Battlefield 4 system requirements for the PC have been announced! How does this relate to Dice's new SWBF game? Well they are running the same engine so chances are Dice's SWBF will have the same or almost the same system requirements.
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Can you run the game?
The requirements won't be the same, mark my words. DICE is already moving away from the old hardware of the Xbox 360 and PS3 with the new Mirror's Edge. (And man does that game look impressive.)
If the PS3 and Xbox 360 (They could very well be their if EA feels like they need to stick with 7th generation to bring in a profit.) aren't there to bottleneck the new SWBF, the requirements will go up.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 02, 2013, 06:33:18 PM
Battlefield 4 system requirements for the PC have been announced! How does this relate to Dice's new SWBF game? Well they are running the same engine so chances are Dice's SWBF will have the same or almost the same system requirements.
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Can you run the game?
To-Do List (for me):
1.
GET A JOB NEXT SUMMER (to buy new computer/parts)
2. Buy new computer to replace crummy laptop
3a. (optional) Salvage old, crappy desktop and replace specific components
3b. BUY FRICKIN' SWBF/Get Steam/Buy Minecraft PC/Buy Guns of Icarus Online/Download Warsow/Rearrange PC Gaming restrictions
LOL. Its so far out of my league it's humorous.
I has da beta
And........ I know it's supposed to be awesome and everything but... seems a little ridiculous. Minimum requirements are good (if you haven't gotten off of XP yet, good luck...). Recommended is unbelievable. To get a desktop like that you would have to have a big piggy bank, and then some, but I guess that will eventually be the standard. One day we will be sitting around with 40 TB hard drives, 500 GB RAM, 350 GB Dedicated graphics, and Intel Lightspeed processors, and it still won't be fast enough. At least they still let some of us get away with Vista (Vista at home, 7 on laptop).
But we all know the hardcore gamers (and even many casual gamers) will get it... and this is where I start thinking about building my dream computer...
:dreamland:
I can :) UEF has already formed a squad =)
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 02, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
The requirements won't be the same, mark my words. DICE is already moving away from the old hardware of the Xbox 360 and PS3 with the new Mirror's Edge.
Well it was more of a "if you can't meet these requirements and you want the new SWBF game you better start thinking of upgrading!" kinda thing. ;)
Thank you for posting this, kit. :tu: I'm saving for a gaming computer, this will greatly help me decide which game to get. :happy:
I have the recommended requirements in CPU and Ram but the graphics memory needed is huge, I got my Nvidia 580 card at the beginning of last year and it was the best single card available now it's only half the recommended specs. :(
I suppose I could pick up a second card cheap now and run 2. Or maybe I should just empty my bank account and get a Titan card...
[spoiler]I'm not really going to waste that sort of money. :)[/spoiler]
Even if my computer did have all of the recommended specs (I have the 8gb and W7 Ultimate (I hate W8)), I wouldn't install it anyways. There is NO WAY I would sacrifice 30gb just for a game. And that's not even counting the obvious updates that will come out. Plus, if I tried to run the game on my laptop, it'd probably melt it :D
Quote from: Dark_Phantom on October 02, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
And........ I know it's supposed to be awesome and everything but... seems a little ridiculous. Minimum requirements are good (if you haven't gotten off of XP yet, good luck...). Recommended is unbelievable. To get a desktop like that you would have to have a big piggy bank, and then some, but I guess that will eventually be the standard. One day we will be sitting around with 40 TB hard drives, 500 GB RAM, 350 GB Dedicated graphics, and Intel Lightspeed processors, and it still won't be fast enough. At least they still let some of us get away with Vista (Vista at home, 7 on laptop).
But we all know the hardcore gamers (and even many casual gamers) will get it... and this is where I start thinking about building my dream computer...
:dreamland:
I'm pretty sure you can get a decent rig without spending an obscene price.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on October 03, 2013, 03:24:28 PM
I'm pretty sure you can get a decent rig without spending an obscene price.
Led recommended:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-H9-PHOENIX-i7-3770-3-4GHZ-16GB-2TB-BLU-RAY-600W-GT630-GAMING-DESKTOP-W7-PRO-/221292251430?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item33860bc926
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Phoenix-H9-1420T-i7-3770-3-4GHz-32GB-2TB-BluRay-WiFi-BT-3GB-Video-W8-/300963558449?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item4612d37431
I'm saving up for a Mac Mini (current gen) as my own computer and a nice monitor all for around $800. I'll probably upgrade the RAM etc. after the purchase.
Quote from: Buckler on October 03, 2013, 07:32:48 PM
Led recommended:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-H9-PHOENIX-i7-3770-3-4GHZ-16GB-2TB-BLU-RAY-600W-GT630-GAMING-DESKTOP-W7-PRO-/221292251430?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item33860bc926
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Phoenix-H9-1420T-i7-3770-3-4GHz-32GB-2TB-BluRay-WiFi-BT-3GB-Video-W8-/300963558449?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item4612d37431
Seems a bit overkill on the RAM for gaming.
There are several places online where you can pick your pc parts, and they build it for you. You get a much better price and product than the pre-built systems out there.
Here is a link to a AMD FX 6 core PC (part configuration), that fits the minimum requirements for BF4:
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Six_Core_Configurator/
Selecting the a minimum video card requirement (that they carried) was +25 (GTX 650), I de-selected 1TB HD for 500GB and that was -10. Price in the low $600. And you can always add more to your system if you have money to spend.
You have to remember, summer 2015 is a long time away, and if the requirements for SWBF3 are similar to BF4, the prices on graphics cards and processors, etc, will have gone down.
Also helpful, here is a GPU(graphics card) hierarchy list, to see where your current card ranks, etc;
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
Quote from: Buckler on October 03, 2013, 07:32:48 PM
Led recommended:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-H9-PHOENIX-i7-3770-3-4GHZ-16GB-2TB-BLU-RAY-600W-GT630-GAMING-DESKTOP-W7-PRO-/221292251430?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item33860bc926
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Phoenix-H9-1420T-i7-3770-3-4GHz-32GB-2TB-BluRay-WiFi-BT-3GB-Video-W8-/300963558449?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item4612d37431
SleepKiller Recommended
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/aventum-ii.asp (http://www.digitalstormonline.com/aventum-ii.asp) (The copper configuration, not those other wimpy ones.)
4srs - Unless you plan to max out all the settings you'll be able to get away with a cheap GPU at 2015. I'll personally probably end up getting some mid-range system.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on October 03, 2013, 08:20:19 PM
Seems a bit overkill on the RAM for gaming.
That was based on Kit's battlefield 4 requirements. Don't get me wrong, I don't drop a grand on a whim, but for what you get for $1000 for a refurb HP it should last you a while. (And every official refurb HP I have gotten looked brand new to me.)
Here is a related thread at Tom's Hardware. Users talk about how much FPS they are getting with their CPU/GPU in BF4 here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1825501/cpu-bf4.html
Ah SK, why do you want the "digital storm Aventum Mark 2" with the NVIDIA GTX "6 GB Titan" when you could have the "Cyberpower Black Mamba Fang 3" with two crossfire or SLI linked Titans and an equally stupid name (see http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Fang_III_-_Black_Mamba).
And also for half the price.
Sure, maybe it doesn't have cooling, but you have glaciers right ? Just open a window.....
But wait, does your country have enough electricity in its national grid to power one of these things ? :P
Btw, you've missed me yes ?
Look again Roland. That is a system with three Titan's and a hex core i7. With that kind of power I would want the high quality cooling Digital Storm offers. If not because I hate it when a computer runs too loud. Also Digital Storms offers Tesla cards as well. I'm a sucker for powerful computer hardware.
Hm, you may be right about the power... However if I did get one I suppose I could just power it by chucking one of my sisters' dogs onto a treadmill. Just stick a bit of food at the end and Bob isn't your uncle but you still have power.
So no Mac version eh. >:(
Bummer deal.
Macs are PC's now, ever since they adopted the x86 architecture and left powerpc processors behind. You could say however, "No Mac OS version". No reason why you can't run Windows on your Mac (as well as Mac OS and or Linux).
Many people even run Mac OS on non-Apple PC's.
That's true. I just can't afford two systems, and most of my software is Mac.
I like how they recommend Windows 8. I wonder what they were paid to do that. It says something about EA.
Quote from: hippox99 on November 25, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
I like how they recommend Windows 8. I wonder what they were paid to do that. It says something about EA.
Windows 8's internals are better than Windows 7 if you deny that you're kidding yourself. (Which could equal better performance and more FPS.) It's the interface that annoys me.
Windows 8 has DX 11.2. Do your research.
DICE didn't get paid by anyone.
No reason why Windows 7 shouldn't be able to do DX 11.2 ! It's a greedy act by Microsoft only designed to get people to buy Windows 8. And it works so well, doesn't it?
DirectX is stagnation, anyhow. Let's hope for an open source alternative to anything Microsoft that can become the new standard. Steam OS is a good step in the right direction.
And if you think that Windows 8's going to achieve a noticeable higher frame rate than Windows 7 then 'haha' is all I can say.
I said could not will.
As I already said Windows 8 is a better OS under the hood than 7. It may have changes that Direct X 11.2 benefits from. (Unlikely.) Or Microsoft simply didn't want to pay the money to develop for an older OS that is no longer making them money. (Very likely)
Put simply Microsoft doesn't care about PC gaming. There simply aren't enough. Windows is used by well over a 100 million people world wide. Only a small fraction of those people will be gamers. Compared to the tens of millions of Xbox gamers. Which one does it make more sense to invest in?
It's not a case of Microsoft wanting people to upgrade to Windows 8. It's a case of Microsoft not caring enough to invest the money in developing for Windows 7 as well. It simply doesn't make sense to spend money developing for an older OS that is no longer making you money to fund that development.
Also.
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And if you think that Windows 8's going to achieve a noticeable higher frame rate than Windows 7 then 'haha' is all I can say.
Tell me how well do you understand how a game works under the hood?
I agree with you that Microsoft do not care much about PC gaming. They're a big soulless company, as you say in other words. They have more interest in their console for gaming, and they don't want to compete with themselves. But they're fools, the PC will live on and hopefully it'll leave Microsoft behind in the dust someday together with stagnation. Why should we depend on such as Microsoft? Why feed the wolf that steals your cattle? Microsoft = monopoly, stagnation.
Windows 8 might be better under the hood, as you say, but is it enough to warrant buying a new OS to play BF4? That's insane.
BTW: Halo 3 exclusively to Windows 8? Such cheap tactics by M$. But we'll see if just a rumor. They did it with Halo 2 for Vista, remember.
It's perfectly possible to implement DX 11.2 in Windows 95. Is it plausible? No. Of course it can be implemented into Windows 7 but they're not going to support it forever.
My point is that assuming DICE was paid to suggest Windows 8 doesn't have much merit to it just because of "greediness".
Your example with comparing windows 95 to windows 7 is, well, very weak. Is there even any logic in it? Not a very good argument, I'm afraid.
If you don't think it's likely that EA was paid to recommend Windows 8 - but not also Windows 7 - and even making some small 'valid' -excuse- to use DX 11.2 in some insignificant way then you don't know how fake and cheap the gaming industry is.
But be a happy consumer. Ignorance is bliss.
I'll admit that was a silly example. But that's the point. There's little logic to it. Why would they put it in Windows 7, a product that came out in 2009? Why should they decrease the value of Windows 8?
But if I was Microsoft, whatever I want my company to make next, I want to be for my latest product, Windows 8. There's nothing "fake and cheap" about it. It's called business. That's something you learn in college. Microsoft wants there to be an incentive for people to transition over and not stay with Windows 7. As a consumer naturally I want to keep using Windows 7 but obviously that impacts sales of Windows 8. For developers, Windows 8 is already a more efficient OS. They're not going to backtrack to Windows 7 either.
DICE meanwhile is aware of DX11.2 and wishes to take advantage of what it has to offer. So what do they do? They recommend Windows 8.
What you might not learn in college, but rather experience for yourself, is how soulless and cynical business actually is. I know we're taught how business is 'good' and 'wonderful' and 'be a good consumer' but in reality business degrades society as much as it provides it with nourishment. I have no love for big businesses. Microsoft, EA, whatever. I rather see smaller, personal businesses and just more of them. And open source. And less copyright.
Imagine if anybody could make a battlefield game? A radical thought. But when ideas are not owned indefinitely, which is practically the case, and controlled obsessively, then great things ensures. We should fight such stagnation.
Public domain is a dying, but wonderful concept. We can thank big businesses and ourselves (we buy) for changing the laws and extending copyright.
What big businesses wants the most of all is for you to think as them. I refuse.
Instead of Microsoft using cheap tricks to make people buy their new products, maybe they should just make a superior product instead? But then they make a :censored: interface that's forced on you, no choice. We don't want you to have a choice, says Microsoft !
edit by buckler: we have a strict no cursing policy here, as we appeal to gamers across a broad age range
I completely agree, and I'm glad someone else thinks the same way I do :P
Of course this is usually where we get big "hush" signs so we don't have a big conspiracy thread or some giant flame thread like SWBF Radar discussions, lol.
Yeah, I'm the dragging topic off the course. Enough said form my side if I can prevent it on the matter. :)
Edit: Didn't mean to type a curse word out, bucker. That was uncivilized of me. I rather have typed 'insert bad word here' as I normally would do. I slipped.
You're completely missing the point I'm trying to tell you.
I'm trying to tell you that DX11.2 is the reason why DICE recommends Windows 8. I'm also telling you why Microsoft would make DX11.2 exclusive to Windows 8.
I'm not expressing my opinions on commercial vs open source software. To be frank, you're assuming that I'm saying we should all buy Windows 8 and support big businesses like Microsoft. Go re-read why I posted earlier. I NEVER said any of that. I am expressing ZERO opinions. In fact I'll make it clear: I prefer Windows 7 over Windows 8. Most of the software I use aside from the OS is open source. I even use OpenOffice for the word processing.
Back to my point: You're being a conspiracy theorist for thinking that Microsoft paid DICE. There's no factual evidence behind it and little pointers to inferring it either.
Quote from: hippox99 on November 26, 2013, 05:28:52 PM
Imagine if anybody could make a battlefield game? A radical thought. But when ideas are not owned indefinitely, which is practically the case, and controlled obsessively, then great things ensures. We should fight such stagnation.
Public domain is a dying, but wonderful concept. We can thank big businesses and ourselves (we buy) for changing the laws and extending copyright.
You say what if anyone could make a Battlefield game. How do you think SWBF came about? A guy at Pandemic had the idea that Battlefield + SW would equal awesome thus they pitched the idea to LucasArts who thought it was grand. They then made the game while putting there own spin on it. And ta-da SWBF.
Game mechanics can't be copyrighted. Stories, worlds, lore, characters, etc can. There is nothing stopping someone from making a Battlefield esque game. So long as they don't call it Battlefield and don't take content from Battlefield.
Quote from: aeria. on November 26, 2013, 05:59:08 PM
You're completely missing the point I'm trying to tell you.
I'm trying to tell you that DX11.2 is the reason why DICE recommends Windows 8. I'm also telling you why Microsoft would make DX11.2 exclusive to Windows 8.
I'm not expressing my opinions on commercial vs open source software. To be frank, you're assuming that I'm saying we should all buy Windows 8 and support big businesses like Microsoft. Go re-read why I posted earlier. I NEVER said any of that. I am expressing ZERO opinions. In fact I'll make it clear: I prefer Windows 7 over Windows 8. Most of the software I use aside from the OS is open source. I even use OpenOffice for the word processing.
Back to my point: You're being a conspiracy theorist for thinking that Microsoft paid DICE. There's no factual evidence behind it and little pointers to inferring it either.
Well, we'll never know the truth, but such marketing is standard practice, though. If I misread you then I apologize, but you can't blame me for reading between the lines. It is only text, not spoken words which can convey a deeper understanding. I poke and you defend yourself. Now we know better.
Quote from: SleepKiller on November 26, 2013, 06:05:53 PM
You say what if anyone could make a Battlefield game. How do you think SWBF came about? A guy at Pandemic had the idea that Battlefield + SW would equal awesome thus they pitched the idea to LucasArts who thought it was grand. They then made the game while putting there own spin on it. And ta-da SWBF.
Game mechanics can't be copyrighted. Stories, worlds, lore, characters, etc can. There is nothing stopping someone from making a Battlefield esque game. So long as they don't call it Battlefield and don't take content from Battlefield.
Well, I wasn't talking only about mechanics, but also about stories, worlds, lore, characters, etc. Copyright lasts too long and it is just extended when close to running out. That is what I call legalized theft of society.
That's something I can agree with. We won't know the truth.
Quote from: hippox99 on November 26, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Well, I wasn't talking only about mechanics, but also about stories, worlds, lore, characters, etc. The copyright on Star Wars, for example, would have partially expired by now if not for copyright extensions. At least in the EU. Talk about stealing from society.
The European Union Commission proposed on 16 July 2008 to extend the length of the copyright on recordings to 95 years from 50 years.[1] The European Parliament modified the term in the proposal to 70 years, and passed the modified version on 23 April 2009.[2] The Council of the European Union passed it on 12 September 2011.[3]
From Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_70-year_recording_copyright_extension (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_70-year_recording_copyright_extension)
Stealing from society? Society didn't make the Star Wars. They have zero rights to it in the first place. Copyright laws are in place to protect a creative, to give them a chance to make money off what they've made.
Now you used Star Wars as an example so I will as well. If copyright laws didn't exist how many people would've been deprived of a job by working on something that had to do with Star Wars at some point. How many people wouldn't have been able to feed their families? The answer is probably in the thousands. No small amount of people.
Not everything someone owns is physical. People have a right to there IP and what they want to do with it. If they want to declare it public domain they can. If they don't and want to hold onto the copyright for over hundred years that is there decision and they have a right to.
Just answer me one question. Have you ever made something (A video, short story, mod, simple game, etc) that you've been really pleased with?
That's just plain wrong. Nobody created themselves out of nothing. You think anybody had an original idea that wasn't influenced by external factors? Society isn't part of you? Such selfish thinking. Did George Lucas create himself? Is he God? Who created God then?
Also, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be ANY copyright, but certainly not like how it is today.
If copyright last too long then I dare say that it puts more people out of a job then it creates jobs for them. How long does copyright last in the USA. 95 years! (if I'm not wrong) That's a staggering number. And who's to say it cannot be extended or laws rewritten?
Edit: Also, you quoted me after my last edit. Not that it matters, but I didn't want to stir up the discussion more. That's why I edited that wiki stuff out.
I have a lot of bad traits (Who doesn't?) but thinking selfishly isn't one of them. Don't judge a person based off a single internet argument.
I have my opinions and have stated them. (I was going to state some more in this post but decided against it.) You have yours and have stated them. Any more off topic posts and I delete them. PM me if you really want to continue.
To be fair, I wasn't saying that about your whole person, but rather the statement of yours that you made. So don't judge me to be that shallow a person, too.
I draw the line here, too, and I wont reply to any more posts about this discussion in this thread.
Public data, and public knowledge are just that, public. If you don't want your masterpiece copied, then you should dig a hole and bury it. Nobody ever has the right to violence. This means all government and silly government laws have no right to exist.
However, as real people, we all realize that there are angry people with weapons that will harm us if we do not follow or at least appear to follow these silly little rules made by silly little old men in suits, that call themselves "government".
Someone stealing ideas, or taking credit for creativity that is not their own, is not a positive thing. But violence is much worse and nobody ever has or will ever have the right of violence.
As far as any newer games being tied to windows 8 only, I don't think directly or indirectly that any upcoming pc games will be tied to it, as this would limit any game publishers revenue, as so many people are still running Windows 7 and older operating systems. However it seems newer games that are ram hungry will naturally be limited to 64 bit operating systems to take advantage of more ram.