I was wondering how to land a kill like SirPimped and all of the FC and BlackScorpion did in his Smack down video.
Well I won't tell you how THEY did it... But when I was a good sniper, way back in the day, I would just use the same type of sniping they do in the army:
I think they're called "Following" and "Ambushing." You can either use following and try to follow them with your reticule in the air until you get a good shot, then pull it. Or you can use ambushing and calculate where they will be in the next few seconds and set your reticule there, when they pass you shoot em. The best time to use ambushing is when they get right as high as they can go, then they pause for a moment before falling back down. Use that pause to kill them.
i was mostly talking about the Shock and Arc Trooper, and the Vanguard as well as the Assault Droid, But thanks for these tips :) :tu:
SirPimped could give you the best advice for mid-air rocket kills. Midair sniping is the easiest. Mortar is hardest, shotgun and pistol are quite challenging as well but its mostly a 'feel' you get with practice, about how much far ahead to aim of where they are going (vertically and horizontally), taking into account your distance from them, the speed of your weapon, spread, ping and lag etc. Also its usually easier to shoot jets as they are descending rather than ascending (for dark jets anyway, clone jets its about the same).
I like sniping clone jets on kamino from across the map while they are flying through the air, and its much easier to get two mid air body shots than one mid air headshot although both are possible.
Haha, I don't have a midair kill in the video; my kill is me sliding off the rail and getting a kill. With that said, the first rule of being able to knock people out of the air with a rocket is being able to get direct hits, kills that you receive because you hit your target and not the ground surrounding your target.
Quote from: BlackScorpion on October 27, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
Haha, I don't have a midair kill in the video; my kill is me sliding off the rail and getting a kill. With that said, the first rule of being able to knock people out of the air with a rocket is being able to get direct hits, kills that you receive because you hit your target and not the ground surrounding your target.
I know but it was in the video, thats what i was trying to get at lol.
Shooting jet troopers out of the air is one of the most difficult tasks in SWBF. So to do something difficult, it takes a lot of practice. I would say it took me about two months of practicing before I got air kills on a consistent basis with rocket troopers.
My best advice would be to start simple and go from there.
Step 1: As you're heard already, go for direct kills rather than going for splash damage. It will improve your accuracy. Aim for the center of their body rather than the ground
Step 2: Find a friend to practice on in a private server. Tell them to fly easy patterns and progressively get more difficult as you get more comfortable shooting them.
Step 3: Practice in a competitive server like a FC or PLA server. Focus on only attacking jets in the air. Your score will probably look worse, but it's quality over quantity in that case.
Now for more specific advice, I would say be patient. Wait until you know where the person is about to fly. Clone jet troopers are easier to hit because they have more predictable and slower patterns. Dark troopers have a variety of quick patterns, so really it's all about a "best guess". I usually shoot in the area the player is going. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Try to get good at shooting one rocket with rebel vanguard. It will be more accurate. Other than that it's all about practice. If you spend the time working on it, you will only get better over time.
Play more Space Invaders or Team Fortress 2.
You must learn the importance of shooting where they're going to be rather than where they are....
/Get lucky.
Alright I will take your advice in-game. Thank you all for helping me out.
I dont rly think nobody can tell u how to do airkills, but just watch iNoobishh* 's Videos.
He is the best Air Rocket Killer.
Quote from: Anyder on October 28, 2012, 02:32:43 PM
I dont rly think nobody can tell u how to do airkills, but just watch iNoobishh* 's Videos.
He is the best Air Rocket Killer.
Have you seen SirPimped's Smack down video on xfire, watch that then come back, I just personally think SirPimped and everyone in that collage steals the spotlight in that category.
Well i went to twa today to practice aganist Dark Jets with rocket...only got one and he was like 10 feet off the ground xD... sniping them is much easier imo, im not sure if i can do better aganist Rep jets :D
Noobishh 's videos are much better, much more, u may have never seen any of them.
Ill make a post to show they.
iNoobishh is the best air rocket killer for sure.
Quote from: Anyder on October 29, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
Noobishh 's videos are much better, much more, u may have never seen any of them.
Ill make a post to show they.
iNoobishh is the best air rocket killer for sure.
I have seen iNoobish videos. In my opinion SirPimped gets better air rocket kills, but you can learn a lot from watching either player.
Not rly, Sir Pimped airkills are the ''easier'' ones, those where the players fly up and go down.
And then Noobish's airkills are much more skilled (SWBF | When the sun goes down , SWBF | Dumbledore and iNoobishh* Out of Control )
Check some and compare x)
Also ask Trouble, he left server after HÄĐ£§ Airkilled him with rocket :O
SirPimped wins easily against Noobish
Noobish tried to air kill me before in TWA server but fail big time lol
Noobish is much better than any FC at airkilling and better with shotgun than any FC.
Anyway thats not so hard...
Lol Anyder I have owned Noobish in TWA server easily. If I can do it, then anyone in FC can.
I have also air killed him before multiple times, making him quit the server.
take it somewhere else guys. this is for tips, not presenting claims to who is the best.
I make my videos for the enjoyment of others and myself. If you don't like them, then don't watch them. As Buckler said, this is to give tips to people who want to try a new aspect of the game. If anyone else would like help on air killing in game, contact me on X-Fire. I am willing to give practice sessions. I'll even help you if you ask nicely Anyder 8)
Am I allow to pick days for lessons, Lol xD , But if I can ill choose Every First week Wednesday, Friday, and every second week, I want just One hour maximum on Saturday around 1:00 pm est
Quote from: Anyder on October 29, 2012, 04:00:06 PM
Noobish is much better than any FC at airkilling and better with shotgun than any FC.
Anyway thats not so hard...
Want to prove this in game? FC is willing to take you up on this claim. Hit me up on xfire if you are. I won't discuss it in this thread further.
Is their a timing method you could use to improve timing on your shot?
Quote from: ComSharpshot on October 29, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
Is their a timing method you could use to improve timing on your shot?
It's really just a matter of practice.
Or it's a matter of calculating math (which is almost impossible in-game). A shot velocity for shotgun is 150. The pilot moves at velocity 7 and darktrooper 6 (while not flying). Take into account the distance you are from the person (farther they are, more you aim ahead), as well as the random spread of your gun (darktrooper will inevitably perform better at long range with shotgun, at close range it can go either way).
Oh ok so what your are saying is aim and practice is the best timing methods?
Quote from: ComSharpshot on October 29, 2012, 07:45:35 PM
Oh ok so what your are saying is aim and practice is the best timing methods?
There are way too many factors at play to explain everything. Other 'timing' considerations you have to keep in mind are reload time (1.75 seconds for shotgun and it can often jam if you switch weapons during this timer). As well as pistol overheat and recharge. Shot delay is also 1.0 second, etc.
If you want a better understanding of how the timers work I suggest looking through the shotgun odfs and ordnances.
another tip, ppl often fire shotgun bursts once per second as this is the minimum time in between shots. So they burn through a whole clip in 6 seconds, and experienced players can easily catch on to this rytham and "duck behind cover" every second. So my advice is spread you shots out over more time, wait 1.5 seconds, then 1 second, then 1.7, keep randomizing it. and use pistol in between shots for maximum efficeiny.
the best strategy for weapons with long reload and shot delay is to not fall into timing patterns an opponent can easily recognize and adapt to always play unpredictable as you can
Alright I think that on that note this topic has solved. Thank you to everyone for the help... Plz don't lock for future references :tu:
No thxnaks, I leanred how to airkilled long time ago, ure too late.
U have to
Both are prbz the best air killers in swbf. @Elite yeah everyone fais sometimes every SirPimped so its not that unusual.
Quote from: Phobos on October 29, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
It's really just a matter of practice.
Or it's a matter of calculating math (which is almost impossible in-game). A shot velocity for shotgun is 150. The pilot moves at velocity 7 and darktrooper 6 (while not flying). Take into account the distance you are from the person (farther they are, more you aim ahead), as well as the random spread of your gun (darktrooper will inevitably perform better at long range with shotgun, at close range it can go either way).
You don't have to make it like rocket science like that. As long as you have played the game enough (which isn't a lot to figure out how far ahead one would have to aim so the target walks into the shot) it's pretty easy. The nice thing about this game is that you can actually see the bullets and move out of the way just barely (except for the Droideka).
As for taking out a flying Republic Jet, the greatest threat is their EMP Launcher if you are in direct combat with them. If you are not in direct combat with a Jet and you are "sniping" (doesn't have to be with the sniper rifle) it is still a bit difficult because Rep. Jet's are more versatile compared to a DT who's jumps are very predictable and if you are not directly in combat with them you can get them at their zenith since that is when they slow down momentarily. Not to mention after facing enough DT's and using them yourself you get the general feel about their speed and can make better predictions and calculations about how early to fire.
But it is rocket science
Quote from: Roxas on November 08, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
You don't have to make it like rocket science like that. As long as you have played the game enough (which isn't a lot to figure out how far ahead one would have to aim so the target walks into the shot) it's pretty easy. The nice thing about this game is that you can actually see the bullets and move out of the way just barely (except for the Droideka).
As for taking out a flying Republic Jet, the greatest threat is their EMP Launcher if you are in direct combat with them. If you are not in direct combat with a Jet and you are "sniping" (doesn't have to be with the sniper rifle) it is still a bit difficult because Rep. Jet's are more versatile compared to a DT who's jumps are very predictable and if you are not directly in combat with them you can get them at their zenith since that is when they slow down momentarily. Not to mention after facing enough DT's and using them yourself you get the general feel about their speed and can make better predictions and calculations about how early to fire.
I disagree cuz I think the DT is more versatile than Clone Jet. I can get more places with it and it is far less predictable to shoot mid-air than a clone jet which is easy in comparison. I think you might have the two units confused play online enough and u will see the speed boost to movement of the dark trooper is much harder to predict in the hands of a skilled player.
And I can also say the shotgun is the preferred weapon over EMP launcher in the hands of a skilled player. More ammo, faster velocity, the EMP launcher is only better if you depend on splash damage for kills (or if enemy units are clustered in places such as FF).
I agree with Phobos. The Dark Trooper is much more difficult to hit for people just starting out because they are much faster, and their patterns can be unpredictable. As he said, Dark Trooper in the hands of a skilled player would beat out the Clone Jet Trooper. The Clone jet would not be able to get close enough to the Dark trooper to use the EMP launcher. The uncapped pistol might be the only advantage Clone jet has over Dark Trooper.
I said if after awhile, you work out the distances by experience. Of course if one was just starting out they would have a hard time. Really all that it comes down to is practice in the end.
Quote from: Roxas on November 09, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
I said if after awhile, you work out the distances by experience. Of course if one was just starting out they would have a hard time. Really all that it comes down to is practice in the end.
of course, over time you may learn how to put a man on mars. Doesn't mean that it's easier than putting a man on the moon.