Week 2 Results:
- 212 takes Yavin IV
212 defends Kashyyyk - FC defends Coruscant
FC takes Tranquaan
FC takes Bespin
FC takes Endor
FC defends Rhen Var
FC defends Eddie's Kastel - YAK defends Earth
ELK has been
eliminated; ELK members may still participate in battles in accordance with the 2:1 rule.
Wookieland has been replaced by Onderon: Dxun Moon which may be downloaded here (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=293).Current Tournament Map Is Here[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5867.0;attach=1896;image)[/spoiler]
ICW2 calendar (updated as information comes in) (http://www.my.calendars.net/icwoven)Tournament Rules (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=5775.0)
ICW Mod Map Pack (7z)
(http://www.mediafire.com/?gvu4hkbcypaeodo)
ICW Mod Map Pack (rar)
(http://www.mediafire.com/?pxhatr9lri2wa86)
Please announce your battles by midnight CST on Tuesday, and finalize your times/dates by midnight CST on Thursday. Battles should be scheduled for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.
Please note: Each clan may attack 1 Large planet and 2 Small planets per week.
The battle announcements must take the following form:
Attacking clan:
Defending clan:
Planet:
Proposed date and time of battle:
Attacker side: (If attacking a small planet)
Responses should include the following information:
Defender side: (If defending large planet)
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Dantooine
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 4PM
Attacker side: Empire
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: 212
Planet: Tatooine
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 5PM
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Mustafar
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 6PM
Attacker side: Empire
Gdh if there are any of these battles or timezones you would like ill change them :P
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Rhen Var Harbour then Citadel
Proposed date and time of battle: 3pm EST Sunday
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Kamino
Proposed date and time of battle: 3pm EST Friday
Attacker side: Republic
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Tranqaan
Proposed date and time of battle: 1pm est Friday
Attacker side: Empire
how many admins are there ?
Bcuz waiting 20 mins for an admin is a shame...
who are they ?
Here are YAKs plans;
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: 212
Planet: Yavin: Arena
Proposed date and time of battle: Friday 2EST
Attacker side: Rebels
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Bespin
Proposed date and time of battle: Sunday 2EST
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Endor
Proposed date and time of battle:Sunday 1EST
Attacker side: Empire
YAK chooses Empire for the Earth match.
I'm assuming ELK are out and can take no further part. Thanks to all the ELK who took part, I hope you enjoyed the matches.
Quote from: {212} Nixo on December 30, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
Gdh if there are any of these battles or timezones you would like ill change them :P
Thanks but without ELK, there's plenty of room in the galaxy now. :)
If I made yet more mistakes this week let me know please. :)
Edit; I had made a mistake - fixed now.
Quote from: Immor†al Anyder on December 31, 2012, 03:48:58 AM
how many admins are there ?
Bcuz waiting 20 mins for an admin is a shame...
who are they ?
I will try my hardest to come to this weeks matches, but I have no guarantees. :(
This is a busy time of year for me.
I believe the admins are Oven, BS, and I. Wild and Jamman were supposed to admin but they haven't showed to any battles yet.
Elk has been elimanted?
I think so they have no planets left...
The remaining ELK members will just have to play with YAK, I guess. It's a shame they're eliminated...
Apologies for failing to note the demise of ELK; please note that ELK members may still participate in the tournament in accordance with the 2:1 rule (and are encouraged to do so).
Clan reps, please post the sides for the following planets:212: Tatooine
FC: Bespin
Quote from: Aɢᴇɴᴛ Z on December 31, 2012, 07:49:46 AM
I believe the admins are Oven, BS, and I. Wild and Jamman were supposed to admin but they haven't showed to any battles yet.
Neither Jamman nor Wild were signed on to admin for this tournament. The busiest 2 weeks are over for me, so expect less admin problems.
gdh has been unofficially "subbing" as an admin from time to time; thanks a lot!
Happy New Year!
Quote from: Oven on December 31, 2012, 07:10:52 PM
Clan reps, please post the sides for the following planets:
212: Tatooine
FC: Bespin
For platforms, FC would like to be Droids. And on Cloud city, we prefer Rebels.
Quote from: Phobos on December 31, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
For platforms, FC would like to be Droids. And on Cloud city, we prefer Rebels.
Mos 212 would like CIS and for Jabba we would like Rebels
Here's the third map.
I like how the map looks right now :P
FC's Maps : 8
YAK's Maps : 5
212's Maps : 3
Is this right ?
Quote from: Immor†al Anyder on January 02, 2013, 06:17:58 AM
FC's Maps : 8
YAK's Maps : 5
212's Maps : 3
Is this right ?
yup
Can 212 change our attack to Earth to Rhen Var? I didnt see we werent connected :P
Quote from: {212} Nixo on January 02, 2013, 09:28:38 AM
Can 212 change our attack to Earth to Rhen Var? I didnt see we werent connected :P
Sure
Oven, can u update the calendar ?
I wanna know who im gonna fight this weekend.
Calendar Updated. (http://www.my.calendars.net/icwoven/) I'll need FC's side choices for Rhen Var.
Friday:
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Tranqaan
Proposed date and time of battle: 1pm est Friday
Attacker side: Empire
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: 212
Planet: Yavin: Arena
Proposed date and time of battle: Friday 2EST
Attacker side: Rebels
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Kamino
Proposed date and time of battle: 3pm EST Friday
Attacker side: Republic
Saturday:
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Dantooine
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 4PM
Attacker side: Empire
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: 212
Planet: Tatooine
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 5PM
Defender sides: CIS for Mos, Rebels for Jabba
Attacking clan: FC
Defending clan: YAK
Planet: Mustafar
Proposed date and time of battle: Saturday 6PM
Attacker side: Empire
Sunday:
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Endor
Proposed date and time of battle:Sunday 1EST
Attacker side: Empire
Attacking clan: YAK
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Bespin
Proposed date and time of battle: Sunday 2EST
Defender sides: CIS for Platforms, Rebels for CC
Attacking clan: 212
Defending clan: FC
Planet: Rhen Var Harbour then Citadel
Proposed date and time of battle: 3pm EST Sunday
School has started back, so I won't be able to make any Friday battles from now on unless it's later in the day. I hope to make the weekend matches, though.
Congrats to Elk your first .... to be eliminated :bye: Its just happens to Elk every year we're one of the first to go.At least you made it to week Two. :tu:
unfortunate more 212 couldn't have made it. Since school has started Friday battles may not be as easy for us to do. GG FC
Hey do we get ICW 2 awards this time
:tu:
FC defended Tranquaan
YAK took Yavin
YAK defended Kamino
Good games
Is there a pic for Yavin?
Yo guys, here you have the final results from YAK vs 212:
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemberfiles.freewebs.com%2F60%2F99%2F78069960%2Fphotos%2FICW2-Silver%2FYAK%2520vs%2520212%2520-%2520Kamino%2520-%2520Stats.png&hash=140730b23dccb7237e4484d1dde56cda5ce1c500)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemberfiles.freewebs.com%2F60%2F99%2F78069960%2Fphotos%2FICW2-Silver%2FYAK%2520vs%2520212%2520-%2520Yavin4%2520-%2520Stats.png&hash=bab6d880a45a6f8c22f1997f25569a39dd95ac85)
YAK won both maps.
FC took Dantooine from YAK. Good game.
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I also took a video.
For the record, YAK had 7 players for part of the time
I was looking forward to the game with FC, we both had full teams and it was a good map. I even took a video because I thought it would be a fun game. Then it began and I was shot as I walked around corners. If you want to use radar in your own server that's fine but when it's specifically against the rules there is just no point.
If I can't even have a fair game in a tournament now there is no point in playing.I play an unmodified version of battlefront as it came on my disc and that shouldn't mean I automatically lose. I know this can't be proven and I don't want to start an argument but please don't ruin the game for other people by cheating just because you believe it is your right, I just want to enjoy this game.
Obviously this is not aimed at everyone and I thank those who gave us a good game, you would probably have won anyway. Also 2 more YAK turned up but they were asked to leave and to the best of my knowledge never joined the fight.
Edit; Here is the video for anyone who wants to see the battle; http://beta.xfire.com/video/5d6280
FC took Mustafar from YAK.
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And tatooine from 212
Quote from: Joseph on January 05, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
And tatooine from 212
Oh, right.
I have a video of Jabbas and Mos Eisley if anyone wants it.
Dantooine
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126849997-4.jpg
Jabba
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126851312-4.jpg
Mos
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126851314-4.jpg
Mustafar
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126851711-4.jpg
Can you please upload the video Sha Zam, I want to see how many of my teammates got shot in the back. 20 plus players on 1 serveq, fantastic :D.
Quote from: Phobos on January 05, 2013, 03:50:12 PM
Mos
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126851314-4.jpg
Lol this was a really fun game :) Tanks were fought over the language was clean and noone argued. A really big turn out as well !!
Quote from: Phobos on January 05, 2013, 03:50:12 PM
Mustafar
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/126851711-4.jpg
Wow, well played yak! They did well considering they were down by 2 for most of it im told :P
Yeah, it was great seeing so many people on for the tatooine games
Quote from: {212} Nixo on January 05, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Lol this was a really fun game :) Tanks were fought over the language was clean and noone argued. A really big turn out as well !!Wow, well played yak! They did well considering they were down by 2 for most of it im told :P
Jabba was more fun I think, no tanks = better. Yak did good cuz of no bleed and they had a good last cp to hold off.
Good games overall
It was a great turnout from all teams. Fun games too. I am not a fan of Mustafar though. It's so dark and the mines are almost impossible to see. I'm almost positive that all of my deaths were from mines. Regardless, I was glad to see so many players still active.
Quote from: Phobos on January 05, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
Jabba was more fun I think, no tanks = better. Yak did good cuz of no bleed and they had a good last cp to hold off.
Good games overall
Jabba was a bit of a small map for 22 players :D Thats why i prefered mos.
Sir Pimped, just color the mines on ur common.lvl and add them extra light.
Quote from: Immor†al Anyder on January 05, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Sir Pimped, just color the mines on ur common.lvl and add them extra light.
I don't know how to mod ;)
Now I cannot bcuz im @mobile, but ill tell u tomorrow how to do it, or if anyone volunteer for this, its k for me.
go into ur common builder
edit com_weap_inf_landmine.odf
change LightRadius = to a higher number for better glow visibility
then u can reskin the tga in the msh folder to change the landmine color
Quote from: Immor†al Anyder on January 05, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Sir Pimped, just color the mines on ur common.lvl and add them extra light.
LoL, Thanks for explaining Rage xd
Ill upload here my old, but more recent (2 months ago) UEF common, which has this.
--Edit: Better said, ill make a normal common.lvl, with this mod, for those who want the normal common with it--
What team are fc for rhen var maps?
FC defends Endor from YAK.
Good game, FC.
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That was a good game with FC and I enjoyed it, we were just beaten on CP's at the end. On the downside a few people have complained (including myself) about the following;
Radar: the worst thing to happen to public servers is now ruining this tournament although it was not so evident on Endor.
Glowing mines: I step on a hidden mine and get killed - the other player sees my ones easily
No brush: I can't hide in the grass, leave mines or even sneak around behind a player because the grass doesn't exist for them, they may aswell play a different map.
FC (and a few others) are no longer playing battlefront but a differnet game, I respect the mods that are made to alter this game - I use many offline but when they are used to break rules, cheat and ruin the game for others just to get a few extra kills it's just spiteful. I have been asked by other peopel to have FC punished for cheating but I don't want to drag admins into the abuse I will get for daring to play for fun...
FC defends Bespin from YAK.
Bespin: Platforms
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Bespin: CC
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To say the least, the matches were less than enjoyable.
Fc do not respond? We gave you plenty of notice so you could plan why not give us the same?
This tournament is becoming less and less enjoyable, because it appears to me that this community is riddled with players that have no respect, no class, and no desire for fair play. The fact that FC can't play a fair match and toss a cordial GG at the end of a match without insulting the opponents, is childish and shows that the average FC member is about as mature as a 6 year old.
I am thoroughly disappointed in this community, and it's sad that this place has devolved into a bunch of kids running around with hacks.
Quote from: Droideclaus on January 06, 2013, 11:41:53 AM
This tournament is becoming less and less enjoyable, because it appears to me that this community is riddled with players that have no respect, no class, and no desire for fair play. The fact that FC can't play a fair match and toss a cordial GG at the end of a match without insulting the opponents, is childish and shows that the average FC member is about as mature as a 6 year old.
I am thoroughly disappointed in this community, and it's sad that this place has devolved into a bunch of kids running around with hacks.
Most FC don't use any hacks so what you posted is false and offensive and as you said above, childish. Don't like FC? Good for you. But we play the match fair, we follow the rules. You cheat and bring extra merc, which we allowed so u could have 'more fun', then you thank us by insulting the clan. Very immature on your part.
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on January 06, 2013, 10:45:47 AM
That was a good game with FC and I enjoyed it, we were just beaten on CP's at the end. On the downside a few people have complained (including myself) about the following;
Radar: the worst thing to happen to public servers is now ruining this tournament although it was not so evident on Endor.
Glowing mines: I step on a hidden mine and get killed - the other player sees my ones easily
No brush: I can't hide in the grass, leave mines or even sneak around behind a player because the grass doesn't exist for them, they may aswell play a different map.
FC (and a few others) are no longer playing battlefront but a differnet game, I respect the mods that are made to alter this game - I use many offline but when they are used to break rules, cheat and ruin the game for others just to get a few extra kills it's just spiteful. I have been asked by other peopel to have FC punished for cheating but I don't want to drag admins into the abuse I will get for daring to play for fun...
No brush mod is cheating and ruining the game? Not much respect in that statement.
Quote from: Phobos on January 06, 2013, 11:49:59 AM
But we play the match fair, we follow the rules. You cheat and bring extra merc
Quote from: Oven on December 15, 2012, 10:17:49 PM
N. Radar is not permitted.
We asked you if we could have an extra merc and you didn't mind.
For the record the extra merc (which you agreed to) turned out to be in YAK anyway he was just winding us up, thats why I was having trouble at the start. Also you have clearly broken rules, FC swore several times and use radar which they didn't even bother lying about anymore when I last asked.
Also Endor is designed as a map with brush and hiding places so obviously I have no respect for you modding it to gain an advantage in online play.
I will continue to play because alot of people have shown support for YAK but I can completely see why people don't want to play FC anymore and are starting to leave the game, I don't know how much longer I will play now when most people are no longer playing battlefront but some version designed to give them easy kills against those of us who just want to relax and enjoy a game.
I'll try not to clog up this topic anymore now but I wish that people sould see what they are doing to this game and it's players.
I support you on that 100% GDH. I think there is a time and place for mods and a tournament isn't one of them. How is the game even a challenge anymore when you take away everything that makes the game what it is and then add stuff to make it even more easier. :wacko:
This is a great tournament and has huge success. But after the past few games I have a sour taste in my mouth and I am rather disgusted. I am not saying this in complaint or as an attack on anyone. Just want to see if anyone else thinks the same or if I'm crazy for hating mods
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscreenshot.xfire.com%2Fs%2F126863669-4.jpg&hash=d3c998f47a7ce39aaeca3499bb9a22e262ccb5f1)[/spoiler] ^ that's why I am still around, at least the servers are still filling up eh?
Quote from: Agent Z on January 06, 2013, 11:56:12 AM
We asked you if we could have an extra merc and you didn't mind.
see thats the difference, if you want to complain about no brush do it before the match starts.
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on January 06, 2013, 12:05:43 PM
For the record the extra merc (which you agreed to) turned out to be in YAK anyway he was just winding us up, thats why I was having trouble at the start. Also you have clearly broken rules, FC swore several times and use radar which they didn't even bother lying about anymore when I last asked.
Also Endor is designed as a map with brush and hiding places so obviously I have no respect for you modding it to gain an advantage in online play.
I will continue to play because alot of people have shown support for YAK but I can completely see why people don't want to play FC anymore and are starting to leave the game, I don't know how much longer I will play now when most people are no longer playing battlefront but some version designed to give them easy kills against those of us who just want to relax and enjoy a game.
I'll try not to clog up this topic anymore now but I wish that people sould see what they are doing to this game and it's players.
i have no respect for you complaining about my endor mods. they are very nice and im glad i never released it for you to spit on. people like you make others want to quit by complaining too much about mods its just a game dont like mods? dont play in tournaments that allow them. simple
212 won Rhen Var, but they ended up with more players.
FC has requested a rematch.
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I would like to know why no penalties are given for players who use the special units like jets during the tournament to prevent us from capturing a command post and then they capture the command post, causing our team to continue to bleed when it would normally be stopped. This was the 3rd time in 2 games a special unit was used by the other team. I would like an explanation for what will be done about this.
At least 1 fc member left during citadel
same with rhen var before the end. We started with the same number. And then on harbour we had one more player to start so we got someone to leave (they had to go anyway :D)
No penaltys were problubly given because they thought it was a bumper map for about 5-6 min. then once they realized they changed.
This is getting out of hand. You cant just make a re match when everyone has left and has to come back. You left in the first place. No secound chances if you wanted that: then my comment below is valid I checked it at the time.
Sorry FC for not playing today, ive been on hospital...
I don't know what to say except madness everywhere. Even the admins admit the rematch turned out to be a scrap and I don't even know why we had a rematch. Can someone explain this mess?? When admins say its getting crazy and can't control things idk what should happen.
Quote from: Phobos on January 06, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
i have no respect for you complaining about my endor mods. they are very nice and im glad i never released it for you to spit on. people like you make others want to quit by complaining too much about mods its just a game dont like mods? dont play in tournaments that allow them. simple
Tone it down.
Alright, enough! I am terribly sorry for all of this, but one of FC's mercinaries (Tex) left shortly after joining on Rhen Var. The teams were fair for the first minute or so (I counted as people joined), but I did not catch Tex leave. At the end of the match, FC requested a rematch. I allowed them to have a rematch since the teams were unfair.
When we had the rematch, several 212 got mad and some of their players left, but as FC was defendng, they are allowed more members.
Also, a couple 212 members used jet after multiple warnings on both maps. I believe one of them even captured a command post, causing FC to bleed.
I have screenshots and a video of the match on my Xfire profile.
@Oven: It's your call. I let FC keep Rhen Var because they won the rematch on Harbour.
I respect the the call to let FC keep Rhen var. I would like to know why, if one of FC's players left, should 212 be required to have a rematch? I also don't recall any jetting in the first game.
I don't see how it's our fault that Tex left. What Z said in the server is that Kishan decided to insult her so she left. I don't mind a rematch but It was not organized enough to be fair. Their should be a clear set time when the rematch is not just whichever map that they feel like saying start.
Quote from: Droideclaus on January 06, 2013, 11:41:53 AM
This tournament is becoming less and less enjoyable, because it appears to me that this community is riddled with players that have no respect, no class, and no desire for fair play. The fact that FC can't play a fair match and toss a cordial GG at the end of a match without insulting the opponents, is childish and shows that the average FC member is about as mature as a 6 year old.
I am thoroughly disappointed in this community, and it's sad that this place has devolved into a bunch of kids running around with hacks.
Tone it down.
I think since =212= Chili was jet and taking cps after being warned multiple times, and then 212 had one more than us, the rematch was justified, and FC should technically keep the planet.
However in order to reduce the arguing and chaos, [FC] has decided to just let 212 have Rhen Var. Hopefully the admins will be better prepared for this kind of circumstance in future wars to avoid these kinds of problems.
Quote from: {212th} ~Norris~ on January 06, 2013, 01:50:37 PM
I respect the the call to let FC keep Rhen var. I would like to know why, if one of FC's players left, should 212 be required to have a rematch? I also don't recall any jetting in the first game.
Agent Z did the correct thing
Quote from: Oven on July 27, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
I'm not playing the indefinitely postponed rematch game ever again in this tournament, ever. All issues will be resolved immediately after battles. I had hoped that rulings like this would not ever be an issue but they are, and someone is going to get a little hurt. I am truly sorry.
Thank You Phobos and FC. I respect you all a lot. I still would like to know though why the rematch was necessary when it was FC's player that left. If 212 would have been told of the uneven numbers after the start one of us could have left. Just want to know so this doesn't happen again. Obviously we were in the wrong for the jet and I apologize for that
Quote from: {212th} ~Norris~ on January 06, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
Thank You Phobos and FC. I respect you all a lot. I still would like to know though why the rematch was necessary when it was FC's player that left. If 212 would have been told of the uneven numbers after the start one of us could have left. Just want to know so this doesn't happen again. Obviously we were in the wrong for the jet and I apologize for that
Shazam's video shows that FC's merc Tex left a few second after battle was started. The video also shows 212 Chili capturing the gray base right at beginning with dark trooper, even after I told him to not jet he took the base anyway then a bunch of 212 spawn there. Watch shazam's video and you will see, we should have stopped the battle and restarted it right then and there.
Ahh now I see. Thanks phobos, you are right we should have just stopped the battle right away. I wasn't aware the jet made that big of an impact.
wow so many people, this might be the problem lol, so much confusion, never thought to many people would be a bad thing :shrug:
Quote from: {212th} ~Norris~ on January 06, 2013, 01:37:50 PM
I don't know what to say except madness everywhere.
Hallelujah! Where's the Tylenol?
Seriously now, I'm sorry that things happened the way they did, but they had to. Shazam did everything he was supposed to, and I'm very thankful for that.
I can see why some 212 were confused (or even upset) when the rematch was announced; I would feel the same way. But Shazam's video makes it clear that a rematch was in order, and indeed, I have stated in the past that rematches should be held soon after the original battle, because rescheduling is such a nightmare.
Quote from: Phobos on January 06, 2013, 02:01:18 PM
However in order to reduce the arguing and chaos, [FC] has decided to just let 212 have Rhen Var. Hopefully the admins will be better prepared for this kind of circumstance in future wars to avoid these kinds of problems.
I'm sorry if today's battles left a bad taste in people's mouth; fortunately, FC's generosity here means that there are no long-term consequences (This certainly isn't necessary; thanks a lot). We've only got one week left, and I hope it will be the best one yet.
I would like to reaffirm the rule forbidding radar, while noting that mods such as brush remover/crosshairs etc. are not forbidden. Every team in this tournament has been accused of violating the no-radar rule; frankly, I am not in a position to judge the veracity of these claims. Most of them, I suspect, are unfounded. I am not willing at this stage to go through the motions of trying to "enforce" this rule, because that is virtually impossible. All I can do is ask that, if you have been using radar, please stop.
I would also like to ask you all to keep flaming/taunting to a minimum. I'm all for some competitive jeering; it would be unfairly puritan of me to ask you to stop talking to each other at all. Please do not be offensive to a disruptive extent, though. And of course, no swearing.
Thanks to everyone for being patient, and not pulling a Clark Griswold!
Quote from: Oven on January 06, 2013, 03:30:43 PM
I would also like to ask you all to keep flaming/taunting to a minimum. I'm all for some competitive jeering; it would be unfairly puritan of me to ask you to stop talking to each other at all. Please do not be offensive to a disruptive extent, though. And of course, no swearing.
I might also state that this includes the match admins. Things would go a whole lot smoother if admins were given respect. I will be the first to admit that I'm not very good at being an admin, but I'm trying. If I do something that is out of order you can respectfully tell me, but there is no need to call me a bad admin for trying my best.
Also, I apologize for my unreadiness for today's battles. Quite frankly, I was very nervous when I heard "rematch". I knew chaos would start, but I tried to do what any other admin would do.
Thank you to the majority of FC and 212, though. Most of you were very cooperative.
You did just fine, from what I can tell! Messy situations can rarely be solved perfectly.
I encourage anyone who thinks that I (or any of the other admins) is mistaken in some decision, to call me (or them) on it. Just like you, we're not perfect, and our interest is to make this tournament as enjoyable as possible for as many as possible (fastidious utilitarians we), and not simply to exercise power. That said, we admins reserve the right to ask (or force) a player to leave who seriously disrespects us ingame. (If you were really so distressed by our performance, you should have left anyway.)
If you think you can do better than the admins I've chosen, well, you'll just have to rest uncomfortably with that opinion, because I have chosen them for a reason!
Quote from: Agent Z on January 06, 2013, 04:15:11 PM
I might also state that this includes the match admins. Things would go a whole lot smoother if admins were given respect. I will be the first to admit that I'm not very good at being an admin, but I'm trying. If I do something that is out of order you can respectfully tell me, but there is no need to call me a bad admin for trying my best.
I apologize for calling you a bad admin. When I saw their player use a dark trooper to capture a command post at the beginning of the game, I got upset because it was the 2nd time they had used special units. I felt the need to get your attention to how important that event was in determining the outcome of the original game on harbor. I think you do a good job, but I lost my cool in the heat of the moment because they unfairly gained an advantage that put our team behind right from the start.
I would also like to note that even during the rematch on harbor, they used dark trooper for the second time to capture the same command post, right at the start of the game.
The 12v12 on Tatooine yesterday went much smoother since there were 2 admins present to help enforce the rules more. I think for large planet battles 2 admins should try to be present.
Quote from: Phobos on January 06, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
The 12v12 on Tatooine yesterday went much smoother since there were 2 admins present to help enforce the rules more. I think for large planet battles 2 admins should try to be present.
Agreed, the two admin thing seemed to work out well but I know it may not always be possible to have both admins.
Thank you Oven and Sha Zam for your comments, What you've both said reminds me this is still a professional tournament.
If I may, give a suggestion that perhaps when a rematch is wanted the Admin(s) and a representative from both opposing clans have a group chat on xfire to sort things out. In this way both sides can get a clear understanding of what happened. The only way to minimize confusion is through communication :tu:
Well the first rhen ver server was wrong era. Phobos tried to host but we did not want him to host because many of our players are banned...his server turned out to be laggy so he remade it...then the new swbfgamers rhen ver server was up so we had to go again...the battles were over at 4:15 so yes we were angry when we heard rematch.
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
Well the first rhen ver server was wrong era.
There was no era information on the calendar.
I think the matter is settled and I see no point in bringing any of this up anymore except on how we can do better next time around :tu:
We were find with the era but FC was not. Who picks era? Nixo asked here what side FC wanted but they did not reply.
Quote from: Buckler on January 07, 2013, 05:39:24 AM
There was no era information on the calendar.
It was right that you put both servers up but the gcw one had a different password it would not except the current one
Quote from: {212th} ~Norris~ on January 06, 2013, 07:33:36 PM
If I may, give a suggestion that perhaps when a rematch is wanted the Admin(s) and a representative from both opposing clans have a group chat on xfire to sort things out. In this way both sides can get a clear understanding of what happened. The only way to minimize confusion is through communication :tu:
Yes, this is a great idea and will be implemented in the future.
Week 4 thread is up.
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 07:03:32 AM
We were find with the era but FC was not. Who picks era? Nixo asked here what side FC wanted but they did not reply.
Actually we did post it right here
http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=5867.msg59378#msg59378
Quote from: Phobos on December 31, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
For platforms, FC would like to be Droids. And on Cloud city, we prefer Rebels.
that's all I see....I was talking about Rhen Ver....is this radar from Fate? This was after the second battle but I doubt he left and and put it on. http://www.xfire.com/profile/ikilludude/screenshots/?view#126865992
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
that's all I see....I was talking about Rhen Ver....is this radar from Fate? This was after the second battle but I doubt he left and and put it on. http://www.xfire.com/profile/ikilludude/screenshots/?view#126865992
Do you save every pic you find of FC using radar?
And he took that pic cuz of 212 cussing. There are more but I can't be bothered to upload them.
Yes I do, oh and Fate also cursed, you can see in the video, if you want :happy:.
I see no response to Rhen Var either but I may have missed something.
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
that's all I see....I was talking about Rhen Ver....is this radar from Fate? This was after the second battle but I doubt he left and and put it on. http://www.xfire.com/profile/ikilludude/screenshots/?view#126865992
Yes that was before the rematch was going to take place and he had radar on.
Edit: I didnt see phobos post :P And that was after the match I dont see why that should matter?
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 02:33:47 PM
Yes I do, oh and Fate also cursed, you can see in the video, if you want :happy:.
212 Cursed at least 4 times, the video shows that too. Enjoy your collection of radar screenshots btw :)
I thought I posted rhen var sides, I know I was going to but I think the no brush complaint posts got me distracted so I forgot.
I would consider taking Jet many times more important than cursing (and idk if whoever cursed did it many times)
And also, did u complain in the moment he cursed ?
Quote from: Phobos on January 07, 2013, 02:36:38 PM
I thought I posted rhen var sides, I know I was going to but I think the no brush complaint posts got me distracted so I forgot.
It's okay now but something to just check in furutre :)
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 01:54:29 PM....is this radar from Fate? This was after the second battle
You clearly stated yourself that this picture was not taken during an official battle, meaning there is nothing wrong with me having it at that time, and you have no evidence or proof that i had it in during an official battle so you have no argument to make. You cannot just
assume, silly little troll.
Here's a nice picture for your radar collection. This was a long time ago like 2011 when I saved delayed our team from losing.
I did not see you leave, so did you just press a button and bam no radar? Also Stevt cleary states that we beat you guys twice, so this was right after our matches. Anyway won't matter because we have Rhen Ver now, just please don't use it in future matches :)
Quote from: (212)^Adv^-Vixo on January 07, 2013, 03:38:58 PM
I did not see you leave, so did you just press a button and bam no radar? Also Stevt cleary states that we beat you guys twice, so this was right after our matches. Anyway won't matter because we have Rhen Ver now, just please don't use it in future matches :)
beat us with those dark jets which i hope you don't use in future matches.
I'm sorry but any decent pilot can easily take out a jet.
That's your excuse for using jets twice after being warned not to? I guess 212 can't be trusted to not use specials. I suggest a mission.lvl mod for future matches that disables special units entirely.
Me too, that would be fine :cheers:. oh and chili is German, so I think he misunderstood, if he said no jet to me in german I might not get it. Sorry for the jet :D, I hope the mission mod gets put on.
Actually smarta*s, i specifically remember leaving the server in both instances to do whatsoever i pleased. Once again i'll remind you that you cannot simply assume things.
Quote from: Are§ on January 07, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
Actually smarta*s, i specifically remember leaving the server in both instances to do whatsoever i pleased. Once again i'll remind you that you cannot simply assume things.
lol
You should be thankful Phobos was nice enough to give you a planet you didn't fairly win, so please stop talking.
SirPimped is very correct Mart should have left the subject a long time ago. I am also sorry for my own actions I cursed and left the server because of confusion. I am sorry for this and I thank FC for being so generous to us. I also am sorry of accusing FC of using radar. It truthful is non of my business and is no one elses either nor is any other mod, cheat, or hack. So, I again say sorry to FC and Thank You for your generosity(if thats a word, think so xD)
Mart, chili took jet bcuz he wanted. U rly have to be ''stupid'' for not knowing that when someone says no jet, it means kein jet.
Quote from: {212}FrenchFryZ on January 07, 2013, 06:23:54 PM
I again say sorry to FC and Thank You for your generosity(if thats a word, think so xD)
Your ok Generosity is a word :tu: