Will the world end on December 21st, 2012 at midnight? I've heard different things and I'm pretty sure it won't happen but just want to hear what you guys think.
Apparently, the time will be 6:11am for New York when the world supposedly ends. I highly doubt it though. The most I could see happening is some hacker(s) hacking the internet to make people think the world will end.
Now the most dumbest idea would be for the US to launch all their nukes at the time the world ends.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Claus on December 20, 2012, 07:29:08 PM
Apparently, the time will be 6:11am for New York when the world supposedly ends. I highly doubt it though. The most I could see happening is some hacker(s) hacking the internet to make people think the world will end.
Now the most dumbest idea would be for the US to launch all their nukes at the time the world ends.
From what I've read up on its about 1 hour and a half away from this time (EST)
When you account for daylight savings time and leap year and all that jazz, I think it was supposed to end a while ago. I think, don't hold me to it :confused:
I don't really believe in conspiracies. :shrug:
Quote from: Jolly Ol' Agent Z on December 20, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
When you account for daylight savings time and leap year and all that jazz, I think it was supposed to end a while ago. I think, don't hold me to it :confused:
I don't really believe in conspiracies. :shrug:
Who does? *cough* Kit Fisto *cough* :P
The only thing that ends is mayan calender cycle. According to them we move from age of pisces to age of aquarius, whatever thats supposed to mean.
Quote from: Phobos on December 20, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
The only thing that ends is mayan calender cycle. According to them we move from age of pisces to age of aquarius, whatever thats supposed to mean.
I brought this topic up in physics class and we had a discussion about it, and the teacher said someething like that as if it was like our calendar we get a new one every year.
Yeah, so maybe thousands of years from now someone will dig up an old American calendar that ran out of space at 4035, then they will think we predicted the world to end. :P
Quote from: SnowFlakeSnake on December 20, 2012, 08:04:05 PM
Yeah, so maybe thousands of years from now someone will dig up an old American calendar that ran out of space at 4035, then they will think we predicted the world to end. :P
What if its the Canadians? Then there is a problem.
Quote from: [FC]Sharpshot on December 20, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
Who does? *cough* Kit Fisto *cough* :P
What the?! lol
Me being into science and all that jazz I understand why people think the world will end and I know the reasons it WILL NOT. You guys do know the world is predicted to end like every 15 years. :rofl:
EDIT: Here ya go! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events :rofl:
So will it end THIS time?
this guy thinks it will lol
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hearsay I tell you! I will post again on SWBF gamers on The 22nd of December no matter what happens! :moo:
HO HO HO! It is extremely important the we not write off the risk that some catastrophic species-exterminating event will happen, say, within the next century or so. (Today? Probably not.)
Consider one assumption and two hypotheses:
Assumption: All else being equal, one should reason as though one were selected randomly from some class of observers.
Hypothesis 1: 100 billion humans will have lived
Hypothesis 2: 100 trillion humans will have lived
Your and my birth rank among humans is, roughly, 60-billion. Using the assumption, Hypothesis 1 is vastly more likely than hypothesis 2, and since the human population is growing exponentially, this implies* that the human species will come to an end fairly soon, compared to what we thought before.
This line of reasoning is called the Doomsday Argument, and there are many subtleties that I've glossed over, but you get the idea.
*Or we will turn into superhumans not in our class of observers, or the birth rate will decrease by a ridiculous amount...
My answer to that question: No the world will NOT end on that day, and anyone who thinks so, shouldn't be allowed on the internet for being a gullable dumb
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Quote from: Jolly Ol' Agent Z on December 20, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
When you account for daylight savings time and leap year and all that jazz, I think it was supposed to end a while ago. I think, don't hold me to it :confused:
I don't really believe in conspiracies. :shrug:
Uhm.... I sure hope you don't mean ALL conspiracies... Most are true.. Especially when it comes to guns, and/or german government involving Hitler...
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 20, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
Uhm.... I sure hope you don't mean ALL conspiracies... Most are true..
surely most are false? since most major events have several mutually contradictory conspiracy theories attached to them
That said, saying you don't believe in conspiracy theories in world affairs is like saying you don't believe in force theories in physics.
Quote from: Santa Claus on December 20, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
surely most are false? since most major events have several mutually contradictory conspiracy theories attached to them
That said, saying you don't believe in conspiracy theories in world affairs is like saying you don't believe in force theories in physics.
Well, I suppose you are correct, In the moment, I was referring to all legitimate conspiracies formed while not on drugs or something.... But yes, I see your point.
Would being on drugs invalidate an argument? (If so, do prescriptions count? How about caffeine? How about Ms. Claus's cookies?!)
Quote from: Santa Claus on December 20, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Would being on drugs invalidate an argument? (If so, do prescriptions count? How about caffeine?)
My, you respond fast.
Lol, I MEAN, conspiracy theorys formed by people that don't make them up ALL the time, to get attention.
And coffee, coffee = conspiracy mayhem!! (Sarcasm)
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 20, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
My, you respond fast.
The world is gonna end soon he has too!
Did these conspiracists think about the International date line? Or will the Earth gradually break into nothing as the day turns to the 21st across the planet?
Quote from: Santa Claus on December 20, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Would being on drugs invalidate an argument?
ask r2d2
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Quote from: Phobos on December 20, 2012, 09:08:34 PM
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Hahahahhaha!!!! Nice!
6 MINUTES, Yukon Penensula time, where the Mayans lived..
http://bostinno.com/2012/12/11/mayan-calendar-end-of-the-world-december-21-2012/#ss__271599_1_0__ss
According to this research, the Mayan calendar does not end. It actually just begins a new cycle. Every 1,872,000 days the calendar resets.
And as George Carlin would say, "The planet isn't going anywhere, we are! The planet will be here, we'll be long gone."
Firstly, no.
Secondly, why do people blindly go for this stuff?
Ofc not xd
Well, we can safely say the world will not end, since it is already December 21st. :P
lol,people still discuss about that....
it already was here, in Spain xD
And my evil math teacher gave us class (Stupid sick woman xD) -She was the only one-
Also is so funny to see all the sidebar posts with this topic XD
I like each of the "end of the worlds". It's so exciting! Without it, life cud be bored... :sleep:
At least, lot of fun films, was created, because of this "event".
Quote from: Sereja on December 21, 2012, 05:31:28 AM
I like each of the "end of the worlds". It's so exciting! Without it, life cud be bored... :sleep:
At least, lot of fun films, was created, because of this "event".
what ever you say, Doc.
The Real end of the world was when SWBF servers went down xD
Dude, we should make a Horror film for that!
Well I'm in trouble I sold all my possessions because the world was ending...
The weirdest thing just happened... Last night I had one of those crazy realistic dreams about a world-wide earthquake. And I don't even believe the world will end tonight. :o
Quote from: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on December 21, 2012, 08:21:31 AM
Well I'm in trouble I sold all my possessions because the world was ending...
Penguins legally own property and possessions? IT REALLY IS THE END OF THE WORLD!
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 21, 2012, 07:26:11 AM
The Real end of the world was when SWBF servers went down xD
Dude, we should make a Horror film for that!
LoL
THe world has ended, at my school at least. Kids are no longer allowed to hang out in the bridge between the two buildings during lunch. It's all over.
The myans are such jokers :P We are all so gullable (if you say gullable slowly it sounds like orange)
Quote from: {212} Nixo on December 21, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
The myans are such jokers :P We are all so gullable (if you say gullable slowly it sounds like orange)
How does that sound like orange in any way?....
The world could not end at.midnight, because different parts of the world experience midnight at different times. In order for that to happen, whatever would want the world to end would have to obey the timezones, and i dought that would happen
It was suppose to be midnight Mayan time.
Quote from: Ltin on December 21, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
The world could not end at.midnight, because different parts of the world experience midnight at different times. In order for that to happen, whatever would want the world to end would have to obey the timezones, and i dought that would happen
Obama: Ltin, I am going to have to confiscate those guns in your signature, because I am evil! MUWAHHAHAHA
Ltin: Awwwwwww!
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 21, 2012, 07:44:44 PM
Obama: Ltin, I am going to have to confiscate those guns in your signature, because I am evil! MUWAHHAHAHA
Ltin: Awwwwwww!
wut?
Quote from: jdee-barc on December 21, 2012, 10:24:36 AM
THe world has ended, at my school at least. Kids are no longer allowed to hang out in the bridge between the two buildings during lunch. It's all over.
HeeHee. I don't think anyone gets that but you.
The world ended for all the potheads at my school. Starting next semester we'll have random drug dog searches! :cheer: That kinda made my day. :cheers:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on December 21, 2012, 08:11:49 PM
HeeHee. I don't think anyone gets that but you.
The world ended for all the potheads at my school. Starting next semester we'll have random drug dog searches! :cheer: That kinda made my day. :cheers:
Join me on the lighter dark side.
Quote from: [FC]Sharpshot on December 21, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
Join me on the lighter dark side.
Wait I don't get it. Join you on the side that lights up?! NO! :rofl:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on December 21, 2012, 08:16:25 PM
Wait I don't get it. Join you on the side that lights up?! NO! :rofl:
OMG noooo. I meant join me on the lighter part of the dark side fooo.
Haha! Ok! Lol! :rofl:
Greetings from hell!
It's real. I'm dead.
Quote from: aeria. on December 21, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Greetings from hell!
Well no surprise there. ;)
Please don't kill me! :wave:
well im still alive & its 2:37 so yeah earth is fine lol
LoL Kit xd
Aeria, are u in heaven or hell ?
I SURVIVED 2012!!!! :XD:
Quote from: Santa Claus on December 20, 2012, 08:34:26 PM
HO HO HO! It is extremely important the we not write off the risk that some catastrophic species-exterminating event will happen, say, within the next century or so. (Today? Probably not.)
Consider one assumption and two hypotheses:
Assumption: All else being equal, one should reason as though one were selected randomly from some class of observers.
Hypothesis 1: 100 billion humans will have lived
Hypothesis 2: 100 trillion humans will have lived
Your and my birth rank among humans is, roughly, 60-billion. Using the assumption, Hypothesis 1 is vastly more likely than hypothesis 2, and since the human population is growing exponentially, this implies* that the human species will come to an end fairly soon, compared to what we thought before.
This line of reasoning is called the Doomsday Argument, and there are many subtleties that I've glossed over, but you get the idea.
*Or we will turn into superhumans not in our class of observers, or the birth rate will decrease by a ridiculous amount...
Doesn't exponential growth imply that the difference in population between years X and X+1 will be smaller than the difference in population between years X+1 and X+3; that is to say that the population grows at an increasing rate? For most of human history, population's growth has been limited with capacity concerns (I believe that the birth rate exploded with the industrial revolution, c. 1750): doesn't the Doomsday Argument assume that there are no technological advancements, which could drastically increase the birthrate and very well make H2 a legitimate possibility?
Congratulations to all survivors! :cheers:
It seems, this "End of the World", is temporaly unavailable. Check it out for the new date. ;)
Quote from: Sereja on December 22, 2012, 06:06:23 AM
Congratulations to all survivors! :cheers:
It seems, this "End of the World", is temporaly unavailable. Check it out for the new date. ;)
ahahahahah LOL XD
Quote from: aeria. on December 21, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Greetings from hell!
It's real. I'm dead.
Well, congrats missy. ^^
Quote from: BlackScorpion on December 22, 2012, 05:43:12 AM
Doesn't exponential growth imply that the difference in population between years X and X+1 will be smaller than the difference in population between years X+1 and X+3; that is to say that the population grows at an increasing rate? For most of human history, population's growth has been limited with capacity concerns (I believe that the birth rate exploded with the industrial revolution, c. 1750): doesn't the Doomsday Argument assume that there are no technological advancements, which could drastically increase the birthrate and very well make H2 a legitimate possibility?
The DA reasoning isn't affected by technological considerations. It's a statement about how you should update your beliefs concerning the longevity of the human species when you incorporate the fact that you are roughly the 60 billionth human.
In fact, perniciously, an accelerating birthrate narrows the time span within which you expect doom to strike.
H2 is certainly a possibility, but it would be rather surprising to be born so early in human history, given the assumption. Nick Bostrom uses the following example: Consider two identical jars in front of you, one of which contains 10 numbered marbles and one of which contains 1 million numbered marbles. If you are given a random marble from one of the jars, and it is number 5, you can be almost certain it was drawn from the 10 marble jar.
(If H1 says that you draw from the 10 marble jar, the probability of drawing 5 is 1/10; if H2 says that you draw from the 1 million marble jar, the probability of getting 5 is 1/1000000. Your belief in H1 is drastically increased to near certainty. The analogy to DA is essentially exact. However, it's important to realize that the exact numbers you get depend on your prior beliefs. For example, if before drawing a marble, you have good reason to believe H2, the degree of shift to H1 will be changed.)
So you tried it? It was meant to show all the people that are gullabe and the people that are not :P
You cannot accurately rate how fast human (or any other living thing) growth.
You can only know that the creator of all of it said "Be fruitful, and multiply..."
And did not say "Multiply at a rate of X blah blah blah blah...."
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 22, 2012, 12:42:36 PM
You cannot accurately rate how fast human (or any other living thing) growth.
You can only know that the creator of all of it said "Be fruitful, and multiply..."
And did not say "Multiply at a rate of X blah blah blah blah...."
That's a rather controversial and pessimistic claim! I know that any biologist would beg to differ! The creator hypothesis doesn't appear to put such a limit on human knowledge; perhaps there is some subtlety to the argument that I am missing.
It's debate time. Lolz.
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on December 22, 2012, 12:42:36 PM
You cannot accurately rate how fast human (or any other living thing) growth.
You can only know that the creator of all of it said "Be fruitful, and multiply..."
And did not say "Multiply at a rate of X blah blah blah blah...."
Enough of that. Not everyone believes that specific creation story Not everyone believes in a creation story. Not everyone follows a monotheistic religion. not everyone follows a religion.
How about we just end this discussion before we start a flame war here. Never knew that a post stating the end of a Mayan calendar would go so far as this.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Claus on December 22, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
How about we just end this discussion before we start a flame war here. Never knew that a post stating the end of a Mayan calendar would go so far as this.
Yes well, as it is with the internet the topic of conversation is forgotten quickly.
The main point is, we're all still (mostly) alive which is just grand. In addition we should continue to take any further apocalyptic predictions with a large pinch of salt.
I look at it this way, the world "ends" for someone everyday (when they die). we shouldn't be worried about it. your world could end by other factors....