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Title: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 21, 2015, 03:04:13 PM
Hey guys, figured I'd put up this thread for the new SWBF. Obviously, there are many of us who either have a rig that will be able to run the new game, but there are also quite a few of us who probably don't have a rig that could run the new SWBF on par, so to speak.

So, I more accurately put this up as a question, does anyone know of any good, cheap PC builds that could potentially run the new SWBF? I've been relying off of Battlefield 4's PC specs (even though I probably should've been relying on Battlefield Hardline's specs really), and found a PC for $700 that runs BF4 on High settings, with Hardline on Medium-High settings.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=077425

(For reference, I've been using GameDebate for comparing system requirements between other PCs)

Also, feel free to post other recommendations here for PC builds that could run the new SWBF. :D
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: WusiBabyEater on June 21, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
I guess that's a a decent PC for that price range, an i3 seems kinda low, maybe find an i5. Take your time in choosing a PC, took me about a couple weeks to choose mine. In my opinion battlefield 4 is better graphically than hardline even though hardline requirements are higher but I think battlefront 3 will have the same requirements as hardline.


http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-Z97-Core-i5-Configurator (http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-Z97-Core-i5-Configurator)

I found a PC for $809...well I just realized that it does not come with windows 7 or 8 and its and extra $135 to add it with it on their site but I'm sure you can get windows 7 somewhere else between $50-$90. The PC has a GTX 960 which is way better than a AMD 260 and can run battlefield 4 in ultra and close to ultra in Hardline. Ibuypower is a good site to buy PCs. They probably will have a 4th of July sale in a couple weeks while today they're having a fathers day sale at the moment.


also cyberpower is another good site except it's a bit pricier
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ (https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/)
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 02:47:29 AM
So the specs are out...

Quote from: WusiBabyEater on June 27, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
I got selected to play in the Star wars Battlefront 3 closed Alpha. Anyone else get an invitation? EA is only selecting a certain amount of people so I guess I got lucky. The Alpha starts on July 2nd and here are the PC requirements.

•   CPU: Quad Core CPU e.g. Intel Core i5-2300 @ 2.8 GHz or AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.2 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz
•   RAM: 6 GB
•   OS: Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8/8.1 (64-bit operating system required)
•   Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 or AMD Radeon HD 7970 with 2 GB of Video Memory

I'm considering getting a PC, because I resent subscription fees that come along with the consoles. Unfortunately I don't know anoything about PCs, since I have only ever owned Macs.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Syyy on June 28, 2015, 04:12:21 AM
Same goes for me, I'm thinking about building a PC, because my current laptop will certainly not be able to run SWBF.
There's this community on reddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc ) that might be helpful.
I still can't wrap my mind around the differences between an i5 and i7 processor.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 28, 2015, 04:38:58 AM
Quote from: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 02:47:29 AM

  • CPU: Quad Core CPU e.g. Intel Core i5-2300 @ 2.8 GHz or AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.2 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz
  • RAM: 6 GB
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8/8.1 (64-bit operating system required)
  • Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 or AMD Radeon HD 7970 with 2 GB of Video Memory
That NVIDIA card doesn't come cheap, I'll say that much.

Actually just by trying to build based off those requirements, that builds going to reach above $500, even if I were to use that Intel with an AMD.

Just trying to cut costs here, do you think an R5 or R7 series GPU would compare with that? Preferably something in that area, that is still somewhat cheaper? (I can't even find that GPU on the Canadian stores.)
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on June 28, 2015, 05:49:31 AM
There's not much difference between I5 and I7. I7 is slightly better but at a cost where as I5 is better value (in general) and fine for gaming, if they have a k after the name they can be overclocked to a higher speed.

The 680 is an older card, the new version is a 960/70. This is a good guide to compare cards: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32899-7.html

[spoiler]GeForceRadeonIntelDiscrete: GTX Titan Z
Discrete: R9 295X2

Discrete: GTX 690, Titan X
Discrete: HD 7990
Discrete: GTX 780 Ti, 980, Titan Black


Discrete: GTX 780, 970, TitanDiscrete: R9 290, 290X
Discrete: GTX 590, 680, 770
Go (mobile): 980M
Discrete:  HD 6990, 7970 GHz Ed, R9 280X
Discrete: GTX 580, GTX 670, GTX 960
Go (mobile): 970M
Discrete: HD 5970, 7870 LE (XT), 7950, 280, 285
Discrete: GTX 660 Ti, GTX 760
Go (mobile): 880M
Discrete: HD 7870, R9 270, 270X

Discrete: GTX 295, 480, 570, 660
Go (mobile): 680M, 780M
Discrete: HD 4870 X2, 6970, 7850, R7 265,
Mobility: 7970M

Discrete: GTX 470, 560 Ti, 560 Ti 448 Core, 650 Ti Boost, 750 Ti Discrete: HD 4850 X2, 5870, 6950, R7 260X
Mobility: 7950M

Discrete: GTX 560, 650 Ti, 750
Go (mobile): 580M, 675M Discrete: HD 5850, 6870, 7790
Mobility: 6990M

Discrete: 9800 GX2, 285, 460 256-bit, 465
Discrete: HD 6850, 7770, R7 260
Mobility: 6900M

Discrete: GTX 260, 275, 280, 460 192-bit, 460 SE, 550 Ti, 560 SE, GT 650, GT 740 GDDR5
Go (mobile): 570M, 670M
Discrete: HD 4870, 5770, 4890, 5830, 6770, 6790, 7750 (GDDR5), R7 250 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 5870, 6800M

Discrete: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250, GTS 450
Go (mobile): 560M, 660M
Discrete: HD 3870 X2, 4850, 5750, 6750, 7750 (DDR3), R7 250 (DDR3)
Mobility: HD 4850, 5850, 7870M

Discrete: 8800 GTX, 8800 GTS 512 MB, GT 545 (GDDR5), GT 730 64-bit GDDR5
Go (mobile): GTX 280M, 285M, 555M (GDDR5)
Discrete: HD 4770
Mobility: HD 4860, 7770M, 7850M

Discrete: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT, GT 545 (DDR3), GT 640 (DDR3), GT 740 DDR3
Go (mobile): 9800M GTX, GTX 260M (112), GTS 360M (GDDR5), 555M (DDR3)
Discrete: HD 4830, HD 5670, HD 6670 (GDDR5), HD 7730 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 5770, HD 5750, 6600M/6700M (GDDR5), 7750M

Discrete: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, GT 240 (GDDR5)
Go (mobile): 9800M GTS, GTX 160M
Discrete: HD 2900 XT, HD 3870, HD 5570 (GDDR5), HD 6570 (GDDR5)
Mobility: 6500M (GDDR5), 6600M/6700M (DDR3), 7730M

Discrete: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, GT 240 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): GTX 260M (96), GTS 150M, GTS 360M (DDR3)
Discrete: HD 3850 512 MB, HD 4670, HD 5570 (DDR3), HD 6570 (DDR3), HD 6670 (DDR3), HD 7730 (DDR3), R7 240
Mobility: HD 3870, HD 5730, HD 5650, 6500M (DDR3) - See more at: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32899-7.html#sthash.D3sEaTo7.dpuf[/spoiler]

Bare in mind when buying that you can get away with a 2gb card but you'll need at least a 980 to run new games on Ultra settings, I have one and with the Witcher 3 on ultra it occasionally dips below 60fps, although that's with a feature called hairworks which animates every individual hair and comes at a huge performance cost.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Led on June 28, 2015, 08:48:52 AM
Hmm, I have a Radeon 7950 with 3 GB...seems fine, but it a tier below the 7970...maybe it's time for an upgrade  ;)


edit:  ouch, those top tier cards are expensive  :whip:

anyway, I am a big fan of manufacturer refurbished computers, such as this one for $835
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-PHOENIX-810-810qe-i7-4790-3-6Ghz-16GB-2TB-4GB-GTX745-Blu-ray-Desktop-W7-Pro-/221809387464?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4dea7c8

Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 28, 2015, 11:43:54 AM
Anything budgeting in say, oh, I don't know, $500CDN range?  :confused:
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
What happens if I prefer laptops?
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on June 28, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Quote from: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
What happens if I prefer laptops?
You have to pay more money for less performance.  :(
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 28, 2015, 02:35:46 PM
Good luck to you, you'll be fetching an $8-$900+ laptop if you want to attempt running that, if lucky. Probably $1k would be able for it.

Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: WusiBabyEater on June 28, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
What happens if I prefer laptops?

Do not get a gaming lap top, they're way over priced and you could be get a better PC for cheaper and what is your budget?
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 28, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
Guess who works in Microcenter!

The go-to setup is i5 + GTX 970 + 8GB ram + ssd + hdd. It's a very strong value for a gaming PC. The GTX 970 is phenomenal in performance for the 350USD range. It's only ~10% less powerful as a GTX 980 but at ~60% of the cost.  If that's above your price range, drop it down to a GTX 770 or an AMD 280X/380X. Worst case scenario drop it down to a GTX 960. Anything lower than that is honestly not worth the money saved from the performance lost at this time. Games are becoming more demanding. The GTX 770 is a rebrand of the GTX 680 so a GPU below that grade is below their recommended specifications.

I'm not a fan of gaming laptops and it's mostly because of their weight and size defeating the purpose of it being portable. Other reasons are battery life, screen sizes limited to 17 inches, and the price to performance ratio is very poor compared to a desktop PC. If you see yourself having no time to play video games at home and can only resort to playing on the go, having a gaming laptop isn't the worst idea. However that's only the scenario where I see myself wanting to buy one. Otherwise you're better off building a desktop.

The AMD FX 8320 would be an alternative CPU but honestly it's worth the extra money by going Intel. The per-core-performance of AMD is weak and it only competes well enough in multithreaded games and applications.

I'm also not a fan of AMD GPUs anymore. The power consumption, noise levels, and poor drivers have driven me mad. I'm not going back to that.


Anyway that's my input. Here's an ideal build:
PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r7wMYJ) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r7wMYJ/by_merchant/)

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k)  ($217.72 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2)  ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97hd3)  ($96.99 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl10d16gbxl)  ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam)  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex)  ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-strixgtx970dc2oc4gd5)  ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cas340wb1)  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr)  ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1054.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 19:12 EDT-0400

Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on June 28, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
You have to pay more money for less performance.  :(
Quote from: Gold Man on June 28, 2015, 02:35:46 PM
Good luck to you, you'll be fetching an $8-$900+ laptop if you want to attempt running that, if lucky. Probably $1k would be able for it.
Quote from: WusiBabyEater on June 28, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
Do not get a gaming lap top, they're way over priced and you could be get a better PC for cheaper and what is your budget?

Okay, thanks guys. I think I've made it obvious that I don't actually know anything about PC hardware.

Yeah, so my budget would be lower than the $1000 mark (£600) because I'm a poor art student.


I do already have a high end i7 Mac Book Pro, so I might experiment around with bootcamp or parallels.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
I've been trying to avoid this thread because it reminds me that I won't be able to play the new Battlefront without upgrading.  I've looked at the predicted specs for it, and there's no way my $200 laptop will be able to handle it.

Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as 33 here; I can't afford a $1,000 PC. 

What are my options?  Would it be possible to upgrade my current laptop enough to run Battlefront on low(ish) settings?
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on June 28, 2015, 04:47:26 PM
Isn't it like impossible to upgrade a laptop?




I love my Strix GTX 970 and I highly recommend it. I also highly recommend a FX 8350, I use it for gaming and have zero complants.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsZGLoXo4WI  If you go with a FX 8350 you can use the extra money that would have gone to the i5 4690k to get a better CPU cooler so you can overclock to make it as good as some i7's. Or just overclock a FX 8320; an 8320 is just a slowed down 8350.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 28, 2015, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
I've been trying to avoid this thread because it reminds me that I won't be able to play the new Battlefront without upgrading.  I've looked at the predicted specs for it, and there's no way my $200 laptop will be able to handle it.

Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as 33 here; I can't afford a $1,000 PC. 

What are my options?  Would it be possible to upgrade my current laptop enough to run Battlefront on low(ish) settings?
Options:

A $500 rig should get you low settings at the minimum (would be best to hunt for some sources on this, such as PC PartPicker, several subreddits, etc.) $600-$700 might get you to medium or high settings, pending on the parts.

On the other hand, if you still want the portability of a laptop, and are handy with tools, you can build yourself a briefcase computer with desktop parts in the case. :P[/list]
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4PG3GX) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4PG3GX/by_merchant/)

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6350frhkbox)  ($87.84 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-760gmap34fx)  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tpd38g1600c1101)  ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003)  ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100373l)  ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl)  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr)  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $472.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-30 00:17 EDT-0400


Here's a budget oriented part list. Dropped the processor and video card to AMD. It's hard to recommend something any lower than this for the new SWBF. I've tried my best to drop it to sub 500. Do consider AMD's 8 core processor if you're willing to go above 500. It's a better choice over the 6

I'm rather surprised how affordable this R8 280 is. It's a better choice over getting an nvidia 750 Ti for that price.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
I've been trying to avoid this thread because it reminds me that I won't be able to play the new Battlefront without upgrading.  I've looked at the predicted specs for it, and there's no way my $200 laptop will be able to handle it.

Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as 33 here; I can't afford a $1,000 PC. 

What are my options?  Would it be possible to upgrade my current laptop enough to run Battlefront on low(ish) settings?

There are no options for a 200 dollar laptop. If you need a 400 dollar console to play the game, a 200 dollar laptop won't help you.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Unit 33 on June 28, 2015, 04:21:42 PM

I do already have a high end i7 Mac Book Pro, so I might experiment around with bootcamp or parallels.


Do go through the bootcamp route. Parallels isn't going to help you with a current-gen title.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:28:09 PM
Quote from: Led on June 28, 2015, 08:48:52 AM
Hmm, I have a Radeon 7950 with 3 GB...seems fine, but it a tier below the 7970...maybe it's time for an upgrade  ;)


edit:  ouch, those top tier cards are expensive  :whip:

anyway, I am a big fan of manufacturer refurbished computers, such as this one for $835
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-PHOENIX-810-810qe-i7-4790-3-6Ghz-16GB-2TB-4GB-GTX745-Blu-ray-Desktop-W7-Pro-/221809387464?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4dea7c8


  • 4th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 quad-core processor [3.6GHz, 8MB Shared Cache] w/turbo boost up to 4.0Ghz
    16 GB DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs] - 32GB Max
    2TB 7200 rpm SATA (6.0 Gb/sec) - hard drive
    4GB dedicated Nvidia GeForce GTX 745 [DVI, DP, HDMI, DVI to VGA dongle; DX11]
    Blu-ray player w/16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
    Integrated Bluetooth 4.0 and Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n featuring
    4 SS USB 3.0 (SuperSpeed)
    SuperSpeed — New higher signaling rate of 5Gbps (625MB/sec), 10 times faster than regular USB 2.0
    Beats Audio (tm) -- Built-in High Definition 8 channel audio
    Liquid Cooling Solution
    500W Power Supply
    Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)


For the price... this is actually not bad. The video card is modest but there's a 2TB drive and an i7. Replace the video card and add a solid state drive it would make a great production + gaming machine.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on June 30, 2015, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4PG3GX) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4PG3GX/by_merchant/)

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6350frhkbox)  ($87.84 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-760gmap34fx)  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tpd38g1600c1101)  ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003)  ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100373l)  ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000usb3bl)  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr)  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $472.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-30 00:17 EDT-0400


Here's a budget oriented part list. Dropped the processor and video card to AMD. It's hard to recommend something any lower than this for the new SWBF. I've tried my best to drop it to sub 500. Do consider AMD's 8 core processor if you're willing to go above 500. It's a better choice over the 6

I'm rather surprised how affordable this R8 280 is. It's a better choice over getting an nvidia 750 Ti for that price.
Wondering if that list is set for CDN or USD. Either way, I myself decided to pop the question to some guys on PCPartPicker, and I was content with the responses I got. ;)

One guy did pop the idea though of taking the Windows 10 ISO file right now, and then when the rig is built just pop a flash drive in, go through the BIOS, and activate the ISO, which would potentially give me Windows 10 free for the system. Still a bit curious on that option. There was also a guy recommending a different build that featured the OS (finally, a build that includes the OS!)

I'll post their lists later on here if anyone is curious. :)
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on June 30, 2015, 11:03:44 PM
PCPartPicker part list (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/nMbXzy) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/nMbXzy/by_merchant/)

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox)  ($122.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga78lmtusb3)  ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx16c10b1r8)  ($39.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd5000aakx)  ($50.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp43751kr)  ($174.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/bitfenix-case-bfcneo100kkxskrp)  ($39.10 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430)  ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $550.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-01 01:58 EDT-0400

Here's a build for you, Gold Man. I'm curious of their builds, too.

If you compromise any more on the CPU or video card it'll only be a disservice for modest savings.

I do recommend getting windows through other means if you're on a budget.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Unit 33 on July 01, 2015, 01:55:02 AM
Quote from: aeria. on June 29, 2015, 09:24:01 PM

Do go through the bootcamp route. Parallels isn't going to help you with a current-gen title.
Okay, I'll try it out with some other modern titles before I commit to buying a second computer.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 01, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: aeria. on June 30, 2015, 11:03:44 PM
PCPartPicker part list (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/nMbXzy) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/nMbXzy/by_merchant/)

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6300wmhkbox)  ($122.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga78lmtusb3)  ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx16c10b1r8)  ($39.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd5000aakx)  ($50.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp43751kr)  ($174.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/bitfenix-case-bfcneo100kkxskrp)  ($39.10 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430)  ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $550.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-01 01:58 EDT-0400

Here's a build for you, Gold Man. I'm curious of their builds, too.

If you compromise any more on the CPU or video card it'll only be a disservice for modest savings.

I do recommend getting windows through other means if you're on a budget.
Here's the three builds that were offered to me:

RubyJunk's PCPartPicker List:
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CPU: AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor   $115.98 @ Newegg Canada

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard   $77.00 @ Vuugo

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory   $54.88 @ Canada Computers

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive   $56.95 @ Vuugo

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card   $238.75 @ Vuugo

Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case   $42.59 @ DirectCanada

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply   $39.98 @ Newegg Canada

Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts   

Total (before mail-in rebates): $656.13

Mail-in rebates: -$30.00

Total: $626.13
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TheGhostMan's PCPartPicker List:
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CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor   $85.07 @ Newegg Canada

Motherboard: MSI A68HM-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard   $67.52 @ DirectCanada

Memory: Kingston 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory   $28.23 @ Memory Express

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive   $64.35 @ Vuugo

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card   $162.72 @ Newegg Canada

Power Supply:Antec 450W ATX Power Supply   $49.64 @ shopRBC

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)   $118.63 @ Canada Computers

Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts   

Total: $576.16
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TheGhostMan's Budget Gaming PC for Canadians for less than $600:
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CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor   $96.03 @ Newegg Canada

Motherboard: MSI A68HM-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard   $67.50 @ DirectCanada

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory   $70.81 @ DirectCanada

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive   $65.12 @ Newegg Canada

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card   $162.72 @ Newegg Canada

Case: Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower Case   $54.52 @ Newegg Canada

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply   $51.77 @ DirectCanada

Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts   

Total:$568.47
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Seems the budget one is the cheapest, but I would like your opinion on these builds. For two of them I might have to install Windows 10 via a flash drive.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on July 01, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
The CPUs in these builds are really poor. The 260X is also a really weak GPU. I'd rather go for the 750 Ti.

Maybe in 2012 the Athlon was a decent budget CPU but right now the CPU requirements are really high. This especially counts for the Battlefield games which the new SWBF is based off of.

But those builds are indeed in your price range.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 02, 2015, 06:37:19 AM
Quote from: aeria. on July 01, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
The CPUs in these builds are really poor. The 260X is also a really weak GPU. I'd rather go for the 750 Ti.

Maybe in 2012 the Athlon was a decent budget CPU but right now the CPU requirements are really high. This especially counts for the Battlefield games which the new SWBF is based off of.

But those builds are indeed in your price range.
Now I'm kind of debating between RubyJunk's build and your build, since they both have good bits to them. :P
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on July 02, 2015, 08:08:53 PM
I'd go for aerias setup, but maybe go with a gtx 960  http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-960-vs-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti and maybe get a 1 tb hdd if you think you'll need the extra space.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {TCE}Call-of-Duty on July 02, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
I would personally recommend the latest Alienware computer and the newest addition to my collection of otherwise broken computers, the Alpha Console. They come in four different models ranging from $500-$850, the best comes with a 2TB drive and a i7 (The model I have). Each model has a custom-built Maxwell GTX GPU (I read it's equal to the power of a 860M.) The bottom model isn't worth the $500 (It's a lower-end i3, 500Gb Hard Drive, and 4Gb of Ram.) Although the better models are more worth the price. It comes with the Alienware Hivemind OS (RaspMC with Alienware addons) on top of 8.1. It also ships with a 360 controller, which I find very handy with playing a slightly-illegal F2P game meant only to be played in Russia that rhymes with Dalo: Gnline. Overall it's a great little computer that can load 250 gigs of games two days out of box.

Link: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-alpha/pd?ref=PD_OC

P.S. They are cheaper on Amazon and still come with everything you can get directly from Alienware.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 04, 2015, 08:10:53 AM
Quote from: {TCE}Call-of-Duty on July 02, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
I would personally recommend the latest Alienware computer and the newest addition to my collection of otherwise broken computers, the Alpha Console. They come in four different models ranging from $500-$850, the best comes with a 2TB drive and a i7 (The model I have). Each model has a custom-built Maxwell GTX GPU (I read it's equal to the power of a 860M.) The bottom model isn't worth the $500 (It's a lower-end i3, 500Gb Hard Drive, and 4Gb of Ram.) Although the better models are more worth the price. It comes with the Alienware Hivemind OS (RaspMC with Alienware addons) on top of 8.1. It also ships with a 360 controller, which I find very handy with playing a slightly-illegal F2P game meant only to be played in Russia that rhymes with Dalo: Gnline. Overall it's a great little computer that can load 250 gigs of games two days out of box.

Link: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-alpha/pd?ref=PD_OC

P.S. They are cheaper on Amazon and still come with everything you can get directly from Alienware.
Much as I'd love to go that route, the currency exchange would kill me. $850USD is equivalent to $1068CAN, so I'd heavily be better off with going with Aeria's build.

On the upside, I've got over $200 on me at the momen, so I may as well wind up buying some of the parts right now, and then get more as I have the money. :P

Also found out the USB install to Windows 10 would bite me in the butt. It'd be a free OS, but to upgrade to the public Home version it would charge me $150 (since the PC wouldn't have an underlying OS which is a requirement to get the free upgrade). In any case, it almost seems better than paying $110 in advance, and then a free upgrade. I guess paying as it comes would be better for me, considering my cash flow is more sporadic than constant. :P
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Helios on July 04, 2015, 08:29:40 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned but you NEED 2GB of video memory MINIMUM to run the SWBF Reboot.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 04, 2015, 08:39:39 AM
Quote from: Helios on July 04, 2015, 08:29:40 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned but you NEED 2GB of video memory MINIMUM to run the SWBF Reboot.
That's impressive. Here I was thinking the minimal requirement was 4-8GB. :P
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on July 04, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
Unfortunately he means graphics card memory memory. You will also need 8gb ram.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Led on July 04, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
Quote from: Helios on July 04, 2015, 08:29:40 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned but you NEED 2GB of video memory MINIMUM to run the SWBF Reboot.

Well, I don't think the final requirements have been released. 

The alhpa play has stated requirements, but nothing has been released for the final product yet, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 04, 2015, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on July 04, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
Unfortunately he means graphics card memory memory. You will also need 8gb ram.
Good thing I'm going with aeria's build then. :)

I've already mapped it out, I'm planning to go ahead and buy the motherboard, CPU, and memory first, and use the case, 250GB hard drive, and existing PSU from my old rig as a temporary fix (just to get the thing up and running). I'll probably face facts and wind up buying Windows 10 when it comes to it. Later when I get more money, I'll buy the case, PSU, other 500GB HDD, and the video card (I'll see how far I can make it on the Cooler Master, since it only saw 2 years of service before our PC went kaput those years ago, odds are it's still got some life left in it).
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Helios on July 04, 2015, 09:43:53 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on July 04, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
Unfortunately he means graphics card memory memory. You will also need 8gb ram.
It's dedicated video memory i was speaking about, u need 6 GB of RAM for pre-alpha.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Anyder on July 04, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
Why dont u just wait for Origin to post what the real game requirements are ? lol
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on July 04, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Anyder on July 04, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
Why dont u just wait for Origin to post what the real game requirements are ? lol

Yeah, he should do that and save some more money; unless he needs a computer now.

I think it would definitely be worth getting a gtx 960.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: WusiBabyEater on July 04, 2015, 07:18:34 PM
The official requirements are going to still be high no matter. I'm not sure if they're going to downgrade but the graphics and effects in the alpha are amazing, probably the best graphics in a shooter to this date.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 04, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Quote from: {PLA} Van STING on July 04, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
Yeah, he should do that and save some more money; unless he needs a computer now.

I think it would definitely be worth getting a gtx 960.

I know it'd be better to perhaps wait for the requirements, but I have no doubts they're still going to be high regardless. Besides, I'm not hard pressed for a PC at the moment, but I would nonetheless like to ensure that I have a rig capable of playing it (considering I plan to pre-order SWBF and Need For Speed eventually).
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on July 07, 2015, 10:48:37 AM
Call of Duty's alienware recommendation is not bad if space is an issue where you are keeping the PC. But an m-ITX build is likely a better route.

The GTX 960 recommendation is good. Definitely start saving until the game nears lauunch.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on July 07, 2015, 04:55:17 PM
Well, I went to Canada Computers today (thinking perhaps ordering locally would be cheaper). Turns out it isn't. The parts there are $5-$10 more than the online retailing from that PartPicker list. Looks like I better turn towards getting a debt card/PayPal. :P
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on July 07, 2015, 07:03:32 PM
When I was shopping for my parts I went to a computer shop in the closest of the two semi large cities in my state, and their prices were ridiculous; a GTX 970 was $599.

Definitley buy online. You could have someone you know with a card order it for you, and give them the money.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: aeria. on July 12, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
Microcenter has some great deals on open box items. I just got a GTX 980 for $397. It's going to be in my vim machine until I get a 980 Ti... and it'll still be my vim machine. Maybe one day I'll play demanding games with it.
Title: Re: Ideal PC Builds for The New SWBF?
Post by: Gold Man on December 11, 2015, 07:37:25 AM
Hate to revive this post, but I need your help again.

So, I got employed at a grocery store for a month, and now I have some money. Issue is, I only can afford around $700 CDN (gotta try and save some money for myself now that I'm unemployed).

So, I'm wondering here, now that I actually have a budget with me finally, any $700 builds to recommend for running EASWBF on low settings? (Pre-builds in the $700 range are accepted as well!) I have no doubts there's been some new parts out since the last post, so I wonder if any other parts have dropped in price. :)
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