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Title: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 11, 2013, 05:41:33 PM
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WEEK TWO MAP
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Week 1 Results:There are several important things everyone should be aware of.

1. 1.0 and En'ten need to reschedule their battle on Temple for sometime this week. The battle does not have to be on Fri., Sat. or Sun., as long as an admin can be there. In this case that shouldn't be hard since Deagle is part of Enten.

Any future rematches (there shouldn't need to be any) must be made up on the same weekend that they were planned for.

2. I have decided that Egypt, one of TcF's ex-planets, will not be given to 1.0. Under normal circumstances, if a clan forfeits, any of their held planets that were attacked would go to the attacker. But since I awarded Mygeeto to 1.0 and Harbor to En'ten to make up for the Friday problems, and since those planets had been attacked by UEF and 212 respectively, it seems fair to simply turn Egypt into a native held planet.

Therefore the next clan to attack Egypt would fight the admins and anyone who wishes to help them (i.e., the natives). However, the natives may be outnumbered and the attacker chooses the date, time, side, continent, etc. unilaterally.

3. 1.0 still gets Mygeeto and En'ten still gets Harbor.

4. Because they were deprived of an attack last week, UEF and 212 may make an additional attack this week (if they so choose).

5. Numbers 2, 3, and 4 above may seem slightly awkward, but I think every clan that was slighted this week for whatever reason has been compensated adequately. If anyone disagrees, tell me.

6. All mercenaries must wear some tag identifying them as non-members of the clan they're helping, to allow for precise counting.

7. Please see this thread for a tiny fix to the Mygeeto mapinfo.txt. (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=6960.0)






   
Attacker (Side)DefenderMap (Era)Date/TimeConfirmed?Admin (Tentative)


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
1.0EntenRussia (GCW)SUN 5/11Y
1.0EntenCloud City (GCW)SUN 3:30/9:30Y
212 (CIS)UEFPlatforms (CW)SAT 4/10Y
212 (CIS)YAKMos Eisley (CW)SUN 3/9Y
212 (EMP)NativesEgypt (GCW)FRI 11/5Y
Enten1.0Temple (GCW)SUN 4/10Y
EntenUEFArena (GCW)SAT 3/9Y
UEF212Jabba (GCW)SAT 5/11Y
UEFEntenHarbor (GCW)SAT 6/12Y
UEF1.0MygeetoSUN 2/8Y
YAK (EMP)UEFMustafar (GCW)SAT 1/7Y
YAK (EMP)1.0Dagobah (GCW)SAT 2/8Y

Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 11, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
YAK will be attacking Dagobah: Swamps and Mustafar: Refinery, most likely.

We can call dibs, right?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 11, 2013, 07:54:55 PM
Yes
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Black Water on August 11, 2013, 08:05:43 PM
We will be attacking Bespin Platforms and Tatoonie most likely. CIS for both.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Unit 33 on August 12, 2013, 02:17:33 AM
Mappity Map Map
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 12, 2013, 03:10:22 AM
Our 3rd attack will be on Earth Eygpt most likely.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 12, 2013, 04:16:54 AM
Attacking Clan: Enten
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Yavin 4 Temple
Proposed date/time: August 16, Friday, 7:00 PM Berlin time
Era/side: GCW/Imperium

Thats okay for u?  :happy:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 12, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
Attacking Clan: Enten
Defending Clan: UEF
Planet: Yavin 4 Arena
Proposed date/time: August 17, Saturday, 9:00 PM Berlin time
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen

Attacking Clan: UEF
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Jabba's Palace
Proposed date/time: August 17, Saturday, 11:00 PM Berlin time
Era/side: GCW/2 B Chosen

Attacking Clan: UEF
Defending Clan: Entenclan
Planet: RV: Harbor
Proposed date/time: August 17, Saturday 12:00 PM Berlin time (Midnight)
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen

Attacking Clan: UEF
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Mygeeto
Proposed date/time: August 18, Sunday, 8:00 PM Berlin time
Era/side: To be chosen

EDIT: POST HAS BEEN UPDATED AND AN ATTACK FROM ENTENCLAN ADDED
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 12, 2013, 04:52:10 PM
You can't attack Egypt if 212 decides to attack it this week.  If they change their mind and attack a different planet, go for it.  Otherwise, I would just help the natives defend Egypt and attack it next week. ;)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 12, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
Right, i move my attack back to Jabba's Palace.
Hopefully this weekend there are no members real-life problems...
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Dark_Phantom on August 12, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Anyder on August 12, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
Attacking Clan: UEF
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Mygeeto
Proposed date/time: August 18, Sunday, 8:30 PM Berlin time
Era/side: To be chosen
Isn't it supposed to be on the hour?

Quote from: Oven on August 04, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
Battles should be scheduled to start on the hour.

It just seems awkward.  But that's just me
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 12, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Yes, I would prefer the match to be planned to start on the hour if possible. The reason is to pick a convention so that scheduling is tidier.

I'm always making tiny changes to the Rules as people point out things that are unclear or unspecified. I'll post a couple of the latest changes below since they are more relevant than usual.

QuoteIf a clan forfeits, their planets become native held, and attackers will face a team of "native". Anyone may show up as a native. However in this case the natives may be outnumbered by attackers. But there is a limit of 2 members per clan on the native side.
Reason: To prevent the native battle from degenerating into another clan-on-clan match.

QuoteIn a match, at most one-third (1/3) of the players on a clan's side may be non-clan members. In other words, a 2:1 ration of clan:nonclan must be obeyed. There are no restrictions whatsoever on the affiliation of the non-clan players. The rounding rule is: round up. Example: A clan brings 10 members, then they may use 7 mercs.

Please keep asking me questions!
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 12, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: Enten
Planet: Russia
Proposed date/time: (TBA)
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: Enten
Planet: Bespin Cloud City
Proposed date/time: (TBA)
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen

Attacking Clan: Enten
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Yavin 4 Temple
Proposed date/time: August 16, Friday, 7:00 PM Berlin time
Era/side: GCW/Imperium

Sorry but could we change the date and time for the match at Yavin 4 Temple. Friday isn't a good one. We were thinking Saturday or Sunday around 3-5 EST. (last time was just to early)

Can we get the battles and etc posted on the update? Its getting to the confusing point now.  :wacko:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 13, 2013, 02:40:16 AM
Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: Enten
Planet: Russia
Proposed date/time: Sunday, 6pm
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen
___________________________________________________

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: Enten
Planet: Bespin Cloud City
Proposed date/time: Sunday, 8pm
Era/side: GCW/To be chosen
___________________________________________________

Attacking Clan: Enten
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Yavin 4 Temple
Proposed date/time: Saturday, 6pm
Era/side: GCW/Imperium

Hey 1.0, we have chosen the times for the battles. I hope u will accept it  :whip:  :happy:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 13, 2013, 03:44:56 AM
lol, its the attacking clan who chooses time,   :wub:

Ive updated my attacking post  <---
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 13, 2013, 04:09:33 AM
 :o Saturday at 9pm... Kay, i will ask some of my ducks  :blink:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 14, 2013, 03:19:10 AM
Fast reminder: today is last day to update info (if im not wrong)
Ill be adding the rest of info around 6:00pm EST (Sides)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 14, 2013, 03:26:42 AM
Attacking Clan: 212
Defending Clan: Natives
Planet: Earth Eygpt
Proposed date/time: Friday 11 AM EST, 5 PM Berlin
Era/side: Post later today
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 14, 2013, 04:32:31 AM
Thats so bad time for americans to play nixo (althought good for me, since im defending that map ^^ )
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 14, 2013, 05:13:50 AM
Quote from: Anyder on August 14, 2013, 04:32:31 AM
Thats so bad time for americans to play nixo (althought good for me, since im defending that map ^^ )
Yep I know ;)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 14, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
Mart can post prefered times but at the moment here are our attacks:

Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: UEF
Planet: Bespin, Platforms
Proposed date/time: Saturday 17th, 4 PM EST - 10 PM Berlin
Era/side: CW/CIS


Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Tatooine, Mos Eisley
Proposed date/time: Sunday 18th 3 PM EST, 9 PM Berlin
Era/side: CW/CIS

Quote from: {212} Nixo on August 14, 2013, 03:26:42 AM
Attacking Clan: 212
Defending Clan: Natives
Planet: Earth Eygpt
Proposed date/time: Friday 11 AM EST, 5 PM Berlin
Era/side: GCW/Empire
When does the side needed to be posted? Or is there not a time limit?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 14, 2013, 02:39:31 PM
I think all info has to be posted today
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on August 14, 2013, 02:55:53 PM
Okay, then we choose GCW/Empire for Earth Eygpt
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 14, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Okay Jumper and Enten I have the list proposed by 1.0 for our proposed battle times.
Proposed times:
Sunday 9 pm Berlin (3 EST) Cloud City vs Enten I also understand this time is taken but even though its not prefered we can have 2 battles at the same time if there is 2 admins. (Plus they all dif clans)
Sunday 10 pm Berlin (4 EST) Temple vs Enten
Sunday 11 pm Berlin (5 EST) Russia vs Enten
I understand some times here are pretty late but we run into several problems any earlier then 3 EST. If the battles last less then the actual hour (which I'm sure it will) I think it be okay to start the next match right away so we don't keep Enten up to late.

Sunday 2 EST pm Mygeeto: Is Confirmed with us :D

Saturday Dagobah 4 EST vs YAK: I haven't seen times for YAK yet so I just wanted to suggest something and give YAK a good idea what the time is okay for us at least.

Probably the one we can move around is The Dagobah match. We should be fine for a later time if needed.

Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 14, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 14, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Saturday Dagobah 4 EST vs YAK: I haven't seen times for YAK yet so I just wanted to suggest something and give YAK a good idea what the time is okay for us at least.

Probably the one we can move around is The Dagobah match. We should be fine for a later time if needed.

I'm not sure what times work best for YAK yet, but I'll post what I do know.

Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: UEF
Planet: Mustafar: Refinery
YAK's side: Empire
Day/time: TBD

Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: 1.0
Planet: Dagobah: Swamps
YAK's side: Empire
Day/time: TBD

@Oven: Can you update the first post, please?  I need to see where YAK can fit in our matches.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 14, 2013, 05:45:34 PM
Hmm well, i made this cause i was finding that way 2 confusing...

http://www.my.calendars.net/swbficw3

click on the number of the day (16,17 or 18) and create the event
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 14, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Scheduling deadline moved to midnight Thurs. night. No later!

Hond I'd rather not have two battles at the same time, there's no guarantees with the admins. If you want to have the battles take place over the course of 1.5 hours (E.g. schedule on the half-hour, like 4 - 5:30) on Sunday, it's OK with me.

I think the OP is correct now. I still need 1.0 and Enten to agree on times (see preceding paragraph), and need YAK to announce times.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 14, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Unless I missed something, it looks like Saturday at 1:00 and 2:00 PM EST are still open, as well as Sunday at 4:00 PM EST and 5:00 PM EST.  I know people are still working out what times they will have battles, but it would be nice if we could have our battles right after each other.

So, YAK would like to have either both red times, or both blue times.


UPDATED:

Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: UEF
Planet: Mustafar: Refinery
YAK's side: Empire
Day/time: Saturday 1:00 PM EST

Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: 1.0
Planet: Dagobah: Swamps
YAK's side: Empire
Day/time: Saturday 2:00 PM EST
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 15, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
En'ten need to decide whether 1.0's times are acceptable,

and

UEF and 1.0 need to check whether YAK's times are acceptable.

Soon, like, within 4 hours!
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 15, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Sunday 9 pm Berlin (3:30 EST) Cloud City vs Enten (Also switch GCW to CW becuz I made a typo and we chose Republic)
Sunday 10 pm Berlin (4 EST) Temple vs Enten
Sunday 11 pm Berlin (5 EST) Russia vs Enten (1.0 is being on Rebels GCW)

Yak Battle accepted but would prefered it to be moved just a half an hour back to 2:30 EST on Saturday.

Oven I only changed the one time vs Enten to 3:30 EST if that is okay?
I didn't see any other problems I think.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 15, 2013, 07:29:58 PM
Hond, there's a battle at 3:00 on Saturday.  I would rather have plenty of time for a battle, since we don't want to have 2 battles going on at once.

YAK will be attacking at 1:00 and 2:00 PM EST Saturday. (see my earlier post for other details)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 16, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
212 defeated natives (all two of them) to take Egypt. GG
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Black Water on August 16, 2013, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Oven on August 16, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
212 defeated natives (all two of them) to take Egypt. GG
I thought there were three, here's pic
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 16, 2013, 08:22:23 AM
I wish i could have played. It sadly ended before 17.04 Berlin time (5.04pm) ?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Superclone43 on August 16, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
Hey, just posting to mention that the proposed times for 1.0 vs Enten for Sunday have been confirmed :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: BlackScorpion on August 16, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
My plans changed, so I know I'll be unavailable until ~4:00 EST on Saturday and don't know anything about the rest of the weekend.  Probably good after 4 on Saturday, but that could change. 
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 16, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
I have a football game tonight, so I won't be online.  My weekend schedule only consists of homework at the moment, so I will make as many battles as possible Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 17, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
Shazam, do you have it covered until 3 or 4 EST today? I should be on around then.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 17, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
Good game with UEF.  YAK takes Mustafar.

[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscreenshot.xfire.com%2Fs%2F128702199-3.jpg&hash=dd485d01e36cd661ecf64263769dc03db3014de1)[/spoiler]

It was a 3v3 at the start, but then UEF had 4 members, so I joined in and played the last part of the match.  One of their members kept lagging out (Ill_Jets), so we allowed Hond to play.

I really wish technical problems wasn't an issue, but all-in-all it was a very close match.

Quote from: Oven on August 17, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
Shazam, do you have it covered until 3 or 4 EST today? I should be on around then.

Yes.

Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 17, 2013, 10:59:32 AM
He wasnt lagging out, his game was crashing like mine in the beginning. @Whoever made the conversion: n1 , pistol shots were like my sniper shots, rly n1...
Quote from: Shazam on August 17, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
It was a 3v3
3v4*
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Shazam on August 17, 2013, 11:30:56 AM
YAK takes Dagobah from 1.0.  Great game, everyone!

[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscreenshot.xfire.com%2Fs%2F128702414-3.jpg&hash=4489694116365590bf6f5b5d48b4d71d3a0bdf17)[/spoiler]

Quote from: Anyder on August 17, 2013, 10:59:32 AM
He wasnt lagging out, his game was crashing like mine in the beginning. @Whoever made the conversion: n1 , pistol shots were like my sniper shots, rly n1...

3v4*

Whether he lagged out or crashed, we were still fair.  UEF was not following the 2:1 mercenary rule, but I let Hond play because of Ill_Jet's computer problems. 
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: SirPimped on August 17, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Anyder accused me of using radar and asked me to take a picture of my minimap so here it is. He was asked to do the same so I would like to see his.

[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8qET3Gg.png&hash=2035c2548c5c18b81b016431bc4059e66fa2509f)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Chilli En'Ten on August 17, 2013, 11:50:19 AM
We are the good ones(rebellion).
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 17, 2013, 12:13:12 PM
En'ten takes Arena.
UEF defends Platforms.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 17, 2013, 01:41:41 PM
Why was there bleed on other Modded Maps and not Dagobah?
And why wasn't anyone notified about this? (It would of changed the game's victor if bleed was on)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 17, 2013, 02:25:49 PM
212 defends Jabba.

Quote from: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 17, 2013, 01:41:41 PM
Why was there bleed on other Modded Maps and not Dagobah?
And why wasn't anyone notified about this? (It would of changed the game's victor if bleed was on)
I'm not sure, and I understand that this affects strategy. By tomorrow I'll decide what's to be done, but I doubt the result will be overturned.

En'ten takes Harbor. There were some issues on Harbor that I will remark on later.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Black Water on August 17, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
212 vs U.E.F
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: SirPimped on August 17, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
I believe Tranquan: Tech Center (spelling?) is no bleed and a mod map which has been used in previous ICW's. No one ever informed us it was no bleed, but we just carry on. No one has really complained about it in the past.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Phobos on August 17, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
Quote from: SirPimped on August 17, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
I believe Tranquan: Tech Center (spelling?) is no bleed and a mod map which has been used in previous ICW's. No one ever informed us it was no bleed, but we just carry on. No one has really complained about it in the past.
bleed values were customized by dark phantom you can ask him for help modifying the scripts for server hosts but make sure oven agrees with the modifications first

you can easily add/remove/alter the bleed values in the mission lua

The [FC] Clan says Thank You
To it's members: Rage, Sirpimped, Elite, Kishan, Death, Disciple, Fate, Helios, Nino, ThePusher, Daniel, Wolf, Wraith, Zach, Iiscr3m0, Fordo, Darman

You are all winners!!
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
UEF forfeits and gives their map, Platforms, to 1.0.

They will be missed. In a later post I will try my best to explain their reasoning.

Consequently the following battle:

UEF   1.0   Mygeeto   SUN 2/8   

Is cancelled. All other battles today will proceed as normal.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 12:51:53 PM
212 takes Mos Eisley.
En'ten defends CC.
En'ten takes Temple. And finally,
En'ten defends Russia.

There are several things we need to discuss over the next few days, perhaps the most pressing being: my availability in the remaining weekends is going to be very low, much lower than it has been. Practically zero. So, I'm going to rely on the other admins, and probably additional helpers in order to keep the tournament going strong. Hopefully by now everyone knows the drill and it shouldn't be too hard.

But this and more will be discussed properly in the Week 3 thread, which will appear tonight.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 18, 2013, 03:31:55 PM
So 1.0 had to say something on the mercenaries thing.
Here u go the pic
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosMSNDW.png&hash=44d1826faf6eecedbf5c3f4c002599f4f95cbef2)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-3FL8zR7m7co%2FUhFKyPca2wI%2FAAAAAAAAAUo%2Fmdm_o-O0ESI%2Fs1600%2Fentenclan%2Bgroups.png&hash=51793e615c28004f4b33fba9eb2b57acaea54319)


For a faster explanation:
the group with just a dot means clanfriends (NOT CLAN MEMBERS)
The ducks, such as EntenRitter (Black) and Entlein (Grey) means members (entlein is trial member)
So in other words, Entenclan took 2 members, and 4 mercenaries.

Also this might have been done in previous funwars (hope u know what this means)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: DEAGLE on August 18, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
What does that even prove? This screen was taken from a teamspeak, before the match even started.
Posting existing IPs online is illegal btw. You better take the picture out or censor the IP.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 18, 2013, 03:41:04 PM
there are no ips anywhere DEAGLE, please pay attention.
Also i read this from the entenclan forum

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-aYASQxrepMg%2FUhFNTSlx0-I%2FAAAAAAAAAU0%2F8LtLSyVGRqo%2Fs1600%2Fentenclan%2Bcheating.png&hash=45af1ec520bb78a7f19aa3b44d3d5b8cb3dfc8a7)

Its explained, CaDeDo couldnt come to the event today bcuz he had something else to do, but, how did he come to the matches then ? ^^
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 03:43:41 PM
Anyder, thanks for posting. I would like an explanation from Enten about this. Jumper mentioned to me that he had some "counter-evidence" in the form of screenshots. If that's the case then could you post them?

On their own the screenshots don't prove they were cheating. The explanation they gave before Russia started (when you got the screenshots), was that the additional players were only training with them beforehand. It is suspicious though.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 18, 2013, 03:44:52 PM
lol exactly 6 players at everytime ?
Also please read the other one of CaDeDo
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 03:48:44 PM
I'm not sure what the symbols mean but it looks like theres 3-4 Enten members in the "Cantina" room also.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 18, 2013, 03:50:23 PM
lol, and none of them with jumper and chilli, please oven, its so clear
Also i took screenshots as u wanted
Maybe MY screenshots never  prove nothing
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 18, 2013, 04:04:03 PM
That's very interesting. Good job with the pics Anyder. I suppose you can't trust every clan on this game. Also from a battle point of view it was very easy to tell they were in the same Team speak room. Can't be moving all the time and typing so there must of been some type of voice communication between them all. Mercs and Members of Enten. Sad to say there was no way to prove it on a picture. But there looks like to be funny business happening.

Cheat or no cheat it was still a good game. Besides when we all recon spammed each other. lol
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Your screenshots are important Anyder, but they obviously don't constitute "proof". I agree that they are at least very fishy. Translating "fishiness" into penalties, etc., isn't a very easy task.

We should wait until tomorrow before any decision is made, because most people in Europe are asleep right now. As a result I will hold off on posting the Week 3 thread until tomorrow (Monday).
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 18, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Also Hond commented me, that when they were getting a cp, they all suicided AT SAME TIME, for spawning there ---> TeamSpeal
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on August 18, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Ashley Purdy on August 18, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Also Hond commented me, that when they were getting a cp, they all suicided AT SAME TIME, for spawning there ---> TeamSpeal

Lol good idea. but i doubt u can do that all so quickly. If it was typed most people would of probably have taken a while until they saw it. It was as if someone "told" them as one would say. I hope you remember that part Oven. Did they say anything in team chat to respawn before they did that? You were on their team. If not I don't see any other way they could have notified themselves about it. (Oven should be the one to only answer if he saw or not and was hopefully paying attention)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 18, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
We all know they were using teamspeak.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: SirPimped on August 18, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Didn't UEF use 3 mercs and only one UEF member vs YAK's battle on Mustafar?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: CaDeDo on August 19, 2013, 03:13:41 AM
Things can change.

anyder, you are clever boy, but do you really think that the enten got only one ts server?
and that you, as a "söldner"/clanfriend on our ts server, can see every channel?
I doubt that.

And yes, it was a good game :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 19, 2013, 03:27:21 AM
WTF  >:( Anyder do you act like a child!
Believe me, we have no faker in our team !!!  :confused:
Yesterday were only a few friends in our ts! Thats all...  :whip:

@Oven, Nice talking with you yesterday "very intense conversation"  :cheers:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 19, 2013, 03:59:55 AM
Quote from: SirPimped on August 18, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Didn't UEF use 3 mercs and only one UEF member vs YAK's battle on Mustafar?

Ur team agreed on this. In this match we didnt.

Quote from: CaDeDo on August 19, 2013, 03:13:41 AM
Things can change.

anyder, you are clever boy, but do you really think that the enten got only one ts server?
and that you, as a "söldner"/clanfriend on our ts server, can see every channel?
I doubt that.

Funny u try to excuse urself. U said u couldnt come to the matches of yesterday, and somehow u did --> LOL
Also i can see all channels, go to entenserver.de , there u got the TS, and u need no rights to see all channels ^^ Plz, no lies.
I can actually see that the channel where u ALL go for the fw had only 6 guys, and there u got the pic. for suiciding all at same time, u must have had been in same channel, and u say u weren't. Plz do not lie. Lies go nowhere.
I have proofs, u do NOT.

Quote from: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 19, 2013, 03:27:21 AM
WTF  >:( Anyder do you act like a child!
Believe me, we have no faker in our team !!!  :confused:
Yesterday were only a few friends in our ts! Thats all...  :whip:

Lies. Its funny how u wanna keep lying on those things. Ure giving such a lame image of Entenclan to many people, including me.

All those who were in the channel were SWBF players, and u were 6, in the server u were 6. Please show us a proof that those swbf players in ur channel, weren't playing SWBF.

Also ''Believe me, we have no faker in our team !!!  ''confused'' i just copied the name of that ''smile'' its callled confused, u aint so sure it was no fake, eh ? Pretty funny.

Quote from: Carpe Diem Jumper on August 19, 2013, 03:27:21 AM
Believe me, we have no faker in our team !!!  :confused:
Plz, proofs. Prove us they were ingame the real members.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: DEAGLE on August 19, 2013, 05:27:26 AM
Quote from: Ashley Purdy on August 18, 2013, 03:41:04 PM
there are no ips anywhere DEAGLE, please pay attention.

I demand you take the picture down now or censor the IP, even if youre obviously blind.


And to all other people going crazy: A screenshot of a teamspeak about 15 minutes before the match even started is in no way a proof for anything. I don't think we need to discuss this anymore. I know Anyder wants us out of the tournament so badly but since he can't prove that we faked and we can't prove that we didn't, there's no point to continue arguing.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 19, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
u do not demand anything.
Also speak clearer, which IP are u talking about ?

Quote from: DEAGLE on August 19, 2013, 05:27:26 AM
And to all other people going crazy: A screenshot of a teamspeak about 15 minutes before the match even started is in no way a proof for anything. I don't think we need to discuss this anymore. I know Anyder wants us out of the tournament so badly but since he can't prove that we faked and we can't prove that we didn't, there's no point to continue arguing.

We aint going crazy, u are going low.
The pic is from 4 mins before, when U ALL were in the server already.
Well just read what u say, u talk like u did, not as u would have done it lol
I do not want u out tourney, i want newby people to play fair, following the rules, and u to get penalized for not following rules.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: RepComm on August 19, 2013, 10:54:50 AM
Andy, it really doesn't help your case with the incredibly wack signature :P
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Just take the dumb image down so the children will play nice...
You people fuss over everything... Jeez.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: BlackScorpion on August 19, 2013, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: DEAGLE on August 19, 2013, 05:27:26 AM
I demand you take the picture down now or censor the IP, even if youre obviously blind.


And to all other people going crazy: A screenshot of a teamspeak about 15 minutes before the match even started is in no way a proof for anything. I don't think we need to discuss this anymore. I know Anyder wants us out of the tournament so badly but since he can't prove that we faked and we can't prove that we didn't, there's no point to continue arguing.

Instead of calling Anyder names, perhaps it would be more constructive to tell him where the IP that you want blurred out is?

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosMSNDW.png&hash=44d1826faf6eecedbf5c3f4c002599f4f95cbef2)

Better?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 19, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
if u dislike it, dont look at it ?
Also nobody asked ur opinion on this, and as u aint playing ICW, and dont knwo what this is about, please do not interfere

Also that on the IP of enten server, its illegal in ur country not in mine.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 19, 2013, 01:23:24 PM
Here's what I agree with: The screenshots are highly suggestive.

They don't constitute an unimpeachable case, for reasons that have all been mentioned here already.

You can't give penalties based on fishiness. (The following is an example of how not to assign penalties: Determine the severity of the penalty, as a number between 0 and 1, in the case where the evidence of cheating was utterly conclusive. Determine another number between 0 and 1 of how "fishy" or "suggestive" the evidence is. Multiply the numbers to determine the severity of the assigned penalty.)

I'm not bothered by what happened per se (i.e. other than that there may have been namefaking), because the Merc. rule is only in place to control the sharing of members of participating clans. All the "friends" of Enten who supposedly played are otherwise non-participants in the ICW, so for all I care they could have declared them beforehand as acting members for the sake of the tourney. 212 has already done this before in the ICW3.

Nevertheless: If Enten did have non-members namefaking members, they were wrong to do so, and it can't happen again. If you want to declare certain clan friends (who aren't currently in other ICW3 clans) to be "acting members" for the sake of the tourney, this is completely fine.

Week 3 thread will appear tonight. Here's the list of changes that will be made to get from the week 2 --> week 3 map:

212 takes egypt
YAK takes mustafar
enten takes arena
enten takes harbor
1.0 gets platforms
212 takes Mos Eisley
En'ten takes Temple
Yak takes dagobah

Please see the Week 3 OP for the my decision re: the Enten debate.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Black Water on August 19, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
So, who gets Mygeeto?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Anyder on August 19, 2013, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: Ten Numb on August 19, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
So, who gets Mygeeto?
1.0 Clan
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Oven on August 19, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
Please see the Week 3 thread for the final word on the Russia issue.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Kit Fisto on August 19, 2013, 07:49:15 PM
[spoiler]http://www.youtube.com/v/5DmYLrxR0Y8?hl=en_US&amp;version=3[/spoiler]
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Black Water on August 20, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
I forgot to put the 212 vs YAK pic up
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 2
Post by: Helios on August 20, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: Kit Fisto on August 19, 2013, 07:49:15 PM
[spoiler]http://www.youtube.com/v/5DmYLrxR0Y8?hl=en_US&amp;version=3[/spoiler]
bahaha nice kit
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