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Title: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 06, 2015, 01:58:04 PM
No one seemed to post this (admin or lead admin, so unless one of them post otherwise, this should be the thread which rules week 5 servers)


Saturday:
--ICW5-- 1PM YAK@Alpha (CW)            Location: US
--ICW5-- 2PM YAK@En'Ten (GCW)            Location: US
--ICW5-- 3PM FC@Alpha (GCW)           Location: US
--ICW5-- 4PM FC@Alpha (GCW)           Location: US
--ICW5-- 5PM Alpha@YAK (GCW)           Location: US

Sunday:
--ICW5-- 2PM Alpha@FC (CW)             Location: US
--ICW5-- 3PM En'Ten@FC (GCW)         Location: EU (If they finally get an EU host)
--ICW5-- 4PM En'Ten@YAK (CW)         Location: EU

Password for all servers: miw

The times are EST.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 06, 2015, 02:52:52 PM
You're fine, Anyder.  Thanks for doing this.
I can verify that all this information is correct and these are the battle times for this weekend.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Phobos on August 06, 2015, 07:56:18 PM
Thanks for adding the eras here too as Joseph suggested. This makes it much easier to set up the servers as i dont have to check multiple threads :tu:

From now on I would recommending includeing map names too, like this

Saturday
--ICW5-- 1PM YAK@Alpha             (CW Felucia)            Location: US
--ICW5-- 2PM YAK@En'Ten             (GCW Mustafar)            Location: US
--ICW5-- 3PM FC@Alpha             (GCW Jabba's Palace)           Location: US
--ICW5-- 4PM FC@Alpha             (GCW Utapau)           Location: US
--ICW5-- 5PM Alpha@YAK             (GCW Hoth Caves)           Location: US

Sunday
--ICW5-- 2PM Alpha@FC             (CW Eddies Kastel)             Location: US
--ICW5-- 3PM En'Ten@FC             (GCW Dantooine Dust)         Location: EU
--ICW5-- 4PM En'Ten@YAK             (CW Jedi Temple)         Location: EU
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 07, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
I'd like to remark that FC will not join any server which is not "pinged". We don't wanna join selfhost servers which are horribly laggy and unplayable
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on August 07, 2015, 09:48:45 PM
Thanks for putting this post up, I've been busy with packing and stuff. As for the server, any server that a ICW match happens in needs to be dedicated. Self hosted servers are not allowed.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Siggi En'Ten on August 08, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
Siggi En'Ten here.
We are hosting an EU Server.
Servers are up for both matches.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: BlackScorpion on August 08, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
I'm getting CD Key Not Authorized message, I've even reinstalled GameMaster twice.  :'(
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 08, 2015, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: Siggi on August 08, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
Siggi En'Ten here.
We are hosting an EU Server.
Servers are up for both matches.
Please dont confuse players.
EU host is only necessary for ur attacks, which are tomorrow. Today it is all US Server
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: BOB.LION on August 08, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 08, 2015, 12:40:57 PM
Please dont confuse players.
EU host is only necessary for ur attacks, which are tomorrow. Today it is all US Server

He did say 'both' meaning the two battles. Anyways thanks for clarifying that for everyone
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 08, 2015, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: BOB.LION on August 08, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
He did say 'both' meaning the two battles. Anyways thanks for clarifying that for everyone
There are right now 2 eu servers with the matches from 9 (already finished) and another one at 10.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: Anyder on August 07, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
I'd like to remark that FC will not join any server which is not "pinged". We don't wanna join selfhost servers which are horribly laggy and unplayable
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 07, 2015, 09:48:45 PM
As for the server, any server that a ICW match happens in needs to be dedicated. Self hosted servers are not allowed.
Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 08, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
We are hosting an EU Server. Servers are up for both matches.
The server they have set up is a selfhost server which is hosted by the same person who is hosting the "Battlefront-Cantina" servers (Host address for the server try for ICW5: 80.147.13.240:3659 ; Host address for the BF-Cantina server:IP: 80.147.13.240:3658) --> http://master.gameshare.co/#swbfrontpc

Also if u track the IP to know more about the host, u'll see how the DNS does not belong to any server-hosting company, what means it is selfhost --> http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=80.147.13.240

And this is the info of my german rootserver --> http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=5.9.132.3

I joined their server yesterday night and my ping was 110 when in FC Mos cita I have 66-77 ping.
After joining the FC Mos Cita server i tried to join their server and was not even able to join it (I have a video if someone asks for it)

And also it is not a problem of my internet cause I think my inet is good enough to be able to reach all servers, but I cannot even join that one --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/4569254444.png
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Drunken_Master on August 09, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
Also if u track the IP to know more about the host, u'll see how the DNS does not belong to any server-hosting company, what means it is selfhost --> http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=80.147.13.240

I think the intended meanings here are that self-hosted means hosting from within the game stand alone / client, while dedicated server means using the BF server software to host.  Even in the strictest definition of a dedicated physical box purposed solely for hosting BF, a dedicated server need not come from a server-hosting company. 
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
Quote from: {Alpha}Drunken_Master on August 09, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
I think the intended meanings here are that self-hosted means hosting from within the game stand alone / client, while dedicated server means using the BF server software to host.  Even in the strictest definition of a dedicated physical box purposed solely for hosting BF, a dedicated server need not come from a server-hosting company.
Well, selfhost is not Player Host only, but also hosting it from your home (with a dedicated server software or whatever).
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
Hi,

so this server is dedicated. We got that from the same hoster as battlefront-cantina thats right.
Its definitly a rootserver.
Port forwarding is open.
And as you can see on http://master.gameshare.co/ the server has a green tick. Which means its totally playable. I talked to Kalle from gameshare.co about that.

And stop saying its selfhosted. All servers are self hosted in some way. Just because the server is not hosted by an authorized gameserver provider it doenst mean its unplayble.

Your just annoyed because you have a higher ping then normal. I had to play on American servers and had pings up to 190 so stop complaining.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: BOB.LION on August 09, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
Hi,

so this server is dedicated. We got that from the same hoster as battlefront-cantina thats right.
Its definitly a rootserver.
Port forwarding is open.
And as you can see on http://master.gameshare.co/ the server has a green tick. Which means its totally playable. I talked to Kalle from gameshare.co about that.

And stop saying its selfhosted. All servers are self hosted in some way. Just because the server is not hosted by an authorized gameserver provider it doenst mean its unplayble.

Your just annoyed because you have a higher ping then normal. I had to play on American servers and had pings up to 190 so stop complaining.

Plz don't anger him. It took unit many minutes to delete salty posts  :'(
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
Hi,

so this server is dedicated. We got that from the same hoster as battlefront-cantina thats right.
Its definitly a rootserver.
Port forwarding is open.
And as you can see on http://master.gameshare.co/ the server has a green tick. Which means its totally playable. I talked to Kalle from gameshare.co about that.
Lol ?
It is dedicated from your own PC, or another one u might have, and that is something I can do myself.
It is not the same "hoster" (#Concept) but the same PC or let me say, the same hosting "machine".
If u had a rootserver u wouldnt need to port forward lol (at least from my experience, i never ever had to port forward unless it was from my home lol).
It has a green tick cause it means it is hosted with a dedicated server software, not for any other reason.
It is also definitely unplayable, for me (with 110 ping and lag spikes) and for all the american players (Dark Phantom has 200 ping in your server, and in FC Mos Cita which is hosted in germany and its a rootserver by Hetzner, he has 163 --

6:45 PM - phantom567459: I want to check my ping.  Although I'm in the US, it is kind of relevant seeing that most players are in US
6:45 PM - phantom567459: We don't force them to play in crap servers
6:47 PM - phantom567459: But this is ridiculous.  Almost 200 ping on a school network with no one on it...
6:47 PM - Anyder Motionless: go FC Mos cita
6:47 PM - phantom567459: Ok
6:51 PM - Anyder Motionless: U had 163 ping right ?
6:51 PM - phantom567459: Yeah
6:51 PM - phantom567459: But a GOOD 163
6:52 PM - phantom567459: i tried playing and shooting and I was fine


6:45 PM - Anyder Motionless: yea cuase i think if u have 250 ping in mine, u'll reach 300 there lol
6:46 PM - Anyder Motionless: ill ask phobos to test if he can get to join lol
6:50 PM - Phobos: lol
6:51 PM - Phobos: count busy

In other words, many players cannot reach the server cause of the bad internet connection it has...

Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
And stop saying its selfhosted. All servers are self hosted in some way. Just because the server is not hosted by an authorized gameserver provider it doenst mean its unplayble.

It is selfhosted, so I can say it if i want to lol
And also u just admited hosting it in a none authorized gameserver provider AKA rented machine.

Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
Your just annoyed because you have a higher ping then normal. I had to play on American servers and had pings up to 190 so stop complaining.
Yea, In FC Mos cita which is also hosted in germany I had 66-77 ping whereas in your selfhost server I had 110 ping with spikes.

And I can complain all I want cause that server is not valid for the matches of today.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:23:22 AM
As I said before, all servers need to be dedicated not self-hosted. Meaning it needs to be hosted from a company VPS or root server. (Any company, any server location) Not from someones house who has good internet.

There are also people who own and run root-servers from their home, if that is the case for this situation I will allow it if the internet speed of the persons home is above 100+ mb/s download and 60+ mb/s upload, which is the standard of company VPS's/root-servers.


@Siggi

Can you give proof that is hosted from a root server? Also maybe a speed test result of the internet speed of the root server?

@Anyder can you provide screen shots of your ping in that server & one of your servers? Since their both located in Germany there should be very little difference.

Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
As seen in this (http://imgur.com/P6l3of2) screenshot, the server is dedicated, has a reasonable ping and people can join. Just because the IP is not saved in some IP tracker's database, doesn't mean it is bad or not rooted.

Hope the admins recognize this, because your claims of this server not being valid for this tournament are ridiculous.


EDIT: Windows Ping (http://imgur.com/szH9q33) gives me a difference of 20ms between your server and this one. A difference that small shouldn't be too significant for the players.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
As seen in this (http://imgur.com/P6l3of2) screenshot, the server is dedicated, has a reasonable ping and people can join. Just because the IP is not saved in some IP tracker's database, doesn't mean it is bad or not rooted.

Hope the admins recognize this, because your claims of this server not being valid for this tournament are ridiculous.

From this screen shot I see no issues. Can you provide a in-game screen shot of players pings?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 10:37:38 AM
I want to see some type of proof that the server has an acceptable speed as per Bomber's request.  It may ping fine outside the server, but once we get 20 people in there, can it handle it?  The pings that have been gotten are not as reasonable as 60.  In fact, no one that has joined for us, including Anyder, has gotten anything close to that.

I have played in the server and am unhappy with it (as are many), but if it meets the standards, we will still use it.

Edit:  I have added my screenshot.  Outside the server pinged at 9999 for me, but I have seen it actually ping at 200 outside since it originally went up.  170 in and of itself seems ok, but when SirPimped was in there with me, it jumped and spiked.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: SirPimped on August 09, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:33:43 AM
From this screen shot I see no issues. Can you provide a in-game screen shot of players pings?

For reference, my ping was between 190 - 210. At times the server was ok, but the majority of the time the server seemed sluggish which made it difficult to move.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:33:43 AM
From this screen shot I see no issues. Can you provide a in-game screen shot of players pings?

http://i.imgur.com/E0BwcVY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vv2inth.jpg

Constant ping of ~80

Honestly, I think the discussion about the state of the server is really pitiful. The EU people have played on American servers for the last few weeks and (as far as I can see) there was never a problem with that. I got to taste those sweet 300+ pings yesterday for myself and no one complained, because it was still a lot of fun.

Now why are we even here discussing this? It runs fine for me with my average EU internet. American people are going to lag either way, nothing to be done about it.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
I thought I had posted lol

This is the speed of my rootserver by hetzner - http://www.speedtest.net/result/4569419765.png

This is my ping in FC Mos Cita - http://fcsite.ml/Pics/Battlefront%202015-08-09%2019-33-57-31.png
Ping in that selfhost server - http://fcsite.ml/Pics/Battlefront%202015-08-09%2019-26-41-56.png

Also RAM usage is 53% as shown on this pic - http://fcsite.ml/Pics/Rootserver.png


@Siggi, please, post the info of ur root like i did :)
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
Honestly, I think the discussion about the state of the server is really pitiful. The EU people have played on American servers for the last few weeks and (as far as I can see) there was never a problem with that. I got to taste those sweet 300+ pings yesterday for myself and no one complained, because it was still a lot of fun.

Now why are we even here discussing this? It runs fine for me with my average EU internet. American people are going to lag either way, nothing to be done about it.

I agree to be fair. When I play on the US servers, I have to cope with the high ping but I still find it quite fun. There's only two Europe servers in the whole thing anyway so it can't be that bad.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Drunken_Master on August 09, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
I think Bomber's rules are fair.  Just to mention, Alpha's root server (quad Xeon >2GHz) runs on 93 down 13 up and seems to do ok with at least up to 15 players. Haven't tried more than that.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Syyy on August 09, 2015, 11:02:48 AM
Anyder's gonna burn cities for a 40ms latency difference.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: Syyy on August 09, 2015, 11:02:48 AM
Anyder's gonna burn cities for a 40ms latency difference.
Well if it is an EU host and the difference is that yea, but also u should study math cause 111-80= 30 , not 40 lol

I've played in USA and i can pwn there and same goes to EU, but i just dont wanna play in a eu server where i have the same ping as if it was a US server lol

EDIT: Nvm, u're right, but i wouldnt burn, I'd mosh
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 11:43:15 AM
If EnTen would please produce a SpeedTest of their server, that would be great.
Until then, FC is in the US server, unless Bomber has any other input.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 11:52:58 AM
There is no reason AT ALL to do that. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you going to deny us the server if Anyder's is faster? So what of it? Why are we even comparing these two? Will Anyder host then? We have no problem with that, but it looks to me like you just want us to play on an US server as Anyder wouldn't WANT to host anyway.

Why don't you just cmd ping the server yourself?

What is the whole reason of this argument? I seriously don't get it. Look at these pings ingame (http://imgur.com/BLY9QbZ). Nothing over 100.

I do not speak for Enten but this is so ridiculous. Holy moly.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 11:55:34 AM
Pings are really bad lol All germans usually get 50-60 max ping in my servers lol

They did cmd ping and it was ~200+ cause no VPS or rootserver


I do not host, cause I dont want and cause Im not gonna try to benefit u: if u want a euro machine, rent one.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Led on August 09, 2015, 11:59:04 AM
Alright, I feel the need to step in here.

1)  I think the rules about server locations were stated before the tournament started.

2)  If it is allowed to host at NFO Germany (Frankfurt), I will rent a server for a month
https://www.nfoservers.com/order-virtual-dedicated-server.php

if that will make it work for everyone.


Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
We will try to make it work this week.  I am trying to reach a compromise.

I will rent a server from Frankfurt next week if we need to.  Don't worry about it Led.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Led on August 09, 2015, 12:07:26 PM
I have money in my NFO coffer--so you should let me get it--but I would ask you to manage it  ;)

Just come to a decision and I will press the buttons  :cheers:
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 12:10:22 PM
We are on our server, no lag whatsoever, ready to start. You guys wanna join or nah?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:17:00 PM
Server is not pinged so we're not forced to join it. Official server is still the US one as you didn't find an EU host.

Also, you did not provide a pic of the internet and that takes 1 min

Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:23:22 AM
As I said before, all servers need to be dedicated not self-hosted. Meaning it needs to be hosted from a company VPS or root server. (Any company, any server location) Not from someones house who has good internet.

There are also people who own and run root-servers from their home, if that is the case for this situation I will allow it if the internet speed of the persons home is above 100+ mb/s download and 60+ mb/s upload, which is the standard of company VPS's/root-servers.


@Siggi

Can you give proof that is hosted from a root server? Also maybe a speed test result of the internet speed of the root server?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 12:22:32 PM
Nobody is forfeiting this battle yet.  I'm not forcing anyone to go anywhere yet, and we can reach a compromise.  I did take a pic of the server.  I am on very good internet but in US, so take it with a grain of salt.
If we really have to, I will ask Led to get a server, but he can't get one instantaneously.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:23:33 PM
Anyder you could solve all this issue and host yourself? Even though, as far as I am aware its a perfectly legitimate server, that is totally playable.

-It would save Led renting one for starters, got nothing to do with En'ten.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:23:33 PM
Anyder you could solve all this issue and host yourself? Even though, as far as I am aware its a perfectly legitimate server, that is totally playable.

-It would save Led renting one for starters, got nothing to do with En'ten.
Why would I host ? There is no reason for me to host lol

1) Im not a tournament admin
2) My servers are for my clan. The community already trolled me much and i'm sick of that.
3) I have no responsibility with this cup administration
4) Your clan and basically all the icw enten team, has insulted me and called me everything, so I wouldnt help with anything.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:17:00 PM
Server is not pinged so we're not forced to join it. Official server is still the US one as you didn't find an EU host.

Well if we play by that. I CANT ping your server ether.

And here are screens Kubianer made when they played on US Servers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfn1qqum5m81fv0/battlefront_client%202015-07-12%2021-03-39-34.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7wzmq1yfwmt26g/battlefront_client%202015-07-12%2021-10-41-82.png?dl=0

These pings are way worse then what an US player (GDH0) on our server has.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
Why would I host ? There is no reason for me to host lol

1) Im not a tournament admin
2) My servers are for my clan. The community already trolled me much and i'm sick of that.
3) I have no responsibility with this cup administration
4) Your clan and basically all the icw enten team, has insulted me and called me everything, so I wouldnt help with anything.
You don't need to be a tournament admin..
And as far as I am aware, Led doesnt either but he's willing to rent a server.
Okay cool, that helps a lot.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 12:30:53 PM
Well if we play by that. I CANT ping your server ether.
Show me a picture of that.
We already got DP to upload a pic, and also I proved I have a rootserver, unlike you.

Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
You don't need to be a tournament admin..
And as far as I am aware, Led doesnt either but he's willing to rent a server.
Okay cool, that helps a lot.
That is not my problem. Im sick and tired of your team. You beg for a server for this, but ban me from everywhere (true that i reached an agreement with chilli to remove the block from my root, and he'd unban from ts, but im still banned in many other servers).
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Led on August 09, 2015, 12:34:07 PM
I can ping them both....


78 ms for me to the US server
187 ms for me to the Euro server


edit:

me to anyder's NFO server 156
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 12:39:17 PM
EU
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150809%2Ftemp%2Fveuv8y6h.jpg&hash=3e3dd61210745395a9b94dc5a1ed195e66a9c255) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4074/veuv8y6h_jpg.htm)

US
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150809%2Ftemp%2Fjqplpzdg.jpg&hash=811d59961fad0c981facd0acc644f69e5429d87e) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4074/jqplpzdg_jpg.htm)
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Led on August 09, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
My experience is that command prompt pings will be lower that the in-game pings.

The pings I listed were from the SWBF lobby.

In any event, just an FYI.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on August 09, 2015, 12:42:08 PM
I've been in both servers; For me in the UK (That's right in the middle ;) ) there is no problems in either. The US one is fine as always, no complaints there. The Euro one has a better ping for me but it is also higher than other euro servers, I'm not sure where it's based. I can grenade jump fine in it with ten other players and I only had one very brief lag spike, which I would expect from any server.

This is my screen: http://postimg.org/image/z0j521t9b/

Both pings change by about 30 if I refresh but that's the normal reading.

Edit: It's easy for me to say but lets just play. Sereja's released a map I need to play. :)
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 12:42:37 PM
Pings

Server is pinged in lobby for everyone of us as seen in a previous screenshot
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
Nobody is asking you to ping that. We're asking for a pinged server, not a selfhost server which is 9999.
We don't care if u have lower ping in the selfhost, servers have to be official.
Use the speedtest with that "rootserver(not)" you have, and show us the real speed of the IP - 80.147.13.240

Quote from: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 12:42:37 PM
Pings

Server is pinged in lobby for everyone of us as seen in a previous screenshot

also the average is not 50, it's 54
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
Well I could.
Company agreements dictate that its forbidden.

I am done arguing about that.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: Siggi En'Ten on August 09, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
Well I could.
Company agreements dictate that its forbidden.
Show us that. Cause i can do a speedtest with my machine.

Since u broke the rule that servers had to be official machines, I guess FC Takes the victory as we were in the server until 3:45pm

Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 10:23:22 AM
As I said before, all servers need to be dedicated not self-hosted. Meaning it needs to be hosted from a company VPS or root server. (Any company, any server location) Not from someones house who has good internet.

There are also people who own and run root-servers from their home, if that is the case for this situation I will allow it if the internet speed of the persons home is above 100+ mb/s download and 60+ mb/s upload, which is the standard of company VPS's/root-servers.


@Siggi
Can you give proof that is hosted from a root server? Also maybe a speed test result of the internet speed of the root server?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:50:18 PM
Since everyone is here to play, I dont see why we can not play in the euro server now? If it turns out that there is a significant problem with it after, the simple solution of a re-match would be ok I am sure...
And Shazam since it is an attack, it would be necessary to play it in a European server instead of the American one since that is the issue here. No point in playing it in the American one.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 12:51:04 PM
The server will be hosted in NFO Frankfurt.  I will inform everyone when it is up.
It will be the official server.  I will give a reasonable time for everyone to join.  This will be the server for both the EnTen vs FC and EnTen vs YAK.  If players do not join, it will result in a forfeit for the team.


Thank Led for being kind enough to do this.  He did not want to be involved in any of this but was willing to step in to help.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 09, 2015, 12:50:18 PM
No point in playing it in the American one.
And also no point in playing in a selfhost server which is forbidden...
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 12:51:49 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
Nobody is asking you to ping that. We're asking for a pinged server, not a selfhost server which is 9999.

As seen either here http://postimg.org/image/z0j521t9b/ (screen by gdh) or here http://imgur.com/P6l3of2 the server is perfectly fine in lobby, like I said before.


Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:44:25 PMalso the average is not 50, it's 54

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/22118345.jpg
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 12:51:49 PM
As seen either here http://postimg.org/image/z0j521t9b/ (screen by gdh) or here http://imgur.com/P6l3of2 the server is perfectly fine in lobby, like I said before.


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/22118345.jpg
I do care. If you're bad at math I should contact your parents cause u do not advance properly..  :cheers:

Also it might ping for you, but not for any of us
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on August 09, 2015, 12:55:52 PM
the server seems to have 99999 ping for me and Americans. Lets just wait for the NFO server.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Kubi on August 09, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
I really don't know why we discuss about this topic... En'Ten played on US servers a lot, because the rules said, that we have to. We had really bad pings as well, as the screenshots show:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfn1qqum5m81fv0/battlefront_client%202015-07-12%2021-03-39-34.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7wzmq1yfwmt26g/battlefront_client%202015-07-12%2021-10-41-82.png?dl=0

So i don't know, why american players are allowed to complain about bad pings and to claim another server, but german players have to accept bad pings & co? It's a normal root server like any other swbf server is too. And it's working fine. You are just complaining, because your ping is bad. But this is normal. We have bad pings on US servers too.

En'Ten is attacker and so En'Ten is choosing the server. The enemy don't want to play on this server, so En'Ten is winning. Right?

Can an admin please make a decision and follow the rules? Otherwise this tournament is more like a joke.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
I did make a decision.  Everyone is playing on NFO Frankfurt when it goes up, whether or not they can ping it or it is laggier than all the other servers.  This is the official decision.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Kubi on August 09, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
So i don't know, why american players are allowed to complain about bad pings and to claim another server, but german players have to accept bad pings & co? It's a normal root server like any other swbf server is too. And it's working fine. You are just complaining, because your ping is bad. But this is normal. We have bad pings on US servers too.

En'Ten is attacker and so En'Ten is choosing the server. The enemy don't want to play on this server, so En'Ten is winning. Right?

Can an admin please make a decision and follow the rules? Otherwise this tournament is more like a joke.
Well, I should be the one to complain most. I live in Spain so I get also bad pings in US and still im able to beat.
We're not complaining just cause of that, but because pings are far too high to be a normal "VPS(according to u)", so server is hosted from your house.

That's not how it works, cause you do not have a valid VPS or Rootserver to host.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: DEAGLE on August 09, 2015, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
I did make a decision.  Everyone is playing on NFO Frankfurt when it goes up, whether or not they can ping it or it is laggier than all the other servers.  This is the official decision.

Thank you.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Kubi on August 09, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 09, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
but because pings are far too high to be a normal "VPS(according to u)", so server is hosted from your house.

That's not how it works, cause you do not have a valid VPS or Rootserver to host.

It's not hosted from anybodys house. It's a normal root server as we alredy mentioned. And as my screenshots showed, we already had bad pings on US servers too. So these servers were selfhosted as well? That is how i understand you argumentation. Bad pings = selfhosted. Right?

I really don't understand why the admins don't accept our server. rules are rules. Maybe next time En'Ten should complain about pings too.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
It's up.  It has REAL at the end.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
I read this entire thing, it's a shame I couldn't handle this sooner. I'm currently at the beach so I'm limited at the moment. After seeing the screen shots I still don't see the problem why the match couldn't happen in their server. It looked like everyone got normal ping to me but it seems Led fixed the issue so thank you Led.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Joseph on August 09, 2015, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
After seeing the screen shots I still don't see the problem why the match couldn't happen in their server.

I agree, it probably should have happened in their server. Thanks Led.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Led on August 09, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
Anything to keep the peace  ;)

Looks like the battle is underway.

GG all.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
So I was told killing SPECs is not allowed so here's a clip of who I believe is Merc_Maj_Enten opening fire on purpose towards the specs.
https://youtu.be/TtzzvgFv8HY

This screenshot shows the name clearer:
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHn6rarj.jpg&hash=eeecf5b4c496f2d7e79792cc2aeaffb8e4fc9886)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: {TCE}Call-of-Duty on August 09, 2015, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
So I was told killing SPECs is not allowed so here's a clip of who I believe is Merc_Maj_Enten opening fire on purpose towards the specs.
https://youtu.be/TtzzvgFv8HY

This screenshot shows the name clearer:
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHn6rarj.jpg&hash=eeecf5b4c496f2d7e79792cc2aeaffb8e4fc9886)[/spoiler]
Who was it that jumped up to were you guys were Specing and shot towards the players?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: BOB.LION on August 09, 2015, 03:03:22 PM
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on August 09, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
I read this entire thing, it's a shame I couldn't handle this sooner. I'm currently at the beach so I'm limited at the moment. After seeing the screen shots I still don't see the problem why the match couldn't happen in their server. It looked like everyone got normal ping to me but it seems Led fixed the issue so thank you Led.

Ah the beach! Which beach? Did u have a nice time?
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Syyy on August 09, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
It is my entire responsibility, I deliberately encouraged Majesty to shoot towards me, knowing the game was ending, and knowing I spawned in the same side he spawned. What he did was harmless to the outcome of the game. I do not know who killed one of the spectator, though.
The person that jumped to us was a spec, no player joined our tea-and-cake-party.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: Syyy on August 09, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
It is my entire responsibility, I deliberately encouraged Majesty to shoot towards me, knowing the game was ending, and knowing I spawned in the same side he spawned. What he did was harmless to the outcome of the game. I do not know who killed one of the spectator, though.
The person that jumped to us was a spec, no player joined our tea-and-cake-party.

Ok but I didn't catch the name of the one who killed Unit 33. I have a clip of it though.
I still didn't catch you shoot towards Majesty though. I just saw this:
https://youtu.be/53xr_3A4YhI

ALSO Here's the clip of the guy who killed unit 33:
https://youtu.be/2DfdNRDQRkw
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Kelle` on August 09, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
A spectator shooting into the battle at combatants? That's a no-no. If spectators don't spectator properly, then they can no longer be allowed to remain in the server during battles.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: Kelle` on August 09, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
A spectator shooting into the battle at combatants? That's a no-no. If spectators don't spectator properly, then they can no longer be allowed to remain in the server during battles.

None of the other SPECs did anything though. Besides, we still don't know who killed Unit 33...
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Unit 33 on August 09, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
It was JackDaniel, but I don't think it particularly harmed the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Unit 33 on August 09, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
It was JackDaniel, but I don't think it particularly harmed the outcome of the game.

I've just noticed that ;)
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrcgIS7y.jpg&hash=b3f2b19280c49c83782e487a470a7bab6a543e5c)[/spoiler]
I also agree. The same outcome would've happened anyway but I just reported this in case.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Shazam on August 09, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Good games this week.

I would also like to mention that the spectators shouldn't be carrying on conversations once the battle starts in the global OR team chats.  It is a distraction to the players.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Shazam on August 09, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Good games this week.

I would also like to mention that the spectators shouldn't be carrying on conversations once the battle starts in the global OR team chats.  It is a distraction to the players.

Sorry for that, I was the main one who was doing that and I didn't realise it was against the rules until I re-read them. Sorry.
Good game anyway! It's a shame YAK didn't do as good as yesterday though :/
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Syyy on August 09, 2015, 03:54:03 PM
I am to blame for this too. It will not happen again.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Is the whole SPEC killing case sorted now? If it is I'll take down the videos since they're not needed ;)
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Unit 33 on August 09, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
Yeah sure why not.
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: TheGangstarTY on August 09, 2015, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: Unit 33 on August 09, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
Yeah sure why not.
Ok cool! I'll remove them shortly ;)
Title: Re: ICW5 Week 5 Servers & Password
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 09, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
Yeah there was a little much going on there.
I recommend that spectators move a little further out during a battle.  It will prevent that type of thing, but this was no issue in my opinion.  Spectators can chat a little, but keep to a minimum.  The PLA TeamSpeak might be a good place to gather for spectators.

Thanks again Led for getting the server for us.
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