Star Wars: The Clone Wars. My favorite TV show. I feel I need to show you guys (again) the greatness of this show. I just watched the last story arc of episodes for Season 5 (season finale episodes) again and I feel I need to say that they are the best episodes ever for the Clone Wars. Now if you have access to watch all episodes of Season 5 you really should. Trust me you won't regret it. The animation is better than ever before and is more dark leading up to episode III but has some episodes that bring you back to the feel of the original trilogy. Trust me, if you haven't watched any episodes you need to do it. BUT, skip the entire droid arc. That is the one flaw in Season 5. They are good, but compared to the rest of the season, are, well :sick:
So if you don't have access to the entire season go to this page ( http://starwars.com/watch/the-clone-wars/1/full_episode/ ) and click on the episodes with a 5 in the title. Make sure to do it in order. "The Lawless" and the entire Ahsoka arc are the best episodes of the season. Have fun watching what could be, your favorite show...
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 08, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars. My favorite TV show. I feel I need to show you guys (again) the greatness of this show. I just watched the last story arc of episodes for Season 5 (season finale episodes) again and I feel I need to say that they are the best episodes ever for the Clone Wars. Now if you have access to watch all episodes of Season 5 you really should. Trust me you won't regret it. The animation is better than ever before and is more dark leading up to episode III but has some episodes that bring you back to the feel of the original trilogy. Trust me, if you haven't watched any episodes you need to do it. BUT, skip the entire droid arc. That is the one flaw in Season 5. They are good, but compared to the rest of the season, are, well :sick:
So if you don't have access to the entire season go to this page ( http://starwars.com/watch/the-clone-wars/1/full_episode/ ) and click on the episodes with a 5 in the title. Make sure to do it in order. "The Lawless" and the entire Ahsoka arc are the best episodes of the season. Have fun watching what could be, your favorite show...
I've seen this whole series from Season 1 Episode 1, Ambush. I love this series. I also like how they have darkened the nature of the show over time. I would say what I disliked about the ending, but I won't spoil the ending of the arc for everyone else. :P
General summary however, this season is the best. Though I did like the arc for Season 3, I thought it was nice.
Well as the horrible cynic that I am, I wouldn't say this show has reached brilliance, because the script is still mundane, however it's definitely going in the right direction, especially now that we're actually getting to see Anakins' downfall.
As Kit said, the one thing this series really did not need was that chain of droid based episodes.... eurgh.
I can watch Clone Wars, only from YouTube, so, sometimes it's in very chaotic order. Still 5 season was realy interesting, specialy, how character, from "SW Republic Commando" game, show up in series. His helmet, even got the same reticules :D.
Unfortunately, to get close as possible, to movie canons, creators of this series, probably have to kill all of "non movie" characters. Most sad was the death of Satine :'(. Realy unexpected and tragical event, since begining was almost humorous, with clamsy Obi-Wan...
Obi Wan is great! Also note that the Bounty Hunter armour that he wears was actually the original Boba Fett design.
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Quote from: UNIT 33 on March 09, 2013, 05:41:33 AM
Obi Wan is great! Also note that the Bounty Hunter armour that he wears was actually the original Boba Fett design.
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I CAUGHT THAT REFERENCE!!
Say, did anyone else notice in the season 3 finale, there's a crystal skull from Indiana Jones in the trandoshan's trophy room? ;)
No, I just spot Indiana Jones hat, in supply store, on Nal Hutta, where Obi-Wan, buy this helmet.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 08, 2013, 08:50:40 PM
I've seen this whole series from Season 1 Episode 1, Ambush. I love this series. I also like how they have darkened the nature of the show over time. I would say what I disliked about the ending, but I won't spoil the ending of the arc for everyone else. :P
General summary however, this season is the best. Though I did like the arc for Season 3, I thought it was nice.
I thought the ending was good! You have to remember that Anakin is still the focus of the prequels and that
(literally a spoiler, don't open if you haven't seen the episodes) [spoiler]Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order adds to Anakin's loss and eventual hate of the Jedi because of what they have become.[/spoiler]
What arc in Season 3? Or do you mean the season as a whole?
And for anybody that follows the show intensely you should listen to the podcast Rebel Force Radio, Clone Wars declassified episodes.
They use so many concept art designs. It is great to see models that Ralph Mcquarrie drew. It is really cool to see that stuff in Star Wars now.
Sereja you can't watch them on starwars.com or purchase them on iTunes?
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 07:01:29 AM
I thought the ending was good! You have to remember that Anakin is still the focus of the prequels and that
(literally a spoiler, don't open if you haven't seen the episodes) [spoiler]Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order adds to Anakin's loss and eventual hate of the Jedi because of what they have become.[/spoiler]
What arc in Season 3? Or do you mean the season as a whole?
And for anybody that follows the show intensely you should listen to the podcast Rebel Force Radio, Clone Wars declassified episodes.
They use so many concept art designs. It is great to see models that Ralph Mcquarrie drew. It is really cool to see that stuff in Star Wars now.
Sereja you can't watch them on starwars.com or purchase them on iTunes?
By arc in season 3, I meant in the finale when Ahsoka gets captured by the Trandoshans. It was an amazing arc. And for the finale (do not open the spoiler if you haven't seen the season 5 finale):
[spoiler]
I really wish she didn't leave the order, though I guess they sort of had to force her out somehow for Anakin's character to build. I guess I was just hoping it would be at a later time. Though I do hope they still include Ahsoka somehow in the 6th season, she was pretty much the main thing that attracted me to the series! (Aside from the fact it's Star Wars, of course. :P)
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Anyways though, I've seen a few declassified episodes, not too many though. I admit, Ralph McQuarrie did some amazing concepts for the Star Wars saga.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 07:01:29 AM
Sereja you can't watch them on starwars.com or purchase them on iTunes?
No, I can't watch them on starwars.com, because, I see only broken droid there :D. And of course, I can't buy on-line anything (the reason the same as with original SWBF disc).
Still, I can just download them from YouTube, and watch them with no time to time picture freeze issue.
Hey, please do not go into further detail about mildly illegitimate viewing methods... just keep it nice and vague like you have done so far.
Anyway. The script could still do with some work, but I understand the core audience is of a younger demographic, and that makes it necessary for characters to use a mundane vocabulary.
I do like how we're seeing that the public at large within the SW universe are turning on the Jedi, because it seemed a little odd in ROTS that (mostly) everyone would just accept Palpatine's lie as justification for their massacre.
I don't know, I didn't really like that Ahsoka arc in season 3 that much. I don't know why. :confused:
I have to say when the show first started in 2008 I was an Ahsoka hater ( along with Captain Rex ), but now I like both of those characters a lot.
Sereja that means you have to update your flash player. Just say update and you should be able to play the episodes. ;)
I think the script is good for the broad range of audiences they are catering to. I really like that they are addressing the "political" side of the prequels.
I was wondering, what did you guys think of the "Younglings" arc? I loved it because it felt more like the Original Trilogy etc.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
I don't know, I didn't really like that Ahsoka arc in season 3 that much. I don't know why. :confused:
I have to say when the show first started in 2008 I was an Ahsoka hater ( along with Captain Rex ), but now I like both of those characters a lot.
Sereja that means you have to update your flash player. Just say update and you should be able to play the episodes. ;)
I think the script is good for the broad range of audiences they are catering to. I really like that they are addressing the "political" side of the prequels.
I was wondering, what did you guys think of the "Younglings" arc? I loved it because it felt more like the Original Trilogy etc.
I don't know, it was alright I guess. I will mention straight out that the Jedi aren't exactly my favourite characters of Star Wars (even though that's sort of what made Star Wars unique), but clone troopers and stormtroopers have always been my favourite. Although I was disappointed there weren't alot of clones throughout the season I thought, I admit some of the episodes this season I did like. The droids arc was not needed, though I'm glad they added a commando in there just for the heck of it.
Overall, I thought the younglings arc was perhaps a bit too extended for the series (2-3 episodes I'm fine with, but a 4-5 ep arc just isn't needed in that case). I think this season probably had the most story arcs I've seen in the clone wars series as a whole.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 09, 2013, 10:44:28 AM
Overall, I thought the younglings arc was perhaps a bit too extended for the series (2-3 episodes I'm fine with, but a 4-5 ep arc just isn't needed in that case).
Pretty much what I think of about that D-squad arc.
OK, so I just watched the latest episode, and I'm not exactly pleased.
Don't click the spoiler unless you have already seen the episode, or you don't really care about the outcome of it.[spoiler]Barris Offee was killed in Order 66, how is it that she could still be in the Jedi Order after committing the crime that she did? It makes no sense. I hate how they are somewhat re-writting Star Wars history throughout this show... :dry:
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Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
Pretty much what I think of about that D-squad arc.
The D-Squad arc was pretty good I thought, it gave Fives and Echo a backstory, since they were used a fair bit in Season 3. Even Season 4 if I recall on that Umbaran arc.
Quote from: Agent Z on March 09, 2013, 12:46:46 PM
[spoiler]Barris Offee was killed in Order 66, how is it that she could still be in the Jedi Order after committing the crime that she did? It makes no sense. I hate how they are somewhat re-writting Star Wars history throughout this show... :dry:
[/spoiler]
Because none of the Star Wars canon makes much sense anyway.
Quote from: Agent Z on March 09, 2013, 12:46:46 PM
OK, so I just watched the latest episode, and I'm not exactly pleased.
Don't click the spoiler unless you have already seen the episode, or you don't really care about the outcome of it.[spoiler]Barris Offee was killed in Order 66, how is it that she could still be in the Jedi Order after committing the crime that she did? It makes no sense. I hate how they are somewhat re-writting Star Wars history throughout this show... :dry:
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]It never was shown that Baris was killed in Order 66. So she could have this role as a Jedi protestor. And you have to remember that George Lucas had to "OK" the story before they even worked on it. And when he says something can happen it is known as G-level canon and then it has happened in the Star Wars canon. Confusing but it is his story. :)[/spoiler]
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 09, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
The D-Squad arc was pretty good I thought, it gave Fives and Echo a backstory, since they were used a fair bit in Season 3. Even Season 4 if I recall on that Umbaran arc.
Ok let me re-phrase that.
IF you watch the D-squad episodes back to back to back to back then they are good. But don't spread them out (which is what they did when they aired them) because then it seems tedious. And Fives and Echo are in that arc? I don't recall them in those episodes... :confused:
Quote from: UNIT 33 on March 09, 2013, 01:28:08 PM
Because none of the Star Wars canon makes much sense anyway.
The start of that was TFU. :rant:
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 02:25:29 PM
[spoiler]It never was shown that Baris was killed in Order 66. So she could have this role as a Jedi protestor. And you have to remember that George Lucas had to "OK" the story before they even worked on it. And when he says something can happen it is known as G-level canon and then it has happened in the Star Wars canon. Confusing but it is his story. :)[/spoiler]
Ok let me re-phrase that. IF you watch the D-squad episodes back to back to back to back then they are good. But don't spread them out (which is what they did when they aired them) because then it seems tedious. And Fives and Echo are in that arc? I don't recall them in those episodes... :confused:
Well, Echo and Fives did appear in season 3, I know that. Plus, I never did notice they spread out the episodes like that. When I watched them it was back to back to back. Fives I believe is in the Umbara arc, since Echo dies at the Citadel arc of season 3. Fives leads the 501st with Rex on Umbara in Season 4, if I recall correctly.
Oh I thought you meant they were in the D-Squad arc. :slap:
Yea I like Fives, he's cool. I like all the episodes they do with the "Rookies."
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 02:33:36 PM
Oh I thought you meant they were in the D-Squad arc. :slap:
Yea I like Fives, he's cool. I like all the episodes they do with the "Rookies."
Yeah, the episodes were cool. I really wish Echo didn't die in the Citadel arc though, he was my favourite clone trooper of D-Squad (other than Heavy).
Say, quick question, what was your favourite episode/arc of Season 5? My favourite arc I would have to say was the Onderon arc, and episode, would actually have to be The Wrong Jedi (the finale), even though I disliked the ending.
Ok I get what you are trying to say. :slap:
I was saying D-Squad=Droid Squad
You were saying D-Squad=Domino Squad.
Wow. :slap:
Ok so I don't like the droid squad but I love Domino squad.
Favorite arc of Season 5? Hmm. I would have to say either the Ahsoka arc or the Darth Maul arc. They were both epic in their own way.
My favorite episode is probably "The Lawless" But I can't say for sure because I loved the episodes that featured Coruscant and the :censored: Awesome military base and underworld.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 09, 2013, 02:55:49 PMOk I get what you are trying to say.
I was saying D-Squad=Droid Squad
You were saying D-Squad=Domino Squad.
Ha. I was confused too, at first. I thought you were talking about Delta Squad. :panic:
My favorite story arc is probably... hmmm, that's tough. I really enjoyed the story arc where Obi Wan goes undercover as a bounty hunter. My favorite episode of that arc was "The Box". It really showed off some of the bounty hunters' skill.
Quote from: UNIT 33 on March 09, 2013, 01:28:08 PM
Because none of the Star Wars canon makes much sense anyway.
Yes, very good point. I enjoyed Star Wars more when I wasn't totally caught up in it. Back when everything didn't have to tie together and make sense, when I just watched it for the epic battles and duels. So, I kinda liked Star Wars back when I didn't really like Star Wars that much, if that makes any sense...
Didn't read thread, haven't been watching show but I just stopped in to ask, has Ahsoka been killed off yet?
Quote from: Joseph on March 10, 2013, 06:46:41 PM
Didn't read thread, haven't been watching show but I just stopped in to ask, has Ahsoka been killed off yet?
A far better question is: Have they cancelled it and renounced it as being canon yet?
Lol, yeah, no chance of that though, I'm sure it's quite a cash cow.
I'm going to just put this out there now, but until you watch even half the episodes that have aired you can't contribute to the discussion.
I guess you're right, kind of like how unless you have endured a gulag you can't criticize Stalinism.
For the heck of it, I will answer SK's and Joseph's questions:
No, Ahsoka has not been killed off yet. **SPOILER ALERT** She left the Jedi Council at the finale, so she may just be simply kicked off the show or will play a minor role in Season 6.
And no, the series has not been cancelled, far from it infact. They are in the process or done writing the scripts for Season 6 as of now I believe. I do not believe they have renounced it for canon yet either.
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 10, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
And no, the series has not been cancelled, far from it infact. They are in the process or done writing the scripts for Season 6 as of now I believe. I do not believe they have renounced it for canon yet either.
Oh no, on the contrary Season 6 has yet to be anounced on
ANY broadcasting network. The contract with Cartoon Network expired and (as said on Rebel Force Radio) reliable sources say that no new home is planned for the Clone Wars to be aired. They (Rebel Force Radio) are telling people to write to Disney CEO Bob Iger asking to put CW on a Disney channel.
Latest news in a nutshell.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 10, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Oh no, on the contrary Season 6 has yet to be anounced on ANY broadcasting network. The contract with Cartoon Network expired and (as said on Rebel Force Radio) reliable sources say that no new home is planned for the Clone Wars to be aired. They (Rebel Force Radio) are telling people to write to Disney CEO Bob Iger asking to put CW on a Disney channel.
Latest news in a nutshell.
All I'm saying is they had better make a Season 6, otherwise it's a pretty dark ending for a show. If the show airs on YTV or Teletoon however, I will definitely watch it live without waiting several hours for it to be posted online. (YTV and Teletoon are Canadian networks, if you didn't know already).
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 10, 2013, 07:47:58 PM
I'm going to just put this out there now, but until you watch even half the episodes that have aired you can't contribute to the discussion.
FYI I have watched the entire season one, some of season two and some of season three. My views aren't based off just having seen one or two episodes. The show is terrible, targeted at kids and it has permanently ruined SW.
These are my views and they won't be changing. Don't try to convince me otherwise it won't be happening. You can like even love the show I won't stop you or try to make you see from my view point.
Quote from: SleepKiller on March 10, 2013, 08:46:12 PM
FYI I have watched the entire season one, some of season two and some of season three. My views aren't based off just having seen one or two episodes. The show is terrible, targeted at kids and it has permanently ruined SW.
These are my views and they won't be changing. Don't try to convince me otherwise it won't be happening. You can like even love the show I won't stop you or try to make you see from my view point.
I strongly agree that the show is mostly targeting a younger audience, but there are a few episodes I enjoyed. I'm not trying to change your mind here SleepKiller, but the show gets a little revamp after season 3. In my opinion, the show becomes a little more geared for a broader audience, not just as a child's cartoon.
You aren't missing out on much, but if you do decide to watch some, I'd watch the Umbara arc in season 4 and the bounty hunter arc in season 5.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 10, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Oh no, on the contrary Season 6 has yet to be anounced on ANY broadcasting network. The contract with Cartoon Network expired and (as said on Rebel Force Radio) reliable sources say that no new home is planned for the Clone Wars to be aired. They (Rebel Force Radio) are telling people to write to Disney CEO Bob Iger asking to put CW on a Disney channel.
Latest news in a nutshell.
Wow you really know ur stuff man! I completely saw it coming, Ashoka was either going to die or leave.
Me and SK agree completely, trigger website self-destruct sequence
Quote from: [FC]Helios on March 10, 2013, 09:10:21 PM
Ashoka was either going to die or leave.
How could you tell?
Quote from: Agent Z on March 10, 2013, 08:58:53 PM
but the show gets a little revamp after season 3. In my opinion, the show becomes a little more geared for a broader audience, not just as a child's cartoon.
This is true.
Quote from: [FC]Helios on March 10, 2013, 09:10:21 PM
Wow you really know ur stuff man! I completely saw it coming, Ashoka was either going to die or leave.
I learned that from listening to Rebel Force Radio Podcast. The Star Wars podcast that I told people about but no one checked it out. :slap:
Quote from: Joseph on March 10, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
Me and SK agree completely, trigger website self-destruct sequence
How could you tell?
How about when you agree with
anybody! ;)
People think Ahsoka should die/ leave for canon purposes. But I'm open to anything!
Quote from: Joseph on March 10, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
Me and SK agree completely, trigger website self-destruct sequence
How could you tell?
Oh oh sometimes i get a feeling that i never never know.
Quote from: Kit Fisto on March 10, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
This is true.I learned that from listening to Rebel Force Radio Podcast. The Star Wars podcast that I told people about but no one checked it out. :slap:
I just checked earlier sunday, they got thier site
(link) (http://www.shotglassdigital.com/artist/rebelforceradio/) set up nicely and have proper mp3 versions of the show (and a nice rss to feed them to me. I just havent listened to them yet.)
They have a pretty good number of shows dealing specificly with Ashoka. I may start lising to them regularly, but probably won't watch the tv show.
I'm glad you checked it out Tirpider!
Yes the last couple of Clone Wars discussions have dealt with Ahsoka because she is the main character of the Season finale. But the weekly episodes discuss more of Star Wars as a whole. :)
Ya may wanna check this out:
http://starwars.com/news/a-new-direction-for-lucasfilm-animation.html
I'l let the link speak for itself. :P
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 11, 2013, 11:04:38 AM
Ya may wanna check this out:
http://starwars.com/news/a-new-direction-for-lucasfilm-animation.html
I'l let the link speak for itself. :P
I think the next season is going to wrap-up SW:CW by the looks of that video. For those of you who don't want to watch the sneakpeak, a clone kills a Jedi in-battle and the Seperatist officer contacts Count Dooku, most likely to make a brilliant plan to eliminate the Jedi. (Order 66)
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on March 11, 2013, 11:04:38 AM
Ya may wanna check this out:
http://starwars.com/news/a-new-direction-for-lucasfilm-animation.html
Well that news is sad to me. At least they are finishing up the season. This show was truly a gem in terms of Star Wars TV. About Detours, that didn't look funny to me anyway. Robot Chicken Star Wars is way better.
But that ends Star Wars The Clone Wars. I feel like Disney is pushing hard to move away from anything prequel. :'(
Quote from: Shazam on March 11, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
I think the next season is going to wrap-up SW:CW by the looks of that video. For those of you who don't want to watch the sneakpeak, a clone kills a Jedi in-battle and the Seperatist officer contacts Count Dooku, most likely to make a brilliant plan to eliminate the Jedi. (Order 66)
Just when I thought they had screwed up the story of SW as much as they could... Well time to keep working on my non-
SW map that is completely unrelated to what once was a great story.
One last thing though. Why the terrible animation in the show? (Both quality wise and style wise.) I mean could they seriously not afford animation that was better than what Crysis could render? And how old is Crysis now? And yet somehow it's visual capabilities are better than a pre-rendered show from a year after it was released.
It's the shows style.
Why doesn't South Park have animation?
There are times when the art style of something doesn't need to be realistic looking in anyway and it looks pleasing to the eye. Example Team Fortress 2 once again a game that came out before the show, yet it to seems to be capable of pulling off character models that don't look chunky and lifeless.
Basically the style of the show is terrible their is no point in denying it. During the first season when I sort-of liked the show before I began bothering to actually think about it properly I could see that the art style was terrible, my friends could see the art style was terrible heck my sister just now agreed with me that the art style is terrible.
Quote from: SleepKiller on March 11, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
There are times when the art style of something doesn't need to be realistic looking in anyway and it looks pleasing to the eye. Example Team Fortress 2 once again a game that came out before the show, yet it to seems to be capable of pulling off character models that don't look chunky and lifeless.
Basically the style of the show is terrible their is no point in denying it. During the first season when I sort-of liked the show before I began bothering to actually think about it properly I could see that the art style was terrible, my friends could see the art style was terrible heck my sister just now agreed with me that the art style is terrible.
The art isn't amazing that is true, but the fight scenes are rather enjoyable.
Anyways, I finished season five last night and as for Ahsoka...[spoiler]I'm glad she is out of the picture. It leads up to RotS and it opens open novel possibilities for her. I'm rather curious of what she does after she leaves the order. It's obvious she wouldn't have died because everybody knows how Anakin would have reacted to her death. But for Bariss.....I disliked the idea of her being the culprit. I've read the MedStar books and she is really nice. Bariss would not act this way at all. It is a complete perversion of her personality. Plus, if she did commit those crimes, then how did she avoid the jail time? She was supposed to have been killed during Order 66 on Felucia; blasted to smithereens by a AT-TE. Why would have Ahsoka been imprisoned and most likely sentenced to death but not Offee?[/spoiler]
The way the season ended conflicts with previous character information.