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Gaming for the Original SWBF1 and SWBF2/other games => SWBF 1 and 2 Tournaments => Topic started by: Led on April 13, 2011, 05:05:43 PM

Poll
Question: For the players in the sniper tournament:  Do you want to have recons available?
Option 1: Yes votes: 5
Option 2: No votes: 4
Option 3: Don't Care votes: 1
Title: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 13, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
Bracketed tournament (think March Madness)

Brackets get set on 4/24

each round will take about a week, teams will arranges matches at your convenience
semi-final and final rounds will likely be held in the same week


Servers are set up on DC and PC servers
DC:  69.246.184.48
use them at your convenience.  note that if you are playing a Mac team, you will need to use the DC (direct connection)  let me know if you have questions




2 man sniper teams, tk off, cloud city GCW

team A is Rebs, team B is Empire
25 tickets play to zero
team B is Rebs, team A is Empire
25 tickets, play to zero

teams take screen shots at end of each map, team with highest tickets remaining from the two maps combined advances in the tournament bracket, results need to be reported in this thread

A player can only be on one team.

modded CC map, no cps, sniper only units (no download needed)

I can host by direct connection or PC server, or teams can agree who will host.

1st, 2nd, 3rd place teams get immortalized on SWBFgamers.com tournament winners board (to be created!)

seeding for tournament is by random draw.

Teams can be any two players.

Players are asked to register at SWBFgamers.com

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Anything I missed ?


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If you want to host, use this mission file:
http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3621.msg38331#msg38331

and use this no-capture CC map:
http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3499.0

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Teams: 
1. Bamdur and Scrap
2. Schtick and Snake
3. ModTester and Fordo
4. Led and Quiz
5. Crusader and Darth
6. Shap and Viking
7. Snippers and Sleepkiller
8. Fire and Nice Guy
9. Bacarra and Festus
10. Zap and Q

Grouped Teams:

11. Hot Soup and Jamman
12. Syrion and Unit 33



others (looking for partner?)

Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 13, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
Definetley in this :P
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: SchTicK on April 14, 2011, 04:56:43 PM
This sounds like a blast sign me up. Anyone need a teammate?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Snake on April 14, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
I call SchTicK! :D
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: zap on April 14, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
I'll do it!!! :D
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 14, 2011, 07:27:06 PM
Try out the sniper tournament DC:

69.246.184.48  (standard map, no download needed)

Let me know if I need to tweak anything.

I will leave it up for several days.




Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Lyza on April 14, 2011, 08:55:38 PM
This could be a silly question, but this tournament takes place over 1 day or more?
Either way, I probally won't join.  :( The 24th is my first day back on battlefront for about 6 weeks .... so I will be out of practice.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: SleepKiller on April 14, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
I'll try make it.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Jamman on April 15, 2011, 03:36:25 AM
Ive got a question, what are the scheduled times?

it just so happens that's the beginning of spring break so i might not be on much, and if i were to miss a match with my partner, would he fight alone, or rescheduled, or what :blink:
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 15, 2011, 07:25:07 AM
Hi Jamman,

We will have to determine what teams play each other, then give them a week or so for each round of the tournament.  The date is not set in stone, so we can move it to make it more convenient.  I would rather keep players in it than to have dates that are too rigid.

Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 15, 2011, 08:01:32 AM
Will you be using no recon mod also?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 15, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: ModTester on April 15, 2011, 08:01:32 AM
Will you be using no recon mod also?

I don't know how to implement that without download, but if you know how we can do that if the participants would like that.

If there is a concensus for no-recons and the mod is not availaable, then it may also be possible to spend some time to figure out how Battlebelk did it.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 15, 2011, 12:09:47 PM
Ha Modtester made that mod already... Should teams be randomize or self picked
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 15, 2011, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: Bamdur on April 15, 2011, 12:09:47 PM
Should teams be randomize or self picked

I would suggest self picked.  If someone needs a match we can pair players though.

Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Jamman on April 15, 2011, 12:51:50 PM
i support recons as its part of the unit. if you got rid of them, might as well get rid of nades to. good luck in the tourney rage, ill make sure to spam the recons at ya.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 16, 2011, 07:47:34 AM
LmaoXD Once every one finished picking teams im going to make the bracket so everybody report there teams
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: ^snippers^ on April 16, 2011, 10:52:28 AM
ill take part in the tournament.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 01:39:25 PM
Quote from: Jamman on April 15, 2011, 12:51:50 PM
i support recons as its part of the unit. if you got rid of them, might as well get rid of nades to. good luck in the tourney rage, ill make sure to spam the recons at ya.
Good luck spamming recons at me BrownBread, I've seen it many times before. Who said I was in the tournament?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: Buckler on April 15, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
If there is a concensus for no-recons and the mod is not availaable, then it may also be possible to spend some time to figure out how Battlebelk did it.

Should a poll be made then? I support no recons. It does nothing but slow the game down and encourages camping. Also, I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how Battlebelk did it, and I think I figured it out.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Jamman on April 16, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
May I make a poll?

I formally request by the admins to disable the use of grenades, seeing they can be used for spam, excess spawnkilling and might have the ability to slow the game down.

Also, pistols. I see no use of them. Lets disband from pistols and make this a complete sniper rifle tournament.

:cheers:
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 04:51:38 PM
Quote from: Jamman on April 16, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
May I make a poll?

I formally request by the admins to disable the use of grenades, seeing they can be used for spam, excess spawnkilling and might have the ability to slow the game down.

Also, pistols. I see no use of them. Lets disband from pistols and make this a complete sniper rifle tournament.

:cheers:
How do nades slow down the game? If you are talking about the explosion animation, then recons are much worse. I have a good graphics card however, and don't lag from either.

I have done some testing with mods and found that so far online compatibility is extremely limited. To do a sniper rifle only mod would require a downloaded custom side lvl, which is impracticable for some.

I have found that the only possible online compatible solutions which don't require custom files are the possible following:
- No recons but nades
- No nades but recon(s)
- No health packs but fusion cutter
- No fusion cutter but health packs
etc. for landmines, basically where a unit has 2 secondary weapons, one can be removed. If both are, clients crash. I am trying to find a way to disable one of the primary weapons (like pistol), but so far it is also crashing when I do that.

A possible online solution for the sniper only mod would be removing nades, then with the recon mod it so it instantly dies and does no damage. The only thing to remove then is the pistol, which I am testing various ideas for.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Jamman on April 16, 2011, 05:07:54 PM
Then how about we just don't play with mods.   :slap:

"It does nothing but slow the game down and encourages camping."

"How do grenades slow down the game? If you are talking about the explosion animation, then recons are much worse. I have a good graphics card however, and don't lag from either."

Then it's settled. I get how this is the modding website for SWBF. But it's not the modding tournament. This is a sniper only 2v2 tournament. The game creators or designers I'm not sure who, gave the unit "Marksmen, or Sharp Shooter" with the arsenal of: Rifle, Grenade, Recon, Pistol.  :whip:

Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
I'm just wondering if battlebelk's no recon mod will be compatible with the custom mission and no cp mods used by the tournament host. It should be, I don't see why it wouldn't.

Quote from: Buckler on April 15, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
I don't know how to implement that without download, but if you know how we can do that if the participants would like that.
Why can't battlebelk's no recon mod be used? Did he make gcw only?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 16, 2011, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: ModTester on April 16, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
I'm just wondering if battlebelk's no recon mod will be compatible with the custom mission and no cp mods used by the tournament host. It should be, I don't see why it wouldn't.
Why can't battlebelk's no recon mod be used? Did he make gcw only?

It probably could be.  Im not sure where that mod lives--side file?

In any event, if recons are available (still to be determined) then just take out the ammo bots and then the most a team would get would be one per life, since no one can spawn as pilot.

Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
Quote from: Buckler on April 16, 2011, 06:05:25 PM
It probably could be.  Im not sure where that mod lives--side file?

In any event, if recons are available (still to be determined) then just take out the ammo bots and then the most a team would get would be one per life, since no one can spawn as pilot.

Yeah, the recon disable mod is done with a side lvl edit, not a hex edit. It took hours of failure at hex editing to abandon that pursuit. It is something I am studying and testing and might make a tutorial about soon.

Also, I will be signing up for the tournament with Fordo as my partner.

If the server is direct connect will it be /noaim?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Fire on April 16, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
@Jamman and Rage fight= Recon battle. Could you have a backup partner just in case your partner can't be there for the battle?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 16, 2011, 07:33:18 PM
Quote from: ModTester on April 16, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
Yeah, the recon disable mod is done with a side lvl edit, not a hex edit. It took hours of failure at hex editing to abandon that pursuit. It is something I am studying and testing and might make a tutorial about soon.

Also, I will be signing up for the tournament with Fordo as my partner.

If the server is direct connect will it be /noaim?

Excellent, we have our first team.

I am not sure if /noaim works with the CD version of the game.  I can try it.  I don't have a way to check it though.


I will never understand why the PC version of dedicated server wasn't made to support DC's...
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 16, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: Buckler on April 16, 2011, 07:33:18 PM
Excellent, we have our first team.

I am not sure if /noaim works with the CD version of the game.  I can try it.  I don't have a way to check it though.


I will never understand why the PC version of dedicated server wasn't made to support DC's...

Have you seen my VLAN tutorial? That is another possibility.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: SleepKiller on April 16, 2011, 09:18:13 PM
I need a partner any one want to be mine? :wave:
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 17, 2011, 06:53:08 AM
Quote from: ModTester on April 16, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
Have you seen my VLAN tutorial? That is another possibility.

Do you know if it can support cross-platform play?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: HOT SOUP on April 17, 2011, 10:09:44 AM
I AM TOTALLY IN   :D'
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: HOT SOUP on April 17, 2011, 10:10:51 AM
I AM 100% IN THIS!  :D
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 17, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
Me and my Other leader Scrap will participate.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Ç®ÚSÃĐ3R™ on April 17, 2011, 10:44:41 AM
Me and a mate want to join the 2on2 Sniper cup.

Our XFire Addys are:

Ç®ÚSÃĐ3R™: franz197
Darth: darth49

I hope we can join
:wave:
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bacara on April 17, 2011, 12:03:30 PM
Cool, this sounds awesome. Haven't been on here in a while but is anybody still looking for a sniper partner? If so, I'm available ;)

~Bac
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 17, 2011, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: Fire on April 16, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
Could you have a backup partner just in case your partner can't be there for the battle?

Well, the way I see this working is that Team A and Team B get together to agree on a time that works
for the 4 players, within about one week for each round.  So let's stick with original teams. 

If this tournament is successful, we can try something more elaborate.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 17, 2011, 04:01:46 PM
Quote from: Buckler on April 17, 2011, 06:53:08 AM
Do you know if it can support cross-platform play?

I am not sure if it does. I know that mac cannot join online, but if mac can join lan and install tuungle then it would probably work. It would allow the use of dedicated tools, which is not available for cross-platform internet or DC.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: SchTicK on April 18, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: SnΛke on April 14, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
I call SchTicK! :D
I got your back Sn/\ke.

I also support full weapons. If it was strictly a sniping tournament, a match could take a very long time.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Snake on April 18, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: SchTicK on April 18, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
I got your back Sn/\ke.

I also support full weapons. If it was strictly a sniping tournament, a match could take a very long time.

I second that.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on April 18, 2011, 03:29:29 PM
The recons vs no recons poll seems to be tied atm. Whether they are to be allowed or not, I still think the tourny should be sniper only (mission mod). If enough people are concerned about health bots or the match taking too long, keep in mind that another possibility is to use a common.lvl mod to disable health bots from healing players.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 18, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
OK, I'm going to lock voting.  We will have recons available for use. 

Since teams will switch sides, each side will have equal availablity to the nearest ammo bots.

I will update the first post.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: VOLDEMORT on April 18, 2011, 08:19:22 PM
{PLA} VOLDEMORT IS IN.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 19, 2011, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: Ç®ÚSÃĐ3R™ on April 17, 2011, 10:44:41 AM
Me and a mate want to join the 2on2 Sniper cup.

Our XFire Addys are:

Ç®ÚSÃĐ3R™: franz197
Darth: darth49

I hope we can join
:wave:

Absolutely!   Glad to have ya!
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Shap on April 20, 2011, 03:21:58 AM
I'll join too!

My teammate is -=(No)=- Viking (he isn't a site member but I think that it is okay)

We hope that it's going to be a fair tounrament without any complications.

cya in-game

- Shap
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 20, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
Ill be posting a new thread for signups soon. there everybody who wants to particapate sign up and BTW theres only 4 more days left
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 20, 2011, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Bamdur on April 20, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
Ill be posting a new thread for signups soon. there everybody who wants to particapate sign up and BTW theres only 4 more days left

This is the signup thread :)
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: NiceGuy on April 21, 2011, 08:11:59 AM
I'm in. Anyone still need a partner???
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Fire on April 21, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
I may need one NiceGuy
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: ^snippers^ on April 21, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
I'll need a partner too. If anyone would like to participate with me, I would be happy to accept!
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Qkslvr77 on April 21, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
I might have missed it somewhere, what time does this start on 4/24?
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bamdur on April 21, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
If teams arent decided by 4/24 then they will be randomly picked.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: SleepKiller on April 21, 2011, 08:17:22 PM
Quote from: ^snippers^ on April 21, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
I'll need a partner too. If anyone would like to participate with me, I would be happy to accept!

Well since we both need parters may as well be each others if you want to.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: ^snippers^ on April 21, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: SleepKiller on April 21, 2011, 08:17:22 PM
Well since we both need parters may as well be each others if you want to.

Sure, ill be your partner! Can't wait to start this tournament!
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 21, 2011, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: Qkslvr77 on April 21, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
I might have missed it somewhere, what time does this start on 4/24?

hi quick, we will release the random bracket on sunday, and matches are set up between the teams anytime during the week
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Syyy on April 22, 2011, 02:24:26 AM
Well i dont have a partner, anyone wanna be with me ? ;)
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: NiceGuy on April 22, 2011, 05:05:55 PM
Fire and I are gonna team up.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Bacara on April 23, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Me and Festus would like to sign up for this if it isn't to late.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on April 23, 2011, 12:23:25 PM
Quote from: Bacara on April 23, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Me and Festus would like to sign up for this if it isn't to late.

gotcha man!
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: zap on April 23, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
Q and i! :D
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: VOLDEMORT on April 23, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
Turns out I won't be able to participate. I'm lagging horribly these days and I doubt I will be able to fix this this on time.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Unit 33 on April 24, 2011, 04:05:41 AM
I'll team with somebody who needs a guy, if it's not too late notice.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Phobos on May 09, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
I have a question. My friend Smokey said that he fought in this tournament and is all signed up, and here was his fight http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/113852882-4.jpg

I am just wondering if this battle really was official like he says it is, because none of the people who fought are names that I recognize from this community. I don't see him anywhere on the bracket but Smokey insists it was official.
Title: Re: 2-player Sniper Team Tournament, starts 4/24
Post by: Led on May 15, 2011, 02:02:20 PM
Quote from: Zombie Hotel Developer on May 09, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
I have a question. My friend Smokey said that he fought in this tournament and is all signed up, and here was his fight http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/113852882-4.jpg

I am just wondering if this battle really was official like he says it is, because none of the people who fought are names that I recognize from this community. I don't see him anywhere on the bracket but Smokey insists it was official.

Ya, I have a server setup that anyone can join, called SWBFgamers.com-Sniper-Tournament.  I believe that they think that if they play there, they are in the tournament.  But they need to be signed up here for them to be placed in the bracket.

If both of those teams want to be in the tournament, then thats fine, we can add them somewhere, but that match would not count.

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