SWBFGamers

 So what next generation gaming system will you buy and why? Post what you voted and why.

I would buy a PS4 because I want to play SWBF"3", and because my friend is going to buy one.

Xbox one because ps4 wont support standard def, and the xbox one might. Also, halo.
However, I think im going to use the PC this generation. Its always the better console

I prefer PS4, because I've always been a Sony-Girl.

PS4 because the xbox developers are idiots.

PS4

What next-gen system will I buy? The only system that has an everlasting generation:

[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F508%2F616%2F01f.jpg&hash=f11ed476a5e840c75398f09a64b85baef6792468)[/spoiler]

MacBook Pro that can run Windows through Bootcamp. :)

I'm afraid I won't be getting one.
My PC needs upgrading before I consider a console.

Wii U.

Then a PS4 once I have the money.

Xbox One? Sure once the 10th gen is out and I can get it for $60.

Sony let me down by banning me for nothing on MW3 but ill go for PS4 but i might just have it for SWBF3 and non less might just be PC for everything else

I'm not getting one. My ps3 and 360 are fine. I prefer PC gaming anyways.

PS4 no doubt

Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on July 28, 2013, 01:55:02 PM
The only system that has an everlasting generation.

(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmHM3DMk.gif&hash=5d1e9f72ceb0a5c1a32b31268e835c574e19a1be)

Enjoying Windows 1?

There can only be one true next gen console.
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.otenko.com%2Fgallery3%2Fvar%2Falbums%2Fdreamcast%2FDreamcast.jpg%3Fm%3D1272975978&hash=d40f37b99b400bd4be1d3dc6c7558a6512c4d032)

I'll get a PS4, I've had a PS2 and a PS3 and Microsoft ruined any chance of me changing now. :)

Quote from: Ltin on July 28, 2013, 12:20:03 PM
Xbox one because ps4 wont support standard def, and the xbox one might. Also, halo.
However, I think im going to use the PC this generation. Its always the better console

I think not my friend, the best generation is PC, but only the best RICH Generation have a PC.
Now a good pc costs around 1500 €

Quote from: FieroBull on September 18, 2013, 09:19:29 AM
I think not my friend, the best generation is PC, but only the best RICH Generation have a PC.
Now a good pc costs around 1500 €

My pc is in no way good. Be it can be upgraded to be better. And it has mods!

I only care about three console games: Kingdom Hearts 3, Final    Fantasy X Hd, and Halo 5. I would rather get a PS4, but in the end, I doubt I'll get one. If I do, it'll be in like five years or something unless there's another free console deal, which is how I got my current xbox.

Also

THE NEW BATTLEFRONT IS RESERVED FOR MY PC. I'm 100% certain that Battlefront will be on PC

I like my laptop, plus my dad has a PC with 3.5 GHz. I prefer to spend my money on something useful, like a synthesizer.

Quote from: Roxas on September 22, 2013, 09:10:22 AM
I only care about three console games: Kingdom Hearts 3, Final    Fantasy X Hd, and Halo 5. I would rather get a PS4, but in the end, I doubt I'll get one. If I do, it'll be in like five years or something unless there's another free console deal, which is how I got my current xbox.

Also

THE NEW BATTLEFRONT IS RESERVED FOR MY PC. I'm 100% certain that Battlefront will be on PC

I was debating about posting a topic about this recently.

You can play some Xbox 360 games on PC. Don't ask me how but I think you can. So maybe buy the xbox one version and play it on PC?

Quote from: Carbon27 on September 22, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
I was debating about posting a topic about this recently.

You can play some Xbox 360 games on PC. Don't ask me how but I think you can. So maybe buy the xbox one version and play it on PC?

that would require an emulator. either that, or you're thinking of the steam console controller gamepad on a pc game thingy.

I would buy a PC if I had a large budget (which I don't), so I might go for the PS4. The Xbox One has pulled itself together somewhat, but they've changed so much and lied about so much I just don't trust the dang thing anymore.
(For example, "The Xbox One is built from the ground up to be always online. We can't just flip a switch and change that." *starts losing money* *flips switch* )

Quote from: RC-1498 on September 23, 2013, 09:57:58 AM(For example, "The Xbox One is built from the ground up to be always online. We can't just flip a switch and change that." *starts losing money* *flips switch* )

The reason they couldnt flip a s witch at first is that they needex to install one, and they didnt think it worth it untill they started losing money.

Quote from: Ltin on September 23, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
The reason they couldnt flip a s witch at first is that they needex to install one, and they didnt think it worth it untill they started losing money.

Still, at this point I just don't trust Microsoft to be honest about how they're managing it, and the PS4 seems much more focused on games than the all-purpose Xbox One.

Ehh. Pc is still better.

Quote from: Ltin on September 23, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
Ehh. Pc is still better.

Quality post.

Just kidding.

[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F397%2F625%2Fbe7.jpg&hash=de7d71b23ad62c39cde3f5c59f56d155fde3823c)[/spoiler]

PS4? no.
Xboxone? no.

Steambox.

I can't afford any of it, but Steambox sounds like it will need me to throw money at it.

Quote from: tirpider on September 23, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
PS4? no.
Xboxone? no.

Steambox.

I can't afford any of it, but Steambox sounds like it will need me to throw money at it.

I've briefly seen it before, and just now looked it up. Is it some PC-based console? Or is it it's own system?

Edited poll. Now it includes PC. Check PC if you are thinking of getting a new PC instead of a console.

EDIT: Now it won't let me change my option. :( Could a mod fix the poll to let you change your selection? Maybe I'm just blind? :wacko:

Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on September 23, 2013, 04:58:27 PM
I've briefly seen it before, and just now looked it up. Is it some PC-based console? Or is it it's own system?

Its a Linux based console with a few proposed methods of operating.
But it has(will have) a method for playing the Windows based titles already available on Steam, so I am going to guess it will be similar to the original Xbox (a PC crammed into a console), but with user modifiable OS and hardware.

I see no way for it to suck (any more than Steam does). And I'm pessimistic about everything.

So it is it's own console, sorta.

An argument against it would be to just stay with a PC.
An argument against that is wiring the PC to the living room TV every time you want to play a game.
Also.. Linux based OS = Emulators = Better console backward compatibility than consoles.

You forgot the best part Tirpider. The OS is optimized for gaming unlike Windows, OS X or the countless other Linux distros. Which means better performance with less powerful hardware, combine that with the fact the hardware is upgradeable you have a potential Xbox/Playstation killer.

The thing Valve needs to get right is the way it gets upgraded. They need to make upgrading it simple and easy. If it is too complex to do, people will get put off. They need to find a way to make it as simple as possible.

Games wise however it sounds like they'll be giving the PS4 and Xbox One a run for their money. From a Valve statement. "Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks about all the AAA titles coming natively to SteamOS in 2014." (Source.) (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/23/after-glados-valve-releasing-steamos/) Hundreds? AAA titles running natively? And because it is Valve any game we already have on Steam that gets ported over we won't have to re-buy.

I'm getting pretty excited about it. This could completely change the console market if Valve do it right.

Quote from: SleepKiller on September 23, 2013, 05:42:41 PM
You forgot the best part Tirpider. The OS is optimized for gaming unlike Windows, OS X or the countless other Linux distros. Which means better performance with less powerful hardware, combine that with the fact the hardware is upgradeable you have a potential Xbox/Playstation killer.

The thing Valve needs to get right is the way it gets upgraded. They need to make upgrading it simple and easy. If it is too complex to do, people will get put off. They need to find a way to make it as simple as possible.

Games wise however it sounds like they'll be giving the PS4 and Xbox One a run for their money. From a Valve statement. "Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks about all the AAA titles coming natively to SteamOS in 2014." (Source.) (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/23/after-glados-valve-releasing-steamos/) Hundreds? AAA titles running natively? And because it is Valve any game we already have on Steam that gets ported over we won't have to re-buy.

I'm getting pretty excited about it. This could completely change the console market if Valve do it right.

It does sound quite amazing, but what about those that have (or prefer) hard copies of games still? Will they allow people to plug in an optical drive and play them? Or will it be entirely Steam driven with no exceptions to hard copy games?

Considering I've never seen a hard copy Linux game in my life, you may be disappointed in that regard. With a bit of know how with Wine you probably could run ye olde' disk based games for it.

If it is successful however I fully expect retailers to start carrying Steam Box games that would work the same way Steam/Origin games work now when brought at retail. Activate code and save time downloading by installing off the disk.

I am loving the contradictions.

When I heard Microsoft talking about "the cloud" it was an instant turn off. I hated everything about it.

But I am completely fine with Steam and giving them money for software I will never physically touch.


I think it's because Steam doesn't have a face. I've never seen or care to see any of their CEO's/office personel/janitors/ect. They are an online store. Buy stuff. Get out. It's simple.

But MS put's their guys out in the public view like cheerleaders and everyone throws rotten food at them.  They try to engage folks enthusiasm and it always backfires.

If Steam sold a game that gave everyone in the world flowers, it would sell instantly.
If MS even announced their intent to do the same, it would be criticized and mocked into the grave.

it seems within months of me buying something a new better thing comes out.. first my phone, then some games, and now my ps3 is old after I got it in like April lol. I might get the ps4 in 2 or 3 years when I'm out of college or just wait for a ps5 whenever that might be. xbox is cool too I just refuse to pay for online. and I've been with the playstation since the first one anyway

Most Likely will get both :O but im going to get the PS4 first.

Valves' long awaited "Steam Machines" were just preliminarily announced.

I'll buy one of those.
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/

Might want to add ios and android devices to the mix as well. They are becoming a viable gaming market. Candy crush makes over $30 million a day last time I checked.

Ya but then you cant play GTA,BF4,COD on a cellphone..

Quote from: Ltin on September 25, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Might want to add ios and android devices to the mix as well. They are becoming a viable gaming market. Candy crush makes over $30 million a day last time I checked.

PC and Console gamers would like to have a word with you on what is considered a gaming market.

Quote from: UNIT 33 on September 25, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
Valves' long awaited "Steam Machines" were just preliminarily announced.

I'll buy one of those.
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/

I'll quite happily throw my non-existent money at one. They even let you use the thing to build a robot!

Okay so let's analyse this. We have a current generation (I'm referring to the 8th generation, not the 7th.) console running an open OS that has been optimized for gaming. Valve aren't holding you back from modifying the console or OS. The hardware in the higher end machines will probably beat out any of the other console for those that want to drop the bucks on it for those prettier graphics.

Now here's what catches my eye. Valve is going in all guns blazing. They are claiming hundreds are already running natively on SteamOS. That quite easily beats out any other 8th generation console's game library, even though they are most likely not new games. Now they've already announced that AAA titles are in development for SteamOS. So when it actually comes out they will most likely be some AAA titles ready to go for the system.

My main concern is that with all the manufacturers that the low end machines won't run the latest titles at an acceptable frame rate. Of course that is more of a case of buyer beware, buy a middle range one if you want it to last seems to be the case.

Quote from: Disciple on September 25, 2013, 04:05:36 PM
Ya but they you cant play GTA,BF4,COD on a cellphone..

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't even bother playing something like that on something as simple as a cellular device.. Why go smaller screen wise? We have ridiculously large high definition TVs, and spectacular consoles and computers with more than capable room on the screen to see your character get blown into bits :P
With my thumbs in the way of my player constantly, I seriously doubt it would be remotely fun.
--
The truth is, Phones are meant for calling, not gaming.
And I imagine the full version of a particular one of those games would take up quite an amount of space on an SD card for a phone as well.

I'm just waiting for the Aspyr SWBFI port to iPad! :D

Quote from: Kit Fisto on September 25, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
I'm just waiting for the Aspyr SWBFI port to iPad! :D

Here, here! Though I hope I have enough GBs cleared for it, KOTOR took up like 5-6GB storage if I remember correctly from the App Store.  :nervous:

Quote from: UNIT 33 on September 25, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
Valves' long awaited "Steam Machines" were just preliminarily announced.

I'll buy one of those.
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/

Take my money, Valve. All of my money.

Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on September 26, 2013, 05:47:57 AM
Here, here! Though I hope I have enough GBs cleared for it, KOTOR took up like 5-6GB storage if I remember correctly from the App Store.  :nervous:

It'll be smaller than KOTOR I think since SWBFI is simply smaller than KOTOR on the computer to begin with.

I really hope they do make a SWBFI iPad port. Just think about it,

KOTOR for iPad at the 10 year anniversary (2013)

SWBFI for iPad at the 10 year anniversary (2014)

For those who havnt seen yet: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/
Btw,can some explain what exactly it will be? Its like a Xbox/PS3 or more like a PC in your TV? There will be free games or youll have to pay the same as in PC? The games you have in PC will need to be repaid/redownloaded to play?

Quote from: Disciple on September 27, 2013, 12:43:57 PM
For those who havnt seen yet: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/
Btw,can some explain what exactly it will be? Its like a Xbox/PS3 or more like a PC in your TV? There will be free games or youll have to pay the same as in PC? The games you have in PC will need to be repaid/redownloaded to play?

Conjecture:
It's a console for the purpose of using Steam on your TV. So all purchases go through Steam, so you can play all the F2P games, enjoy the sales or buy whatever exists on Steam.
The titles at the moment are a select amount of titles already available on Steam.
You won't need to re-buy any titles you already own on Steam because... well they're in you're Steam library.
Installation would be required yeah.

Oh thanks.

Quote from: SleepKiller on September 25, 2013, 05:42:35 PM
PC and Console gamers would like to have a word with you on what is considered a gaming market.

Quote from: Ltinbecoming

Quote from: Ltin on September 25, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Might want to add ios and android devices to the mix as well. They are becoming a viable gaming market. Candy crush makes over $30 million a day last time I checked.

Maybe Obama should take some lessons from Candy Crush.

IOS  :sick:

Quote from: Ltin on September 25, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Might want to add ios and android devices to the mix as well. They are becoming a viable gaming market. Candy crush makes over $30 million a day last time I checked.

I like me some puzzle games and card matching stuff but I would hardly consider the android/phone casual games to be Next-Gen.

In the marketing world, where trends and profitability matter, then sure.. wave of the future and I bet a lot of folks in ties are really stoked about some match-the-color-to-win, coulda-been-a-flash-game-on-newgrounds , cash-cow.

If I dropped hundreds of dollars on a system, expecting a high impact gaming experience and was met with a selection of Worms, Breakout, Space Invaders, and 1001 variations on Tetris.... I'd set things on fire.

Even the portability is old-hat. I have Day of the Tentacle running on my old iPaq (no.. it's not an apple toy). A WinCE device from 2002.

The only Next-Gen-ish thing I could see the Android/Phone devices offering to the gaming world is perhaps using one as a controller? .. no.. Nintendo and Sony already did the wireless, flail it around thing. Multiple axis stuff is all over the place...

I know.. they could be used as wireless memory cards... ..oh.. everything is moving to cloud storage....

Well, I tried, but I guess the only thing they can offer is the magical ability to call you buddy to come over and play..... oh... facebook, email, IM.....

Ok.. are Android/Phones actually useful for anything at all?
They do make phone calls, right? That's still kinda relevant.

As an owner of a said Android phone I can assure you they do still make phone calls. Although that ability may have been patched. I hardly use the thing.

Quote from: tirpider on October 02, 2013, 05:37:06 PM
Ok.. are Android/Phones actually useful for anything at all?
They do make phone calls, right? That's still kinda relevant.

Besides having the power of some computers in the palm of your hand na, no good use. ;)

Picture this.

Your phone processor is a horse. Easier than walking but not as good as having a car.

An x86 processor is a fighter jet that can go around the world in under an hour.

Now for some specifications of phone GPU's for lolz.

I did some quick research and found the figure of 78 Gigaflops for the Tegra 4. (That's 78 billion floating point operations a second.) All right so pretty impressive.

The GeForce GTX 660 a card that is now around year old and isn't high end has a little over 2 Terraflops. That is 2 Trillion floating point operations a second. And  to put that into perspective a trillion is a million million.

So all that power and we are still seeing titles like "Popsicle Color Match"?

I know.. programming is hard, but I've never seen a phone actually doing anything impressive other than being a portable computer that's never used like one.

(One could argue that I am just bitter cause I don't have one... One would be correct :P )

I think people want an impressive interface, but don't really want to use it much.
Its like having 4 12gage shotguns under your bed; You hardly (if ever..) use them for what they're meant for (protection), but they give you a sense of security.

I think people wrap themselves in all this power, only to take it for granted later.
edit- I can't honestly say I blame them, for I am hardly different.

edit2- Its funny when numbers get really really Really big, we start coming up with goofy sounding names for them.

Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on October 02, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
edit2- Its funny when numbers get really really Really big, we start coming up with goofy sounding names for them.

These are all very serious measurements. Flop for instance is shorthand for floating point operation. A float is 32-Bits representing a number with a decimal point.

But I think you were talking about giga and tera. They are measurements in the metric system that seldom get used outside of computers. The words themselves are Greek and have a relation in thier meaning to the value they represent in the metric system.

Greek numbers don't get really weird to you get into the kratos. That's the point where the numerals themselves begin seeking revenge against the gods.

Computers can't operate in that range as the ashes from their past short everything out.

Quote from: tirpider on October 02, 2013, 07:10:29 PM
(One could argue that I am just bitter cause I don't have one... One would be correct :P )

Ok everyone! We are combining donations to get Tirpider an iPhone 5s!

Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 03, 2013, 06:59:40 AM
Ok everyone! We are combining donations to get Tirpider an iPhone 5s!

Hah, and no one posts on the topic every again.

Quote from: Kit Fisto on October 03, 2013, 06:59:40 AM
Ok everyone! We are combining donations to get Tirpider an iPhone 5s!

I have to be honest.. I like the weight and look of the actual iPhones as devices. But I would only use it to make phone calls. And my $10 motorolla from wal-mart does that just fine. Well, it did before I dropped the service 3 years ago. (omg, a person with no phone... but how?)

No phone. Wanna talk to me? Write me a letter. (or e-mail... I check it more often than the mail box.)

--thread killer

-edit
[spoiler]BTW, it blends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAuhUTzNwiY[/spoiler]

Quote from: tirpider on October 04, 2013, 07:04:19 PM
I have to be honest.. I like the weight and look of the actual iPhones as devices. But I would only use it to make phone calls. And my $10 motorolla from wal-mart does that just fine. Well, it did before I dropped the service 3 years ago. (omg, a person with no phone... but how?)

No phone. Wanna talk to me? Write me a letter. (or e-mail... I check it more often than the mail box.)

--thread killer

-edit
[spoiler]BTW, it blends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAuhUTzNwiY[/spoiler]

I'm with tirpider. I refuse to purchase a "modern" and "functional" mobile.
My mobile cost £14 and it flips open.
Can your iPhone flip open? I didn't think so (addons don't count).

So the general stats for the Steam Machines were released today. Boy they are impressive.

Quote from:  GabenHere are the specifications for Valve's 300 prototypes.

The 300 prototype units will ship with the following components:
GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
CPU: some boxes with Intel : i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 in high

Those steam machines look very nice (although the power supply seems low to me but I expect graphics cards use less power these days), I wonder what the price difference is between buying one or the components separately.