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Title: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 06:03:36 AM
So recently I've ran out of skin ideas... I am specifically looking for none-Clone/Storm Trooper related stuff (unless it's a drastically large change).

If you know of any characters or costumes etc. from another video game series or other media that could be interesting (and sits within the realms of possibility) then go ahead and post your idea (preferably with images).
If you've got a completely original idea which is somewhat more than just a color swap of an existing skin then also post your idea in some amount of detail.

I would really appreciate any ideas you people have.

On completion of the skins I will upload it in a asset pack and later use it in the upcoming modifications I have going.

Ta!
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Kit Fisto on June 30, 2012, 06:09:13 AM
You should do some Jedi/Sith skins. Some can be from the EU as well! Like a Darth Plagueis! Or his master! He looks pretty cool to! He is also on this page: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 06:18:59 AM
They've already made a Jedi/Sith side mod. I've used it before, I don't know where it is or what it's called though.

Unit, you should make an empire legion mod. That is, if you know how. You might want SleepKillers help.  ;)
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 06:36:57 AM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on June 30, 2012, 06:18:59 AM
Unit, you should make an empire legion mod. That is, if you know how. You might want SleepKillers help.  ;)

Yes I am interested in doing such a thing, but not for this project.

Quote from: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 06:03:36 AM
I am specifically looking for none-Clone/Storm Trooper related stuff (unless it's a drastically large change).

Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 06:41:22 AM
Hmmmm... in that case, are you looking to reskin previously made models or make new models and skin them?

EDIT: I think you should make new rebel models. I can never seem to find the perfect rebel side that I like.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Led on June 30, 2012, 06:50:46 AM
CIS needs your attention  ;)

(especially now that sereja has taught us how to make them super shiney)
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 06:55:30 AM
(I think Buckler wants you to make super shiney cis side mod.)  ;)
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Darth Verik on June 30, 2012, 07:36:26 AM
Well, i love Skins, but i only use one because the rest is either a mod or because it looks dreadfull (or is for Clones).
Some ideas: A skin for the rebels which looks like the guys you see in the last episodes (without the mod behind it) so only skin)
I'll think of some more, when i finished this game of JK :P
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: Buckler on June 30, 2012, 06:50:46 AM
CIS needs your attention  ;)

(especially now that sereja has taught us how to make them super shiney)
Oh yeah those guys.

Well I made the Silver CIS side a while back but this was before I had to ability to munge (and thus was never released) so I'll revisit that I suppose.

I've just done about 4 Rebel skins in the last hour... probably get a release next week.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Darth Verik on June 30, 2012, 10:55:38 AM
Well i'd like to have a CIS skin mod with:
Troopers exacly like in the movies, so super battle droids (have no striped)
Seargents have red stripes (in this case the missle droids)
Luitenants have yellow stripes (here its healing droids)
Commanders have a red/yellow dot in the middle and have a stripe on their heads (this would be the sniper)
And the Droidika should be whatever you want....


Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 11:24:29 AM
I dont think that was what Unit was really looking for, he said he wanted a big project. I skin some and I think that would be somewhat easy to accomplish.

Great idea though!  :happy:
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 11:34:19 AM
Yeah I'm looking for something challenging... I could do those CIS edits but it would be tedious.
Big crazy edits are exciting :P
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Trooper: Edited version of stock, made to look more like in the movies
Rocket: Lando
Pilot: Leia
Sniper: Honzo
Wookie: Chewbacca

Is that hard?
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on June 30, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on June 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Trooper: Edited version of stock, made to look more like in the movies
Rocket: Lando
Pilot: Leia
Sniper: Honzo
Wookie: Chewbacca

Is that hard?

All those skins pretty much exist already.
I suppose I might do it after the current shenanigans.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on June 30, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
You would think it would be easy to come up with a crazy skin mod...

I seriously think you should make an Empire legion mod. :happy:

EDIT: You could add:
-Stock
-Red
-Blue
-Yellow
-Green
-Inverted (black troopers with white underclothing and visor)
-Snake's clean troopers
-Sith factions (would require some new models)
-Other suggestions

Im not sure what the names of the different colored empire legions (the red, blue, yellow, and green) are. If they didn't even exist in Star Wars, I don't think they should be added.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: ツ »¥ Ø Ð Å«™ ·٠•●●♥♫ ²º¹² on July 01, 2012, 02:29:54 AM
Hey Guys ;)
I hope that my Idea will be good enough..
Unit, maybe you can do much different Human Models (Different Faces) and make then Groupes like Empire for example a Grey Camouflage and Rebs and Brown Camouflage (Just an Example).. And they maybe can be very detailed and can whore different Clothes (For example Sniper in "Bush-Clothes" like on a CoD)
And then you can make at the same time.. Different Weapons who arent there for SWBF 1
For example:
-MP5
-Shot Guns
-Sniper Rifles
And so on ..
I hope you understand, what I mean
Sorry for my English it isnt the best ^^
Yoda ;)
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 01, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on June 30, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
You would think it would be easy to come up with a crazy skin mod...

I seriously think you should make an Empire legion mod. :happy:

EDIT: You could add:
-Stock
-Red
-Blue
-Yellow
-Green
-Inverted (black troopers with white underclothing and visor)
-Snake's clean troopers
-Sith factions (would require some new models)
-Other suggestions

Im not sure what the names of the different colored empire legions (the red, blue, yellow, and green) are. If they didn't even exist in Star Wars, I don't think they should be added.

Humph! I guess since this is the sort of thing people want... I'll do it after I finish the Alliance skins I'm doing now.


EDIT

Tested my Rebel skins that I spent ages on and they don't even work correctly on the model.

I'll just do the Imperial Legion skins for now... and then collapse into a pile of misery.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 05:17:58 AM
Right.... apologies for the Double Post but this is a substantial update...

Imperial Legions
35th Legion (Yellow Markings) DONE
212nd (Orange Markings) DONE
501st (Blue Markings) DONE
333rd Shadow Troopers (Black) DONE
Sand Troopers (Worn Armour) DONE
Shock Troopers (Red Markings) DONE
Camo Troopers (Camouflage with some kind of distinctive markings) DONE


Munging/testing....
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 07:03:18 AM
Sounds awesome, but I would really appreciate the Eagle Skin and Clean Troopers by Snake added into this. I know they aren't really "real" but I really like both of these.  :happy:

Are the camo troopers the ones you and me worked on a while back? I liked those, but the AT-AT pilot and Scout Trooper needed changes. Mine are all fixed up, I might be able to send it to you once I find it...  :dry:

EDIT: This isn't even related to this thread... but I like your new avatar, Unit. :happy:
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 07:13:06 AM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on July 02, 2012, 07:03:18 AM
Sounds awesome, but I would really appreciate the Eagle Skin and Clean Troopers by Snake added into this. I know they aren't really "real" but I really like both of these.  :happy:

Are the camo troopers the ones you and me worked on a while back? I liked those, but the AT-AT pilot and Scout Trooper needed changes. Mine are all fixed up, I might be able to send it to you once I find it...  :dry:

EDIT: This isn't even related to this thread... but I like your new avatar, Unit. :happy:

No, the Camouflaged troopers are completely new and improved.
"Clean" is just vanilla skins isn't it? And this mod is for the Empire not the Republic so I probably won't use the Eagle skin... Maybe an original "Raven" design for Imperial Armour?
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 07:19:13 AM
Wow... I just had a blonde moment. I knew those were rep, I just forgot to remember that they were rep.  :wacko:

Ok, nevermind. I look foreward to testing your Raven skins? (Please)  :happy:
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 07:22:03 AM
Quote from: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 07:13:06 AM
"Clean" is just vanilla skins isn't it?

It's pointless for empire, since they basically already have the clean skins. All that's changed to the rep to make them "clean" is the color markings were removed and replaced with grey. (For most)
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: ツ »¥ Ø Ð Å«™ ·٠•●●♥♫ ²º¹² on July 02, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
Yeah sounds good ..  :)
But my Ideas dont care ?!? :(
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Darth Verik on July 02, 2012, 09:14:48 AM
Hey Unit could you give me the links for the sand troopers (worn armor) and the 333rd troopers (black armor). Also could you make a skin for Ice Uniforms (like on Rhen Vahr)?
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: ツ »¥ Ø Ð Å«™ ·٠•●●♥♫ ²º¹² on July 02, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
Yeah sounds good ..  :)
But my Ideas dont care ?!? :(


One thing at a time ;)


Quote from: Darth Verik on July 02, 2012, 09:14:48 AM
Hey Unit could you give me the links for the sand troopers (worn armor) and the 333rd troopers (black armor). Also could you make a skin for Ice Uniforms (like on Rhen Vahr)?

I'll release the whole lost as separate online mods when I'm done. Hold onto your bottom...

Ice skins? Are you asking whether I'm editing the Snow Troopers too? Because I am.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Darth Verik on July 02, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
No, i mean to change the normal outfits, like the once on tantooine, to snow trooper skins.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
I was just scimming through google images for cool looking snow troopers, this was one that caught my eye.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Darth Verik on July 02, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
No, i mean to change the normal outfits, like the once on tantooine, to snow trooper skins.
Oh I see. Yeah I could do that too.


Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on July 02, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
I was just scimming through google images for cool looking snow troopers, this was one that caught my eye.

Yes that's the Ralph Mcquarrie concept art for the Snowtrooper. I based my "Concept Troopers" mod around them.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 01:54:54 PM
I know this is kinda a personal preference for the emp skin changer, but I would really like it if you could incorperate a Scout Trooper "legion".  :happy:

Regular Scout as trooper, Scout with blue markings as demolitions, Yellow/orange markings for pilot, red for sniper, Idc about the jet trooper. Perhaps making the markings similar to the clones, or just an overall color change for each faction. (Solid colors with different lights and darks to make it look more real.)
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If you can't add that, I may *try* to make it myself and you can maybe fix it up, cause I love the feel of the Scout in-game. It makes me feel so awesome...  8)
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EDIT: How do you attach something when you've already posted?
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on July 02, 2012, 01:54:54 PM
If you can't add that, I may *try* to make it myself and you can maybe fix it up, cause I love the feel of the Scout in-game. It makes me feel so awesome...  8)
When you have a clear idea such as that one, you may find it more fun to make it yourself.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
Thanks for posting... I didn't know how to attach my TGAs to the post I already posted.

Tell me what you think of these two, please. I'd be happy to make more of those... they aren't hard at all. I will make different colored versions if you like them.

Please tell me whether you like the camo with different colors or the plain scout with the armour edited different colors.

Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 02, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
Yeah those are good. You do it.
It also involves HEX editing to allow for multiple of the same model using different skins; and I'm too lazy to engage in HEX edits.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 02, 2012, 03:54:22 PM
I have never Hex-Edited before... I'd love to learn, though.

Could I just make the skins and send them your way? Is it possible to just rename the tga images to whatever the ODF needs to read to show up in-game as your skin?

I.E.: Name the edited yellow/orange version of the scout imp_inf_pilot (or whatever the tgas name is) even though its the same image, just colored different and named differently.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Phobos on July 02, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
its something i call hex duping and you basically just copy the msh, then hex edit to call on different tgas (rename one or more character for each tga name) this lets you use the same model design with different skins.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2012, 06:42:51 AM
All of the assets are completed... Anyone fancy doing the legion script treatment if I upload the assets?

Otherwise I'll start munging each legion as a separate OC mod (of which there are nine. Yes Nine)!

Here's 2 sample pictures attached below. There's lots more but I'll upload it all later...
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Shazam on July 03, 2012, 07:53:59 AM
Oh my! I better get my end done today! I was under the impression this would take us a good week. (Guess not) That's awesome, Unit! I will be done with mine today at some point, I will upload them all here in one .zip file.  :happy:

EDIT: Sometime today I would greatly appreciate it if you could xfire me all of the skins so I can test them. I am curious on the quality of them since you completed them very quickly. (I'm sure they're great, I just want to make sure they don't do anything weird in-game.)

I can send mine to you, once they're done, if you want to see all of mine before putting them in the skin changer. They should be alright, but you never know for sure.
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Unit, you should change the name of this topic to "Empire Skin Changer", since you aren't really taking ideas right now.
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Yellow Camo Trooper - DONE
Blue Camo Trooper - DONE
Red Camo Trooper - DONE
Green Camo - DONE
Black/White Camo - DONE

Red Armored Scout - DONE
Blue Armored Scout - DONE
Yellow Armored Scout - DONE
Green Scout - DONE

TGAs all made.
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Kit Fisto on July 03, 2012, 08:19:26 AM
As you know I did a 212th IMP legion which you were greatly involved in. You can use that for the 212th or, since yours is probably better quality (  :'( ) you could do both! Like 212th first division then 212th second division! What do ya think?
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2012, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: kitfisto15678 on July 03, 2012, 08:19:26 AM
As you know I did a 212th IMP legion which you were greatly involved in. You can use that for the 212th or, since yours is probably better quality (  :'( ) you could do both! Like 212th first division then 212th second division! What do ya think?

Yeah I've done the Imperial 212 already.
Imperial Legions
35th Legion (Yellow Markings) DONE
212nd (Orange Markings) DONE
501st (Blue Markings) DONE
333rd Shadow Troopers (Black with Yellow Markings) DONE
Sand Troopers (Worn Armour) DONE
Shock Troopers (Red Markings) DONE
33rd Shadow Troopers (Black) DONE
Title: Re: Taking Ideas.
Post by: Kit Fisto on July 03, 2012, 08:29:12 AM
I know. But what I'm saying is use yours AND mine... :)
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Shazam on July 03, 2012, 08:41:52 AM
We have an awful lot of skins here. I think one is enough, thanks for the offer.

I finished all the TGAs, I will attach them below.

Do you want me to make a lvl file for both of these? Or are the TGAs fine?
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Now all we need is to make a skin changer...any takers. :P
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Phobos on July 03, 2012, 09:18:51 AM
It looks cool so far, sorry I can't help bcuz a certain spanish person has prevented me from developing any more public skin changers.  :(
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Kit Fisto on July 03, 2012, 10:34:47 AM
When you do this, as an option make sure to do "stock" cuz sk's clone legion changer doesn't have that. Also please do NOT change effects like sk did because his effects overloads my computer.  Other than those 2 things I can't wait!! :tu:
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Shazam on July 03, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
As far as I know, we will not be changing anything other than the skins. I don't think we were planning on adding stock, but we might be able to.
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on July 03, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
As far as I know, we will not be changing anything other than the skins. I don't think we were planning on adding stock, but we might be able to.

Yeah I planned for it, I'm including the "Vanilla" assets in the upload.
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Shazam on July 03, 2012, 11:28:22 AM
I may have found someone to make the skin changer for us. Unit, please log onto xfire at your nearest convenience.
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I can't test these until later. I will see if I can do it today.
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Snake on July 03, 2012, 01:32:40 PM
Sweet skins unit!
Title: Re: The Imperial Legions (Taking Ideas.)
Post by: Shazam on July 04, 2012, 01:34:01 PM
We are not able to add the two Scout Trooper legions. :'(
I will just release those skins as assets and two seperate side.lvl's. :confused:

Unit, perhaps we could replace it with the camoflauge Empire skins. (not all scouts) Those would work, and they are cool. :happy:
I will browse through my chat log with you to see if I can find that link again.
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