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Title: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
I was finally convinced to use newegg to make a computer but i kinda need a list of the materials needed. I know your need a processor and graphic card but that's about it ;P
I think ill need a liquid cooling thing or something because the processor I want to get is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=intel_i7_980x-_-19-115-223-_-Product (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=intel_i7_980x-_-19-115-223-_-Product)
Any help would be greatly appreciated =)
btw: What is overclocking?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 05, 2010, 09:16:45 PM
Rex, why do you want to get a processor that powerful? Are you running the entire US government computer network from one machine?

You may want to start here... http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19159 (http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19159)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
Im a secret spy ^^
But im just getting this because i dont want to have to buy a new computer until i go to college.
Ill check out the link now ^^
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 05, 2010, 09:26:19 PM
Rex you don't need anything close to that fast of a.computer. go for a nice quad core and focus on a decent graphics card if you are wanting to play games. I mean...I didn't even know they had 6 core processors yet for the consumer market...
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:31:04 PM
6 cores sounds like a nice round number though unlike 4  :sick:
Besides games use processors not graphic cards more silly  :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 05, 2010, 09:38:20 PM
There is alot to learn about what you want. What do you want to get out of the pc you are picturing here? Do you have a good amount of money to cover all the parts? I like the idea you placed about how games use processors and stuff. I wonder where it can be verified.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Wild on July 05, 2010, 09:39:28 PM
http://compreviews.about.com/od/cpus/l/aaOverclock.htm (http://compreviews.about.com/od/cpus/l/aaOverclock.htm)


"Many people probably don't know what overclocking is but have possibly heard the term used before. To put it in its simplest terms, overclocking is taking a computer component such as a processor and running at a specification higher than rated by the manufacturer. Every part produced by companies such as Intel and AMD are rated for a specific speeds. They have tested the capabilities of the part and certified it for that given speed. Of course, most parts are underrated for increased reliability. Overclocking a part simply takes advantage of the remaining potential out of a computer part that the manufacturer is unwilling to certify"

Basically means if you have some graphics card, you can overclock it to make it better. You have to be careful though because you can mess up whatever your overclocking easily if you set it too high. I don't know how to do it, but I know what it is   8)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 05, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Most games aren't actually good for multi-core processors. THose are only useful for performance applications like rendering movies or models, animation, and image editing. Games will run just as good, if not better, on a quad core than a hex core. Graphics card is most important when you want gaming performance.

Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:48:32 PM
Thanks Wild =)
@Jk: Why wouldnt games be able to run on tetracores?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 05, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
They aren't designed for the architecture, and games can't take advantage of multiple cores if they aren't coded to do so. Most newer games are getting better at it, but the older games are not engineered for the multiple-core processors.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 05, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
Red is probably better than me at answering this but video games are becoming more and more dependant on GPUs nowadays. Don't worry Rex, a quad core processor won't be obselete anytime soon.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:54:14 PM
I could still run games on a 6 core computer though right?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 05, 2010, 09:58:48 PM
Most certainly. I'm just saying that it is not absolutely necessary to have one.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 06, 2010, 04:46:42 AM
Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:31:04 PM
6 cores sounds like a nice round number though unlike 4  :sick:
Besides games use processors not graphic cards more silly  :P

Just like when we all heard about the brand new 233 MHz PowerPC Processor. It was a rocket!

But no seriously, there's no need for a 6-core processor by today's standards and that isn't going to change for quite some time.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 06, 2010, 08:00:06 AM
besides, games today are optimized for Dual Core Processors arent they?

Recently on Engadget they had an interview with the CEO of Intel where he was discussing a *fued* between him and NVIDIA. In that fued he made the response that GPU nowadays can *only* process data 10x faster than his core i7 CPUs. Sad day when a CEO brags about being 10x slower than other hardware makers isnt it?

i tell ya what, if you want some real gaming id say go buy a nice Graphics card, some allow you to game in HD and a more life like experience.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 06, 2010, 04:44:01 PM
Not necessary, but how much money does he have to spend on the pc he talks about. I remeber 1000. for that processor alone. Rex, Do you want to spend all the money needed to build the pc you talk about?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 06, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
he doesnt, its only 1000$ because the processor he wants is....ridiculously fast.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 06, 2010, 06:15:01 PM
lol I have the money to buy it ;P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 06, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
well if you plan on paying a thousand dollars on just 1 component in your computer i fear what you overall cost is going to be.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 06, 2010, 06:48:39 PM
If you have that much money you should spend it on us instead of on a computer you will use 5% of running Crysis :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 06, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
true that jedi. My computer can run crysis on medium and my mac is no where near what rex's "expectations" are.

Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 06, 2010, 06:15:01 PM
lol I have the money to buy it ;P

u be trollin :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 06, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Very true jedikiller. For some to give an amount of money is easy and for others not so. This conversation could move in a new direction. We can explain to rex the difference between game needs and web site costs.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 06, 2010, 09:01:46 PM
Sorry cull, we probably need to get back on topic. The fact is that Rex is looking to build a comp :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 06, 2010, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Meicull on July 06, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Very true jedikiller. For some to give an amount of money is easy and for others not so. This conversation could move in a new direction. We can explain to rex the difference between game needs and web site costs.

Relevance?? Since when did Rex say he wanted a website?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 06, 2010, 10:20:25 PM
Just remember, your spending $1000 dolalrs on a processor for a computer that you are building yourself. Just a little static at the wrong time will kill your uber-processor. So you can either buy a six core comp from another site or you can
not screw up!!!!!!.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 06, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
Correct. Try taking apart a simple pc and putting it back together again over and over to see how the process works before you try never before attempted methods.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 07:12:00 AM
Quote from: Meicull on July 06, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
Correct. Try taking apart a simple pc and putting it back together again over and over to see how the process works before you try never before attempted methods.

The point is that Rex doesnt need a "6-Core" Intel Processor to run a game. Heck! that processor would be redundant in Crysis. You should go with a Quad Core processor and a nice GPU and you will be set to play any games that come now and in the future  ;)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 07, 2010, 07:36:31 AM
I would suggest spending more money on  a GPU, AMD quad cores are less expensive than core i7 and can deliver the power you need to play any of today's games.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
word jon. (bringing back the 80's)

definetly focus on a GPU since games are more and more graphic demanding.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 07, 2010, 01:04:48 PM
And a GPU is the graphic card?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 07, 2010, 01:05:06 PM
Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
GPU=Graphics processing unit=Graphics card :)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 07, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
Quotei kinda need a list of the materials needed.
List of materials you need:
1. Case
2. CPU
3. GPU
4. Power Supply
5. Hard Drive
6. DVD Drive
7. Ask Red :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: Jon415 on July 07, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
List of materials you need:
1. Case
2. CPU
3. GPU
4. Power Supply
5. Hard Drive
6. DVD Drive
7. Ask Red :P

8. RAM
9. Motherboard
10. NIC card
11. sound card
12. ask red again


SORRY DOUBLE POST.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jedikiller on July 07, 2010, 06:02:50 PM
Split topic. Please try to stay at least somewhat on topic.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 07, 2010, 06:23:54 PM
It is not confirmed because I dont have the money to test wheather or not hardware is the key or simple xp sofware and drivers. Rex has money to build a computer and I ask if he saw my post. (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=2598.msg28546#msg28546)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
btw: What is overclocking?

ok back on topic.

overclocking refers to a Processor that is running at a speed higher than what it was designed for or specified when you computer was sent to you. What some people will do is purchase low end stuff to go in their comps then they will overclock them.

when overclocking you may wanna look out for Cooling and making sure it stills run like it should.

Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Rexy on July 07, 2010, 06:31:03 PM
I dont see what the modding thing would do to help lol
Everyone here says Red would be the most helpful here so maybe we could lock this until Red gets back so he can help me better? No offense to everyone else but you guys said Red would be the most helpful lol ;P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 07, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
I will keep searching for a friend that will. Red will be back to help you soon.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 07, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
No need to lock, we'll just give you our best advice and then when red comes back he can help you further.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 07, 2010, 07:10:58 PM
Nicee. Rex, do you still want our best advice till red comes back? I can steer mine away from modding swbf1 in seconds knowing you response.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 10:04:01 PM
ok heres the low down.

1.Quad core CPU

2.great GPU

3.at least 4GB of RAM

4.and everything else

there ya go
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 08, 2010, 12:44:32 AM
That is correct soap has a good line on the parts needed. I tend to side on color and theme of a case and parts. I like flash and mirrors in a case. Rex, what do you like?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 08, 2010, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: Soap Mactavish on July 07, 2010, 10:04:01 PM
ok heres the low down.

1.Quad core CPU

2.great GPU

3.at least 4GB of RAM

4.and everything else

there ya go

OS. Never forget operating system. Adds at least $100 dollars to your computer, possibly $200. Go with win7
Oh yea and you need a motherboard. And a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, unless you already have.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 08, 2010, 07:06:40 PM
In actuality I'm sure there are several more components but I'm just naming the popular ones
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 10, 2010, 11:00:36 PM
This is what I like. What kind of pc where you thinking of building? (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=1165.msg14638#msg14638)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 10, 2010, 11:39:20 PM
Based on his *tetra* core CPU I am guessing a high grade gaming rig. Probably could play 6 seperate games of swbf at the same time xD
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 11, 2010, 12:31:30 PM
Quote from: Soap Mactavish on July 10, 2010, 11:39:20 PM
Based on his *tetra* core CPU I am guessing a high grade gaming rig. Probably could play 6 seperate games of swbf at the same time xD

It's not a high grade gaming rig, it's a high grade movie-making rig. There's no point to overkill your CPU, overkill your GPU instead.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 11, 2010, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: ag on July 11, 2010, 12:31:30 PM
It's not a high grade gaming rig, it's a high grade movie-making rig. There's no point to overkill your CPU, overkill your GPU instead.


know any good 1000$ GPUs ag?  :P
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 11, 2010, 12:51:24 PM
ATI Radeon 5970 4GB with CrossfireX dual cards.  $1000 dollars each. Requires something like a 1200 watt power supply.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 11, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
great find jon. Rex, go out and buy yourself a 1000$ GPU. Then go buy a nice, overpriced Intel Quad core coupled with loads of RAM. then your set.  ;)

Dont forget the HD display while ur at it.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 11, 2010, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Soap Mactavish on July 11, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
Dont forget the HD display while ur at it.

If you're made of money, go ahead and buy four HD displays. You can link them up or something where they are all connected or whatever.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 11, 2010, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: Jon415 on July 11, 2010, 12:51:24 PM
ATI Radeon 5970 4GB with CrossfireX dual cards.  $1000 dollars each. Requires something like a 1200 watt power supply.

The Radeon 5970 is sex. I could only dream of owning that card.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 11, 2010, 01:00:29 PM
So true......
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 11, 2010, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: ag on July 11, 2010, 12:59:39 PM
The Radeon 5970 is sex.


lol wut?  :slap:

scratch that.

Microsoft DirectX 11 support HDCP compliant ATI CrossFireX technology Dual-link DVI support ATI PowerPlay technology

that is sex.  ;)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 11, 2010, 10:00:22 PM
I can't wait to see if this comes to reality for him. You guys are finding good stuff.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 12, 2010, 07:48:38 AM
wait-were going a little overboard with how much money would be spent-$3,000 on the graphics cards and processor alone.

Rex, how much money do you have to spend?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 12, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
Rex isn't getting that processor.

Then again, I doubt he even looks at the topic anymore
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 12, 2010, 06:22:40 PM
 ??? Rex if your posting a topic about your own computer you might wanna check on it once in a while....
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 12, 2010, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: Jon415 on July 12, 2010, 06:22:40 PM
??? Rex if your posting a topic about your own computer you might wanna check on it once in a while....

Quote from: Soap Mactavish on July 12, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
I doubt he even looks at the topic anymore
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 12, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
nice post ag
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 12, 2010, 10:11:39 PM
I hope rex comes back. I have turned into a Radeon fan.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 13, 2010, 04:55:23 AM
ill lure him back with promises of BD's awesome sigs
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 13, 2010, 05:22:23 AM
I am still no where near his choice for a 1000 dollar cpu. One would think he would want a higher price motherboard than the one I placed in that link. (http://www.mpcgamers.com/smf/index.php?topic=1165.msg14638#msg14638)
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 13, 2010, 05:29:53 AM
if he is going for 1000$ GPUs then more than 1 slot is likely to be taken up
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 13, 2010, 05:48:57 AM
That link is as crazy for Radeon I can get.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Soap Mactavish on July 13, 2010, 05:54:51 AM
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5970/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5970-overview.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5970/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5970-overview.aspx)

i believe that is what all of you are looking for
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: aeria. on July 13, 2010, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: Soap Mactavish on July 12, 2010, 08:25:46 AM
I doubt he even looks at the topic anymore
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Xfire Keenmike aka cull on July 13, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 05, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 06, 2010, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: WusiSs.Rexy on July 07, 2010, 06:31:03 PM
maybe we could lock this until Red gets back
I am sure rex will get help.
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Jon415 on July 13, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
Whats up with the two blank quotes?
Title: Re: Building a computer
Post by: Hardcore on July 13, 2010, 11:08:21 PM
Because nothing helpful has really been said recently, locked until further notice.
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