So, I have been hearing from a lot of the riders of the hate-train for the new Star Wars Battlefront. I still remember having long conversations with friends when we found out the game was being made, and made by DICE. The first bit I kept hearing from haters was this: "OH GOD! I HOPE IT IS NOT A BATTLEFIELD RE-SKIN!" This seemed to be the number 1 concern. People all over were fearing another Battlefield game with a Star Wars theme. This fear is very irrational. The primary reason for this is because of the bad launch of Battlefield 4. Since then many people have grown a hate for the Battlefield franchise. Now I want to address all of this, but first, some history of where I come from in this issue, and where I stand in all of this.
I love Star Wars Battlefront. It was the first multiplayer FPS I have ever gotten. I remember spending countless hours on the map Bespin: Platforms (best map BTW). I eventually went out and got the second game when it came out and loved it just as much. I would play both game back-to-back. However, most of my friends at the time were more into the modern FPS games. So I wanted to be more like my friends who were playing games like COD: MW2. Swimming through the internet, I tried many FPS demos I found. The first was Delta Force: Black Hawk Down. I downloaded all of the game demos in that franchise. They were ok, but not great. I stumbled upon a game called Battlefield 2. It looked interesting enough, so I went for it. I downloaded the demo, and jumped right in. My first impression was how similar the game was to Star Wars Battlefront. The core game mechanics, and controls were almost identical. Since then I have bought and played every Battlefield game all the way up to Hardline.
The thing that got me so into the Battlefield Franchise was how similar it was to Star Wars Battlefront, my all-time favorite shooter. Now, I want to make this statement. A lot of people who hear what I am about to say will most likely disagree, but it is a solid opinion that I feel strongly about. I am willing to put myself out there completely open to criticism. Are you ready for this....
Star Wars Battlefront is and always has been a "re-skin" of Battlefield
...WOW. Now let me explain before you guys start throwing rotten tomatoes at me. It is not EXACTLY the same game. There are several differences, like the HUD, the theme, the vehicles, and weapons. However, the core of both games are very similar. They are both, semi-slow paced games in which teamwork is essential for victory, there are land and air vehicles, an the soldier classes are similar. I use to play Battlefield 2 and Star Wars Battlefront back-to-back, and I can say from experience, they are very close game.
I believe that most people don't know exactly what they want. Because of the fear of another broken Battlefield game, fans are trying to keep Star Wars Battlefront as far from Battlefield as they can in fear of the same problems.
I have also played the Closed Alpha of the new Star Wars Battlefront, and I can say from experience, it is almost nothing like the original game. They only thing that makes it similar is the theme of Star Wars. The gameplay, HUD, and core mechanics are entirely different. If anything, the new game is a Plants Vs. Zombies Garden Warfare Star Wars re-skin. I have played Plants Vs. Zombies Garden Warfare (which was a fun game), and the new Star Wars Battlefront seems closer to that game.
So, in conclusion, the new Star Wars Battlefront should have been designed more like a Battlefield game because that is what the original game was like. It is too late now for DICE to change the game that much, but lets hope they make the sequel a bit better.
Just for the record, I will be buying the new game and playing it. I am not hating on the new game. I am looking forward to it. But it could have been better if they made the game more like the original ones.
Do you agree with me, do you disagree. Leave a comment below. I am always interested to hear what people have to say about my ideas. I am very open-minded about other peoples' opinions.
I will let you know what I think after I play it ;)
I wont play again... again... again... a battlefield/CoD copypasted game.. that will ruin the fun gameplay inspired in battlefront 1 and battlefront 2.. anyway people keep waiting for the new best game.. the new best graphics.. the servers with 400 players.. until the masterserver shutdown and comeback at the beginning.. it is a vicious circle..
I am fine with some old games where I got lot of good memories.
Nintendo 64... AgeOfEmpires..StarwarsBattlefront 1 for example. :cheers:
Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on September 04, 2015, 03:33:45 PM
I wont play again... again... again... a battlefield/CoD copypasted game.. that will ruin the fun gameplay inspired in battlefront 1 and battlefront 2.. anyway people keep waiting for the new best game.. the new best graphics.. the servers with 400 players.. until the masterserver shutdown and comeback at the beginning.. it is a vicious circle..
I am fine with some old games where I got lot of good memories.
Nintendo 64... AgeOfEmpires..StarwarsBattlefront 1 for example. :cheers:
Did you actually read his post? The whole point of it was that the ORIGINAL Battlefront already is a "a battlefield/CoD copypasted game". And that, if anything, the new SWBF is
less like Battlefield the the other games of the series.
Also, a fact I should mention, Battlefield came out BEFORE Star Wars Battlefront.
Battlefield 1942 was released on 10 September 2002
while
Star Wars Battlefront was released on September 21, 2004
I just wanted to throw this out there. Battlefield layed out the foundation for Star Wars Battlefront, once again supporting my statement that Star Wars Battlefront has always been sort of a re-skin. So what people truly want is a Star Wars themed Battlefield game (just like the original). Although, most people are afraid to admit that they want anything remotely close to a Battlefield game. Some people just don't like Battlefield. Then again, I could be completely wrong in saying all of this. If I am, please let me know.
Also, a Star Wars themed mod for Battlefield 1942 is what inspired Battlefront in the first place.
See i disagree, i loved the Pre-Alpha and i own every battlfield since Bad Company. I find SOME similarities, but altogether i feel the new Battlefront is a different game.
That's what he thinks as well:
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 04, 2015, 03:09:07 PM
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I have also played the Closed Alpha of the new Star Wars Battlefront, and I can say from experience, it is almost nothing like the original game.
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So, in conclusion, the new Star Wars Battlefront should have been designed more like a Battlefield game because that is what the original game was like. It is too late now for DICE to change the game that much, but lets hope they make the sequel a bit better.
Quote from: Helios on September 04, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
See i disagree, i loved the Pre-Alpha and i own every battlfield since Bad Company. I find SOME similarities, but altogether i feel the new Battlefront is a different game.
To clarify, I stated earlier that the O
RIGINAL games were like Battlefield, but the
NEW (Closed Alpha) game was NOT like Battlefield, which it should have been.
To open this up to a larger conversation, can you guys think of some small changes DICE could make that could make the game better? I mean small but dynamic changes, like changing the HUD or something. I have noticed over the years that if you change a game's HUD, you can make it feel like an entirely different game.
So, what changes do you guys think could make the game better, but would take little to no extra time for these changes?
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 04, 2015, 05:40:07 PM
To clarify, I stated earlier that the ORIGINAL games were like Battlefield, but the NEW (Closed Alpha) game was NOT like Battlefield, which it should have been.
In fact, DICE themselves stated that they're trying to make it different from battlefield, but, as it would seem, nobody takes their word for anything anymore.
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 04, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
To open this up to a larger conversation, can you guys think of some small changes DICE could make that could make the game better? I mean small but dynamic changes, like changing the HUD or something. I have noticed over the years that if you change a game's HUD, you can make it feel like an entirely different game.
So, what changes do you guys think could make the game better, but would take little to no extra time for these changes?
I haven't played the alpha, but I have watched gameplay and have been following info about the game religiously. From what I've seen/read, the game looks pretty solid for me. Though I'm not entirely sure about the power-up system, and I'm quite disappointed by the lack of a server browser.
I agree. The game by itself is a fun game. It's just that when you compare it to the original game, the first 2 Battlefront games were more fun. However, as a PC player, I cannot get over the "no server browser" plan. It seems like DICE is going to the extreme of trying to make this as far from Battlefield as possible to the point where they took away the server browser. To me, this is crossing the line for PC players.
There are a few pros to this though. With a skill-based matchmaking system, you can have more balanced matches (assuming the matchmaking system works, which they never do), and you can get into the game quicker.
The cons to this is that you cannot join friends as easily (8 player party system only), you cannot play on your favorite server, ping and region issues arise, and map rotation info is unavailable to players
In theory, skill based matchmaking systems sound great, but in reality, it is going to be a mess on PC.
On console, this is a whole different subject. I have heard skill based matchmaking works on console better.
Here is a video I watched this morning by JACKFRAGS. He got a few other YouTubers together to discuss the subject and I found it very interesting and informative. Here is the video if you guys wanna check it out:
Star Wars Battlefront has no server browser - Is this a big deal?
https://youtu.be/xSUrOHXFUG4 (https://youtu.be/xSUrOHXFUG4)
So, what do you guys think?
This will make it much harder for clans.
From that video, it sounds like no community servers either. Well, that is a disappointment.
If that is the case, this game is serving the lowest common denominator. Star Wars McDonalds ;)
If what was said in the video leads to be the final product of the game, then it only seems obvious that this is a release using an award-winning video game title so that profit could be made. That's just my opinion.
Does anyone else find it odd how this game has been in the works for so long? Considering the amount of things they said they aren't going to have in this game (that they included in previous games like the Battlefield series), don't you think that maybe this game hasn't been a priority? Seems to me like the product they keep explaining to us is just going to be a real kick in the pants for Star Wars videogames.
Sure, the game looks good. Sure, the gameplay might be wonderful. But what happens when a game has no community environment? If a community comes up, it'll be whatever happens on the forums.
Let's face it. The producers want to get their first step into Competitive gaming. Skill-Based matchmaking without community servers? Heck, if I wanted that, I'd go back to playing League of Legends. Which is exactly my point- they are trying to make this a competitive game for competitive gamers. There isn't variety in the options; There is simply a game that is being built so it can get carried into the ESL, while EA kicks back and watches all the sponsorship money roll in.
Err, no ESL or competitive gaming would be possible if it is just a matchmaking system with no ability to set server options...you might as well go watch a movie with a bunch of strangers.
I'm not here to jump on the can'twaitforit-train or the hater-train. But I will say that the main reasons for all the same one-liner nonsense about the game being a "battlefield reskin" and any other negative comparison comments is due to the fact of human beings jumping on the band-wagon on what peoples opinions are to try and fit in with the 'crowd,' and because we like to find negative things to say rather than good.
I don't want the game to simply be a rehash of another game either, but like AiRJacobs said, the fear is irrational.
First of all, who are we talking about here? DICE. Dice is known for making cash grabs, and producing quick eye candy. If a big corporation is targeting an audience, don't you think they will try and appease the audience to make their cash grab? DICE doesn't just make games, they study what people are into.
Battlefront reboot won't be a battlefield reskin, it will be eye candy, because that's what DICE knows will pay the bills and bring in the revenue.
Hopefully you can choose to play only with people on your friends list. (And I hope the game has friend lists.)
Sorry, Led. I kind of rambled onto somethings for a moment there. But, it still is possible for Competitive companies/brands to have private servers given to them. Just like LoL.
Wait...they control what servers you can go to?? That sounds horrible..
Quote from: chameleon on September 04, 2015, 07:41:35 PM
If what was said in the video leads to be the final product of the game, then it only seems obvious that this is a release using an award-winning video game title so that profit could be made. That's just my opinion.
Does anyone else find it odd how this game has been in the works for so long? Considering the amount of things they said they aren't going to have in this game (that they included in previous games like the Battlefield series), don't you think that maybe this game hasn't been a priority? Seems to me like the product they keep explaining to us is just going to be a real kick in the pants for Star Wars videogames.
Sure, the game looks good. Sure, the gameplay might be wonderful. But what happens when a game has no community environment? If a community comes up, it'll be whatever happens on the forums.
Let's face it. The producers want to get their first step into Competitive gaming. Skill-Based matchmaking without community servers? Heck, if I wanted that, I'd go back to playing League of Legends. Which is exactly my point- they are trying to make this a competitive game for competitive gamers. There isn't variety in the options; There is simply a game that is being built so it can get carried into the ESL, while EA kicks back and watches all the sponsorship money roll in.
Yeah, you know, I also thought of this. If the game has been in development for this long, why are there so few features?
I assume the reason why it took so long is because they went to all the real environments to get photo scans so the game looks better. Still, I don't think the visuals are all that worth it; to leave out essential mechanics like a server browser and community/private servers.
Until I saw the video, I never would have thought of Disney in the equation. I know Disney owns the right to Star Wars, but the idea of Disney having any word in the creation of the game flew right over my head. It makes a lot of sense the Disney may be the ones pulling all the strings in the game's development, while EA and DICE are just puppets. Well, I mean, DICE is the ones actually making the game, and EA is the one actually publishing it, but Disney may be the ones with the final say so of what gets put into the game and what gets left out. DAMN YOU DISNEY!!!
jesus christ...
I just dont care about that new battlefront game.
I am not like you guys who keep waiting about all new games, new best graphics, keep taking care about the number of players ingame.. and then when the game is less popular , you leave and talk about a new game again .. etc..
I just absolutely dont care about this new game . :rant: :cheer:
i dont want it to be a competitive run game. i want it to be fun. im satisfied by the game so far
Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on September 05, 2015, 12:49:12 AM
jesus christ...
I just dont care about that new battlefront game.
I am not like you guys who keep waiting about all new games, new best graphics, keep taking care about the number of players ingame.. and then when the game is less popular , you leave and talk about a new game again .. etc..
I just absolutely dont care about this new game . :rant: :cheer:
It's been ten years, there have always been new games coming out and yet we're still here.
I wouldn't worry too much.
I'll probably play the new game for the graphics etc, but of course I will continue to play the original for the community we have all built and maintained.
I would be happy if it was a battlefront reskin but that's another story...
I've said before I have no doubt that it will be a good game. My biggest worry is the dlc/microtransactions and more importantly servers.
I want to choose who I play with regardless of location or skill level and be able to have personalised public servers which anyone can join or ones for specific players.
I'm sure that ea will want our money so will be renting some servers.
Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on September 05, 2015, 12:49:12 AM
jesus christ...
I just dont care about that new battlefront game.
I am not like you guys who keep waiting about all new games, new best graphics, keep taking care about the number of players ingame.. and then when the game is less popular , you leave and talk about a new game again .. etc..
I just absolutely dont care about this new game . :rant: :cheer:
I think most of us are still gonna play the original games after the new one comes out. I know I am.
Me too.I hope also to see a people making more cool mod maps.Thats what keep us here aswell :)
I know for sure ill be here after the new battlefront come.By the way i dont like it but its my opinion.
The new battlefront game has great graphics and it has some of the same mechanics as the Battlefield games since it's on the same game engine. The game has a very good star wars feel to it, while I was playing it I was blown away by the visuals and the sound, it felt like I was in a star wars movie. The only downfall is really the game does not take any skill whats so ever, it was pretty easy to go 22-8 on a first game, all you have to do is spray and pray that you'll kill someone. If some one new would of played battlefront 1 online for the first time today, they would get owned by us because Battlefront 1 takes skill. There is also no depth to the game, they're no unlocks to weapons or anything besides unlocking new power ups so there was nothing to really motivate me to play the game more. I got pretty bored of playing of it after 6 hours but that might of been because I was playing on the same game mode and map lol. I'll have to wait and see if the Beta is any different than the Alpha. This game is worth getting but I probably wont get it the first day it comes out.
PROS:
-great visuals and sound
-has a strong star wars feel to it
CONS:
- No depth(weapon unlocks)
- Takes no skill
- only for casual gamers
Quote from: WusiBabyEater on September 06, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
The only downfall is really the game does not take any skill whats so ever, it was pretty easy to go 22-8 on a first game, all you have to do is spray and pray that you'll kill someone. If some one new would of played battlefront 1 online for the first time today, they would get owned by us because Battlefront 1 takes skill.
CONS:
- No depth(weapon unlocks)
- Takes no skill
- only for casual gamers
I know I'm gonna get flak for it, but I honestly don't care about that. Also note that the full game WILL have unlocks, DICE confirmed that.
Quote from: Commander Awesome on September 06, 2015, 10:12:44 PM
I know I'm gonna get flak for it, but I honestly don't care about that. Also note that the full game WILL have unlocks, DICE confirmed that.
You'd also be shocked to know I'm in the same boat.
Quote from: WusiBabyEater on September 06, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
The new battlefront game has great graphics and it has some of the same mechanics as the Battlefield games since it's on the same game engine. The game has a very good star wars feel to it, while I was playing it I was blown away by the visuals and the sound, it felt like I was in a star wars movie. The only downfall is really the game does not take any skill whats so ever, it was pretty easy to go 22-8 on a first game, all you have to do is spray and pray that you'll kill someone. If some one new would of played battlefront 1 online for the first time today, they would get owned by us because Battlefront 1 takes skill. There is also no depth to the game, they're no unlocks to weapons or anything besides unlocking new power ups so there was nothing to really motivate me to play the game more. I got pretty bored of playing of it after 6 hours but that might of been because I was playing on the same game mode and map lol. I'll have to wait and see if the Beta is any different than the Alpha. This game is worth getting but I probably wont get it the first day it comes out.
PROS:
-great visuals and sound
-has a strong star wars feel to it
CONS:
- No depth(weapon unlocks)
- Takes no skill
- only for casual gamers
I played the Closed Alpha and I can confirm all of this. Great visuals and sound, and it sells the Star Wars feel, but there is not much depth to the game and the game is marketed towards casual players. I went 40-6 multiple rounds just doing strafing runs with TIE Fighters and X-Wings.
However, note that I only played the CLOSED ALPHA . Many of the features, such as weapon unlocks and star cards, were not available in the Closed Alpha because it was meant to be a tech test; to stress test servers and game performance. We should have access to more items in the Open Beta when it releases early October. I hope I will be seeing you guys in the Beta, because I sure as heck will be there.
So far we should only expect the game to be what it is advertised. Immerse yourself in your Star Wars™ battle fantasies. So far I guess they're doing a great job. Visuals and sound effects are awesome. SWBF1 was advertised just the same : "experience epic Star Wars battles"
If people are upset about the gameplay, it is because they have false hopes about the game. The gameplay, idea of skill, and general mindset we developped in SWBF1 was not what LucasArts planned. We, the community made the game what it is now. Thus I believe WE are responsible to make DICE's game a great game experience-wise.
Quote from: Syyy on September 07, 2015, 08:58:19 AM
So far we should only expect the game to be what it is advertised. Immerse yourself in your Star Wars™ battle fantasies. So far I guess they're doing a great job. Visuals and sound effects are awesome. SWBF1 was advertised just the same : "experience epic Star Wars battles"
If people are upset about the gameplay, it is because they have false hopes about the game. The gameplay, idea of skill, and general mindset we developped in SWBF1 was not what LucasArts planned. We, the community made the game what it is now. Thus I believe WE are responsible to make DICE's game a great game experience-wise.
Agreed.
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 04, 2015, 03:09:07 PM
I remember spending countless hours on the map Bespin: Platforms (best map BTW).
Oh my god really? I used to play that map ALL the time and I though I was the only one who enjoyed fighting over the walkways!
Besides, I'd like to add that I EXTREMELY doubt this game will be "Another broken Battlefield game"... Or at least not broken anyway. As AiRJacobs has stated, it's always been related to Battlefield in so many ways that they are almost identical.
HOWEVER, it will not be broken. EA Star Wars seem to be extremely dedicated to developing the new Star Wars Battlefront and it will not be any where near undeveloped (unlike FIFA cough cough).
And opening up a Beta of Star Wars Battlefront 3 will not only let us get a feel for what it's like, it helps the developers find more bugs (due to users reporting them) to polish the game as much as they can before release.
Quote from: Syyy on September 07, 2015, 08:58:19 AM
If people are upset about the gameplay, it is because they have false hopes about the game. The gameplay, idea of skill, and general mindset we developped in SWBF1 was not what LucasArts planned. We, the community made the game what it is now. Thus I believe WE are responsible to make DICE's game a great game experience-wise.
Wow, I never thought of it like that. I guess it is our obligation to make the new game popular, whether the launch is successful or not.
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on September 07, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
Oh my god really? I used to play that map ALL the time and I though I was the only one who enjoyed fighting over the walkways!
Besides, I'd like to add that I EXTREMELY doubt this game will be "Another broken Battlefield game"... Or at least not broken anyway.
As AiRJacobs has stated, it's always been related to Battlefield in so many ways that they are almost identical.
HOWEVER, it will not be broken. EA Star Wars seem to be extremely dedicated to developing the new Star Wars Battlefront and it will not be any where near undeveloped (unlike FIFA cough cough).
And opening up a Beta of Star Wars Battlefront 3 will not only let us get a feel for what it's like, it helps the developers find more bugs (due to users reporting them) to polish the game as much as they can before release.
Bespin: Platforms was the :censored:. That walkway; Iv'e seen some things man...and some stuff...wouldn't recommend it.
On another subject, people have no reason to fear Star Wars Battlefront to be broken. The game is soooo big, that if it failed, I'm pretty sure the internet would stop working. Hence, EA and Disney will simply not let it fail. They have pooled an insane amount of resources into making the game to make sure it won't fail. No, people have no reason to fear bugs, glitches, and networking issues. I feel people are starting to worry more about the gameplay mechanics, if anything.
So just to reiterate: People aren't really afraid of the game itself being a broken mess, but rather, the gameplay mechanics not being what they want (full AT-AT control, Space Battles, Server Browsers, etc...).
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Not an obligation, but it is our choice to make the game enjoyable for everyone or not. DICE's job stops as soon as we play and immerse ourselves in ou Star Wars™ battle fantasies. They owe us nothing more than that.
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 07, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Wow, I never thought of it like that. I guess it is our obligation to make the new game popular, whether the launch is successful or not.
lol
Quote from: Syyy on September 07, 2015, 08:58:19 AM
The gameplay, idea of skill, and general mindset we developped in SWBF1 was not what LucasArts planned. We, the community made the game what it is now.
Could you explain what you mean by this? I'm interested, but I suspect the reverse is true, to some extent: The skill-based-ness of a game has a large impact on the longevity and makeup of any "community" surrounding it. And the skill-based-ness of a game is something that the developers control.
It's certainly true that what constitutes skill depends on the surrounding community. But there are more "objective" components, such as how many hours on average it takes to be able to regularly get X kills in a typical public server on map Y, and these "objective" components are what I refer to above.
Well, I mean that we will define what is skill in the game, depending on our approach of the different game modes. If the community decides that one mode is not worthy of our attention, less people will play it, and it will become unpopular.
If we are upset about one specific part of the game, it wouldn't be because it was bad, only because we decided to not like it. Obviously a badly made game will not be enjoyable, but remember, lots of people liked playing in Bespin's corridors because of they affinity with the sniper rifle. The map was huge, but because of one specific part of the game, the community reduced its gameplay to one corridor.
The more I write the less I know what point I'm trying to make. I hope you will understand what I mean. The game is aimed to make us experience Star Wars battles, not to have a competitive environment where we can show off our skills. If we can experience Star Wars battles, there's no reason to be upset. We can be disappointed by the lack of elements that allow us to battle each others in a skillfull way, but that was not the goal of the developpers.
Quote from: Syyy on September 08, 2015, 09:20:34 AM
Well, I mean that we will define what is skill in the game, depending on our approach of the different game modes. If the community decides that one mode is not worthy of our attention, less people will play it, and it will become unpopular.
If we are upset about one specific part of the game, it wouldn't be because it was bad, only because we decided to not like it. Obviously a badly made game will not be enjoyable, but remember, lots of people liked playing in Bespin's corridors because of they affinity with the sniper rifle. The map was huge, but because of one specific part of the game, the community reduced its gameplay to one corridor.
The mode I write the less I know what point I'm trying to make. I hope you will understand what I mean. The game is aimed to make us experience Star Wars battles, not to have a competitive environment where we can show off our skills. If we can experience Star Wars battles, there's no reason to be upset. We can be disappointed by the lack of elements that allow us to battle each others in a skillfull way, but that was not the goal of the developpers.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I heard their will be no single player or campaign mode, only multiplayer. If so :td:
I also don't like that you get weapons upgrades if you spend an extra $10...... not so cool. :td:
But, I will still get it. Ima sucker for star wars games.
Quote from: Dbiz on September 11, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
I heard their will be no single player or campaign mode, only multiplayer. If so :td:
That's incorrect. There's no story campaign, but there IS singleplayer.
Indeed. Single Player has 'missions' which are divided into four types: Trial, Surivial, Battle and Hero Battle. Essentially it's an instant-action mode designed specifically for SP as opposed to just being the multiplayer maps with bots. It's an interesting idea for sure.
Its an interresting but in the same time bad idea.because i would love to play multiplayer maps offline with bots.Why DICE remove that feature.It was my favorite thing from the first battlefront's...The maps they made for SP will be boring after you play them 2-3 times.Im sure im not the one who won't buy this game but if there is no multiplayers maps with bots for single player then clearly for me this game is the biggest fail every made.(Just my opinion)I dont need to wait and play game to see that it sucks.The only + for this game is graphics nothing more!This is just one big SHINY show off.
Quote from: Ginev on September 13, 2015, 02:34:43 AM
Its an interresting but in the same time bad idea.because i would love to play multiplayer maps offline with bots.
They never said they removed that feature.
It never was a feature of the new game to begin with, so how can they have removed it? I like the idea of tailoring the singleplayer experience.
I'm generally against games being released without a campaign mode but it's worth remembering that battlefront 1 only as instant action and a series of battles with film clips tacked on the start.
Battlefront 2 at least had a campaign with objectives but neither are designed to be single player games.
Quote from: Gistech on September 13, 2015, 10:31:03 PM
It never was a feature of the new game to begin with, so how can they have removed it? I like the idea of tailoring the singleplayer experience.
I'm saying they never said it doesn't have it.
Quote from: Commander Awesome on September 14, 2015, 10:11:24 AM
I'm saying they never said it doesn't have it.
Yeah, I quoted the wrong post. Only realised when you replied. I meant to quote Ginev's.
Quote from: Ginev on September 13, 2015, 02:34:43 AM
The maps they made for SP will be boring after you play them 2-3 times.Im sure im not the one who won't buy this game but if there is no multiplayers maps with bots for single player then clearly for me this game is the biggest fail every made.(Just my opinion)I dont need to wait and play game to see that it sucks.The only + for this game is graphics nothing more!This is just one big SHINY show off.
I was one of the few lucky ones who got invited to play in the
Close Alpha. I cannot say much, but I can say from experience that the
single player missions are very fun. I played the only one that was available, Tatooine, multiple times, and
it never got old. Yes, they are
different from the old Instant-Action, but
different does not mean worse. This is however, all my opinion. You can try the game yourself
early October when the
Open Beta launches.
See you all then.
Not all Im not interested by a CoD copypasted game.. :whistle:
Quote from: AiRJacobs on September 14, 2015, 02:09:56 PM
I was one of the few lucky ones who got invited to play in the Close Alpha. I cannot say much, but I can say from experience that the single player missions are very fun. I played the only one that was available, Tatooine, multiple times, and it never got old. Yes, they are different from the old Instant-Action, but different does not mean worse. This is however, all my opinion. You can try the game yourself early October when the Open Beta launches. See you all then.
Alpha players and beta players only got one of the SP modes, though, right? Alpha players only got one MP mode too but beta players get two.
Quote from: Gistech on September 14, 2015, 02:23:56 PM
Alpha players and beta players only got one of the SP modes, though, right? Alpha players only got one MP mode too but beta players get two.
I do not believe I would be going against any non disclosure statements by telling you that you are not wrong when it comes to the Alpha.
As for the Beta, I believe that it will feature the exact same gamemodes and maps as the Alpha, plus the new Drop Zone gamemode. So you are correct in saying this.
Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on September 14, 2015, 02:15:03 PM
Not all Im not interested by a CoD copypasted game.. :whistle:
Have you played the alpha? I've heard no one else compare it to Call of Duty.
Even then, I think you should wait till the game actually comes out to make that kind of judgement.
In truth, I think you don't want the game because it's not SWBF1. And you don't want everyone leaving SWBF1 to play DICE's SWBF. However, I don't think that's gonna happen. It didn't happen with SWBF2, so why should it happen now?
Don't forget there's no mod tools and no Clone Wars in the new game. SWBF has lasted over a decade, SWBF2 has lasted a decade... it's not going to die any time soon.
The fact that there is no modding tools for the new game is the heart breaking thing for me.Actually i was expecting to be like that.After all EA/DICE never give us such things in the past as far i remember.Thats one more reason why they dont make this for fans but only for casual palyers.They dont want people to play this game for long time simply because there will be more games from them which will come in the near future and they want all the people to be ready to buy their latest games not to stuck to some of them for 5 years let say.The fact that Battlefront 1 and 2 survived so long in this years is the modding tools and im 100% sure that EA staff are scared to death from this.WHy?because there is no money profit in this modding tools.Thats the MAIN reason why i hate them.NO BUY FROM ME EA!!!!Never turn to the dark side!For me this game is going to be only few videos+popcurns nothing more.On the internet alot of people are very very angry and im sure thouse angry rants won't buy it,trust me guys i can see it in the...BIG LETTERS! (Evil emperor laugh) :D
Frostbite and the DICE Engine sounds a hell of a lot more complex than the original SWBF Engine, though. How many computers would be able to run the tools? How many people would have the patience to make mods to the same quality as the game proper? I might also add that had SWBFIII came out, there would most likely have been no mod tools for that either.
At the end of the day, that 'angry contingent' is only going to be a minority. I for one can't wait.
I don't think know for sure there are no mod tools, but no one expects it :)
Quote from: Led on September 15, 2015, 12:48:07 AM
I don't think know for sure there are no mod tools, but no one expects it :)
No, because it's DICE.
I'm not gonna let small things like lack of clone wars and mod tools ruin the game for me. I've been waiting for this game for almost a decade. So I'm gonna buy this game no matter what!!! And if there's paid DLC, then I'm gonna buy that too!
So, DICE:
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