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Title: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 30, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
You heard it folks, this could either go horribly wrong or pretty good. Turned out well for Marvel right?

QuoteDisney, which already owns brands such as Pixar, Marvel, ESPN and ABC, announced it is paying $4.05bn for the production company.

It confirmed it is making Star Wars Episode 7, which is scheduled to be released in 2015.

Kathleen Kennedy, the current co-chairman of Lucasfilm, will become its president and will report to Walt Disney Studios Chairman Alan Horn.

Lucas will be creative consultant on new Star Wars films.

"It's now time for me to pass 'Star Wars' on to a new generation of filmmakers," he said after the deal was announced.

http://news.sky.com/story/1004857/disney-buys-lucasfilm-and-plans-new-star-wars
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Helios on October 30, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
The big "B" huh? well then Disney... Lets see what you got.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 30, 2012, 01:53:45 PM
It's not April Fools yet....
I was hoping for star wars to go a bit 'grittier' not this but I'll remain optimistic.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Yeah...
I don't think this bodes well for Star Wars.
But how much worse can it possibly get?

-edit
Good for Mr Lucas, though.
He made an amazing thing and deserves the tremendous payout.

I'm just not comfortable with Disney(or anyone) putting together the Galaxy after Endor.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 30, 2012, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Yeah...
I don't think this bodes well for Star Wars.
But how much worse can it possibly get?

-edit
Good for Mr Lucas, though.
He made an amazing thing and deserves the tremendous payout.

I'm just not comfortable with Disney(or anyone) putting together the Galaxy after Endor.
Considering what the expanded Universe actually looks like I do not look forward to film adaptions of that material.

Here's some wacky things that happened in the novels, comics etc that took place after Endor:

.The Emperor Was Cloned
.Luke Was Never The Last Of The Jedi (turns out there was bloody loads of them all over the gaff)
.Luke Turns to the Dark Side
.Boba Fett escapes the Salaac Pit multiple times
.Chewbacca gets killed attempting to physically hold a moon up from a planet........
.Magic
.Yuuzhan Vong
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
If I see mouse ears on anything or hear one song... I'll puke and walk out.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on October 30, 2012, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
If I see mouse ears on anything or hear one song... I'll puke and walk out.
lololol
i have to admit im sorta worried about this movie too. I have heard a lot of "after endor" stories too, and several dont sound to promiseing. Also when is this move taking place? are they going to be using the same characters left off in E6?
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 30, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on October 30, 2012, 02:42:40 PM
lololol
i have to admit im sorta worried about this movie too. I have heard a lot of "after endor" stories too, and several dont sound to promiseing. Also when is this move taking place? are they going to be using the same characters left off in E6?

I wonder if they'll stick to the timeline from the books (I hope so, they're good :)). I had to laugh just now when my brother came in and said; 'have you heard the Star Wars news?' followed by 'is it a joke?'
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Joseph on October 30, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
horrible news, although honestly they cant do worse than the prequels
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: Joseph on October 30, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
horrible news, although honestly they cant do worse than the prequels

So right about that.

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.disneydreaming.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F08%2FGeorge-Lucas-Disney.jpg&hash=54c214f830582bab8e7a2c8d6ce9e1dc29fdb4d0)
He looks so sad....
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {212}FrenchFryZ on October 30, 2012, 03:23:30 PM
LOL! I hope they can just work around what they ussuly do and make something at least Okay Intresting i didnt know that disney would even try dabiling with guns  ::)
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on October 30, 2012, 04:29:23 PM
Quote from: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 03:15:16 PM

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.disneydreaming.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F08%2FGeorge-Lucas-Disney.jpg&hash=54c214f830582bab8e7a2c8d6ce9e1dc29fdb4d0)
He looks so sad....


Hah! So true! Can't get much worse then what Lucas Industries is making these days any way.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: SleepKiller on October 30, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
Just wrong, just terrible. At least set the canon right please no Resurected Emperor. I mean come on that completely screws over the movies. They screwed up with what they let be called canon with the books and everything.

Quote from: Joseph on October 30, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
horrible news, although honestly they cant do worse than the prequels
You know the odds are they are about to prove you wrong sadly.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on October 30, 2012, 04:47:17 PM
Wow!!! :o It should be even more fun, then Adventures of the Ewoks! :D
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 30, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
5 *possible* story-lines they might go for.
http://updates.io9.com/post/34667628718/5-possible-storylines-for-the-next-star-wars-movie
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Led on October 30, 2012, 05:03:45 PM
Heh, $4 Billion.  I guess I would sell my soul for that too  :whip:
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Helios on October 30, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Couldn't this lead to certain Ideas of new product lines? *cough* Video Games *cough*
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Droideka on October 30, 2012, 05:19:39 PM
This could be very, very bad. Like 15 jar jar like characters popping up all over the screen bad.

Or, the film takes one of two plot lines suggested in the article Unit posted

1) It takes place 5 years after the Return Of the Jedi, the charactors have aged a bit and we can get a new plot line in. The movies would bring in a lot of old fans for every reason the original trilogy brought them in, and it would be appealing to newer audiences with lots of lasers and lightsaber fights. If the film is done correctly, I could see it making enough money to make the top 10 all time.

2) The film takes place in the Old Republic Era, and this gives the team alot of leeway in terms of where to set the story. It could be set in a time where the Republic and Jedi Order are just forming, though at that point there wouldn't be much conflict to write about. It could also be about the Hyperspace war, the events of KOTOR, or something after that. This would be a pretty cool idea too, and it would also be a money maker.

Generally, I think the franchise is in better hands with Disney than it is with Lucas. Lucas was way too involved in the making of the movie, and therefore ruined the prequel trilogy with meaningless crap and terrible acting, and nobody could really tell George that he was wrong.

This will give a very good IP some new perspective, and I think that with the right team the universe can be shaped into a roaring adventure of a trilogy.

Still though, I'll be apprehensive about this until we see some of the plot, actors, and trailers.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on October 30, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: ComSharpshot on October 30, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Couldn't this lead to certain Ideas of new product lines? *cough* Video Games *cough*
It cud be strange, if it will be not so. Probably lot of videogames will be created.
Still, it is shame, but I guess, SWBF4 will be not created, and will be no new assets for SWBF series...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 06:22:58 PM
Oh god...
Could this change the license for using the mod tools and assets?
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Black Water on October 30, 2012, 06:35:27 PM
Lucas films was bought not lucas files, so i was told :D
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Helios on October 30, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
I thought Lucasarts was bought.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: SleepKiller on October 30, 2012, 06:50:48 PM
Ugh let me explain it. LucasFiles is not owned or operated by LucasArts they have nothing to do with the modtools. LucasFilm owns Lucas Arts so when Lucas Film was brought Disney became the owners of LucasArts as well. And LucasArts hold the rights to the modtools and can revoke them at any time. Hence why tirpider was wondering if it could change the licensing for it.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Droideka on October 30, 2012, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2012, 06:50:48 PM
Ugh let me explain it. LucasFiles is not owned or operated by LucasArts they have nothing to do with the modtools. LucasFilm owns Lucas Arts so when Lucas Film was brought Disney became the owners of LucasArts as well. And LucasArts hold the rights to the modtools and can revoke them at any time. Hence why tirpider was wondering if it could change the licensing for it.
So what you're also saying is, if Disney makes a new trilogy of films they can release a new generation of Star Wars video games?  :moo:
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 06:53:29 PM
Lucasfilm LTD.
Pretty much the head company over it all, even Industrial Light and Magic and Skywalker Sound.
Lucasarts is a child company.

I was ok with Lucasfilm owning the derivative works produced through modding, but I am not a Disney fan at all.
I could easily say I hate them for more than the stupid mouse.


-edit...
I'm too time invested to quit for somthing like this.  The formats we use are so out-dated it's not funny.  They would have no use for anything but concepts.
But it certainly makes me think about affiliations.


-edit
sorry for the knee-jerk negativity.  I overthink things and sometimes it takes me a bit to put them into perspective.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Led on October 30, 2012, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: tirpider on October 30, 2012, 06:22:58 PM
Oh god...
Could this change the license for using the mod tools and assets?

No, I don't think so.  And if it did, I would not change :)
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: BlackScorpion on October 30, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
Regarding the plot of the seventh film, there was a relevant post in a thread in Reddit earlier this year.  I posted this earlier:

The main idea in one of the paragraphs: "In short, the Republic was completely and utterly unprepared for a real invasion, from a force that wasn't being controlled by a puppetmaster who was preventing either side from gaining an advantage until the moment was right. The kinds of fleets that were commonplace in the Empire would have been impossible for the Republic to even agree to create, let alone have the wherewithal to actually build. What Palpatine did was take a failing system and tear it out by the roots, replacing it with a brutally efficient, military-industrial focused society - one that could adequately prepare for an invasion of the scale of the Yuuzhan Vong were already beginning."


The comment's TL;DR: "TL;DR: The Emperor destroyed the Republic and built Death Stars to fight off an extragalactic invasion."
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Mr. Banthafodder on October 31, 2012, 01:26:45 AM
I don't want to be a pessimist, but
I'm sure this film will destroy the magic of Star wars for once and for all  :(.
It will just be another childish film with nothing more than action, a cheap story
making use of the star wars cliches and nothing refreshing. And then all kids will be hyperactive and violent.
And then they will conquer the world and that will be the end of mankind.

PS: I DON'T LIKE MICKEY MOUSE!!!

Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Darth Verik on October 31, 2012, 03:08:47 AM
I fear and love this at the same time.
I fear it because it can lead to several things, more ewoks and gun guns, or a resurrected emperor, or an entire serie like Star Trek (i would hate it if it would come to that). 

But on the other hand, i love star wars, the time, the place, the people...(apart from some weird species).
The point is, star wars will continue to excist for everybody. It might be possible it'll be not as weird species as Lucas made.
It might even be possible they will create an entire different universe, a universe before Anakin (for example with KotOR). or they can make it a world after Luke, and start with one of his apprentices (hopefully not another Yoda).

But all of this is speculation, lets just wait and see what happens!
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on October 31, 2012, 03:33:16 AM
Yes, it wasn't catastrophic, when "Space Balls" was maded, as more funny variation of Star Wars story, so, why Disney version should be worster?
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 31, 2012, 03:41:31 AM
Quote from: ComSharpshot on October 30, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Couldn't this lead to certain Ideas of new product lines? *cough* Video Games *cough*
I hadn't realised that they had bought LucasArts and Lucasfilm, here's a quote from Disney and it doesn't look good for console/PC games;

Disney Interactive has moved away from console development recently and the first response from Disney chairman and CEO Robert A. Iger about making new Star Wars games was the following: 'We're likely to focus more on social and mobile than we are on console.'

'We'll look opportunistically at console, most likely in licensing rather than publishing, but we think that given the nature of these characters and how well known they are, and the storytelling, that they lend themselves quite nicely, as they've already demonstrated to the other platforms.'

In other words they're not interested in making console games themselves but they are happy to licence the franchise out to other companies.

What this means for Star Wars 1313 is unclear, but a LucasArts rep speaking to Gamesindustry International insisted: 'For the time being all projects are business as usual. We are excited about all the possibilities that Disney brings'.

We're glad they are because, to paraphrase Han Solo, 'we've got a bad feeling about this'.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 31, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on October 31, 2012, 03:41:31 AM
to paraphrase Han Solo, 'we've got a bad feeling about this'.
I hope we're not going to need the quote from Lando "This deal keeps getting worse all the time."
But we probably will.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: SleepKiller on October 31, 2012, 04:57:38 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on October 31, 2012, 03:41:31 AM
I hadn't realised that they had bought LucasArts and Lucasfilm, here's a quote from Disney and it doesn't look good for console/PC games;

Disney Interactive has moved away from console development recently and the first response from Disney chairman and CEO Robert A. Iger about making new Star Wars games was the following: 'We're likely to focus more on social and mobile than we are on console.'

'We'll look opportunistically at console, most likely in licensing rather than publishing, but we think that given the nature of these characters and how well known they are, and the storytelling, that they lend themselves quite nicely, as they've already demonstrated to the other platforms.'

In other words they're not interested in making console games themselves but they are happy to licence the franchise out to other companies.

What this means for Star Wars 1313 is unclear, but a LucasArts rep speaking to Gamesindustry International insisted: 'For the time being all projects are business as usual. We are excited about all the possibilities that Disney brings'.

We're glad they are because, to paraphrase Han Solo, 'we've got a bad feeling about this'.
LucasArts is still a giant company that had big funds in it's bank accounts and will still have big funds in there bank accounts. I don't see them stopping game publishing any time soon.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 31, 2012, 05:38:07 AM
It was as if a million voices cried out and were suddenly silenced...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: ComFrost on October 31, 2012, 06:04:22 AM
In order for the fans to be happy, why doesn't Disney let us write the storyline?  :shrug:

I'm still not sure this is good or bad yet...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 06:25:15 AM
Now you guys all know me, I was going to go on some giant rant but I decided to just say this:
The Mayan's were right! The world is ending in 2012!!!!!  :'(


[spoiler]If Star Wars is about anakin how can they make another movie when he's dead?!  :blink: STUPID DISNEY!!!! I swear, if they srew up Star Wars, I will forever hate that company. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Joseph on October 31, 2012, 06:37:49 AM
Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 06:25:15 AM
The Mayan's were right! The world is ending in 2012!!!!!  :'(
George lucas actually believes this, which is why he did it
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Led on October 31, 2012, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 06:25:15 AM
If Star Wars is about anakin how can they make another movie when he's dead?!  :blink: STUPID DISNEY!!!! I swear, if they srew up Star Wars, I will forever hate that company. [/spoiler]


Why do you think another star wars  movie will involve Anakin?  Ep 7 was always supposed to pick up after the Ewok party.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on October 31, 2012, 07:59:41 AM
Oh, yes, I think now, it should be a wonderfull love story (Disney done many of them, in lot of fairy tales). Well, we already sow, wedding of Indiana Jones, and Marion, so why now, it shouldnt be a wedding of Han Solo and Leia, or Luke and Mara Jade? It should be so lovely story... :wub:
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 31, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
Quote from: Buckler on October 31, 2012, 07:24:52 AM

Why do you think another star wars  movie will involve Anakin?  Ep 7 was always supposed to pick up after the Ewok party.
Wasn't there originally going to be 9 or 12 films? Although recently George Lucas has said;
"I've left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII–IX. That's because there isn't any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn't at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {YAK}{212}Col{COM} Johnis on October 31, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
Well at first i thought it was a bad idea too,but look at all the new stuff that is posible now.Maybe Disney will revamp the BF3 project or Republic Commando 2.On the other hand Disney could screw it all up(like some of there films).We just have to wait and see only time will tell.Best of luck Disney.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on October 31, 2012, 11:08:55 AM
I personally hate the Old Republic time period, so hopefully they have the movie take place after or during The Empire.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: khy on October 31, 2012, 12:16:24 PM
No more lucas...  :tu:

Battlefront 3... more hope!!  :tu:
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on October 31, 2012, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: regent on October 31, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
I hope we're not going to need the quote from Lando "This deal keeps getting worse all the time."
But we probably will.
:rofl:

Quote from: Joseph on October 31, 2012, 06:37:49 AM
George lucas actually believes this, which is why he did it
:rofl:
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on October 31, 2012, 01:53:51 PM
Here's what someone else wrote on my other forum (may contains words)

QuotePros:

.Lucas no longer has control of the franchise.

.For the first time in a long while we can allow ourselves even a little hope that a new Star Wars movie won't be disappointing.

.Maybe the original movies will be released without the special editions.

.There is an actual possibility that one day they'll remake the PT. Not soon, but one day.

.Lucas can return to the role of controlled idea guy.

.Disney are aware of how the prequels are perceived and how big Star Wars is. There is hope that they will take that into consideration and show a little more care with the material.

.Many writers and directors are going to fall over each other wanting to make a new Star Wars movie, unencumbered by the heavy hand of Lucas. Poor Andrew Stanton, I don't think they'll give him a chance. Whedon is probably running around trying to figure how to do this movie and Avengers 2 simultaneously. Peter Jackson is probably thinking of a way to get out of doing the sequel to the Hobbit.

.Disney have made good and bad movies. They have shown a willingness to nurture creativity. They are definitely a far cry from Lucas.

.I'm not against the idea of Mark Hamill having a cameo, or maybe even more. So long as he is not the hero.

.The prequels were so uniquely bad, it is hard to imagine something worse. And it would be nice to visit the Star Wars universe even in a generic sci-fi movies.

.It will be funny to see how prequel defenders react.

.Now that Lucas has 4 Billion, he can start building a working Death Star.

.I honestly don't think they'll remake the originals. They might make straight to video cartoons.


Cons:

.We are all afraid of the same thing -- the Disney are just interested in exploiting the franchise in the most generic and soulless way possible. We know that they'll make money even without much effort.

.Never say "how worse can it be?" You might find out. Remember how many disappointing movies come each year.

.Can Lucasfilm act independently of Lucas and create good material rather than EU crap?

.It is so easy to get it wrong. Even in the best case scenario, writing a sequel to Star Wars is no easy thing. Think Tron: Legacy. Think Crystal Skull. To write a good sequel, especially so late after the originals, requires more thought and creativity than your usual Hollywood material, or you'll end up with a poor imitation of the original.

.Contrary to what we tend to think, a Star Wars movie might fail financially as well as creatively. Audiences are much more jaded. They might end up spending millions and then fail and shove Star Wars into a deep closet next to all the other failed franchises.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Led on October 31, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on October 31, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
Wasn't there originally going to be 9 or 12 films? Although recently George Lucas has said;
"I've left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII–IX. That's because there isn't any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn't at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."

My understanding was he always had in mind a trilogy of trilogies (9) movies.  The middle first, the beginning second, and then the last, last.   Of course, I think that George has said different things and different times, and it has also been conflicting.  That's been part of the criticism of him.

As a person that saw the original movie in a theater, we had no idea that there were to be any more movies after what has now become known as episode IV.  To say that movie was about Vader would invoke some strong arguments.  I think the 6 movies only became about the rise and fall of Vader since it was convenient so say so. 

Any, what it really means is that this thing will be a media juggernaut propelling itself forward for the next century or two.  Death star roller coasters, Queen Amadala disney princess dolls, ... it will keep coming!





Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 03:48:16 PM
ATTENTION!!!
If you guys haven't picked up on me being a MASSIVE Star Wars nerd then lemme tell you now. I am one. When it comes to Star Wars and how it was made, the story, etc. I know almost all of it.
So when I say that Star Wars IS the story of the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker I mean just that. I have read MULTIPLE quotes of George saying that. The movies are ultimately the fight between good and evil. If George wanted to make more feature films he would have. Not pass it on for another studio to do. No there wasn't meant to be 9 films. Only 6, George had the story all in his head before he made the movies! All 1-6. Not 1-19.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Joseph on October 31, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
I find it utterly impossible to believe that lucas or anyone had the plot (if it can be called that) for Episode 1 in his mind while making the original trilogy. It's like imagining a square circle, I just cannot make my brain do that.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: SleepKiller on October 31, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
It is easy to poorly execute a plot you have in your mind. Have you ever tried writing?

Anyway I am not sure why Episode 1 gets hated so much. I thought it was pretty good last time I watched it. But then again that was years ago my memory my not be serving me well.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on October 31, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 03:48:16 PM
George had the story all in his head before he made the movies! All 1-6. Not 1-19.
Hmm... Only 6 Episodes in Geoge head?... So, from whose head come 2 tv series with Ewoks? I didn't spot Anakin there, but the story still go on...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 31, 2012, 04:29:27 PM
I believe the prequels (being an afterthought) were well intentioned and the big plot points were ok.
The delivery was questionable. Could have been bad actors or bad scene diriction.. any combination of any number of things that go into ruining a story.
But that's just my opinion.

Disney won't change this.

I was initially sickened by the idea of their tradmark Disney-fication of Star Wars, but .. I don't believe that will happen.  Lucasfilm is still Lucasfilm and is operating pretty much the same as they always have, just with a little less Lucas.  Disney just got in on the action and Lucas got a nice check.  I think they would be insane to interfere with the cash generating giant Lucasfilm has become.

And that's all the little mouse (and his shareholders) wants, is to get paid.

Now if this were ElectronicArts aquiring LucasArts... there would be riots....
No one can screw up a good thing like those guys.  It's like they took lessons in how to make things bad.

I read somewhere that EP7 was going to basicly be the further adventures of Luke and a focus on the rebuilding of the Republic.  I also heard that they were not going to stick to eu canon.

For me, it would be great if they abandoned canon altogether.  It would establish that multiple timelines and story concepts were ok. That everything isn't carved in stone.  It would free the fan's imagination again like the first movie did.  Sticking to hardline canon just become a tedious history lesson after a while.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: SleepKiller on October 31, 2012, 04:38:14 PM
Fun Fact: The supposedly bad actors in SW have been seen by my family in other films being good actors apparently. So if it isn't the actors that are at fault the logical conclusion is the director.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on October 31, 2012, 05:02:18 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Led on October 31, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 31, 2012, 03:48:16 PM
ATTENTION!!!
If you guys haven't picked up on me being a MASSIVE Star Wars nerd then lemme tell you now. I am one. When it comes to Star Wars and how it was made, the story, etc. I know almost all of it.
So when I say that Star Wars IS the story of the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker I mean just that. I have read MULTIPLE quotes of George saying that. The movies are ultimately the fight between good and evil. If George wanted to make more feature films he would have. Not pass it on for another studio to do. No there wasn't meant to be 9 films. Only 6, George had the story all in his head before he made the movies! All 1-6. Not 1-19.

Sorry to burst your bubble kit, 9 movies was his idea in 1978/79.  I lived it.  Like I said, George changes what he says to suit him--and you are buying into one version.  I have no doubt that you could find anything to support a particular stance on the issue.  In 1977, the idea that he would even make a sequel (empire strikes back) was extremely novel.  These days, trilogies are the norm--but not back then.

And I think he did have some ideas for carrying the moving to a prequel status from the beginning.  Not the plot, mind you, but some of the things he did, such as having some of the characters be masked, such as vader and the emperor so that there were not tied to any particular actor.

The cartoons were addon material (some may say crap) that he threw together later to extend the franchise in a format that was not as difficult to deal with as real actors and special effects.  So whatever number of movies you think that he wanted to have, he has already gone past that if you include them.  These could live on with a release every few years, like the James Bond franchise.



Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: {YAK}{212}Col{COM} Johnis on November 02, 2012, 10:17:19 AM
Darn buckler James Bond and Starwars Wow your old :P .But your right 9 was the plan.I think it would be cool if they made a movie based on Force Unleashed.But any new star wars movies will be nice.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 02, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: JohnisofLU on November 02, 2012, 10:17:19 AM
I think it would be cool if they made a movie based on Force Unleashed.But any new star wars movies will be nice.
Please no. The story of that game was so bad it made my brain do back-flips.
Also pulling Star Destroyers out of orbit is the most ridiculous thing ever.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sereja on November 02, 2012, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: regent on November 02, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
Also pulling Star Destroyers out of orbit is the most ridiculous thing ever.
You forget, about unlimited power of the force. ;)
I just remember, long times ago, I saw some tv interview, with Mark Hamill, and he say: new Star Wars series and continue of the story, is very possible...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Joseph on November 02, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Sereja on November 02, 2012, 01:52:50 PM
You forget, about unlimited power of the force. ;)
I just remember, long times ago, I saw some tv interview, with Mark Hamill, and he say: new Star Wars series and continue of the story, is very possible...

"The unlimited power of x..." is strictly off-limits in any decent storyline.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 02, 2012, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: Joseph on November 02, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
"The unlimited power of x..." is strictly off-limits in any decent storyline.
Yes it's technical name is a "Deus ex machina" (not related to the video game of a similar name).

Essentially... when a character is confronted with an obstacle and the writer can't think of a poignant/clever solution to it they use a Deus ex machina, which is a sudden unexpected event/character/whatever which solves the problem. You see them a lot in action movies and they're usually annoying (Bad guy about to kill the good guy suddenly gets hit by a car or something).


In The Force Unleashed it would be Starkiller suddenly being able to drag a colossal spaceship out of orbit despite previously showing no promise to have such amazing powers,
it doesn't make sense in the story, it's just convenient for the writer.

Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: tirpider on November 02, 2012, 06:05:26 PM
"Your all clear, kid! Now let's blow this thing and go home!"
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Joseph on November 02, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
lol
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Carbon27 on November 03, 2012, 07:18:25 AM
There is a perfect way to continue star wars! After they destroyed the death star I dont remember the empire saying"Its over! we give up! It could just be my memory, but...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 03, 2012, 07:34:11 AM
I'd love to see a narrative that followed someone within the Empire after the events of Endor and see what kind of shenanigans they get up to trying to hold onto power until they give up and join the newly formed republic.

But they won't because they're stupid.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on November 03, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
Quote from: Josh on November 03, 2012, 07:18:25 AM
There is a perfect way to continue star wars! After they destroyed the death star I dont remember the empire saying"Its over! we give up! It could just be my memory, but...

actually......  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAOX_CHU0JY
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kit Fisto on November 04, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
Super freakin funny! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsK537mAqc

And on a serious note go to star wars.com to find out a BUNCH of news on this matter.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 11, 2012, 08:02:41 AM
It has been confirmed that the writer for Star Wars 7 is the writer of Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kînnjax on November 11, 2012, 08:51:24 AM
What the bloody devil is Little Miss Sunshine? Has anyone even heard of that film before?
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 11, 2012, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: {TcF}=Rick={G}(305th-Infantry) on November 11, 2012, 08:51:24 AM
What the bloody devil is Little Miss Sunshine? Has anyone even heard of that film before?
Feel-good indie film. It was... alright...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabGaaCLZ5g
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kînnjax on November 11, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
Heh... looks.... unique....
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Unit 33 on November 11, 2012, 08:55:57 AM
Not sure how that kind of wrtting experience correlates to Science-Fantasy Action though. Ah whatever.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Darth Verik on November 11, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Little miss sunshine is one of the best road movies i've ever seen! :D great film...not sure how it fits with star wars tho...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Snake on November 11, 2012, 01:36:08 PM
I want to see the whole Yuuzhon Vong series!!  :o Or maybe some New Republic vs Imperial Remnant action leading up to the Yuuzhon Vong.

Oh gosh.. I hope Disney doesn't screw this up. The movie should have great graphics though.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kînnjax on November 11, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: Snake on November 11, 2012, 01:36:08 PM
I want to see the whole Yuuzhon Vong series!!  :o Or maybe some New Republic vs Imperial Remnant action leading up to the Yuuzhon Vong.

Oh gosh.. I hope Disney doesn't screw this up. The movie should have great graphics though.
Snake, Lucas says that the EU will hae no impact on Episodes 7 - 9... which, sucks.
At least he was courtenous enough to name Coruscant Coruscant after Zhan's Heir trilogy....
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Sol9000 on November 11, 2012, 06:18:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. BanthafodderI don't want to be a pessimist, but
I'm sure this film will destroy the magic of Star wars for once and for all  (https://www.swbfgamers.com/Smileys/akyhne/sad.gif).

SURPRISE: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS6PwQcCIXo) THAT (http://www.swbfgamers.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI) ALREADY (http://www.swbfgamers.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA) HAPPENED! (http://www.swbfgamers.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1MqksXm6Zs)

[spoiler](Hey, how come the NC Review shows up but the Plinket Reviews don't?)[/spoiler]

Quote from: Kit FistoNow you guys all know me, I was going to go on some giant rant but I decided to just say this:
The Mayan's were right! The world is ending in 2012!!!!!

Star Wars: Episode 7! See it on TWO THOUSAND IN FIFTEEN!

*Repeated Facedesk*

Quote.Lucas no longer has control of the franchise.
YAY!
Quote.Disney are aware of how the prequels are perceived.
It's pretty obvious
Quote.Disney have made good and bad movies. They have shown a willingness to nurture creativity. They are definitely a far cry from Lucas.
Evidence they made good ones: Wreck It Ralph
Quote.The prequels were so uniquely bad, it is hard to imagine something worse.
The Holiday Special
Quote.It will be funny to see how prequel defenders react.
It will
Quote.Never say "how worse can it be?" You might find out. Remember how many disappointing movies come each year.
Like ParaNorman, and Hotel Transylvania.

Wait a minute, those were disappointing?!

Quote from: Joseph on October 31, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
I find it utterly impossible to believe that lucas or anyone had the plot (if it can be called that) for Episode 1 in his mind while making the original trilogy. It's like imagining a square circle, I just cannot make my brain do that.

Here's one! (http://nooblord9001.deviantart.com/art/Square-Circle-337317076)
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Helios on November 11, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
When Earth ends I'm moving to Kepler-22b (read up on it)
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: RepComm on November 11, 2012, 07:37:18 PM
Quote from: ComSharpshot on November 11, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
When Earth ends I'm moving to Kepler-22b (read up on it)
Actually, I might try living on that "Teth" map of yours...
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Helios on November 12, 2012, 05:00:28 AM
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on November 11, 2012, 07:37:18 PM
Actually, I might try living on that "Teth" map of yours...
If I don't die before completing it then ya sure.
Title: Re: Disney Buys Lucas Film, Episode 7 in 2015.
Post by: Kit Fisto on November 12, 2012, 08:16:32 AM
Is your teth map mirroring the one from the clone wars movie? You should post some screenshots of it!
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