I was wondering what programs are best for filming in-game and editing the films. I have xfire but the quality of the film is really bad. I also have Windows Movie maker which does its job... I have no intention of buying something, I don't think I will be making that many films. So anything you can suggest that is a free program would be a plus.
For Recording --> FRAPS
For editing --> Sony Vegas Pro
Quote from: {U.E.F}Immor†al Anyder on January 28, 2013, 11:41:47 AM
For Recording --> FRAPS
For editing --> Sony Vegas Pro
Imovie ;) its all that macs are good for
I believe Xfire and Windows Movie Maker produce videos that are a standard quality of 360p. If you are looking for HD like 720p or 1080p, then I suggest recording with Fraps. Windows Movie Maker should be able to produce HD videos, if the source videos are HD.
Quote from: [FC]Helios on January 28, 2013, 01:03:20 PM
Imovie ;) its all that macs are good for
Ok I guess all I have to do is buy a mac now :happy:
Quote from: {212th} Norris on January 28, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
Ok I guess all I have to do is buy a mac now :happy:
lol its only $650+ :shrug:
NCH software used to carry original VideoPad editor, it qas nice and HD, it had lots of effects and you could save MANY formats and in differnt custom quality, but since then, NCH has updated it, and it's really lame now...
I think I still have a setup.exe for it, but ill have to look on my pc to find it.
I'll edit post and upload it if I ever find it :D
For recording desktop, I made my own tool :P
but fraps works for ingame best.
Quote from: {U.E.F}Immor†al Anyder on January 28, 2013, 11:41:47 AM
For Recording --> FRAPS
For editing --> Sony Vegas Pro
lol Anyder your kinda wrong here, fraps does record but, if you dont have the registered version (Paying money) Then you only have 30 sec. max recording time and fraps watermark etc.
Also Sony Vegas Pro is eh on the free thing. I wouldn't just go out and download it because then you can get into some legal issues. Honestly if you aren't making movies/ videos for a profestion or for big youtube channel thing, xfire is the best way to go :)
On the high-end video editing side, I'm a huge fan of premiere pro. It integrates well with the other Adobe applications (After Effects, Photoshop, etc), and I overall enjoy using in my video class in school. On the downside, it's 800 dollars. However IMO it's completely worth the price. It's an absolute blast to play with.
On the free side, I would recommend using virtualdub. While it's not the most user friendly program, it has the powerful editing tools that you need to get H.264 video ready for YouTube. And it's free!
Buy Fraps. Yes, it's 30 dollars. But it's the best game recording program I've used and there's quite a lot of bad ones out there. It records everything perfectly frame by frame. Get fraps. There's no free substitute worth mentioning.
Quote from: [FC]Helios on January 28, 2013, 01:03:20 PM
Imovie ;) its all that macs are good for
iMovie is terrible. Absolutely terrible. Even for beginner use it's always been a hassle. I always find it interesting how people are just able to use it regularly.
In general, Macs aren't the uncontended leader for the creative business anymore now that Windows has been stable enough to have their applications be just as capable (grammar issues in this sentence, idc). I currently edit video and do photoshop on a my PC and it's far less of a headache than on my Mac.
I second the use of Fraps. Buy it. You may not think twice about dropping a few dollars for a game--so why not get the pay version of Fraps. I have had it for about 5 years. They update it constantly and it will always work for you ;)
camtasia works fine for me
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on January 28, 2013, 04:35:20 PM
NCH software used to carry original VideoPad editor, it qas nice and HD, it had lots of effects and you could save MANY formats and in differnt custom quality, but since then, NCH has updated it, and it's really lame now...
I think I still have a setup.exe for it, but ill have to look on my pc to find it.
I'll edit post and upload it if I ever find it :D
For recording desktop, I made my own tool :P
but fraps works for ingame best.
Sweet thanks :D
I will have to look into fraps and consider :P
Found a setup that I saved to my flash drive, I have a version less (but better IMO) than the current one here, but I cannot seem to locate it, nevertheless, this should fulfill all over your needs.
Edit: Needs being video EDITING of course :P
(If I find the better version I'll reupload it to this link)
https://sites.google.com/site/swbfmoddingacademy/swbf-mods/vpsetup_v2.41.rar?attredirects=0&d=1
Wow thanks RC! Just opened the program and it looks very professional.
Maybe ure who is wrong.
FRAPS Work perfectly on any PC and there's a free ''extended'' version (if u want it contact me, I think I got it somewhere)
And Sony Vegas Pro, ---> I think there are other verions which are free...
FRAPS is not free, if you want to have more than 30 sec. of video/ Don't want legal problems. I'll copy what it says on fraps thing about unregistered and copy it below
(it seems i cant copy directly so i will paraphrase}
(for unregistered)loop recording disabled
fraps watermark
maximum of 30 sec. recording
screenshots saved to BMP format
Most of these no problem if you are just recording for fun, but with only 30 sec. of recording, you can only make montages (very hard to press F9 and then kill someone but eh.) Not a problem if you can deal with all of that though.
Quote from: {212}FrenchFryZ on January 29, 2013, 02:42:23 PM
FRAPS is not free, if you want to have more than 30 sec. of video/ Don't want legal problems. I'll copy what it says on fraps thing about unregistered and copy it below
(it seems i cant copy directly so i will paraphrase}
(for unregistered)loop recording disabled
fraps watermark
maximum of 30 sec. recording
screenshots saved to BMP format
Most of these no problem if you are just recording for fun, but with only 30 sec. of recording, you can only make montages (very hard to press F9 and then kill someone but eh.) Not a problem if you can deal with all of that though.
I wonder if there are any GML tools or scripts I can use to create an in-game recorder, I must look into this. . .
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U can change that buttom LOL xD :rofl:
This from the site as well:
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Thank you for your interest in Fraps! Registration enhances the program and allows you to record as long as you like. Perform full-size recording with no watermarks on your movie. Capture screenshots directly to JPG, PNG and TGA formats!
Updates to Fraps are completely FREE - Download the latest registered version from our Members Area at any time after your purchase.
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sarcasticly : LoL u learnt how to copy-paste stuff :P Congratz hihi x)
French, this isn't really helping the problem, we can go to the fraps site and see that, what we NEED is a list of programs that can record in-game.
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I found .gex (gamemaker GML extension files), that will allow me to record video from any window or application, now I just need to implant it into a game, and tell it to read specificly from game windows and not just desktop screen, I sure hope this works :P
Oh, and it does not support sound files, so it could record video, but not audio, I'll keep trying though.
I agree with RC (Too lazy to write the whole name x) )
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on January 29, 2013, 03:09:53 PM
French, this isn't really helping the problem, we can go to the fraps site and see that, what we NEED is a list of programs that can record in-game.
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I found .gex (gamemaker GML extension files), that will allow me to record video from any window or application, now I just need to implant it into a game, and tell it to read specificly from game windows and not just desktop screen, I sure hope this works :P
Oh, and it does not support sound files, so it could record video, but not audio, I'll keep trying though.
Another thing about that recorder, could it perhaps view elements on the battlefield in real time? Like as in you can pause the video and go around the map and see where other people were? I know I'm sort of drawing off of what Halo Reach and Halo 4 do, but it would be cool, if possible.
Perhaps a rewording there, I meant as in after you have recorded it, you can still go around the map and spectate, unless I already said that. :P
I've been loyal to Fraps for ~5 years. It's an absolutely great program. It records EVERYTHING perfectly. It'll also record your desktop fine if you're recording more than just games.
If you want to pause the gameplay and view around the map, you're out of luck. You could install the freecam mod for SWBF but that's about as much as you can do. Forget about spectating other players.. unless someone figured it out by now.
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on January 29, 2013, 03:09:53 PM
Oh, and it does not support sound files, so it could record video, but not audio, I'll keep trying though.
Nice :tu: Not having sound would not be a problem for me. The montage will have music to it. Plus I play with the sound off anyway :shrug:
Also, ONLY FRAPS record only the game (if u play it like me, Windowed, it doesnt record Desktop)
Sony Vagas is the best for editing imo. Just look at some of deagles or dumbledores vids to see the end result :P
Remember, the editing program is only as good as the person using it. Windows Movie Maker is relatively easy to use. The potential for great special effects isn't there, but there are a lot of tricks you can use to get similar effects.
U can't make them even similar
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on January 29, 2013, 05:27:18 PM
Another thing about that recorder, could it perhaps view elements on the battlefield in real time? Like as in you can pause the video and go around the map and see where other people were? I know I'm sort of drawing off of what Halo Reach and Halo 4 do, but it would be cool, if possible
yeah that shouldn't be too hard. I am having troule getting it to read its own ini file though... I might end up just making it read variables built into the program if I can't get ini to work.
Quote from: SirPimped on January 30, 2013, 11:58:56 AM
Remember, the editing program is only as good as the person using it. Windows Movie Maker is relatively easy to use. The potential for great special effects isn't there, but there are a lot of tricks you can use to get similar effects.
While using Windows Movie maker, after I edit clips and save them when I replay them they don't play right. The video stops but the window shows the video still playing. It just kind of stutters along. I think I have read this is a common problem.
Well, you all may not like me but i found another recording software. It does cost money but it is easy to use and you can pause it while in game. It's called Dxtory, there is also a free trial with it as well so you can test it out before you buy it (if you do) Ill give you a link to the website :
http://www.dxtory.com/v2-home-en.html
Quote from: {U.E.F}Anyder | BVBArmy on January 30, 2013, 06:32:11 AM
Also, ONLY FRAPS record only the game (if u play it like me, Windowed, it doesnt record Desktop)
That's not true. It does record desktop, providing you're running Windows Vista/7.
As far as I've tested, fraps is the only program that records gameplay frame-by-frame with uncompressed video quality with the smallest performance impact. I've had drastic decreases framerates with anything else.
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Sony Vegas Pro is a professional program, like Apple Final Cut Pro and (my favorite) Adobe Premiere Pro. They all do more or less the same thing, just done differently. They're also all expensive... but worth it!
If you're looking into making simple montages of clips, Windows Movie Maker is fine. It doesn't have the power of the expensive video editing programs but you don't need any of them for your purposes. If you're looking into adding more visual effects, you'll definitely need to resort to After Effects and Premiere Pro.
Fraps + Windows Movie Maker and you're good to go. :)
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Dxtory appears to work VERY similar to Fraps according to its web page. Maybe it's something I'll mess around with in the future. It's 3,600 Yen which is more or less 40 bucks.
Quote from: {212th} Norris on January 30, 2013, 01:19:06 PM
While using Windows Movie maker, after I edit clips and save them when I replay them they don't play right. The video stops but the window shows the video still playing. It just kind of stutters along. I think I have read this is a common problem.
Yes this is a common problem with WMM. I would play it only one clip at a time and then stop. Be sure to save your work often!
It is hard to do. I really dont have a clue how you cope SirPiimped :P But the result is good :)
Quote from: {212} Nixo on January 31, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
It is hard to do. I really dont have a clue how you cope SirPiimped :P But the result is good :)
Like anything, the more you practice the better you get. It's annoying at first, but it's easy to get used to.
Quote from: SirPimped on January 31, 2013, 01:35:43 PM
Like anything, the more you practice the better you get. It's annoying at first, but it's easy to get used to.
You mean like modding? Lol
Quote from: SirPimped on January 31, 2013, 01:35:43 PM
Like anything, the more you practice the better you get. It's annoying at first, but it's easy to get used to.
It's exactly like HTML and CSS coding! :P
Watch that video, even though it's not meant for game editing it does explain how you should start moviemaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qmHiTchJA
and for recording I would go for fraps like all the others said :)
Quote from: DEAGLE on January 31, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
Watch that video, even though it's not meant for game editing it does explain how you should start moviemaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qmHiTchJA
and for recording I would go for fraps like all the others said :)
Haha, he is slightly repetative but I guess it gets his point across :P And good clip to help
Quote from: DEAGLE on January 31, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
Watch that video, even though it's not meant for game editing it does explain how you should start moviemaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qmHiTchJA
and for recording I would go for fraps like all the others said :)
He brings up some great points in that video. It makes me feel better about using Windows Movie Maker :)
Wow that's a good video! Freddie Wong's stuff has always been fun to watch.
It's true. Windows Movie Maker is a perfectly acceptable starting program. It has what you need to export videos in HD.
If you ever take video editing seriously, I'd highly recommend investing in Premiere Pro (and After Effects!). They integrate with each other really well.
But I think I've said that too many times.. :P
Finally some more fans of Freddie Wong!!! :D
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on January 31, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Finally some more fans of Freddie Wong!!! :D
Off topic but have you seen the Video Game Highschool series he made?
Quote from: DEAGLE on January 31, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
Watch that video, even though it's not meant for game editing it does explain how you should start moviemaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qmHiTchJA
and for recording I would go for fraps like all the others said :)
Thanks for the video, it is helpful :D
Quote from: {212th} Norris on January 31, 2013, 10:40:19 PM
Off topic but have you seen the Video Game Highschool series he made?
YES! AWESOME SERIES! Can't wait for Season 2! :D
The only bad thing that I have found out about Dxtory is it has a MASSIVE water mark on it like takes up 1/3 of the screen and that it does cost money. But, if you do buy it with it not being very expensive and since the water mark is taken off when you buy it it makes it one of the best filming programs I have found plus there is no time limit if you are in the trial or have bought it :) I would recommend this to you Norris just as much if not more than fraps :)
Quote from: {212}FrenchFryZ on February 01, 2013, 11:45:18 AM
The only bad thing that I have found out about Dxtory is it has a MASSIVE water mark on it like takes up 1/3 of the screen and that it does cost money. But, if you do buy it with it not being very expensive and since the water mark is taken off when you buy it it makes it one of the best filming programs I have found plus there is no time limit if you are in the trial or have bought it :) I would recommend this to you Norris just as much if not more than fraps :)
Thanks French :D I will be looking into it :tu:
Hey Guys, here is Dumbledore (on youtube Lukiopfer).
I'm using for recording fraps and for the editing sony vegas pro 10, for the 3d animation cinema 4d and for the tracking boujou.
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