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SWBF: EA Reboot by DICE => Star Wars Battlefront: EA Reboots 1 and 2 => Topic started by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 05:01:51 AM

Poll
Question: Would you buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Option 1: Already Pre-ordered it!
Option 2: Yea
Option 3: Meh
Option 4: Nah
Option 5: Never!
Title: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 05:01:51 AM
Ok so I want to see how this works out. I personally hate the look of the new Star Wars Battlefront 3.
Now before you go hatin', it looks NOTHING like the Star Wars Battlefronts made by Lucas Arts, and I don't just mean by visuals.
Yes, the visuals are much more nicer but to me it just looks like another Battlefield game. It doesn't have Space battles either which is why Star Wars Battlefront 2 became the successor of the original Battlefront game. Not only that, I do believe it's going to be an 'Online Only' game. And to place the final turd, it's going to be pay to win. For a fact. Everyone hates pay to win games, especially if they're made by EA. The new Battlefront already costs too much and they're already bringing in exclusives to people who pre-order it.
I believe EA/DICE were exactly the wrong people to take on the making of the new Battlefront.
Let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Sonic on July 22, 2015, 05:24:02 AM
I think we should make our own transparent battlefront game. Like using the existing assets and stuff already made but put together differently.
I will stick to swbf1 and swbf2(space battles only) as I have always had.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 05:28:22 AM
Quote from: Encorn5 on July 22, 2015, 05:24:02 AM
I think we should make our own transparent battlefront game. Like using the existing assets and stuff already made but put together differently.
I will stick to swbf1 and swbf2(space battles only) as I have always had.
That would be pretty cool to be fair. A fan made Battlefront would be good to see. I'd laugh if it got more praise than EA's new Battlefront  :tu:
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
Good luck haha! But seriously, I like the new visuals of the game, yeah I guess they are battlefield like and what not, but that's EA's publishing style. The visuals are actually real life footage, eg the x wings are from real life and scanned in. Yavin is a real jungle. I think it's unique and stuff.

I'm more worried about the DLC and multiplayer teamwork aspect. I don't want a game where everyone solos their own multiplayer experience in the hope you win. And DLC is going to be exxxxxppppeeeensive

Overall it will be a success but won't be great...
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 05:31:34 AM
Quote from: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
Good luck haha! But seriously, I like the new visuals of the game, yeah I guess they are battlefield like and what not, but that's EA's publishing style. The visuals are actually real life footage, eg the x wings are from real life and scanned in. Yavin is a real jungle. I think it's unique and stuff.

I'm more worried about the DLC and multiplayer teamwork aspect. I don't want a game where everyone solos their own multiplayer experience in the hope you win. And DLC is going to be exxxxxppppeeeensive

Overall it will be a success but won't be great...
Yeah, I agree. The visuals are definitely an excellent improvement for sure!
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Led on July 22, 2015, 05:44:43 AM
I think it is human nature to like what you initially started playing.

There are people here that prefer the 1.0 version of the original SWBF to all other versions.

Many here prefer the original SWBF (1.2 version) to SWBF2.

So, no doubt, many will prefer SWBF2 to the EA SWBF reboot.

One thing is certain though--only one of those games will have tons of players again, and that is what I miss the most.  ;)
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 05:55:28 AM
Quote from: Led on July 22, 2015, 05:44:43 AM
I think it is human nature to like what you initially started playing.

There are people here that prefer the 1.0 version of the original SWBF to all other versions.

Many here prefer the original SWBF (1.2 version) to SWBF2.

So, no doubt, many will prefer SWBF2 to the EA SWBF reboot.

One thing is certain though--only one of those games will have tons of players again, and that is what I miss the most.  ;)

Spot on LED, it's a generational thing I guess. Maybe we are just old? Ahah
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Nightwing02 on July 22, 2015, 06:05:10 AM
We should at least give EA a chance to prove themselves. Maybe they wont make a sucky game and maybe we will consider it the definitive swbf. I just hope it isn't a Battlefield 3 game with a star wars skin. But i know we all won't forget the classics. I myself will be purchasing swbf3 on xbox one, so i won't have the luxury of nice players and teamwork in game.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: Nightwing02 on July 22, 2015, 06:05:10 AM
We should at least give EA a chance to prove themselves. Maybe they wont make a sucky game and maybe we will consider it the definitive swbf. I just hope it isn't a Battlefield 3 game with a star wars skin. But i know we all won't forget the classics. I myself will be purchasing swbf3 on xbox one, so i won't have the luxury of nice players and teamwork in game.

Play on PC!!!
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 06:57:37 AM
Quote from: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 06:41:21 AM
Play on PC!!!
I agree. I wouldn't want some 5 year old whining in every lobby, while saying he'll molest my mum, while I try to figure out how to mute people.  ;)
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Gold Man on July 22, 2015, 07:04:11 AM
Hoping I get that and the new Need For Speed, but my odds of getting a new rig before the PC launch will be running slim no doubt.

In any case, my intent is to pre-order that, the full $90 ahead. Need For Speed remains unseen as to a "Deluxe Edition". :P
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Intalleyvision on July 22, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
Quote from: Led on July 22, 2015, 05:44:43 AM

There are people here that prefer the 1.0 version of the original SWBF to all other versions.

Many here prefer the original SWBF (1.2 version) to SWBF2.

What's the difference between 1.0 and 1.2?
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Gold Man on July 22, 2015, 07:08:36 AM
Quote from: Intalleyvision on July 22, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
What's the difference between 1.0 and 1.2?
1.0 didn't have the 3rd and 5th classes (no pilots or jets/droideka/wookiee).
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Helios on July 22, 2015, 07:32:11 AM
I was lucky enough to play the Alpha version of SWBF Reboot, and it is no where near the same game as the original SWBF games. Yet it is so much fun, and amazing in it's own respect. In my opinion this game is better than the originals. From destructible environments to the crisp look of the map, they have really outdone themselves for this game. Gameplay is escellent and the missions/story-line is also very interesting and fun to play. I pre-ordered the game already awhile back, i am looking forward to the release!
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Jamman on July 22, 2015, 07:54:20 AM
Swbf2 was nothing like Swbf1. If Lucas Arts was not on the box cover of Swbf2, I may have never knew they were published by the same company. Dice makes incredible games with high quality, great effort, and no mod support for multiplayer to keep the playing field leveled - they are the perfect company to make the new battlefront.

I have bought several games and played them only a few days each because the community was just terrible. Because I will need to buy a new pc to play the new battlefront, I am going to wait a month or two and hover around reddit for online reviews. I hope its good though.

Helios, just curious, can you pick up guns of dead players? I sure hope so, maybe it will make the "pay-to-win" thing more accepting to another player who can pick up a snow skinned gun and drop their black one. who knows.

Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Ginev on July 22, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
Angry rant:I am true Battlefront fan and i can say for sure that this is not even close to a Battlefront game.I was like omg omg omg when the gameplay trailer was released and after i watched it for 5 more minutes i repeated omg omg omg and after 5 more i was like....hey wait a minute?This is not like anything i expected.Where is the ground to space battle?Where is the clone wars?After that i totally disliked the game.The people who pre order this game soon will cry mark my words.Interesting missions?Thats a joke right?My only hope is to see Free Radical Battlefront 3 one day.I dont expect to play it.Just to see some final build gameplay will be enough.That was the real battlefront,not this new shiny pre-pre-pre rendered garbage.I speaked with one guy who have the last build of FRee Radical BF3 and he told me alot of interesting things about the game so basically this is the true:

FREE RADICAL BATTLEFRONT 3 STUFFS:
1/ 64 players multiplayer
2/ Ground to space battles
3/ Getting your own star destroyer and fly around the map.
4/ Create your own starfighter squadron (bots follow you in squadron formation)
5/ GCW and Clone wars eras
6/ Death star + Executor star destroyer maps
7/ Galactic Conquest 1vs computer,1v1,2v2 + cross-eras Example:Rebellion and Republic vs Empire and CIS
8/ Campaign. (very good story about 2 brothers clones)

DICE BATTLEFRONT STUFFS:
1/ 40 players multiplayer
2/ no space battle,only on ground
3/ No Galactic Conquest
4/ Some crappy half assets Instan action
5/ only 4 planets
6/ No campaign.
7/ No clone wars

Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: Jamman on July 22, 2015, 07:54:20 AM
Swbf2 was nothing like Swbf1. If Lucas Arts was not on the box cover of Swbf2, I may have never knew they were published by the same company.
A lot of members would disagree with you. The style and mechanics of Star Wars Battlefront 2 was pretty much the same as the original. They just removed some old maps and added new ones and a lot more features, including different game modes.

Quote from: Jamman on July 22, 2015, 07:54:20 AMDice makes incredible games with high quality, great effort, and no mod support for multiplayer to keep the playing field leveled - they are the perfect company to make the new battlefront.

I believe DICE should not make Star Wars Battlefront 3, due to the fact that they are making it pay to win. This makes it unplayable and a waste of money to those who can't afford/don't want to buy the DLC. And the worse thing about this is the fact that they ALWAYS make the DLC incredibly over priced. Take FIFA as an example.

The Star Wars Battlefront games made by Lucas Arts were better because they just worked well, and it was all free (except the base game which was cheap). Plus, Lucas Arts support mods. EA/DICE despise mods on their games as a passion. So anyone who mods the new Battlefront would probably expect an 'EA SWAT team' at their door.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Quote from: Ginev on July 22, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
Angry rant:I am true Battlefront fan and i can say for sure that this is not even close to a Battlefront game.I was like omg omg omg when the gameplay trailer was released and after i watched it for 5 more minutes i repeated omg omg omg and after 5 more i was like....hey wait a minute?This is not like anything i expected.Where is the ground to space battle?Where is the clone wars?After that i totally disliked the game.The people who pre order this game soon will cry mark my words.Interesting missions?Thats a joke right?My only hope is to see Free Radical Battlefront 3 one day.I dont expect to play it.Just to see some final build gameplay will be enough.That was the real battlefront,not this new shiny pre-pre-pre rendered garbage.I speaked with one guy who have the last build of FRee Radical BF3 and he told me alot of interesting things about the game so basically this is the true:

FREE RADICAL BATTLEFRONT 3 STUFFS:
1/ 64 players multiplayer
2/ Ground to space battles
3/ Getting your own star destroyer and fly around the map.
4/ Create your own starfighter squadron (bots follow you in squadron formation)
5/ GCW and Clone wars eras
6/ Death star + Executor star destroyer maps
7/ Galactic Conquest 1vs computer,1v1,2v2 + cross-eras Example:Rebellion and Republic vs Empire and CIS
8/ Campaign. (very good story about 2 brothers clones)

DICE BATTLEFRONT STUFFS:
1/ 40 players multiplayer
2/ no space battle,only on ground
3/ No Galactic Conquest
4/ Some crappy half assets Instan action
5/ only 4 planets
6/ No campaign.
7/ No clone wars



Now that I've seen that list, I'm definitely not buying it! :td: It sounds awful! I think there will be more maps though but of course it'll cost you $80 each.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Anyder on July 22, 2015, 09:46:11 AM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
Now that I've seen that list, I'm definitely not buying it! :td: It sounds awful! I think there will be more maps though but of course it'll cost you $80 each.
I assume it will be like BF4. The Deluxe (Premium) version will cost more and will have x10 more maps and more weapons
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: BOB.LION on July 22, 2015, 09:49:25 AM
No, the extra maps are added every month after film is released as DLc that everyone must buy. (First is free I think)
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on July 22, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
I'll be buying it at some point around release as it looks like a good game and I'm a Star Wars fan and a gamer so I can't really avoid it. I have no doubt it will be a very well made and fun game but I also think it's not really battlefront anymore but a new Star Wars FPS so I'll always play the original battlefronts as they will remain unique.

I haven't pre-ordered and seeing a deluxe edition that gives you more powerful grenades is the main reason - that sums up all that is wrong with modern gaming to me so I'll be buying it cheaper at launch and supporting the game not pay to win.

Hopefully I'm proved wrong and they adopt a Witcher 3 style approach to DLC like their first map but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 10:43:20 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on July 22, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
I'll be buying it at some point around release as it looks like a good game and I'm a Star Wars fan and a gamer so I can't really avoid it. I have no doubt it will be a very well made and fun game but I also think it's not really battlefront anymore but a new Star Wars FPS so I'll always play the original battlefronts as they will remain unique.

I haven't pre-ordered and seeing a deluxe edition that gives you more powerful grenades is the main reason - that sums up all that is wrong with modern gaming to me so I'll be buying it cheaper at launch and supporting the game not pay to win.

Hopefully I'm proved wrong and they adopt a Witcher 3 style approach to DLC like their first map but I doubt it.
That seems like a reasonable opinion.  8) In my opinion, they should have named it Star Wars Battlefield. That way, it's still a Star Wars game but it isn't killing the Battlefront Series. I might buy it but only if the price goes under £30.  :tu:
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Gold Man on July 22, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Jamman on July 22, 2015, 07:54:20 AM
Because I will need to buy a new pc to play the new battlefront, I am going to wait a month or two and hover around reddit for online reviews. I hope its good though.
Yeah, after getting hit with the reality of my current jobless status, and the odds of me raking enough cash to buy a decent rig before the release of SWBF, I'm thinking against the pre-order (despite my earlier ambitions). I'll probably wind up getting the game a few weeks/a month after release, which will most likely be when I get my rig.

So much for hyping with pre-order goodies and stuff. :P
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on July 22, 2015, 09:39:24 PM
I think the game looks really fun. Glad it won't have space battles and will be more like the original bf. Hasn't star wars battlefront always been an attempt to make a star wars version of battlefield and call of duty?
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Phobos on July 23, 2015, 02:54:25 AM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 22, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
The Star Wars Battlefront games made by Lucas Arts were better because they just worked well, and it was all free (except the base game which was cheap). Plus, Lucas Arts support mods. EA/DICE despise mods on their games as a passion. So anyone who mods the new Battlefront would probably expect an 'EA SWAT team' at their door.
No way I will pre-order the game if they are opposed to modding, I might not even purchase it at all. Customization through modding is what adds so much replay value to the original SWBF for me, or I would have stopped playing it years ago.

Quote from: Ginev on July 22, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
FREE RADICAL BATTLEFRONT 3 STUFFS:
1/ 64 players multiplayer
2/ Ground to space battles
3/ Getting your own star destroyer and fly around the map.
4/ Create your own starfighter squadron (bots follow you in squadron formation)
5/ GCW and Clone wars eras
6/ Death star + Executor star destroyer maps
7/ Galactic Conquest 1vs computer,1v1,2v2 + cross-eras Example:Rebellion and Republic vs Empire and CIS
8/ Campaign. (very good story about 2 brothers clones)
This sounds like a true sequel to the SWBF series, and with modding support would definitely be worth pre-ordering!
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Rayce on July 23, 2015, 09:37:01 AM
Honestly, I don't care about the amount of content in the new SWBF. The game still looks awesome to me. If I want variety, I can play the first two games. And I'm sure the inevitable hoard of DLC will also hold me over. So DICE:
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Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 09:54:01 AM
Quote from: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on July 22, 2015, 09:39:24 PM
Hasn't star wars battlefront always been an attempt to make a star wars version of battlefield and call of duty?

I doubt LucasArts tried to make their own game, of their own movie series, into someone's game that has nothing to do with Star Wars. If they tried to make it like Call Of Duty, it would have customizable classes. If they tried to make it like battlefield, buildings would be destructible. LucasArts clearly went through their own imagination with the assistance of the information from their movie to create their own, unique game.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Carbon27 on July 23, 2015, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 09:54:01 AM
I doubt LucasArts tried to make their own game, of their own movie series, into someone's game that has nothing to do with Star Wars. If they tried to make it like Call Of Duty, it would have customizable classes. If they tried to make it like battlefield, buildings would be destructible. LucasArts clearly went through their own imagination with the assistance of the information from their movie to create their own, unique game.

SWBF1 came before destructible enviroments in the Battlefield series. (I believe)  SWBF1 was extremely similar to Battlefield in the way of maps, characters, and campaign (I think) and instant action.  The difference is combat, the combat is extremely different.  SWBF1 was a Star Wars version of Battlefield (but I agree nothing like COD) but with it's own original twist.  Though every FPS for a long time has been extremely similar to other franchises so it could just be coincidence of Battlefront and Battlefield similarity.  As they say, originality is only unknown plagiarism.   
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Epifire on July 23, 2015, 11:15:31 AM
Honestly I think the new SWBF is about as close as a new game is going to get to the original. Now there's not any Clone Wars but I think the actual gameplay has the right idea. Sure it's got a lot of added DICE elements, but seriously does nobody remember that SWBF originated as basically a Star Wars version of Battlefield to begin with?

I respect a lot of the design changes, but while it's not completely like the original I'm surprised they tried to keep it as close to the original as they did. I'm personally against the SWBF2 space battles as I thought they were poorly done, and while this current new version doesn't have any mechanic like that present, don't be so quick to rule out them making that into future content, sequels, etc. I see it as quality over quantity, currently what's there seems really solid and I'd rather have four solid maps over eight shoddy ones.

So yeah, it'll be a change of pace but there's not gonna be anything else coming my way for SWBF so this seems like a good start to me as any.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: Epifire on July 23, 2015, 11:15:31 AM
Honestly I think the new SWBF is about as close as a new game is going to get to the original. Now there's not any Clone Wars but I think the actual gameplay has the right idea. Sure it's got a lot of added DICE elements, but seriously does nobody remember that SWBF originated as basically a Star Wars version of Battlefield to begin with?

I respect a lot of the design changes, but while it's not completely like the original I'm surprised they tried to keep it as close to the original as they did. I'm personally against the SWBF2 space battles as I thought they were poorly done, and while this current new version doesn't have any mechanic like that present, don't be so quick to rule out them making that into future content, sequels, etc. I see it as quality over quantity, currently what's there seems really solid and I'd rather have four solid maps over eight shoddy ones.

So yeah, it'll be a change of pace but there's not gonna be anything else coming my way for SWBF so this seems like a good start to me as any.  :shrug:

The thing is though, without the Space Battles, variety of planets and Clone Wars, it doesn't feel quite like Star Wars. Also, you're forgetting that this may be good but EA are going to rob you no matter what happens. It's going to be pay to win which is going to bring a lot of haters upon them... not that they don't have millions already.
But with the rest, yes, it may be solid. It seems like they've spent more than a year in development than they do in their other games so that's a pro. The visuals make it even better. So I may consider buying it... or find other ways of getting it.
However what I really don't get is where you are getting this "Battlefront is just like Battlefield" thing  :confused:
I've played all of the Battlefields since Battlefield 2 and all of the Battlefronts and Star Wars Battlefront feels NOTHING like battlefield. It's focused more on 3rd person than 1st person. Gameplay is no where near accurate. Maybe you're getting it from the fact that it's got Conquest like Battlefield? Either way, I see absolutely no relation between Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on July 23, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
Battlefront is basically a Star Wars version of Battlefield 1942 from my understanding, I think that was deliberate by the developers. A lot of this is because they were made around the same time but obviously the developers saw a system that worked and took the best bits.

Similarities include; The name ;), capturing command posts to spawn, choice of 5 units which are the same on all teams, ability to drive vehicles in battle and the use of reinforcements which drop faster according to how many CPs you have.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on July 23, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
Battlefront is basically a Star Wars version of Battlefield 1942 from my understanding, I think that was deliberate by the developers. A lot of this is because they were made around the same time but obviously the developers saw a system that worked and took the best bits.

Similarities include; The name ;), capturing command posts to spawn, choice of 5 units which are the same on all teams, ability to drive vehicles in battle and the use of reinforcements which drop faster according to how many CPs you have.
Ah I see where you're all getting at now.  :tu: Thanks for that!  :D
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Rayce on July 23, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PM
The thing is though, without the Space Battles, variety of planets and Clone Wars, it doesn't feel quite like Star Wars.
What feels like Star Wars is subjective. To me this game feels more than enough like Star Wars. Also, SWBF1 only has 4 more maps than EA SWBF and no space battles. No one complained.

Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PMAlso, you're forgetting that this may be good but EA are going to rob you no matter what happens. It's going to be pay to win which is going to bring a lot of haters upon them... not that they don't have millions already.
That doesn't bother me as much as some people. It's just how all games are these days. EA is not the only company to practice this. *cough cough*Activision*cough cough* The DLC probably aren't THAT expensive (heck, the first one is free) and they may include some of the features you mentioned above, or at least give us more map variety.

Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PMBut with the rest, yes, it may be solid. It seems like they've spent more than a year in development than they do in their other games so that's a pro. The visuals make it even better. So I may consider buying it...
That's my thinking.

Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PMor find other ways of getting it.
I hope you don't mean what that may imply.  :P

Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 23, 2015, 12:12:00 PMHowever what I really don't get is where you are getting this "Battlefront is just like Battlefield" thing  :confused:
I've played all of the Battlefields since Battlefield 2 and all of the Battlefronts and Star Wars Battlefront feels NOTHING like battlefield. It's focused more on 3rd person than 1st person. Gameplay is no where near accurate. Maybe you're getting it from the fact that it's got Conquest like Battlefield? Either way, I see absolutely no relation between Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield.
Let's see:

  • Both are multiplayer shooters where the players play as military foot-soldiers.
  • Both originally had classes but later adopted character customization.
  • Both have conquest.
  • Both have useable vehicles.
  • Both have Capture the Flag.
  • Pandemic and DICE are both subsidiaries of EA. (though the former closed in 2009)
  • Both have DLC.
Though in truth, these points could be applied to a ton of different First/Third-person shooters. I mean, if you remove the lightsabers and add command posts, is Jedi Knight's multiplayer REALLY that different from SWBF? Gameplay-wise, shooters are all pretty much the same game, with just some minor differences.

Disclaimer: I have not played any of the Battlefield games. I've just researched them.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: WusiBabyEater on July 24, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
Battlefront 3 does not feel like battlefield at all. They did very good at having a star wars atmosphere to it with the sounds and visuals. It feels like its own game.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 24, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 23, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
What feels like Star Wars is subjective. To me this game feels more than enough like Star Wars. Also, SWBF1 only has 4 more maps than EA SWBF and no space battles. No one complained.
That doesn't bother me as much as some people. It's just how all games are these days. EA is not the only company to practice this. *cough cough*Activision*cough cough* The DLC probably aren't THAT expensive (heck, the first one is free) and they may include some of the features you mentioned above, or at least give us more map variety.
That's my thinking.
I hope you don't mean what that may imply.  :P
Let's see:

  • Both are multiplayer shooters where the players play as military foot-soldiers.
  • Both originally had classes but later adopted character customization.
  • Both have conquest.
  • Both have useable vehicles.
  • Both have Capture the Flag.
  • Pandemic and DICE are both subsidiaries of EA. (though the former closed in 2009)
  • Both have DLC.
Though in truth, these points could be applied to a ton of different First/Third-person shooters. I mean, if you remove the lightsabers and add command posts, is Jedi Knight's multiplayer REALLY that different from SWBF? Gameplay-wise, shooters are all pretty much the same game, with just some minor differences.

Disclaimer: I have not played any of the Battlefield games. I've just researched them.

You make a fair point.

Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 23, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
It's just how all games are these days.

Not all games are that overpriced. And not all games are pay to win either. It's just companies who decide they'll go ahead and make the same game as the last game they made/published like EA and Activision. Or companies who are starting off and decide to go full out and copy Activision's Call Of Duty and make the exact same  :censored: mistakes.

Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 23, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
  • Both have DLC.

Both have DLC? I'm sure you mean, in Star Wars Battlefront's cases, the patches? Because I don't remember there being any other official DLC for Star Wars Battlefront other than LucasArt's patches.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Rayce on July 24, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 24, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Not all games are that overpriced. And not all games are pay to win either. It's just companies who decide they'll go ahead and make the same game as the last game they made/published like EA and Activision. Or companies who are starting off and decide to go full out and copy Activision's Call Of Duty and make the exact same  :censored: mistakes.
Well, most games anyway. Forgive my previous wording. However, to my knowledge, the only games that aren't like that are from indie developers (i.e. Minecraft) or are simple browser games. Even many of the flash games on Facebook are pay-to-win these days.

Honestly though, I don't like using the above term, because in my experience (see what I did there?) the "premium" stuff is never that much better than the normal stuff, and is not necessary to win. Ultimately, it still just boils down to the skill of the player. Trust me, I've played (and STILL play) SWTOR, which is often used as an example of those practices.
Quote from: TheGangstarTY on July 24, 2015, 04:56:32 PM
Both have DLC? I'm sure you mean, in Star Wars Battlefront's cases, the patches? Because I don't remember there being any other official DLC for Star Wars Battlefront other than LucasArt's patches.
The 1.2 patch for SWBF1 on PC included a Jabba's Palace map in addition to the multiplayer tweaks. SWBF2 had an Xbox-exclusive DLC which added Bespin: Cloud City and Yavin 4: Arena, with Kit Fisto and Asajj Ventress as additional heroes.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Giftheck on July 25, 2015, 01:24:30 AM
I'll buy Star Wars: Battlefront. However, I will never buy Star Wars: Battlefront 3, because that game will never, ever, ever, ever, EVER be released.  :P

(People seem to forget this is not SWBF3, even if it is the third console title with that name.)
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 25, 2015, 03:07:51 AM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 24, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
The 1.2 patch for SWBF1 on PC included a Jabba's Palace map in addition to the multiplayer tweaks. SWBF2 had an Xbox-exclusive DLC which added Bespin: Cloud City and Yavin 4: Arena, with Kit Fisto and Asajj Ventress as additional heroes.

Oh that's what the patch did! I sort of wondered, when I switched from PlayStation 2 Star Wars Battlefront to PC Star Wars Battlefront, why PC had, what looked like at the time, an exclusive Jabba's Palace. Although for me, even since the PlayStation 2 disk which I got in 2005, I've ALWAYS has Bespin: Cloud City and Yavin 4: Arena so I guess that's why I would've assumed there wasn't DLC for Star Wars Battlefront.

However, I have never seen Kit Fisto or Asajj Ventress as heroes in Star Wars Battlefront, even on PC. Unless them heroes are genuinely exclusive only for Xbox 360? Because I've never seen them.

PS: The reason I may not have noticed some of these until later on was because I switched from the PlayStation 2 version of the game to the PC version was later on in 2009.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Rayce on July 25, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
Cloud City and Arena are shipped maps in SWBF1, but not in SWBF2. The second DLC I mentioned is for SWBF2, not SWBF1. And yes, it is Xbox only.  (Though modding has corrected that: http://www.gametoast.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=23377) Also, all re-releases of SWBF1 (i.e Fan Favorites 1) come with the v1.2 patch already installed.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 25, 2015, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 25, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
Cloud City and Arena are shipped maps in SWBF1, but not in SWBF2. The second DLC I mentioned is for SWBF2, not SWBF1. And yes, it is Xbox only.  (Though modding has corrected that: http://www.gametoast.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=23377) Also, all re-releases of SWBF1 (i.e Fan Favorites 1) come with the v1.2 patch already installed.
Ah sorry. I didn't notice you was talking about SWBF2 when you mentioned Xbox 360 exclusives. My bad  ;)
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: Rayce on July 26, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Original Xbox, not 360.
Title: Re: Who's going to buy Star Wars Battlefront 3?
Post by: TheGangstarTY on July 26, 2015, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on July 26, 2015, 04:31:33 PM
Original Xbox, not 360.
It's on Xbox 360 too though isn't it? Oh... wait... I just remembered the fact that you can play the Original Xbox's games on the 360. Sorry  ;)
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