ICW3 Week 4

[Anyder]

Well how do I know what clan he is really in? At the time UEF was still in the tournament. It's interesting that he had the rank of co-leader of 212. He didn't have a merc. like he was supposed to, so how would I know?

Why are u crying on i didnt use the mercenary rank ?

[Shazam]

The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.

I've decided that YAK defended Harbour, but lost Russia.

On Harbour, Rage and I were at the main Republic CP towards the beginning of the match (via tank).  I got out of the tank and I almost had the CP captured, until a jet killed me. That one CP would have changed the outcome of the battle, in my opinion.  I also want to let YAK keep Harbour because we were outnumbered by the end of the match, but the rules aren't very clear on what happens when people lag out or crash.

I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

There really isn't any need for more arguement.  Everything that happened has been said and Oven can review our posts and decide who won what.

[SirPimped]

Why are u crying on i didnt use the mercenary rank ?

Because it means you are a 212 co-leader. But I'll shut up and let Oven decide.

[WusiBabyEater]

Well how do I know what clan he is really in? At the time UEF was still in the tournament. It's interesting that he had the rank of co-leader of 212. He didn't have a merc. like he was supposed to, so how would I know?

that's the admins job to know who is a merc

[{212}FrenchFryZ]

What about that little thing of someone switching sides and taking a tank?

[Black Water]

Because it means you are a 212 co-leader. But I'll shut up and let Oven decide.

He used co leader because who would really believe Anyder would turn into a co leader just like that.. in other words merc.

[WusiBabyEater]

The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.

I've decided that YAK defended Harbour, but lost Russia.

On Harbour, Rage and I were at the main Republic CP towards the beginning of the match (via tank).  I got out of the tank and I almost had the CP captured, until a jet killed me. That one CP would have changed the outcome of the battle, in my opinion.  I also want to let YAK keep Harbour because we were outnumbered by the end of the match, but the rules aren't very clear on what happens when people lag out or crash.

I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

There really isn't any need for more arguement.  Everything that happened has been said and Oven can review our posts and decide who won what.

YAK stole a tank which changed the outcome of the game

[evosoul]

You could have used logical thinking. If you look at the screenshot and think logical about it than it is more than obvios. and besides that. There is no rule which says which name a merc. needs to use. If there is it dont stand in in the "ICW3 Rules and General Information" thread. And that is the official rules thread or not?

[Anyder]

The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.

I've decided that YAK defended Harbour, but lost Russia.

On Harbour, Rage and I were at the main Republic CP towards the beginning of the match (via tank).  I got out of the tank and I almost had the CP captured, until a jet killed me. That one CP would have changed the outcome of the battle, in my opinion.  I also want to let YAK keep Harbour because we were outnumbered by the end of the match, but the rules aren't very clear on what happens when people lag out or crash.

I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

There really isn't any need for more arguement.  Everything that happened has been said and Oven can review our posts and decide who won what.

u say that cause ur clan lost both games
Its stupid that cause ur team lost, u wanna use the admin rights u have for trying to quit us the maps we have fairly won.

I see u only talk on the moment Nico took Jet, but what about what ur team did by quitting our tank ? Why dont u talk on  kishan's insults which i have pics of ?

Because it means you are a 212 co-leader. But I'll shut up and let Oven decide.

well, u can ALWAYS check sites and see if the person is coleader, member, orga, or whatever

[-=(212) Nixo=-]

Sha zam to clear something up for you : in the rules it states that an admin counts the players at the start of the match this wi be the starting turn out. If the attacking or defending side has a player that will join later i this is taken into consideration. If it a player leaves or laggs out it still stays the same, however unfortunate. Happened to me on mos which made it a 2vs3 which seemed unfair as we were the defending team but the countdown had ready been made therefore it was fine so we couldn't complain. I hope this is clear. Sorry for spelling errors

So from what I hear the sides were fair until players started crashing and lagging out. But this was already into the match so if that is the reason for not awarding 212 harbour maybe rethink?
Im not trying to be disrespectful.

[Gen.Hond{snp}]

The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.

I've decided that YAK defended Harbour, but lost Russia.

On Harbour, Rage and I were at the main Republic CP towards the beginning of the match (via tank).  I got out of the tank and I almost had the CP captured, until a jet killed me. That one CP would have changed the outcome of the battle, in my opinion.  I also want to let YAK keep Harbour because we were outnumbered by the end of the match, but the rules aren't very clear on what happens when people lag out or crash.

I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

There really isn't any need for more arguement.  Everything that happened has been said and Oven can review our posts and decide who won what.

Um you left out the part where your member switched sides to steal a tank back.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781585 this one shows the switched member.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781597 this one shows the YAK member in our base.
http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/128781598 This one shows them driving it back to their CP.

Yes we had a slight Jet problem IN THE BEGINNING (Nico). Not by the time the 2nd Tank came to our cp. As witness by Birdo(jamman) and me.

Gen.Hond{snp}: And If we had a problem with Mercs why did no ICW Admin address this? Why wasn't this talked about? No one complained until after the Fact. We did not cheat or use to many mercs. Any issue that you had should of been said in the beginning and not now. Its after the fact and we won fairly.  You don't complain about after you lose. Say something next time IN THE BEGINNING!

WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|:
Gen.Hond{snp}: Did you take the 2nd tank that yak left? And how did they die?
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: ya i took it
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: it was int he crevice
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: rage and someone else drove it there
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: they jumped out and died
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: the tank was about to die
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i hopped into it healed it a little
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: and then drove it to the repair droid
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i think they died
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: from jumping into the crevice
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: you know that crevice?
WUSIleader.Birdosrus|>*<|: i PERSONALLY took both the tanks

No jet killed them. And it was their fault for hoping out of the tank so we got it back.

[Kishan]

The following is my opinion as an admin and not the final say.
I believe that 1.0 defended Russia because YAK is made up of several different clans; PLA, FC, Alpha, DarkSith, and several clanless members.  The rules do not clearly state if multiclanning is allowed and, technically, YAK would be multiclanning as well.

well yak was made to have clanless members or people from clans with not enough members, 1.0 and 212 are participating as clans and had members from other clans who were not mercs which i think counts as multiclanning

[evosoul]

Yak was made ultimately for that purpose, you are right but how is it multiclanning if the player isnt in the tournament anymore? If he had 2 Clans who are in the tournament. As Example, If a player is an active member in 1.0 and an active member in 212 than you are correct. But if the player is in one clan who is in the tournament and in one who is not in the tournament. How can it be multiclanning in this tournament? 

[Shazam]

I did not personally see our member switch sides and take a tank, but I have seen proof now so believe there should either be a rematch, or 212 should have Harbour.

If you guys all think I'm so biased, find your own unbiased admin and see how that goes for you.  Just because I make a decision that benifits YAK and not your clan, you want to pull the biased admin card.  Do you see anyone from YAK siding with 212 on this?  No.  Do you see any 212 or 1.0 members siding with YAK?  No. 

How is it that I am so biased for siding with YAK on some things, and yet, when your members all side with what would benifit you more, it isn't biased?

[Anyder]

We wanna know what Scorp thinks