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I really like history and so I am going to make a swbf mac clan history timeline but I need some help with the older clans. Could you please send me some links of there sites or just tell me anything helpful about them? Before Feburary 29th is what I need? Thanks for all of your help! First off if anyone knows who formed ELD,  JCA, ICG and the original IAS that would be much appreciated. Aany oher info on swbf mac clanes being would be awesome also! The more names of members the better!

The Clan's i've heard of are: Legends, IAS, BHF, ACW, AOC, RC, CIS, REP, HTF and DDT.  

I think I could help you out with this  

The first clan to ever form over the original site (I think it was on SWBFmac, maybe earlier) was the original {ACW} started by Gamer9er.  Shortly after that, Commando Cheese started (IGC).  {ACW} = Arc Warriors, (IGC) = Intergalactic Commandos

For awhile those two clans were the most dominant.  (IGC) later was the one to come out on top, but when they started to decline, {ACW} kind of took over in a way.  (IGC) was in its prime when we (yea i was in it) had Cheese, NF, Hairy Beast, Jack the Knife, me, and a few others who might be still around here.  Imo it started going downhill when Cheese and NF left.

JCA was originally formed by Yatter I think as a third clan to the original giants at the time, ACW and IGC.  Didn't start out too great, but later on, they were the only real clan to challenge ELD.

I can't really give you a detailed history on all this, since I wasn't around for ALL of it.  I know that Gamer9er formed the first Mac clan {ACW}, and Commando Cheese formed (IGC) shortly afterwards.  Those two eventually combined to form <IAS>.  <IAS>'s original leaders were Jack the Knife, Minor Fwan, and Realization (Broken Reality).

[ELD] is what I would consider the BEST Mac clan to ever play.  Imo of course.  They had the best individual skill and some truly amazing teamwork.  I think it was Commando Cheese and Nightfalcon who originally started it, but there was some feud between Cheese and NF, and Cheese left so NF took over.  I know wrath, raje, and a few others were on that team, and there really wasn't a "leader", but if you had to pick one, I'd say Nightfalcon was the real leader of that team.

Those are some info on the older clans.  Hoped it helped.  I'm sure some other old members here could give you more detailed history on all that though.

i would have to say, as i recall GF was the only clan to ever beat ELD? and they were also here in the time of JCA/ACW/IGC.

GF never beat ELD.

GF was another clan that broke off of IGC. I think it is a testament to IGC that ELD, JCA, and GF were all formed as splinters of IGC.

GF was lead by "Da Bomb" AKA Stealth. Second in command was trinidad.

The ACW we have today is NOT the original but rather a second clan formed by...I forget. But it is important to remember this IS NOT the old ACW. IAS has the old ACW as part of it. This was made a while after ACW and IGC merged into IAS.

IGC and ACW merged to form IAS. Tombolo, Jack, MF, and BR were the leaders.

I was here in the glory days of IGC under the name rawblade

Quote from: "iBlade"GF never beat ELD.

GF was another clan that broke off of IGC. I think it is a testament to IGC that ELD, JCA, and GF were all formed as splinters of IGC.

GF was lead by "Da Bomb" AKA Stealth. Second in command was trinidad.

The ACW we have today is NOT the original but rather a second clan formed by...I forget. But it is important to remember this IS NOT the old ACW. IAS has the old ACW as part of it. This was made a while after ACW and IGC merged into IAS.

IGC and ACW merged to form IAS. Tombolo, Jack, MF, and BR were the leaders.

I was here in the glory days of IGC under the name rawblade :O   How could I... lol.  I remember you too blade.  I think you came around right at the tail end of the "glory days"     Imo if the new ACW comes back they should come up with a new name.  Thats my opinion of course, they can do whatever they want  :p  But my opinion is that a team should come up with a new name if NONE of the original members of the old team are still around.  

I remember IGC tried to make a comeback.  Cheese and I tried to do it, but it failed, because Cheese left and I honestly didn't have time to lead a clan, so it just didn't work out.

When ACW was REformed- by as i recall Gamer9er (Firespray should know?) and Turkle, it did have Original members, just not all of them from what i was told.

I was told by Wrath that GF was the only one to beat ELD ever, that is why i said it happened, ill ask him for clarification.

He may have been joking.

But yeah the Old ACW is part of IAS, the ACW we have today is a version 2.0.

Quote from: "Hardcore"When ACW was REformed- by as i recall Gamer9er (Firespray should know?) and Turkle, it did have Original members, just not all of them from what i was told.

I was told by Wrath that GF was the only one to beat ELD ever, that is why i said it happened, ill ask him for clarification.

O yea I remember.  SchTicK may have also been an original member idk.

The way I heard it regarding ELD and GF was that GF won one map, but lost the match overall.

I guess I will fill you in on the clan known as (DB). It was started by a guy named Daa Bob who I think didn't pass the tryouts for IAS and ACW. He basically just went on to Gameranger inviting anyone he met to join the clan, and I happened to be the first. I accepted because I thought I was too weak to join IAS or ACW, and thought it would be cool to be second in command. Because I was the first player to join we discussed what our clan name should be. We couldn't think of anything and I said let's just call our clan Daa Bobs for now until we think of something better. He agreed, and we never really did think of anything better, so the name stuck.

The first other player that joined DB that I remember was Bullwinkle Boy, but he was inactive. We did get a decent amount of dedicated new players and our main roster included: Me, Daa Bob, Khyler, Ciceor, Niddo, Tomaszl, and Scicor. TP joined our ranks for a time too, but wasn't quite active enough to make it to any practices or matches. We had "practices" like going to Utapau sinkhole and jetting to the bottom of the hole, but we did go try out VS's training map to hone our sniping skills.

We faced IAS and ACW both once and got totally crushed, like by more than 600 tickets each. DB (0-2)

We were in the process of scheduling a match with BHF, but Khyler and a few others regular members decided to break off from DB. Daa Bob was almost completely inactive, and I decided to join BHF. The rest of  DB seemed to do the same or just leave completely.

Wow Thanks for all this info! So then ACW was the first swbf mac clan made?

Well, as the leader of BHF, I guess I better give you some history on it..

I formed the clan out of boredom on Janurary 30th 2008, after a while I managed to get w0rm (dawn) to join, I have no idea how I got this name, but I remember one of w0rms suggests "WJO, w0rms jedi order" xD

Anyway, we tried hard at recruiting people for the next month or so, we got quite a few members too, they just never stuck around. We recruited Ryanoceros sometime in that period, and he stuck with us.

Around April or something, whenever DB dissolved, Niddo (whatever happened to him? he rocked) and MZ joined the clan, same with Toothpicks and that's when we really began to kick off, we faced ACW, got beaten, even though it was quite a good match. Those were the good old days, even if we were bad

Stuff happened, I think we faced IAS as well...we lost, and w0rm and I decided to disband BHF sometime in July

September/October I restarted BHF, much to my suprise most of the old members joined up, along with some new additions like tomaszl

A few months later, who knows when...we faced IAS, won the first half, but the second half is yet to come around...we wre supposed to face Legends too, but i have no clue where that went, the clan bbroke up anyway.

BHF is still kicking..just not as active...BREAKING NEWS: w0rm rejoins BHF!!

Hurrah! w0rm is back!

Quote from: "Master Zen"The first other player that joined DB that I remember was Bullwinkle Boy, but he was inactive. We did get a decent amount of dedicated new players and our main roster included: Me, Daa Bob, Khyler, Ciceor, Niddo, Tomaszl, and Scicor. TP joined our ranks for a time too, but wasn't quite active enough to make it to any practices or matches. We had "practices" like going to Utapau sinkhole and jetting to the bottom of the hole, but we did go try out VS's training map to hone our sniping skills.

@Rex, Yes ACW was the first clan, but not the ACW around now. The one around now is the "new" ACW, which was formed and joined by old ELD member basically.
@Zen Tomaszl was not in DB. I recruited him close to when he joined Gameranger for ISP/GSC. He was not in DB. Btw, Ciceor is awesome. Also: Shroomlover, and a couple other really good actives in DB you missed.

Quote from: "Red"I wasn't here when IGC first started, but I joined a few months after. There really is a lot to talk about. Basically, the first two mac clans were ACW and IGC and we had plenty of matches, with IGC winning the majority. IGC was, in a way, the metaphorical "Empire" of mac gaming. We dominated all games and were composed of the absolute best. Months passed like this, during the old "glory days" of mac SWBF gaming (from the late beginning to a few months after the creation of the clans), but it wouldn't last. One thing lead to another, one of our members left and formed a new clan and things spiraled down from there. I believe that just before that mac clan gaming started to become less of a casual, "let's all have a good time", atmosphere into another one where the point was to win and stay loyal to your clan and nothing else. It eventually got very nasty within IGC, and I won't deny that I was part of that reason, with me being completely insane and fanatical about IGC. Eventually, Cheese had to leave for some military business he had in Iraq (I think? correct me if I'm wrong) and leadership was left to NF. After that, ELD was formed and convinced a lot of the older (and mostly better) players to leave IGC and join ELD. Tombolo managed to keep us together, though, and we joined with the old ACW to make IAS. The rest is history.

^^ Red explained it better than I did.  He was in IGC back when he was known as Frank Kenobi 3.0 I think  XD

Quote from: "Captain Rex"Wow Thanks for all this info! So then ACW was the first swbf mac clan made?

Correct.  It was formed by Gamer9er, my little bro.  He was the first member to join the original site besides the Admins (Zak, Weili, Jedikiller) themselves.

This is ACW II roster in December of 2007.

1.   SchTicK   Team Leader
   2.   ~NF~   Team Co-Leader
   3.   Hardcore   ARC Warrior
   4.   SkwrlX   ARC Warrior
   5.   {ACW} Duke Leto   ARC Warrior
   6.   Winner D   ARC Warrior
   7.   Jedikiller   ARC Warrior
   8.   {ACW} Pi Man   ARC Warrior
   9.   ckilla   ARC Warrior
   10.   Peace   ARC Warrior
   11.   millz   ARC Warrior
   12.   G Dog   ARC Warrior
   13.   {ACW} Terrikiel   ARC Warrior
   14.   =SantaWrath=   ARC Warrior
   15.   Droideka   ARC Warrior
   16.   diablo   ARC Warrior

At this time Terrikiel (who recruited me) had handed the reins over to NightFalcon and myself. I didn't realize Gamer9 had also helped resurrect ACW, not sure why he's not on this list, sry Gamer9.  So original members of the original ACW did start ACW II.

I'll post more info when I get home and have more reference.

Oh, I don't remember ever beating ELD, I was a member of GF for their entire run. Not even 1 map.

Just so Rex dosnt get confused, those ACW's are the current ones, not the first ACW clan members. The only guy still around from the first ACW is Minor Fwan i think.

Thanks Khyler! Does anyone know about IAS in its begining or about the arrangments of the combination?

the old ACW and IGC Combined to make IAS. Later, the new, current ACW was formed from a bunch of old ELD members mostly.

Also: What about cheese's clan that was only for the best of the best...?

@Zen: DB Members also: Simon (Yes, the one on mpc), Noah, thats all i can remember right now.

As I remember, ELD conceded a map to GF because of server problems. As such, GF got the highest score anyone had ever gotten against ELD.

iPro was a failed idea, trying to make a team that could play PC clans and win. They didn't suceed, primarily because all of them were not used to playing with each other.

Um I think I can shed some more light on DB seeing how I created it XD

After We decided to play IAS. So we tried to implement practices however no one ever showed up so that was a bust. Then we played IAS and got pwned yet again. After, I had some huge real life problems and went pretty much inactive and everyone went their seperate ways.

The End

dont forgot those squad things you know when frank kenobia quit gave leader to some1 else and thats when frenchie came along and kicked all our ******

Also GF played JCA and well Yatter used a gamepad and basically did very good which lead to them winning... Although before Yatter used a GP we were winning and well won the first 2 games. but JCA won in the end because of yatters Gamepad

Quote from: "Captain Rex"Thanks Khyler! :P).

IAS was given (and me in particular) a hard time by ELD, who wouldn't fight us because our name was IAS Alliance. They said Alliances weren't legitimate and basically made a post saying that wouldn't play us.  Alliance was really part of the name just to signify where we came from. They were being a little dumb imo

Things between IAS members and ELD escalated, eventually Tom confronted them in one thread, me in another.  We were both insulted and degraded, though it was partially our though, and I do believe taht it was the more angry members of ELD who went after us, some of the other Elders apologized. Thats when I went inactive, and I think Tom did too.

IAS had a pretty good track record I do believe.

ACW 2 was not "reformed and basically joined by ELD"....for a good long while it didn't have any Eld in it, i may be incorrect about Gamer9er helping reform it tho, that was just a train of thought, we can always ask .

Also Schtick, G Dog, was a alias that Gamer9er went by and he is on the roster.

NF was the first Eld member to join, and a while after Wrath and Millz joined, otherwise tho no ELD joined ACW.

Quote from: "Hardcore"ACW 2 was not "reformed and basically joined by ELD"....for a good long while it didn't have any Eld in it, i may be incorrect about Gamer9er helping reform it tho, that was just a train of thought, we can always ask ;)

I think G9 did have a part in reforming it, but that part was:

Turkle (or whoever decided to do it): Hey, G Dog, wanna reform ACW
G9: Sure.

And thats it.  Lol.  G9 isn't exactly active anymore.  He was considering coming back like I did a few weeks ago, but decided not to.  O well, maybe someday he will.

Also, he got the name G Dog because when MXG was first formed, G9 was "back" and was invited to be a Moderator, which he accepted, and he said he wanted to change his name, and Wrath suggested he should go by "G-Dog".  So he did  

REM was a clan that has not been mentioned yet. ACW II absorbed several members of REM in November of 2007. I'm not sure how long REM was active. Here is most likely a partial roster: JediKiller, Toothpicks, Ghost, =Millz=, Stealth, PiMan, Mach Clone, Velocity.

More Partial Rosters:
DB/GLT  —  May 2008
Tomaszl, Sarg, Daa Bob, John and Dan, Master Zen, Larz, Viper, Ciceor, Khyler

BHF  —  May 2008
Breakdown, w0rm, Ryanoceros, Niddo, Master Zen

IAS  —  February 2008  —  Present
Siler 40, Shadow, Macbeezle, Yankee, Minor Fwan, The Beast, Wolfclaw, Stealth, Destructor, Sith Lord, Larz, Inert

Besides the SWGC/MXG/MPC clans were there any more clans in the 2 years before ACW?

Quote from: "SchTicK"More Partial Rosters:
DB/GLT  —  May 2008
Tomaszl, Sarg, Daa Bob, John and Dan, Master Zen, Larz, Viper, Ciceor, Khyler

Ok, let me clear this up. After DB broke up, i started a new clan ISP, with Toothpicks, and it was later renamed to GSC (anyone remember Donkeycow? ISP member) I recruited Tomaszl into GSC and it was his first clan. Later that year, a fewmonths after DB broke up, me and Bob decided to start a re-make of GLT, which tomaszl joined because he was in my clan.

Quote from: "SchTicK"IAS  —  February 2008  —  Present
Siler 40, Shadow, Macbeezle, Yankee, Minor Fwan, The Beast, Wolfclaw, Stealth, Destructor, Sith Lord, Larz, Inert

Aaaaaand me D:

Dont forget about _(VS)_, we had a short little debut into the mac gaming world, i even recruited Toothpicks at one point in time  

Quote from: "Captain Rex"Besides the SWGC/MXG/MPC clans were there any more clans in the 2 years before ACW?

Before ACW I?

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Quote from: "SchTicK"IAS  —  February 2008  —  Present
Siler 40, Shadow, Macbeezle, Yankee, Minor Fwan, The Beast, Wolfclaw, Stealth, Destructor, Sith Lord, Larz, Inert

Aaaaaand me D:

lol Sorry for leaving you off the list iBlade, I guess I never faced you in battle, I took those names off the score screen captures from several ACW vs IAS matches

Quote from: "iBlade"

Quote from: "Captain Rex"Besides the SWGC/MXG/MPC clans were there any more clans in the 2 years before ACW?

Before ACW I?

I believe that is exactly what Rex means. And I do not believe there were any Mac clans before SWGC.

SWGC wasnt first. swbfmac was. But yeah, ACW was formed, and withing 2 days (?) IGC arrived.

Quote from: "iBlade"SWGC wasnt first. swbfmac was. But yeah, ACW was formed, and withing 2 days (?) IGC arrived.

Actually webmofi/SWBF GR Discussion was first    I doubt anyone remembers that.  (Besides JK and MAYBE a few others)

Thats about right about ACW and IGC though.  ACW was first but IGC came shortly afterward.  Everyone here can all thank G9 for starting the whole clan thing.  If he didn't step up and volunteer to start one, a lot of these clans would have probably never existed.  I'm pretty sure Cheese made IGC to compete with ACW.

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Quote from: "iBlade"SWGC wasnt first. swbfmac was. But yeah, ACW was formed, and withing 2 days (?) IGC arrived.

Actually webmofi/SWBF GR Discussion was first    I doubt anyone remembers that.  (Besides JK and MAYBE a few others)

Thats about right about ACW and IGC though.  ACW was first but IGC came shortly afterward.  Everyone here can all thank G9 for starting the whole clan thing.  If he didn't step up and volunteer to start one, a lot of these clans would have probably never existed.  I'm pretty sure Cheese made IGC to compete with ACW.

Webmofi was just a map list though, right?

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Quote from: "iBlade"SWGC wasnt first. swbfmac was. But yeah, ACW was formed, and withing 2 days (?) IGC arrived.

Actually webmofi/SWBF GR Discussion was first  :) ) I started posting when MXG started.

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Quote from: "FirespraY"

Quote from: "iBlade"SWGC wasnt first. swbfmac was. But yeah, ACW was formed, and withing 2 days (?) IGC arrived.

Actually webmofi/SWBF GR Discussion was first  :) ) I started posting when MXG started.

SWBF GR Discussion was the original name of the old forum I think.  They just changed the name to SWBFmac Forums or something.

Ahhh... the good old days.Where did it all go  

It went from webmofi>swbfmac>swgc>macxgamers>mpcgamers AFAIK. The chameleon website lol.