ICW3 Week 4

[Phobos]

Nope, you are wrong sha zam. UEF handed Bespin platforms to 1.0 despite an attack from 212

If a clan forfeits, their planets become native held, and attackers will face a team of "native". Anyone may show up as a native. However in this case the natives may be outnumbered by attackers. But there is a limit of 2 members per clan on the native side.

Please let me know if anything above is incomplete or unclear.

I think Oven should clarify exactly what will happen since some people seem confused about this rule.

[Anyder]

If clan wants to give their planets to another clan when they leave tourney, its their decition, not admins'...
If the clan leaves tourney and doesnt announce they wanna give maps to any clan, then they should be native maps.

[Luca]

[spoiler] [/spoiler]  Utini!!! 

[Black Water]

If the planets are ours, then I don't see the problem, since we fought for them, besides, who will be the natives...? 2 players per participating clan.

[Dark_Phantom]

I believe that, since there are 2 forfeits, one with multiple planets, that each want to give their planets to 1.0, that 1.0 should get their choice of half, and YAK can receive the other half.  There are only 2 teams left, so it would be pointless to have native planets imo.
But that's just me.  It's Oven's choice.

[SleepKiller]

What's the point of making rules for a tournament if you aren't going to stick to them?

http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=6931.0

Look at the end of the Winning section. Sha-Zam is correct, Oven has clearly already outlined what happens in event of this.

[Black Water]

And yet Oven gave 1.0 Platforms... so he can bend the rules for them, but not for us?   

[Phobos]

If clan wants to give their planets to another clan when they leave tourney, its their decition, not admins'...

Really where  does it say this in the ICW3 rules??

I think the planets enten and 212 have forfeited should either go to natives as the rules specify, or the planets should be randomly divided equally among 1.0 and YAK. Giving all planets to one clan which didn't even earn them in battle is a desperate attempt to circumvent the tournament structure which is supposed to be balanced.

[Anyder]

Its the clan's choise !
I left the clans to 1.0 cause i wanted and before i did, oven said: its ok if u wanna give your maps to any clan if u dont want them native. (after that he asked me if i was sure of quitting UEF as participant clan)

[{PLA}gdh92]

It's a shame that 212 and Enten are dropping out, we've had some good games. I know some people said you should have more players but I would rather small matches than none. I always enjoy playing 212 and Enten had some good players who I haven't had the chance to play before. Thanks everyone.

I don't know the exact rules and have no objection to a clan giving their planets to another in this case (although it does seem a bit unfair to give them all to one clan (that's not YAK ).
I probably shouldn't suggest this but if you're determined to give 1.0 your planets you could just deliberately lose a match with them.

[Oven]

I'm sorry that Enten and 212 are dropping out.

I'm also sorry for not obeying my own rule earlier in this tournament. Mygeeto should not have been awarded to 1.0, and therefore it (along with 212's ex-planets) will become native held. The rules are in fact crystal clear as to what happens in this situation, and they always have been, so I won't make any exceptions. Fortunately Mygeeto was never attacked while "held" by 1.0 so ultimately no one is slighted by this reversion.

[Black Water]

Could we be reinstated? If not I understand... nixo and I don't really agree at where we stand on whether 212 should drop out of the tournament or not, so we will work things out soon.

[Gen.Hond{snp}]

Maybe I should put in a say for this? Yeah sure I will. At least about the argument about planet dividing I see we all have a problem with.

I agree we should stick with the rules about the Native planets if 212 does, or did (I'm not sure what they are doing) that all their planets should become Native rule. How ever since we do have Enten dropping out with only 1 planet instead of 212 who has several. I think they should chose who it goes to. Maybe a time for a new rule Oven? If there ever so happens to be a ICW4 (which would be wonderful to have).

It would of course make a little more sense if a clan/team was in this tournament with only 1 planet left to at least to decide what they want to do with it. Whether to Defend, give it away, or keep on playing. As Oven did before with Bespin. (Mygeeto was awarded to us just as Enten was awarded a planet the first week) Which was given to us by UEF by choice.

As Phobos did mention though we didn't earn/fight for Mos Eisly (Enten's last planet) which is totally agreeable not to let Enten hand it over. Which does leave to a good counter argument if there are more then 1 planet being handed over. But 1 planet won't exactly make a huge difference compared to anything more then 1.

Maybe a good option for a new rule? It seemed fair before with UEF. Theres always room for improvements and I don't see why this would be an issue unless its more then 1 planet. It is also Enten's last wish in the ICW3 after all.

Oven I hope I put your brain to work on this one. I try my best

Enten will be missed.

[Oven]

Ten Numb: yes

Hond: will reply later

[Gen.Hond{snp}]

Attacking clan: 1.0
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Eddies Kastel
1.0's side: TBD (should have by tomorrow)
Day/time: Sunday, 2:00 PM EST

Attacking clan: 1.0
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Coruscant: Streets
1.0's side: Rebels GCW
Day/time: Sunday, 3:00 PM EST

Yes if you haven't realized 1.0 isn't touching Streets. The reason I put that there is because Oven hasn't said yes or no about Enten allowing us their last planet. If he decides that Entens only planet is to important to give away to us and makes it Native then we will have a different planet scheduled tomorrow for the same time (sides and era may differ).

Also if it does become a 1.0 planet we will accept Yaks attack on it and will defend it instead of Natives.

Until then I'll leave it up as Streets. So please don't argue until Oven says something. Thanks