seeing that no contract may interfere with the continuation of competitive pricing in an industry. I believe that it is Apple's right to make any contract they want with AT&T, but i believe that they would get many more subscribers on Verizon. Some consumers would like to see Apple stay exclusive to AT&T to make other mobile phone makes be innovative and make phone good enough to challenge iPhone. This has already started says some, with the recent release of GOOGLE ANDROID."droid phone" paired with google android has signed an exclusive agreement with Verizon. (Note how both iPhone and Droid Phone both seem to have comparable agreement deals) Sprint has been pretty much left in the dust seeing as no one sign an exclusive deal with them. (then again no really cares about sprint) How long wil it take for other phone networks to start suing Verizon like they did Apple? Should Apple be able to keep their deal with AT&T? ARE ALIENS REAL???? please give me your opinions

debate #1

Should unregulated distribution of copyrighted works over Internet be allowed?

I believe that the people that created the "file"  should be able to decide if they think it is ok to distribute it for free. However, the other two sides of this debate are: "Once you buy the file it should be yours to do whatever you want with it" and "If a file costs money then every person should have to buy the file, due to if you dont charge for the files then sales for the record companies would drop dramatically".  My argument is that if you download a file freely from the internet then you are pretty much stealing the money that the artist deserves.  he is trying to make honest royalties in this competitive market and you are being counterproductive when you illegally download.

tip #8

Today im going to be talking about different backup options. RAID is basically a backup system for your computer. For example, if you have 2 hard drives and you decide to download a file off iTunes, you hard drive #1 automatically mirror itself onto hard drive 2. Causign both hard drives to have that certain file. I personally wouldn't recommend this configuration to you guys (you don't have anything important enough). :P
If you are lucky enough to have 2 hard drives i would recommend you use both of them separately. Also, another good idea is to use wireless backup. Im a big fan of Time Machine created by apple. Wireless backups allow you to backup all your data  without needing to adjust you daily schedule. This is because the computer will run on a schedule, which means that the hard drive will upload all the data off your computer at predetermined points of time. Also if you dont have the money to get a second hard drive there is always internet storage. I am a big fan of dropbox. You don't need to do anything, just move the files you want to the dropbox folder on your computer and it will automatically sync them. You get 2Gb for free. Just enough to get my important files safe. (swbf customs :P)

cool, i hope to follow this and learn.

Open Office > Microsoft Office anytime.

Quote from: ag on November 14, 2009, 03:22:25 PM
Open Office > Microsoft Office anytime.

um i dont know about that ag, but it is free so that is a excellent feature.

As far as my testing goes, Open Office was more productive for me compared to MS Office. Not only that but you don't pay a thing for it. :D

you ask what is the best operating system? i see the list and will vote on the one i know. i dont think even if i had enough money i would buy a MAC OS X. i kind of rather build a pc like i want.

Quote from: keenmike on November 14, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
you ask what is the best operating system? i see the list and will vote on the one i know. i dont think even if i had enough money i would buy a MAC OS X. i kind of rather build a pc like i want.

MAC OS X is actually cheaper than windows. OSX runs at around 30$ upgrade and windows runs at around a 110$ upgrade.

You can actually get Windows for about that price if you play your cards right. Also, with a Mac, you're paying a lot more for the actual system as well.

It balances out in the end.

Russell, Jedikiller, you guys have good points, thank you.

ye you guys have both good points, but i still cant get it how russell knows that much about it o_O i mean,,,he's only like 15 (mozart also was 10 0r something xD we got a new genious)

Quote from: Russell on November 12, 2009, 04:21:11 PM
for all you simpletons out there here is a tip from AG that i learned.
his is a VERY OLD "hack" that still works today. Basically, we are going to get admin access to your Mac without having any install disk (or any password to an admin account in the first place). This is good if you're too stupid to remember your password.
Step 1: Boot your computer. Before you see the Apple logo, hold Command(Apple)+S. This brings you to single user mode.
Step 2: Stop panicking. It's supposed to be a black screen with white text.
Step 3: Type in /sbin/mount -uw /
Press Enter
Step 4: Type in rm /var/db/.applesetupdone
Press Enter
Step 5: Type in reboot
Press Enter
That's it! Now you can view the intro movie and go through the whole setup process AGAIN. While doing so, you can create a brand new admin account. Just don't rename it exactly the same as the old one. Doing so will erase everything that account had(in theory).

Have Fun! Don't abuse it...

I did that months back in an attempt to get rid of parental controls and it failed to work for me. I was running Leopard, can't remember what version.

Quote from: Mac on November 16, 2009, 03:54:18 PM
I did that months back in an attempt to get rid of parental controls and it failed to work for me. I was running Leopard, can't remember what version.

Yeah, but it seemed to work 2 days ago on a fairly new MB running Leopard. Quite odd.

Quote from: Master_Verik on November 16, 2009, 03:09:04 PM
ye you guys have both good points, but i still cant get it how russell knows that much about it o_O i mean,,,he's only like 15 (mozart also was 10 0r something xD we got a new genious)

These tips aren't new and doesn't make Russell a genius. They're just something we learn from google :P

Oh and one more thing, try separating the tips. The 3rd tip is actually 3 different ones. They are all over the place...

i try and pull the hacks i give you from a different people i know. If you guys want ill start labeling the one's i know. Both tip #1 and 2 were mine in its entirety. i pulled tip #3 from ag as you can see i sourced it. and to address you ag i try and keep the tips separated by day not tip but that is a good idea ill start using that. Also guys i will try and have a new tip, hack, software version, hardware etc. up every day. As it has been noted to me before i will run out of tips there is always constant innovation to be reviewed so im not worried. Please reply to my post with whether you like it or not, also tell me if you knew the info i gave before i posted it.

its ok with me how the information gets out. as for me i am past trying to figure out who is who. i say sharing is better no matter how it gets out to others.

It's better if you number all the tips anyways. Just give credit for every tip that you've obtained from another person.

BTW, my original post on the admin hack is somewhere deep in the forum.

Quote from: Russell on November 12, 2009, 04:21:11 PM
tip #1

this forum is primarily based on making your computer faster based on techniques ive learned through experience through some computing classes.

The advice im going to give today is going to help improve the gaming performance of your pc.  To do this i would strongly recommend updating your RAM. In fact, your CPU speed has little to do with the speed of your computer. While CPU cost is extremely high, RAM cost is relatively low compared with the improvements that would come from taking my advice. To find the correct parts for your computer there are several great places to get that information. instead of paying for geek squad. just go to your manufacturer's site or google your FULL computer name followed by technical specifications.

tip #2

If anyone is looking for a reliable word processing program, i recommend Microsoft Office (this is important because i rarely recommend anything from microsoft). However, if you cant afford to pay for this costly program, there is a free program available for both mac and pc called OpenOffice. This is basically a free download of the entire office suite. THIS IS ENTIRELY LEGAL. I am certain that this application doesn't give you any viruses whatsoever. Here is a link that will give you the free software.
macs- http://openoffice.idownload.org/?gclid=CPDgj4iNiZ4CFR0CswodRQcxpg
Windows- http://openoffice.cs.utah.edu/stable/2.4.3/OOo_2.4.3_Win32Intel_install_en-US.exe

Tip #3 any type of music, movie, or other certain types of media over 7 years old is deemed free by some sort of agency. i.e. Batman is entirely free because it was manufactured and put on the market over 7 years ago. However, if the company released a movie over 7 years ago and decides to remake or remaster the movie, then the movie can still be priced at whatever the producer wants as long as the remastered copy of the software was within the 7 year limit. The original Batman still remains the same even though they remade the movie.

Tip #4

today im going to be showing you how to enable root user on your mac. being able to log on as a root user is essential if you need to alter system files.
Open Directory Utility in its new home, which is /System/Library/CoreServices.
Unlock the application by clicking the padlock icon and entering your Administrator login.
Select Edit » Enable Root User.
Choose Edit » Change Root Password, and choose a password for the root user.
This is for mac only!

tip #5

for all you simpletons out there here is a tip from AG that i learned.
his is a VERY OLD "hack" that still works today. Basically, we are going to get admin access to your Mac without having any install disk (or any password to an admin account in the first place). This is good if you're too stupid to remember your password.
Step 1: Boot your computer. Before you see the Apple logo, hold Command(Apple)+S. This brings you to single user mode.
Step 2: Stop panicking. It's supposed to be a black screen with white text.
Step 3: Type in /sbin/mount -uw /
Press Enter
Step 4: Type in rm /var/db/.applesetupdone
Press Enter
Step 5: Type in reboot
Press Enter
That's it! Now you can view the intro movie and go through the whole setup process AGAIN. While doing so, you can create a brand new admin account. Just don't rename it exactly the same as the old one. Doing so will erase everything that account had(in theory).

Have Fun! Don't abuse it... tip from ag sorry all you windows users this cool tip is for mac users only. But i do have a couple command prompt comands for you.
color /?
dir /s
ipconfig /all
and for a buch of others just type help

Yeah that looks better :D

Quote from: ag on November 16, 2009, 07:45:52 PM
Yeah that looks better :D

lol oops ment for that to be the article XD

I would like to comment on that last tip. I have a few things for you to consider...

Have you ever considered that the federal government has taps on everything? Have you ever considered that no matter what you do, your ISP has records of every single site you've visited, every file you've ever downloaded, and every single keystroke you've sent to the Internet? Have you ever considered that every single place you go, cameras are watching you? Just look at the stoplights. Have you ever considered that the phone companies can, and probably do, keep records of every call and every person you've ever come into contact with over their networks? That mobile providers can track you wherever you go and can even listen in using the microphone with specialized software? 

In short, what I am saying is that there is no privacy. Not anymore. So you really don't need to worry about Google, of all people. Not when everything you do is known to the government, and every single phone company and Internet provider you have ever used. And everything you do on this site is visible to me, also.  :D

So yeah... I don't think Google is something to worry about. :P

So thats how Hc always knows who the mafia is.... :P

No, but I do. :)

In all reality though, I am much more fearful of the increasing role of multinational and otherwise giant corporations (such as Google) than I am of the federal government. The American government is far more dangerous as an enabler and potentiator of such corporations than it is as some sort of sinister machinating organization.

The solution, therefore, does not lie in individual acts of safety, but in large-scale protest to this sort of unfair domination. The people of America (who cannot ultimately be blamed) are the ones ceding their power to their leaders.

The true problem, then, is far more fundamental than this particular issue. It is a matter of the willingness of Americans to disenfranchise themselves from the decision-making process in American society.

Quote from: Joseph on November 17, 2009, 06:02:26 PM
In all reality though, I am much more fearful of the increasing role of multinational and otherwise giant corporations (such as Google) than I am of the federal government. The American government is far more dangerous as an enabler and potentiator of such corporations than it is as some sort of sinister machinating organization.

The solution, therefore, does not lie in individual acts of safety, but in large-scale protest to this sort of unfair domination. The people of America (who cannot ultimately be blamed) are the ones ceding their power to their leaders.

The true problem, then, is far more fundamental than this particular issue. It is a matter of the willingness of Americans to disenfranchise themselves from the decision-making process in American society.

In other words, you make the unjust assumption that all people are basically evil.

Why do I say this? Because google has no real reason to do any such thing. They are in a perfectly good place right now.

By making the assumption google would do such a thing you are assuming they are basically bad, which they aren't.

As humans, we are shaped by the world around us, and the world has given google no reason what so ever for them to want to harm people as a whole. Without intent, their is no threat (Read: Definition of threat according to merriam webster).

This is the downfall of all conspiracy theorists; they never give any reason as to why the free masons want control over America. For fact their are certainly less risky and better paying jobs.

And thats beside the fact; even if google had some reason to take over America or some crap, you can't blame for the government for it, just like you can't blame Hitler's mother for giving birth to him.

Quote from: Blade on November 17, 2009, 06:11:58 PM
In other words, you make the unjust assumption that all people are basically evil.

Why do I say this? Because google has no real reason to do any such thing. They are in a perfectly good place right now.

By making the assumption google would do such a thing you are assuming they are basically bad, which they aren't.

As humans, we are shaped by the world around us, and the world has given google no reason what so ever for them to want to harm people as a whole. Without intent, their is no threat (Read: Definition of threat according to merriam webster).

This is the downfall of all conspiracy theorists; they never give any reason as to why the free masons want control over America. For fact their are certainly less risky and better paying jobs.

And thats beside the fact; even if google had some reason to take over America or some crap, you can't blame for the government for it, just like you can't blame Hitler's mother for giving birth to him.

no google doesnt have a reason to track us, but the power that google has to be able to see almost everything is unsettling. that was the main point i was trying to get across. Im not saying that they would, im saying that the government needs to start enacting laws to keep companies like google from having such an extensive monopoly. With the sorts of features like location services(google maps), email(gmail), searches(search engine), and phone calling(google android) Google can easily place anyone who has an internet connection. Almost all of these have been used at one point by internet users (including you).

lol how does a "quick tips or hacks to make your pc/mac more efficient" thread become an argument thread? The last "tip" isn't really a tip or hack, don't strain yourself to post a new "tip" in this thread daily, Russell. The other tips, however, have been helpful.

Quote from: Master Zen on November 17, 2009, 06:48:04 PM
lol how does a "quick tips or hacks to make your pc/mac more efficient" thread become an argument thread? The last "tip" isn't really a tip or hack, don't strain yourself to post a new "tip" in this thread daily, Russell. The other tips, however, have been helpful.

well sorry Zen! i said i didnt have time to find something interesting, so i wrote about something that i was knowledgeable in.

Actually, Blade, I am not making that assumption. My belief in the basic good of human nature is the underpinning of my political views. I did say "The people of America (who cannot ultimately be blamed)". My point was that the people of America are the victims of a system that causes their apathy, not that the apathy is intrinsic.

Furthermore, your denigration of the thread by using the term "conspiracy theory" illustrates your refusal to ponder the matter seriously. I happen to like Google; I was using the topic as a springboard to demonstrate a few flaws in the American social system.

Joseph I'm not saying that I don't like google I'm jus saying that they hold power that only the government should have and that is the ability to track people.

You, when you USE google, give them that right.

Look at it this way, say you go to the same store for all your food ever, when you go to this store they keep record of what you got, they do this so they can restock, know their market, know what type of people they are providing for and so on so they can always have food ect.

Saying that you don't agree with that, what is tracking? your saying i shouldn't have the right to walk behind you and watch what you are doing?.....because that is tracking, in a less hidden manner but none the less its tracking.

So with that said, i want to see you try and run a business without tracking people, or heck doing a SINGLE day without tracking someone in some way.

Now if google wanted to overthrow the universe its in the right foot, but seeing that if google did overthrow the universe we would all be killed by google bots why does it matter?

No but really, google is just a big business, they have search engine down, what is next? they expand..... ads and after that phones/browsers ect. They are the same as ANY good business growing, thriving and expanding into new fields 10 years ago you would be hard pressed to find a cellphone in a grocery store, now its common practice. even gas stations have cheap ones why? because it fits into the target market, providing for its buyers in all respects, at SOME point google i'm sure will end up making a computer, likely with the help of a computer company but none the less.

i like google.

Quote from: Hardcore on November 17, 2009, 11:54:48 PM
You, when you USE google, give them that right.

Look at it this way, say you go to the same store for all your food ever, when you go to this store they keep record of what you got, they do this so they can restock, know their market, know what type of people they are providing for and so on so they can always have food ect.

Saying that you don't agree with that, what is tracking? your saying i shouldn't have the right to walk behind you and watch what you are doing?.....because that is tracking, in a less hidden manner but none the less its tracking.

So with that said, i want to see you try and run a business without tracking people, or heck doing a SINGLE day without tracking someone in some way.

Now if google wanted to overthrow the universe its in the right foot, but seeing that if google did overthrow the universe we would all be killed by google bots why does it matter?

No but really, google is just a big business, they have search engine down, what is next? they expand..... ads and after that phones/browsers ect. They are the same as ANY good business growing, thriving and expanding into new fields 10 years ago you would be hard pressed to find a cellphone in a grocery store, now its common practice. even gas stations have cheap ones why? because it fits into the target market, providing for its buyers in all respects, at SOME point google i'm sure will end up making a computer, likely with the help of a computer company but none the less.

sorry hardcore but the fact that google has such a monopoly over an industry is illegal. Thats why all the major phone carriers sued AT&T over have a monopoly over iPhone. One company having an monopoly over an industry isnt complimenting competitive pricing or the economy, thats why i think the government needs to step in. Those grocery stores have an actual reason to track purchases. However, google has the power to track locations, purchases, and possibly phone calls. The fact that they can track location is unsettling. I dont want some company to know my every move just because i wanna get directions for my vacation do you?

Nah its not illegal, and no they dont have the monopoly. Bing and Yahoo still compete.

EDIT: Also the idea that "OH MAN THEIR GUNNA COME AFTER ME" They can't.

A. No intent.

b. illegale for them to stalk you.

Come on guys, try and divert this back on topic. I don't want to have to close it.

Quote from: Blade on November 18, 2009, 12:24:37 PM
Nah its not illegal, and no they dont have the monopoly. Bing and Yahoo still compete.

EDIT: Also the idea that "OH MAN THEIR GUNNA COME AFTER ME" They can't.

A. No intent.

b. illegale for them to stalk you.

ok first of all the idea that bing and yahoo compete is a joke. they barely are a factor anymore. Also the fact that someone is illegal doesnt really stop anyone any more. The fact is that everyday some is doing something illegal and no one knows about it.

good reading (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=597.0)

Quote from: keenmike on November 18, 2009, 02:57:32 PM
good reading (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=597.0)

thanks i try :D

correctly taken. both the link and this topic and all its content are good reading.

Quote from: Russell on November 18, 2009, 01:21:06 PM
ok first of all the idea that bing and yahoo compete is a joke. they barely are a factor anymore.

Just compare the market share of macs vs. windowss (puts on anti-flame suit). I'm sure you still consider macs to be a competitor to windows. It's just that people don't go out proclaiming "I USE BING AS MY SEARCH ENGINE" so it's not as noticeable

Quote from: Radical_Pi on November 21, 2009, 11:41:29 AM
Just compare the market share of macs vs. windowss (puts on anti-flame suit). I'm sure you still consider macs to be a competitor to windows. It's just that people don't go out proclaiming "I USE BING AS MY SEARCH ENGINE" so it's not as noticeable

the only reason windows has such a large market share is because all the schools use Windows. Im sure that if you subtracted all the schools, corporations, and other organizations and focused on personal use, Mac would be nearly the same.

Uh, no. That's simply not true.

For one, Macs are used just as much in the educational world as PCs. Every single school I have ever attended has had Macs used in classes. Macs were actually used before Windows was even around in the educational systems. Most companies focused on design use Macs. Most technology companies use PCs.

Secondly, Macs are expensive. People don't want to buy something expensive for the exact same basic functionality of something else.

There is no reason for us to have a debate over this topic when there is absolutely nothing to debate over. Windows has a larger market share in almost every single industry or field than Macs do. That's all there is to it. It's a provable fact. Google has a larger market share in the search engine industry than any other. That doesn't mean the others don't exist, or aren't important, or aren't better. It just means that they aren't as popular.

I know that we all want to be rabid fanboys on this topic for some reason, because it really matters to the world which operating system we use. Nobody cares.

Although JK, if I am remembering correctly aren't you UK Russel? In which case pretty much every school uses Windows, bar a few of the independent and academy schools, which use Macs.

The main reason being that with a limited budget, schools can't afford Macs, they are just not as cost effective as PC's, as the state education system over here is not based on the quality, but rather doing everything as cheaply as possible. I myself have given up using the PC's at school for my artwork, choosing to use my own at home.

And I couldn't put this any better than JK has:

Quote from: JedikillerThere is no reason for us to have a debate over this topic when there is absolutely nothing to debate over. Windows has a larger market share in almost every single industry or field than Macs do. That's all there is to it. It's a provable fact. Google has a larger market share in the search engine industry than any other. That doesn't mean the others don't exist, or aren't important, or aren't better. It just means that they aren't as popular.

I know that we all want to be rabid fanboys on this topic for some reason, because it really matters to the world which operating system we use. Nobody cares.

no guys, im american. maybe it is just the high schools ive been to but they are incredibly "anti-mac" there isnt a singe Mac computer in the school. Neither was there in my middle or elementary school. Also, im my school all are computers are federally funded, so prices arent really an issue. My point is that yes Mac's are more expensive but you do save alot of money with things included with a mac like built in word processors and all that jazz. With windows there have been over 100,000 worldwide viruses while MAc have had a very small number. You know why? Cause no one bothers to make viruses for computers that own only a 7% market share. :P

Quote from: Jedikiller on November 21, 2009, 02:40:44 PM
Uh, no. That's simply not true.

For one, Macs are used just as much in the educational world as PCs. Every single school I have ever attended has had Macs used in classes. Macs were actually used before Windows was even around in the educational systems. Most companies focused on design use Macs. Most technology companies use PCs.

Secondly, Macs are expensive. People don't want to buy something expensive for the exact same basic functionality of something else.

There is no reason for us to have a debate over this topic when there is absolutely nothing to debate over. Windows has a larger market share in almost every single industry or field than Macs do. That's all there is to it. It's a provable fact. Google has a larger market share in the search engine industry than any other. That doesn't mean the others don't exist, or aren't important, or aren't better. It just means that they aren't as popular.

I know that we all want to be rabid fanboys on this topic for some reason, because it really matters to the world which operating system we use. Nobody cares.

sorry jedikiller im going to have to stop you there. "Which OS is the best?" is one of the most debated questions in technology. So yes alot of people care

No, nobody really does. Fanboys are everywhere, and there are sure a lot of them on this forum.

Does it matter which OS you use? No. Not at all.

Quote from: Jedikiller on November 21, 2009, 07:51:04 PM
No, nobody really does. Fanboys are everywhere, and there are sure a lot of them on this forum.

Does it matter which OS you use? No. Not at all.

you are absolutely right jedi. your knowledge is irrefutable! i will never question your judgement ever again. So next time i think about address which OS i think is better  i will stop and think does anyone really care? Oh yea MAC OSX is winning. *cough cough Apple Rules* :P

Oh, because a poll on a forum that is primarily frequented by Mac users is of course not going to be influenced at all.

i like pc because there are alot of swbf1 players.

are you having a bad day jedikiller or something? Thank you for contributing keenmike.  Having lots of users is an advantage to having Windows. Lets say BSD is the best OS in the world (its not), well BSD is still crap because no one is there to play swbf. Thats one reason i think pc gamers dont wanna switch to mac.

Nah. Just sick and tired of rabid fanboys.

I think you missed the point Russel. What JK said about the poll is true. The poll is pretty much 100% biased. There is a much, much larger Mac contingent on the forum than there is of PC's. So obviously Mac OSX is gonna be ahead.

EDIT: I also believe it may be time to move onto a new debate, as this one is descending almost into flames.

and i a pc, reserver my passion so as to follow the rules of the forum better. its what works for me.

sure ill find something new, later tonight. I have a ggw match tonight