Mod maps won't be until later anyway. I'll do my best to find a way for you not to use them. Is it a problem where one of your players can't use them or you just don't want to?

Quote from: {212} =-Norris-= on August 15, 2012, 06:49:27 AM
Ill join too if it isnt to late 

Theres still another 2 weeks to go and people are welcome to join and work their way up from the bottom during the tournament.

Thank you and I'm glad we could work this out. I'll add your name back now. Theres plenty of time to add new maps later in the tournament to keep things entertaining so I'll definately consider that.
Edit: If Nino wants to come back now the rules have been clarified that would be good to see.

Quote from: SleepKiller on August 15, 2012, 05:20:24 AM
Four words tournament map.

After the past few days I think you're right. If you're happy for me to use your Cloud city map I will have it for the top 10 after the first 2 weeks assuming that no one has any issues with that.

I said twilight skins were ok if both teams agreed when you first asked about the rule over X-fire. I removed your name because I thought thats what you wanted. I'll gladly put it back if you're happy with the current rules. I just want to have as many people involved as possible and have a good time.

Edit: Sorry posted at the same time as others. I'm not feeling well at the moment and I'm half asleep. Whatever happens this is just game and I wish you the best of luck and will gladly join your tournament.

Quote from: Phobos on August 15, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
So now you're letting everyone else except me use mod map skins? Really goes to show how you were just looking for a reason to exclude FC members. Nobody can claim they respect my cloud city skin mods when they exclude people from participating for using them. Thank god you will never be getting mmsc this just thread goes to show how far people can take contributions for granted.

I said anyone can use the twilight mod skin if both teams agree (I've talked to Sev about this and he agrees). I'm not sure how that excludes FC members members, or what they have to do with this sorry if I wasn't clear. Out of interest is it just the twilight skin you want to use or other mods?

I'll update the list again now. Thanks to everyone who's still joining.
It seems the people for and against mod skins are pretty much even but it's easy enough to turn off. I will say this for the final time; I have every respect for the mods that are made for this game but if the lighting is changed on a map it does, even in a small way, change the gameplay. If both players/teams are happy I don't mind if it's used though. If players request it videos might have to be made but thats alot of effort for players so I want to avoid it.

I hope everyone can just get along and enjoy the tournament, I only started it for fun and that seems to be something I'm not getting out of it anymore but hopefully others will.

If people have any changes they want to the rules/I've missed something please continue to let me know, the only thing I'm considering changing at the moment is to do with the request for a mod map for the top players later in the tournament.

Quote from: [YAK]ComFrost on August 14, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
I think that I would like to join, if I can find the time and the ICW is over. Would it be alright if I use Regent's common.lvl?

Is that the custom crosshair? Talk to me over X-fire of you want.

Quote from: Rajsombath on August 14, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
Can I join the individual tournament

Of course everyones welcome. I'll add you as Rajsombath if you want your other name just edit your post.

Quote from: SleepKiller on August 14, 2012, 02:18:40 PM
This is why I had the matches take place inside an addon map. I mean who visits this site who hasn't installed one? And it is the only truly reliable method of stopping people from cheating. Taking screenshots can be gotten around, I won't be saying how but it can be beat quite easily.

I'm aware of that but I want to encourage new users. I'm sorry if people feel they're being ignored I'm just trying to balance everyones opinions.

It would be up to the players involved to say before the match how much they wanted checked. On request there would be admins available and players would have to take screenshots. It's not a route I want to go down as I believe most people will stick to the rules which is why I'm leaving it as a choice. For later in the tournament I'm looking at using a mod map for the top 10 as requested by some people.

Quote from: Phobos on August 14, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
If you do decide to allow twilight map skins, then the roster for our 4v4 will include Fate, Nino, Elite, and myself.

The rule is staying but if the team you play against agrees to use skins I don't mind. I'll leave the team up for now, if you want me to take it down just edit your post to say so and I will theres no need to send me more abuse.

Quote from: Niño on August 14, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
I concur with Phobos, if map skins aren't allowed then I will not be participating in this tournament. I'm sorry but I just can't stand the CC stock map.

I'm sorry to hear it but thank you for being honest. I had hoped to include all the regular players but finding a balance is impossible when some people wont play when there is mods. The best I can offer is that if both players agree modded skins are fine you can use them but ultimately this is a Battlefront tournament and we can only change the game so much before it becomes unfair. I'm sorry we couldn't work this out but hopefully this way some people can be happy.

Quote from: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on August 14, 2012, 12:14:37 PM
TcF Will be entering for teams!

Good to have you here

If you had let me get further than than saying 'technically no' before swearing at me and calling me a hater you might learn something. Before you logged off I was trying to say that although I don't want skins like the transparent skin if you told the person you were playing I couldn't see a problem with that skin.
I want this tournament to be more relaxed than others but I put a blanket ban on mods so that there were no 'gray areas' and so new players can enjoy it aswell. For the record I have alot of respect for the work you do and have in the past stood up for your mods but all I've done is tried to make a way for people to have a bit of extra enjoyment in this game and I don't want to be abused for it especially through private messanging when I'm not even doing anything with battlefront. (I don't mind general conversations if I'm on x-fire).
I'll take your name down but hopefully we can work this out.

Quote from: {TcF}Dr.Penguin on August 14, 2012, 11:08:13 AM
Can we add Rhen Var? A lot of people like that map..

I originally had it in the list but I can't really justify having 6 servers up all the time. Sorry.

Quote from: [LK]Merlin on August 14, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
confirmed [LK]drgn.knight

Changed. Also I see [LK] has quite a few members so maybe you could have a team aswell and show the older battlefront clans how it's done.

It will be Cloud City and Mos Eisley (says in the 'both' section of the rules). I would have liked to do more maps but I don't want to use up too much server space and I would like to keep it on the official servers. For now we will use unmodded maps since glitching and mods aren't allowed in the tournaments but if we get problems we might have to use a map like the tournament version of cloud city. I also want to avoid using addon maps so new players can join without having to learn how to use them straight away.

If this becomes a serious problem we'll have to consider mod maps but I really want this to be a simple drop in tournament.

Quote from: ✫Şђã·Żäм✫ on August 13, 2012, 06:45:33 AM
I agree. All I recommend is that the Admins don't participate in the 4v4. You cant really cheat on 1v1.

I already said I wouldn't do 4on4 and hopefully very few of the 1on1s will need admins .  Also if anyone doesn't want me or Sev to participate and doesn't want it public feel free to private message one of us.

Quote from: Commando Sev on August 12, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
Lol Gdh u forgot bout adding me that's ok but ya I'll participate

Sorry Sev I assumed you did but wanted to check with you first.