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mercs and uneven teams
« on: August 17, 2014, 04:01:00 PM »
help me understand this, i'm new around here.

BOB and FC played a match. FC had 4 members, BOB had 5. FC brought in a merc to make it 5v5. why is BOB allowed to bring in 2 mercs to make the teams uneven again? shouldn't mercs only be used to make teams even? it just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 04:04:50 PM »
The rule is attackers can outnumber the defenders by 2. They brought in mercs so they could use that advantage.
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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 04:07:50 PM »
The rule is attackers can outnumber the defenders by 2. They brought in mercs so they could use that advantage.

okay, but why? that ruins any balance the game has. it doesn't make sense.

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 04:21:01 PM »
We have specified this Wyobear.  Attackers are allowed to outnumber by 2.  If FC had brought 15 members, they could have all played, because you were defending.
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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2014, 04:26:06 PM »
shouldn't mercs only be used to make teams even?
Why?

okay, but why? that ruins any balance the game has. it doesn't make sense.

Attackers get to choose times, defenders get to outnumber (and may only be outnumbered by 2). So the policy is a tradeoff: it sacrifices a bit of in-game balance in exchange for a bit more overall tournament balance.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:33:33 PM by Oven »

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 04:28:31 PM »
Thats wrong phantom.
The time was the worst possible for euro players, so dont come with that of members.
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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 04:32:42 PM »
Well no rules were broken.  so i suggest we lock or take away this thread before ppl get childish and start a hate war?  (just seeing it coming)

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 05:26:33 PM »
Thats wrong phantom.
The time was the worst possible for euro players, so dont come with that of members.

Just like to point out dynasty was dedicated enough to play at 12:00 midnight even though he was tired.
I played until 11:30pm even though I'm catching a flight today.

Since we don't have Eastern Europeans playing, I think the time zones are perfect, 3-6 est is fine. It just comes down to how willing people are to play.

... As for the merc thing, looks like people answered it above.


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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2014, 05:31:49 PM »
Lol Lion, ALL germans go to sleep at 10 cause that's the usual time to go to sleep there, as in france and many other countries, so this gives u the advantage that only american uef members join the fight what stands for 0 players.

As you said many times, this is a game so u shouldnt be conditioned to play it when it's the worst time ever.
It's alright to schedule it on saturday night at 6pm EST, but not sunday cause people have a job, and are not gonna go to sleep at 12, when they wake up at 6-7 to go work.
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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2014, 05:31:58 PM »
Wyo and I are Swbf2 players, so maybe Swbf2 players are just more autistic then Swbf1 or something but I don't see how in any competitive stand point you can argue uneven teams is better tournament balance. If that is tournament balance, I can see why Swbf1 died years before Swbf2.
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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 06:24:10 PM »
I think the rules are meant to make the ICW more even. So that clans with quantity can compete against clans with quality. I think we are all so use to these rules now that we haven't really considered what players who haven't played in the ICW before might think about them. They probably see tournaments as quality vs quality (even teams) to see who is the better team. The ICW is more about quantity. If you outnumber your opponent you have a massive advantage. I could be wrong, but this is why I think that rule is in place.

I think the rule for past ICWs was that defenders can not be outnumbered at all. It was changed for this one. I think it might have had something to do with clans who would only bring like 2 players.

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2014, 06:26:26 PM »
Well so you guys outnumbering at these battles is any diffrence?
This have not been a problem or anything someone have complained about until you guys lost to it.   :XD:
Not saying its anything wrong with doing it, since its nothing against the rules. Just wondering why complain about it now when you have done it before?
Im out of this conversation now, i dont see any point in keep talking about it. 

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2014, 06:35:54 PM »
ggwp instead. Good matches this week. looking forward to fun matches next week too :) (almost everybody could behave)

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2014, 06:44:39 PM »
Lol Lion, ALL germans go to sleep at 10 cause that's the usual time to go to sleep there, as in france and many other countries

Just curious, is that some german "you must be in bed at 10 or exile" or something? I hope america has no such usual time or im living life wrong  :slap:

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Re: mercs and uneven teams
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2014, 07:53:25 PM »
i'm not saying any rules were broken and i'm not sure why you think i represent FC's opinion on this matter; i'm basically a trial member that has been here for like 3 days. you may have not noticed but my name is not in any of those screenshots. i'm just saying i believe the rule is broken and detrimental to the competition but i guess i'm the only one who sees it that way.

as far as it balancing out the attackers choosing the time; how does that work? i don't understand how that balances a 6v9 match?