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Title: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on March 10, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
This is the Syndicate discussion thread. The latest version of the Standards & Tenets will be attached to this post. It describes what the Syndicate is.


List of clans and their level of interest: http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3540.msg95723#msg95723

Syndicate clan (for clanless SWBF players): http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=3540.msg95818#msg95818
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: skirata44 on March 10, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Its a good idea, it really is. Theres just one problem-most clans dont allow you to be in more than 1 clan. To be in that clan, youve gotta sever all ties to the other one. I dunno if people would wanna do that, especially if theyre already in a really exclusive clan.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on March 10, 2011, 09:44:20 PM
Hey skirata,

I think the idea is like a SWBFgamers "fun night".  For something like that, I don't think that anyone needs to be held to exclusivity.

We already have an ongoing tournament.  After that (maybe during) we can set up a regular mod map night.   As long as we host it by Direct Connection, then we can also involve the Mac players that are still around.  They are good peeps :)



Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: SchTicK on March 11, 2011, 12:54:19 PM
I would be up for that idea if it were DC. Thanks for considering the Mac Minority.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on March 11, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Yeah, this would not be a "traditional" clan. It's just like Led said, A SWBFGamers fun night and mod night and tourneys. Just for fun.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Syyy on March 11, 2011, 02:09:14 PM
A funteam in short, it would be great :)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: skirata44 on March 11, 2011, 03:10:46 PM
Oh, ok. Sorry, my bad. Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: ^snippers^ on March 11, 2011, 06:33:24 PM
Its a good idea, it really is. Theres just one problem-most clans dont allow you to be in more than 1 clan. To be in that clan, youve gotta sever all ties to the other one. I dunno if people would wanna do that, especially if theyre already in a really exclusive clan.
Maybe instead of it being a clan (correct me if it has already been said[sort of skimmed the posts]) we could make this a group, more like a bunch of star wars players who have fun together, instead of being in a clan. :happy:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on March 11, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
Thats kind of the definition of a clan lol so lets just leave it at clan. A funclan!
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Fire on March 11, 2011, 06:44:53 PM
sounds cool , I'd be apart if , to clear this up i wouldnt have to leave my clan. Its a good idea too  :tu:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: camando116 on June 09, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
look at the new poll to see what people want

Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 18, 2014, 02:54:18 PM
>Sorry, but I feel the need to bring this topic back to life.
With the disappearances of a lot of clans, due to mainly the Gamespy issue, I think it would be a great opportunity for SWBFG to not just be a fun-night group, but actually more so a clan with its traditions.

I would definetely come back and play SWBF more if SWBFG were happening. I think it would be a great clan, but not just for SWBF1...
Battlefront 2 would also be a great step for an SWBFG clan, and great representation for the site.

As for the existing clans~...
Existing clans should allow their members to be apart of SWBFG, almost as a big clan alliance.
However, many traditional clan ways could be hindered by an alliance affect in SWBFG.
SWBFG can still happen with their own organized meets/parties/fun-days/etc.
Correct me anywhere if I've mistaken something.

TL;DR(Too Long; Didn't Read) Version of the previous text:

Basically we should have SWBFG for great website representation on Battlefront 1 and 2. Due to some clans currently being still existent, they should allow their members to be a part of SWBFG as an alliance of sorts, but it would hinder on traditional clan ways.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on March 19, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
And we could move into swbf3 with it when battlefront makes its glorious return
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 19, 2014, 09:15:13 AM
And we could move into swbf3 with it when battlefront makes its glorious return
Yeah!
It would be a great turn for us
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on March 19, 2014, 11:09:17 AM
I think the thing we are missing right now is a fun group event, like a mod map night.

If someone would volunteer to organize a Sunday afternoon mod map event, I would consider giving them server access to put the maps in place.

Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Dark_Phantom on March 19, 2014, 12:54:51 PM
I volunteer.  Although if unforeseen circumstances come up, you may need a backup plan.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {TCE}Call-of-Duty on March 19, 2014, 07:29:58 PM
Here's some drafts for the clan tag (SWBFG), [SWBFG], {SWBFG}, and for the hardcore users -={](SWBFG)[}=-. May the Schwartz be with you SALLY i mean DP in planning mod map nights :tu:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 19, 2014, 07:57:21 PM
drafts for the clan tag (SWBFG), [SWBFG], {SWBFG}, and for the hardcore users -={](SWBFG)[}=-

I think we've all got clan tags figured out by now xD
Except for Wusi, theyve got it funny. but cool.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on March 19, 2014, 08:00:39 PM
I think we've all got clan tags figured out by now xD
Except for Wusi, theyve got it funny. but cool.

its dishonorable to have your tag as Wusi because of beta and his handling with swbf2 ever since him its been common practice to use WUSI because of this reason....the more you know
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 19, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
its dishonorable to have your tag as Wusi

I'm not sure If I'm taken an implication right, but are you saying it would be dishonorable for one to be in WUSI right now? darn, i was really trying to come back to the clan like i was in years past. I still want to, but if this is a No, then i dont know...
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on March 19, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
I'm not sure If I'm taken an implication right, but are you saying it would be dishonorable for one to be in WUSI right now? darn, i was really trying to come back to the clan like i was in years past. I still want to, but if this is a No, then i dont know...

i mean it being in not caps haha like WUSI not Wusi
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 19, 2014, 08:07:17 PM
i mean it being in not caps haha like WUSI not Wusi
Ahh i see, i see.

But, that brings up a question i should ask anyway.
Would you accept me back to the clan? this time i have severed my ties with other clans. i really want to rejoin the family
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on March 19, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Ahh i see, i see.

But, that brings up a question i should ask anyway.
Would you accept me back to the clan? this time i have severed my ties with other clans. i really want to rejoin the family

thats fine with me haha go ahead
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 19, 2014, 08:08:52 PM
Sweet! is http://wusisky4.webs.com/ (http://wusisky4.webs.com/) still the homepage?


I think the thing we are missing right now is a fun group event, like a mod map night.If someone would volunteer to organize a Sunday afternoon mod map event, I would consider giving them server access to put the maps in place.
EVERYONE should try to make it to this event. I want to see some old faces since I've just recently returned to the game myself.When I say EVERYONE, I'm talking to you too GoldMan! I don't care what anime you're watching now! xD
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on March 20, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
When I say EVERYONE, I'm talking to you too GoldMan! I don't care what anime you're watching now! xD

The games have stopped hiding from me, but I can never build up enough dedication to put the disc in my computer. :P

Besides, I've become actively involved with other online communities (Pixel Gun 3D Wiki and Respawnables forum), and with the amount of work piling up on me it'll be hard for me to find time for the event. Weekends may be ideal, but even then that's when I find is the peak moment to watch anime and such. However, my amount of actively ongoing cartoons and anime is fairly low, so I might hop on for the weekend. We'll see though, Ultimo, I can't make any promises.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 20, 2014, 06:54:52 PM
The games have stopped hiding from me, but I can never build up enough dedication to put the disc in my computer. :P

Besides, I've become actively involved with other online communities (Pixel Gun 3D Wiki and Respawnables forum), and with the amount of work piling up on me it'll be hard for me to find time for the event. Weekends may be ideal, but even then that's when I find is the peak moment to watch anime and such. However, my amount of actively ongoing cartoons and anime is fairly low, so I might hop on for the weekend. We'll see though, Ultimo, I can't make any promises.

You better! xD


I assume the scheduled fun night went well. I didn't find my way in until after it seemed a good few of the people left.Back to SWBFG now I suppose?what do you guys think? Should we try it?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Dark_Phantom on March 26, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
Fun night never happened because Phantom didn't get the maps up and couldn't access the server from his computer because he kept making a mistake... it's on Sunday 3/30 now.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {TCE}Call-of-Duty on March 26, 2014, 09:06:20 PM
Back to SWBFG now I suppose?
what do you guys think? Should we try it?
Do these polls lie?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: SleepKiller on March 26, 2014, 09:30:06 PM
Do these polls lie?
Is this poll from 2011? Yes. Are half the votes from 2011? Yes. Is the poll accurate then? No.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on March 28, 2014, 09:12:16 PM
Is this poll from 2011? Yes. Are half the votes from 2011? Yes. Is the poll accurate then? No.

Poll could be reset, right? (Assuming we want to try to get the fair votes in for this "era.")
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 15, 2014, 08:00:48 PM
Alright well 1.0 212 and WUSI have agreed to do a sort of city state greece dealy or like a UN for swbf 3 if led is up to it we would be glad to have you onboard for this sort of plan
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 15, 2014, 08:15:10 PM
Poll could be reset, right? (Assuming we want to try to get the fair votes in for this "era.")

I suggest you make a new poll, or really, I think that anyone that is interested has recently responded.  If you want to call yourselfs a SWBFGamers clan, then have at it  ;)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 15, 2014, 09:05:19 PM
Hmm, a coalition of SWBF1 clans to compete as one in SWBF3. Sounds awesome! Poll is now reset.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 15, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
Hmm, a coalition of SWBF1 clans to compete as one in SWBF3. Sounds awesome! Poll is now reset.
ya thats what we want to do with all of the willing clans to do and ya the name hasnt like...been discussed to an extent but all clans involved would be seperate entities but we would be unified by our swbf1 ties to assist each other in like big wars agaist future clans
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 15, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
I think that is only right. We all have a common bond that people in SWBF3 won't have. We will need to have some kind of judicial system for when there are disputes between the clans. Instead of forming courts and things let's just say Led gets the final word. xD If SWBF3 is any good then I might bring AaTc back during college and will join the coalition. Or maybe I'll just join up with one of the SWBF1 clans.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 16, 2014, 05:36:08 AM
I for one am in full agreement for this coalition.

Our clan just has me and 4 other people in it, so I can't exactly do much else to support the clan right now until EASWBF is released.

Perhaps we should have a democratic leadership structure (rather than pin everything on Led). Besides, they say two heads are better than one, but how about three or five heads? Not sure if it's already been proposed, but say we have a representative leader from each clan. These representatives will represent the clan they are apart of or lead. That way, when events occur that affect our entire clan, we have a structure of leadership to help oversee a judicial system, or to simply discuss major events in the community that affect us.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 16, 2014, 05:46:35 AM
Just have the head(s) representing each clan form together and meet occasionally to discuss things... like the Republic or CIS kinda does.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Ltin on April 16, 2014, 05:49:02 AM
I think its a great idea, and a good way to distinguish ourselves from the endless drones of other people that will be playing.
But is the poll really necessary?  We all know the answer.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Black Water on April 16, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
SWBFgamers doesn't really sound as a good name imo, maybe something like SWBF UC (United Clans), or something like that.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 16, 2014, 09:36:37 AM
SWBFgamers doesn't really sound as a good name imo, maybe something like SWBF UN, or something like that.

I was thinking of something like UBF or UBFG (United BattleFront [Gamers]).
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Commander Awesome on April 16, 2014, 11:39:26 AM
Maybe SWBFA (Star Wars Battlefront Alliance), I like Gold Man's suggestion, too.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 16, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Yeah, there will be a representative of each clan that will meet together in a sort of "senate." I like th names but I think it needs to specify we're from SWBF1 because technically, the new game is also called SWBF.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 16, 2014, 02:42:52 PM
the name can be modified after we see which clans are down to do this. the idea i had in mind was like 1 leader from every clan forms a council and essentially the things wed vote on would be the inclusion of other clans to our coalition to say like if aatc (yes i took aatc as an example because of you snake :D) if they made a come back in swbf3 and wanted ties to swbf 1 we could vote (pretty much a unanimous yes in this example) and 2/3rds majority would be needed to include that....same with the removal of a clan from the coalition take for example if i went crazy and crashed all your servers and got all your sites frozen id hope you remaining council members would vote WUSI out of the coalition( if that happened((which it wouldnt))....things like oh he called me fat should be avoided in a conversation in a meeting and ya i agree if something is really really wrong and noone is agreeing on anything led should have a more or less fail safe yes or no vote because hes managed to keep the peace here at swbfgamers so on the probably very rare chance for some odd reason we all cant agree on an issue led can have the overall final decisions on those problems only due to his ability to keep the peace fairly well and ya obviously wed have to iron out the kinks wed run into with this agreement but i feel it could be done
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 16, 2014, 07:18:56 PM
[BFO]

BattleFront Originals.

*ding ding ding*

Are we structuring like this?
(http://s29.postimg.org/48135njt3/image.png)
OR Like This?
(http://s30.postimg.org/iud6xawc1/image.png)

I really want to try and draw/type/piece together whatever we come up with for this thing as sort of a... Constitution. An original structure; A Blueprint.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Dark_Phantom on April 16, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
I find the reference to "Overlord Led" quite amusing.  I'm sure if we were going to go that far with it (which it is probably a 98% we won't), I would say we give him some title like "Super Ultimate Uncomparable Indescribable Overlord of Overlords Led"
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 17, 2014, 03:46:31 AM
something like this http://greece.mrdonn.org/city-states.html
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Darth Verik on April 17, 2014, 04:07:19 AM
lolol i've been inactive for quite a while and when i see something like this, i just get a smile on my face. I'd love to join this, even though i can't play SWBF anymore. Just the idea of seeing democracy come to forums is well…cute xD
I hope you guys make it happen. Its definitely worth making this community of players into a band of brothers.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 17, 2014, 05:53:05 AM
 I can't wait to say "The democracy is dead--long live the Empire!"
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 17, 2014, 11:25:19 PM
I have no clue why but I'm really liking this SWBFG idea...
Or well, BattleFront Originals as I want to call us  :tu:

(http://i.gyazo.com/c750404e0d7a8dc17b995b2dfdb3ae11.png)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 18, 2014, 11:04:32 AM
BFO, I like that! And I think Led will really be more of a deciding factor on things, not the only factor, if you know what I mean. Let's just not give him emergency powers over the clone armies...
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Ltin on April 18, 2014, 02:37:18 PM
BFO, I like that! And I think Led will really be more of a deciding factor on things, not the only factor, if you know what I mean. Let's just not give him emergency powers over the clone armies...
No, instead we need to give him emergency powers over the wampa armies.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 18, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
No, instead we need to give him emergency powers over the wampa armies.
Wait, perhaps the Gungans instead? Hey, they're nearly useless but I hear they reproduce every 2nd moon! ;)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Ltin on April 18, 2014, 05:04:41 PM
Wait, perhaps the Gungans instead? Hey, they're nearly useless but I hear they reproduce every 2nd moon! ;)
I would much rather give him hundreds of murder machines than billions of cannon fodder.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 19, 2014, 05:40:04 PM
I would much rather give him hundreds of murder machines than billions of cannon fodder.
Even with the math, those Gungans are still pretty decent with their little grenades... I think your clone army may actually have lost the war this time. ;)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Ltin on April 19, 2014, 06:03:06 PM
Even with the math, those Gungans are still pretty decent with their little grenades... I think your clone army may actually have lost the war this time. ;)
There comes a point when quantity does surpass quality.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 19, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
There comes a point when quantity does surpass quality.
Bingo! Thanks for agreeing with me. :)


IDEA!!What if BFO wasn't exactly a clan, but we used it to get players of the upcoming battlefront to join SWBFGamers.com, then from there the players branched out into other SWBF clans?With BFO looking like an actual clan in the upcoming battlefront, we will surely gain attention, and when we do we can get people to join the site and join a clan.That way BFO doesn't have to worry about dragging members out of SWBF clans, we are only giving to others! We also don't even have to worry about meets and such, unless we all wanted to get together for a little fun. ;)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on May 26, 2014, 07:03:24 PM
IDEA!!

What if BFO wasn't exactly a clan, but we used it to get players of the upcoming battlefront to join SWBFGamers.com, then from there the players branched out into other SWBF clans?
With BFO looking like an actual clan in the upcoming battlefront, we will surely gain attention, and when we do we can get people to join the site and join a clan.
That way BFO doesn't have to worry about dragging members out of SWBF clans, we are only giving to others! We also don't even have to worry about meets and such, unless we all wanted to get together for a little fun. ;)

While that may work, we have to consider:
A) Lots of long-time Battlefrontians will be returning to this game, many probably with not the same morals or ethics as this community is built upon. This may make organization within BFO difficult due to clashes of morals and such from veteran/returning players.
B) This will also attract generic DICE/EA fans as well. We'll be facing trolls, possible hackers, 12 year olds in an M-rated game, and people that swear like sailors. People who are battle-hardened to Battlefield, and are probably expecting the same experience.

In other words, it may work, but keep in mind both Battlefronts have drastically different communities, both in regards to ethics and rules. On top of that, we'll have a whole new fanbase for this game, meaning many different characters, some we haven't even seen since the early days of this game.

Forgive if I've stated this before, but if we attempt a BFO clan for the new SWBF, we'll have a whole slew of people with varying personas to work with, which will prove difficult.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on June 28, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
I totally understand GM.

Hey guys! EASWBF is just 'round the corner! Any discussions more about BFO? Thoughts? Ideas?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Ltin on June 29, 2014, 08:15:20 AM
I totally understand GM.

Hey guys! EASWBF is just 'round the corner! Any discussions more about BFO? Thoughts? Ideas?
Its not really very near yet. We're still 6+ months away.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on June 29, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
Think of it in a way that it seems near because it's already been so many years since SWBF2. lol

I don't know if anybody else noticed, but if you still use Classic XFire, you have likely gotten an invite to join the BFO community on Classic.
I'm trying to use Classic XFire versus the new one. So much better than all of this tournament crap XF is trying to pull.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on September 30, 2014, 08:39:13 PM
http://gametracker.com/clan/BFO
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/clan/BFO/type-460x42_cborder-529CFF_ctop-9E9E9E_cbottom-000000_ctext1-FFFFFF_ctext2-FFFFFF_chighlight-529CFF.png) (http://www.gametracker.com/clan/BFO/)

I got bored, so why not? Maybe we will use this later... So I saved the domain space for us.

To fit more into the SWBFGamers theme (white and gray, because the default website theme obviously), I think I will update the Logo later, perhaps?

I don't honestly know about you guys but I'm in high hopes for this pulling through when EASWBF comes around.

The most prominent site ranks were added to the team, and tell me if I missed something (I know Master Modder isn't there yet- Still trying to decide if that goes just below Site Moderator...).
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Commander Awesome on September 30, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
I'd just like to say that if you guys are doing it, I'd be happy to join if I can.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Norwood on September 30, 2014, 09:25:32 PM
The idea interests me, and there are a lot of things that can be done with this... But I'm not sure how BOB will view this, and I'm not sure that this would be good for BOB. So I'm going to wait and see.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on September 30, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
I don't believe Alpha Clan has much of a response towards BFO yet, however assuming the community doesn't suffer a major drought, Alpha Clan might hop on board. (We have our own ideas of expansion to the new SWBF, however the amount of active members in the clan is still somewhat dwindlish, and I'm not too sure many of our members would be able to have a decent rig to play it on PC (I plan to refurbish my desktop this year, but again it's still up in the air wit all the members).
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on October 01, 2014, 12:00:09 PM
A drought happening soon? I'm not sure.

I mean, we have our old guys moving out, like Snake, but I see more and more new faces coming back all the time, just like Ross came back.

I'm going to keep my hopes up for awhile as long as this trend continues.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on December 10, 2014, 06:58:13 AM
I've thought a little more with this SWBFG clan(BFO) thing, and it brings me to one question now...

We're looking at SWBF3 from DICE, so what system are we all going to be playing it on? At this point, I know I'm not going to be upgrading my PC, so I'll likely end up with a PS4 and Battlefront.

What systems are you guys going to be using for the new Battlefront? I'm asking here so I can get some relative info about our particular BFO organization.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Carbon27 on December 10, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
I think most will be using a PC except 3 or 4 of us. I'll get it for PC, and in a few years maybe on PS4 and/or Xbox 1.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam Leader / ply1 on December 10, 2014, 07:19:10 AM
idc swbf3 callofduthy copypast, it ruins starwars gamestyle.  :rant:
lol swbf3 lol
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on December 10, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
I think most will be using a PC except 3 or 4 of us. I'll get it for PC, and in a few years maybe on PS4 and/or Xbox 1.

I suppose I should expect as much too. If my question leaves different numbers, I'll take them; For now, I'll be going off what you said C27. Thanks!
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on December 10, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
I think most will be using a PC except 3 or 4 of us. I'll get it for PC, and in a few years maybe on PS4 and/or Xbox 1.

I know for a fact my current laptop won't run SWBF3 at all, though I do hope to get a job after I'm done high school and rake in some cash to rebuild my tower upstairs into a gaming beast.

In short, I hopefully will be playing PC. I don't intend to go console. Though if I end up with a free console or something, I might ditch the PC. :P If I can't get a job, then I'l be stuck waiting for years to play it.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Commander Awesome on December 10, 2014, 12:32:37 PM
Well I HOPE to get it on PC if I can upgrade my system, but I'll most likely get it on one of the consoles.
idc swbf3 callofduthy copypast, it ruins starwars gamestyle.  :rant:
lol swbf3 lol
We don't know anything about it yet. Don't jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on December 10, 2014, 12:51:06 PM
Well I HOPE to get it on PC if I can upgrade my system, but I'll most likely get it on one of the consoles.We don't know anything about it yet. Don't jump to conclusions.

I'll be honest, I couldn't read that conclusion.

But if it says what I think it does... Then no, we're not looking at a Call of Duty kind of Star Wars. Infact, this will probably be the most tactical Star Wars FPS to date.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Norwood on December 10, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Yeah, I will be playing PC, if I play at all, I'm planning to buy a new gaming laptop, once Windows 10 comes out. As far as my participation in BFO goes, I can tell you this much: BOB will not be joining BFO, or at least we have no plans to do so. We hope to start an independent branch in SWBF3.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on December 10, 2014, 09:15:13 PM
Oh yeah Windows 10 is coming around... I haven't seen it yet. Must be pretty interesting.

I mean, this isn't the community I want to get distanced from more (I like you guys, I love this community), so I'm thinking about going PC but I honestly doubt I will, for now.

MoviePilot.com just released an article about EASWBF. Some of it seems like stuff we probably already knew, but it does raise some fine questions. http://moviepilot.com/posts/2492257-star-wars-battlefront-are-these-characters-worlds-ships-returning?lt_source=external,manual
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 19, 2015, 07:26:53 PM
Alright, let's go ahead and start throwing out some ideas for how all the SWBF1 clans are going to do this united clans thing in EABF. I will probably be gone most of the summer so I won't be able to discuss it after I get shipped to basic training. We need to think of a name for this, find out what clans are in it, etc. We don't know what the clan tag system will be like, but if it's anything like other games it probably won't allow multiple tags. So we also need to decide if we want to form one giant clan, with autonomous "states" inside of it, and all use the same tag ingame.

So, go ahead and give your ideas.

On a personal note:
Whatever conclusion we come to, I am 90% sure I am going to bring back the old =AaTc= clan, so AaTc will be a part of the confederation. If I do bring it back, I plan to completely reinvent it. I may keep the name since old members may recognize it ingame and get in contact. So, if anyone happens to not have a current clan they will be a part of for EABF, I could sure use the help to start the good ol' clan back up.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on April 20, 2015, 06:31:10 AM
Sounds interesting, I'm sure Alpha will want to be involved in one form or another. Will be nice to see a lot of the old clans (hopefully) come back  :cheer:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 20, 2015, 07:27:35 AM
I'm a retired Alpha Clan veteran, however I might side with them again in the near future. On the other hand, I might make a clan for myself, possibly resurrect ol' TGM for old times sake.

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Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 20, 2015, 10:47:34 AM
Alright, I've been thinking about the whole thing during class instead of paying attention, also I merged the SWBFG clan topic with this one since they're basically the same thing.

So the way I see it, here are our options:

-All clans combine into one clan (BFO/SWBFG with one rule system, rank system, website)

-All clans combine into one clan with semiautonomous "states" inside of it. (If you can only wear one clan tag, wear BFO/SWBFG tags, if you can wear two, wear your clan tag and BFO/SWBFG tags, we have events and stuff for all members of clans in BFO/SWBFG, but everyone recruits for their clan specifically, has their own rules/ranks/website/etc - group tournaments/game nights/etc.)

-Or maybe a middle ground between the two with a single rule system, rank system, a website with separate forums for each clan where they can conduct their own business how they like, but must abide by the overall rules and ranks. Perhaps the leader of each clan could be a representative on a council to decide things for the entire group.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 20, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
Alright, I've been thinking about the whole thing during class instead of paying attention, also I merged the SWBFG clan topic with this one since they're basically the same thing.

So the way I see it, here are our options:

-All clans combine into one clan (BFO/SWBFG with one rule system, rank system, website)

-All clans combine into one clan with semiautonomous "states" inside of it. (If you can only wear one clan tag, wear BFO/SWBFG tags, if you can wear two, wear your clan tag and BFO/SWBFG tags, we have events and stuff for all members of clans in BFO/SWBFG, but everyone recruits for their clan specifically, has their own rules/ranks/website/etc - group tournaments/game nights/etc.)

-Or maybe a middle ground between the two with a single rule system, rank system, a website with separate forums for each clan where they can conduct their own business how they like, but must abide by the overall rules and ranks. Perhaps the leader of each clan could be a representative on a council to decide things for the entire group.

I will edit this later after my next class.
I kind of like the idea of a political system involving all clans having their own business/state, and yet are merged under the same banner (in a way, very much like countries). :P Basically, I kind of like your second option, as it lets the clans have their freedom, and simultaneously we all "stand as one" in a way.

This is either going to be a major community in the new game, or it will be a small sect of a larger territory in the new game.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Epifire on April 20, 2015, 12:29:33 PM
I kind of like the idea of a political system involving all clans having their own business/state, and yet are merged under the same banner (in a way, very much like countries). :P Basically, I kind of like your second option, as it lets the clans have their freedom, and simultaneously we all "stand as one" in a way.

This is either going to be a major community in the new game, or it will be a small sect of a larger territory in the new game.

The trick is we as a site need to reach out to the other remaining clans and communities remaining (I'm looking at you Game Toast). We take this concept to them and discuss this early so we can have a plan of action in the works before the game comes out. If we unite the old player base (or at least it's oldest communities) when members start coming back they'll arrive into this new clan syndicate we've built. I think done right, this could be pretty big.  :tu:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 20, 2015, 05:20:28 PM
We can certainly try, but Gametoast has their own clan, and based on their usual general demeanor, I doubt they would want to be involved.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 20, 2015, 08:39:16 PM
Have we considered talking to any of the other SWBFII sources? Such as SWBFCustom? Or SWGO?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 20, 2015, 09:42:03 PM
I have reached out to a PS2 SWBF community and SWBF-Custom so far. We still need the clans that have ties here to get involved, though.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 20, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Essentially im for a UN system where all of us have membeship to it and if we wanted to we can represent that entirely or both our clans and the group respectfully.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 20, 2015, 10:28:59 PM
Basically, but less official and political. It will be a mutualistic relationship between all the former clans. If we all band together, we will start out as the largest clan in the new battlefront. I'm sure recruiting would be sky high because of that, not to mention all the people who once played SWBF 1 or 2 and want to be a part of the old timers club. We would get to meet all our old friends who stayed on PC. All clans would have their own autonomy, just in a united group only for former SWBF clans.

I'm thinking about having our own website and servers as well and/or we could use SWBFGamers.

Also, Epifire inspired me with a name idea. He called it the Syndicate. The Originals Syndicate TOS, maybe? Battlefront Syndicate BFS? or just the Syndicate. Sounds neat. Just some ideas. Epifire and I will be working on sort of founding document to outline everything we think the syndicate is and could be. We will send to all the clans we know of. Please let me know if you want it sent to your clan to look over! I will also post it here.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 20, 2015, 11:08:38 PM
Basically, but less official and political. It will be a mutualistic relationship between all the former clans. If we all band together, we will start out as the largest clan in the new battlefront. I'm sure recruiting would be sky high because of that, not to mention all the people who once played SWBF 1 or 2 and want to be a part of the old timers club. We would get to meet all our old friends who stayed on PC. All clans would have their own autonomy, just in a united group only for former SWBF clans.

I'm thinking about having our own website and servers as well and/or we could use SWBFGamers.

Also, Epifire inspired me with a name idea. He called it the Syndicate. The Originals Syndicate TOS, maybe? Battlefront Syndicate BFS? or just the Syndicate. Sounds neat. Just some ideas. Epifire and I will be working on sort of founding document to outline everything we think the syndicate is and could be. We will send to all the clans we know of. Please let me know if you want it sent to your clan to look over! I will also post it here.


id like to speak to you about it in detail whenver you have time contact me :D
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 21, 2015, 01:01:21 AM

I'm thinking about having our own website and servers as well and/or we could use SWBFGamers.



There goes snake, always wanting to run off and make his own website...  ;)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Syyy on April 21, 2015, 07:55:08 AM
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It will be a mutualistic relationship between all the former clans. If we all band together, we will start out as the largest clan in the new battlefront. [...] All clans would have their own autonomy, just in a united group only for former SWBF clans.

I really like this idea, I doubt my friends from BW would want to join another clan because we're very much attached to our current independance and personnal forum. But having a community reuniting old SWBF players without requiring membership and dedication to another clan is something I'm interested in.

The Syndicate is a great name on its own. I'm not sure about parting ways with SWBFGamers.com. Led has done so much for the community I don't think it would be a great idea to abandon his forums. Maybe you ( Led ) could create a new board, just as you did for YAK ?

The only downside is that the Syndicate would not have a personnal interface / forum. Maybe we could have a basic html page with all the needed informations, and it would redirect to the forums ?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 21, 2015, 11:23:53 AM

id like to speak to you about it in detail whenver you have time contact me :D

Alright, I will download xfire and get on tonight after class.

There goes snake, always wanting to run off and make his own website...  ;)

No, I hate making websites. :P We were actually talking about getting a good AaTc website last night and for some reason it seemed like a good idea to do one for the Syndicate as well. I'd definitely rather use SWBFGamers.

I really like this idea, I doubt my friends from BW would want to join another clan because we're very much attached to our current independance and personnal forum. But having a community reuniting old SWBF players without requiring membership and dedication to another clan is something I'm interested in.

The Syndicate is a great name on its own. I'm not sure about parting ways with SWBFGamers.com. Led has done so much for the community I don't think it would be a great idea to abandon his forums. Maybe you ( Led ) could create a new board, just as you did for YAK ?

The only downside is that the Syndicate would not have a personnal interface / forum. Maybe we could have a basic html page with all the needed informations, and it would redirect to the forums ?

Well, you should do your best to convince them! That's basically what it would be, just a community of old SWBF players playing with the same tags on. Everyone would have their own rules, ranks, recruitment, etc. but we could all come together and form tournaments and game nights and other typical clan stuff only for the clans involved.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Epifire on April 21, 2015, 11:52:51 AM
I really like this idea, I doubt my friends from BW would want to join another clan because we're very much attached to our current independance and personnal forum. But having a community reuniting old SWBF players without requiring membership and dedication to another clan is something I'm interested in.

The Syndicate is a great name on its own. I'm not sure about parting ways with SWBFGamers.com. Led has done so much for the community I don't think it would be a great idea to abandon his forums. Maybe you ( Led ) could create a new board, just as you did for YAK ?

The only downside is that the Syndicate would not have a personnal interface / forum. Maybe we could have a basic html page with all the needed informations, and it would redirect to the forums ?

I think the Syndicate should more less be an area to facilitate clan interaction. There should be an option to setup a clan's own section in the site, or have a redirect like you said. This way you get this central kind of hub, which really could be based out of anything. It would make sense to have it as it's own web domain just to keep it simpler and more direct. My reasons for not wanting it based directly out of our community is so that it represents the clans as a whole (not just us).
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 21, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
Indeed, and Led already has shown there is the possibility to make subdomains within the SWBFGamers domain. Perhaps The Syndicate could be apart of a subdomain of this site (e.g., syndicate.swbfgamers.com).

Or we could do as you said, have a main page redirect to here.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 21, 2015, 01:51:37 PM
Yes, I have "unlimited" subdomains, and already have

games.swbfgamers.com
pla.swbfgamers.com

active at the moment.

I am not exactly what the best way to organize more subdomains would be, but there are a lot of possibilities.  My preference would be to not have a whole bunch of independent forums, but rather to provide a link back to this site where we have private forums boards for clans now, should someone want to use them.  (It makes it easier to back up the site and database that way.)

I could provide a basic portal like GM mentioned for whatever groups wanted one as a subdomain with the stipulation that they abide by our community standards.

I can also foresee that some clans would want to have their own completely private and independent space anyway, although I can say that I have never taken even a peek into any private clan forum (other than PLA) on this website.

Maybe the best option for now would be to create a subdomain and let someone interested in designing it have control of the subdomain and see what can be done.

Fortunately, we have been a fairly stable site and have not really had any issues, so let's hope it continues :)


My like Syyy has already said about BW, as a clan member of PLA (which I hope to continue into the new SWBF) that I would not want to give up my clan tags for PLA or our independence, but it would be nice to have a gathering place for the old SWBF players and new ones to "mingle" and organize.





Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Syyy on April 21, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
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a community of old SWBF players playing with the same tags on. Everyone would have their own rules, ranks, recruitment, etc. but we could all come together and form tournaments and game nights and other typical clan stuff only for the clans involved.

Yes I agree completely, but as Led said, some players feel involved in their previous clan and would like to preserve its legacy. It would be "a gathering place for the old SWBF players and new ones to "mingle" and organize" ( Led's words ) without needing to use a specific tag. As a player, I would be Syrion, member of the BW clan, which is a part of the Syndicate community, a union of multiple clans striving to play together, organize events and represent SWBFGamers.com as a whole. We already have our personnal forum, but as I've done for past events, I am the link between SWBF1 events and their ( BW members ) participation. I think such group is important to strenghen the link between players and build/grow our community.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 21, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
Excellently put. Alright, I have made an outline for it.

-We will have a Syndicate subdomain here
-Clans are to wear their original tags and operate as usual, unless they can wear 2 tags(depending on how EABF's clan support is set up), in which case they will also wear Syndicate tags (tags will be decided later)
-There will be community-wide events and tournaments (clan and individual)
-Those events will be created by anyone in the Syndicate, and proposed to a representative of every clan for approval
-Only former SWBF1 or 2 clans are allowed to join
-Amendments must be approved by 2/3 of the clan representatives
-Clans can have their own rules, however they must abide by the SWBFGamers community standards as well (at least on the Syndicate or SWBFGamers websites)

How does that sound?
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I decided to write an official founding document(it's just one page), it is attached for proofing. I had to change it to Word 2003 to upload it for some reason.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 21, 2015, 09:56:22 PM
I can smell the clan politics and clan democracy already... :)

Sounds fair and well, I agree with all terms. Just curious, how would matters (e.g., a clan member who disobeys the SWBFGamers tenets, but follows the clan's tenets) be handled? It would be interesting to see how such matters would be decided upon.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 21, 2015, 10:06:44 PM
Good point, I haven't thought of that. In general, if one member does something wrong, we will go with the 3 strike system. After the third strike, their leadership will be notified, and they can handle it how they want. If it continues after that, one more warning will be given to the leadership, then after that they'll have to boot the person. If the entire clan goes against the tenets after 3 strikes they'll be booted from the Syndicate. The rules aren't difficult to follow, and they only have to be followed under certain conditions (for individuals), so there's no reason they can't cooperate. The tenets of the Syndicate include the SWBFGamers rules when using either websites or official events, so it will count as violating one of the Syndicate tenets.

I will add the punishments to the document later.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 21, 2015, 10:11:40 PM
In my opinion, players should do whatever they want to do, but if they post on SWBFgamers or a subdomain with public access, it needs to stay "clean".  You can do whatever you want in  SWBFgamers private clan forums as long as it doesn't break any laws or put the site at risk :)

Time will tell if there is any interest in the "super-clan" concept.  I am willing to provide the access to snake or anyone else that wants to try.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Epifire on April 21, 2015, 10:40:47 PM
In my opinion, players should do whatever they want to do, but if they post on SWBFgamers or a subdomain with public access, it needs to stay "clean".  You can do whatever you want in  SWBFgamers private clan forums as long as it doesn't break any laws or put the site at risk :)

Time will tell if there is any interest in the "super-clan" concept.  I am willing to provide the access to snake or anyone else that wants to try.

This was my point on this too. The only way people will agree to this system if they have freedom over their own clans. The idea is unifying the communication/organizational structure so that everyone has a common ground to meet on. I wanted to open this up to any clans (new or old). Because really this shouldn't even have to limit to any one group as long as they abide by the Syndicate's site rules as a whole. If it gets any traction it will also encourage fair play, as any clans that "play dirty" would basically be black listed by all the other clans.

Why does this idea remind me of the EU?  :XD:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 22, 2015, 09:10:35 AM
This was my point on this too. The only way people will agree to this system if they have freedom over their own clans. The idea is unifying the communication/organizational structure so that everyone has a common ground to meet on. I wanted to open this up to any clans (new or old). Because really this shouldn't even have to limit to any one group as long as they abide by the Syndicate's site rules as a whole. If it gets any traction it will also encourage fair play, as any clans that "play dirty" would basically be black listed by all the other clans.

Why does this idea remind me of the EU?  :XD:
I think a unity between new and old would actually work far better. In a way, the abundance of such a super clan would cause newcomers to want to join the old ones, while simultaneously, the new clans may want some help in building up their clans, so they would side with us. In a way I guess, the superclan would be a sort of "popularity tag" for clans that are in union with it.

We have to remember though, this game's been in waiting for over a decade. It will have such a massive community at launch, we'll need to consider how a government of around 60+ clan leaders is going to operate effectively. It could get muddy real fast if we have such a large number of united clans (unless we plan to turn this super clan into a "Battlefrontain" United Nations :P).
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 22, 2015, 09:54:05 AM
I think we should keep it at SWBF1&2 clans only for now, then if other clans want to join in when the game comes out, we can go about amending it.

So here's the bottom line we've got so far,

Clans are totally independent, the only difference is they are part of a group that, if everyone participates, will make their recruiting skyrocket, provide events and tournaments, and basically just make clans in the Syndicate look awesome.
In return, clans participate in as many events and discussions as they can, they obey the few simple rules, and wear Syndicate tags if the game allows for 2 separate tags.

It seems like a great deal to me. It's like the early days of the United States, all the colonies banded together to become exponentially stronger, yet held their independence.

If the clan membership gets really high, maybe we can separate clans into even groups and have them vote on one representative for that group.

Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on April 22, 2015, 10:38:44 AM
Hmm, dividing the whole clan community into groups might turn people's heads though. Yes there would be a representative voted for by people of said group, but the difficulty then lies in how the enire hierarchy works efficiently. Perhaps a council for said groups would be easier to manage, or at least more accountable than one man in charge. Kind of like how the Republic had systems with representatives and other councilmen alongside them, to help in debating about the galaxy's laws and such.

It's funny the more I think of this, I never cared for American politics, and yet here I am as a Canadian talking about politics like an American. :P
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 22, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
That's s good idea, but I think we will just try to keep it at one representative each for now, I doubt there will be so many clans involved that it would be a problem.

Yeah, when talking about freedom and independence while also united, one can't help but sound american.  :P

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Attached is the revised document
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 24, 2015, 09:50:45 AM
Bump and Update

I have been talking with a lot of PS2 players about the Syndicate idea, and for some reason, though I may try to explain, they think that clans are being dumped into one giant clan. Let me say again, all clans have their own sovereignty. The Syndicate is mutualistic, meaning all clans involved gain from it. There's like 3 stipulations and they're all amazingly easy to follow. Clans don't have to change anything at all. They just get exclusive tournaments and events, and will gain in recruitment and general fun. Also membership retention will be way better if all the clans participate in Syndicate events. It's a win-win. No one is in control, it's just a clan club.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: (C4)Ldr.PhantomBunny on April 24, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
I really like the idea.. When (C4) gets up and running, definitely count us in.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 24, 2015, 12:46:17 PM
Well, I brought the idea to Gamtoast. I couldn't use the PM feature so I wasn't able to ask if it was alright to post, so instead I said if they didn't want the links they could remove them and I would copy and paste the important info there. Instead they just deleted the whole thread. That's why I didn't reach out to them before.

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Apparently the post was moved to a quarantine board but there's no reason for it to be put back. I think some PS2 clans may join but it looks like none of the SWBF2-only clans will join. That's alright, though, the original idea was for SWBF1 only. The problem was that some SWBF1 clans moved to SWBF2 and it would be unfair not to include the other SWBF2 clans.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: [SWBFspy][Alpha]Drunken_Master on April 24, 2015, 03:34:12 PM
There were a lot of ideas presented in this thread but I think I get the direction this is going now.

Is the name set in stone or might there be a vote?  I also liked the BFO idea.  Or the BF Originals Syndicate ~BFOS~?  Or the Epic Battlefront Originals of History Syndicate [EBFOHS]?  Or the Mature Organization of Frontian Originals Syndicate <MOFOS>?

Syndicate itself is not bad, really just wondering if it's dried yet.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 24, 2015, 04:05:14 PM
<MOFOS>?

I have a feeling that was on purpose.. good one  :P

The name could still be changed, yes. I like the BFOS or just Syndicate names the most. I think if we get enough clans involved, we will just vote on a name. I guess now we will make a list of the clans that are willing to join to see if anyone is convinced yet. It may just be one of those things that look good on paper, but don't work in reality. Some people just don't understand they can join a group without losing independence.

Anywho, here's our list of clans on interest level. Please post what level your clan is at. I know of many clans who have shown interest in the idea, but I'll let you all post your official status.

Joining
WUSI
[FC]
=AaTc=
BW
[C4]
Alpha

Interested
{TcF}
(BOB)
{212}
{WgT}


Uninterested
~PFA~
UEF
{PLA}
(GGR)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: hellish hellbird on April 25, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
WUSI is interested in joining the syndicate. We would encourage other allies of ours to also join because itll strengthen ourselves at the start of the new swbf game
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Syyy on April 25, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
Alright you can count the Black Warriors as interested. I'm pretty sure we will be joining the Syndicate, but I prefer waiting for all of my member's approbation.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 25, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
Alright, we now have 3 clans in, 3 interested, and 2 uninterested. It's looking good! The only other active clans I've seen around that i can think of are BOB, 212, PLA, and Alpha.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on April 26, 2015, 12:18:05 AM
Alpha is interested, we will probably vote on it in the near future. Also I think others may be more interested once the new battlefront is out.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Verranicus on April 26, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Hey skirata,

I think the idea is like a SWBFgamers "fun night".  For something like that, I don't think that anyone needs to be held to exclusivity.

We already have an ongoing tournament.  After that (maybe during) we can set up a regular mod map night.   As long as we host it by Direct Connection, then we can also involve the Mac players that are still around.  They are good peeps :)

This is a grand idea. A casual get together weekly would rock, but I'd be in for a clan.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Norwood on April 26, 2015, 03:55:14 PM
Officially, BOB is taking up a wait and see approach to this, however; we are interested in the idea. The BOBclan will have to do some more internal discussion before we come to a final decision.

Personally, I love the idea, and will be encouraging BOB to join. (I think Phantom feels the same way.)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Shazam on April 26, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
I haven't had time to read through all of the posts, but I am very interested in Syndicate.

This may have already been answered, but what will those who are clanless do?  Can clanless Battlefront 1 members still be a part of this?  If so, how will they be represented in the "council"?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Black Water on April 26, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
We have many players that will be coming back from inactivity, including Lando, for SWBF3. I highly doubt we will be joining this though. I am from the 212th clan by the way, just in case I've been forgotten. I will go over it with my clan mates though.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Epifire on April 26, 2015, 04:22:12 PM
I haven't had time to read through all of the posts, but I am very interested in Syndicate.

This may have already been answered, but what will those who are clanless do?  Can clanless Battlefront 1 members still be a part of this?  If so, how will they be represented in the "council"?

I think there could probably be a freelancers/PUG (pick up games) group. Honestly I don't understand why there couldn't be, since it's basically supposed to be a grand communications hub.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 26, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
Alright, I've added Alpha, 212, and BOB to the list. As for those without a clan, me and Birdo were discussing having a Syndicate clan. Theoretically it would be for those without clans, or for clans who have less than 4 active members. This keeps everyone and their mother from making their own clan to skew votes. All of those in the Syndicate clan will have a single council member, regardless if there's a hundred 3 man clans in the Syndicate clan. I haven't added it to the tenets and standard yet, but it would basically be a loose clan so that the clanless can be involved. Also, since all clans in the Syndicate can share members in battles, the Syndicate clan's (we should probably name it for less confusion) members can fight for other clans in battles if they want to. Another option is non clanners can always join a clan in the Syndicate to strengthen the clans involved.

Gold Man is working on some sort of Syndicate home site, and we will also just have a forum board here. That will be the clans main hub, along with the Syndicate's main hub.

This is a new concept so give any thoughts before it is set in stone.

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Unnamed Syndicate Clan
-Rank hierarchy based on seniority for simplicity
-Led by ?
-Wears Syndicate tags ingame
-Has one council member elected by a majority vote from the clan members
-Participates in events as their own clan
-Uses Syndicate website as home website

Just some notes I could think of. Also, this will be the only clan allowed in the Syndicate to have less than 4 members. However, if they do dip below 4, the clan should lose it's vote until it rises back above 4.

Also, I had an idea for the rank hierarchy. Each member gets a number in the order they join. The leader gets 1, the next gets 2, and on and on. Then if a member goes inactive for some amount of time, they forfeit that number and everyone moves up. Keeps it easy and simple so we don't have to invent an entire clan, which kind of defeats the point of the looseness for those not in a clan.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Led on April 26, 2015, 06:53:11 PM
OK, if I have done it correctly, snake is the moderator of The Syndicate membergroup and private board.
Snake, this is a requestable membergroup, and you can see requests by the Moderation tab.

Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 26, 2015, 07:11:23 PM
Thank you very much, Led. You're a gracious host as always. Alright, I'll start adding members of confirmed clans in the Syndicate. Clan leaders, please send me a list of members of your clan registered on SWBFGamers so I can add them to the Syndicate group.

I can't see the actual category for it in the forum but I can add members.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 30, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
You can count me in as interested! :tu:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 30, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
To join the clanless clan? Sounds good! Right now we are waiting to hear word on other clans joining, then I will make one final draft of the standards and tenets and then we will get the website going. I still can't see a category for Syndicate stuff on the forums, though.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: (C4)Ldr.PhantomBunny on April 30, 2015, 02:33:50 PM
Update on (C4): We will be joining as soon as we have, ya know, an actual member xD
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Syyy on April 30, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
You can add BW to the joining list !
( by the way, we do not have a specific tag, but BW without special characters is fine )
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 30, 2015, 02:50:14 PM
Update on (C4): We will be joining as soon as we have, ya know, an actual member xD

Yeah, C4 will be in the clanless clan until the membership grows above 4.

You can add BW to the joining list !
( by the way, we do not have a specific tag, but BW without special characters is fine )

Alright, BW has been added!
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Jamman on April 30, 2015, 03:39:28 PM
Also, since all clans in the Syndicate can share members in battles, the Syndicate clan's (we should probably name it for less confusion) members can fight for other clans in battles if they want to.

Does this mean when a clan in the Syndicate plays a match against a clan not in the Syndicate, that the clan in the Syndicate can use members from all clans in the Syndicate? Or was this just talking about fun tournaments for clans only in the Syndicate. I have always disliked multiclanning very much.

Also, councils will have two sides and one side will monopolize the majority of votes in their favor, it always happens. When big and differing personalities sit at the same table, arguments will happen and there are for sure many big and differing personalities in the old swbf clans.

Imo the first couple years of the new swbf should be squad/player skill because that's when the game will be at its most competitive. I do not think the Syndicate is going for a skill type thing. I see it more as PLA. (having a good time with friends, and less about challenging other squads.)

I am not trying to trash the whole idea, I just wanted to get my concerns out, maybe someone can change them.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on April 30, 2015, 04:48:14 PM

Does this mean when a clan in the Syndicate plays a match against a clan not in the Syndicate, that the clan in the Syndicate can use members from all clans in the Syndicate? Or was this just talking about fun tournaments for clans only in the Syndicate. I have always disliked multiclanning very much.

Also, councils will have two sides and one side will monopolize the majority of votes in their favor, it always happens. When big and differing personalities sit at the same table, arguments will happen and there are for sure many big and differing personalities in the old swbf clans.

Imo the first couple years of the new swbf should be squad/player skill because that's when the game will be at its most competitive. I do not think the Syndicate is going for a skill type thing. I see it more as PLA. (having a good time with friends, and less about challenging other squads.)

I am not trying to trash the whole idea, I just wanted to get my concerns out, maybe someone can change them.

It's sort of like for the GGW, if one clan doesn't have enough members for a battle, members of other clans inside the Syndicate can play in their stead, if they want to of course. As for the skill based concerns, I definitely agree. There will be lots of people on these games and it will be very competitive. But, we will be iron on iron sharpening eachother in competitive tournaments. Syndicate clans can have wars with non-Syndicate clans, and we could join other clan tournaments as well. The Syndicate can be for competition and fun, we will have both sides to the same coin.

You bring up a good point with the council, however, the council is only the central connection to each clan. The only things they vote on are maybe new clans joining, approving game nights and tourneys, and things like that. The group as a whole does not have power over any clan, so there can't be a power grab since there's not really any power to grab. It just ensures that everyone participates.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: (MRG)KnMndl.Wolf{98th}{GGR} on May 05, 2015, 09:31:53 PM
GGR is at the moment on a halt on this idea too, we've been revamping ourselves for the new game for a few months now so we might stay independent. I for one being the longest mofo in this clan like to stay with tradition of how MES and old GGR was so my vote is a no for now, unless someone can change my mind on it. It will be discussed with the other Mandalores however  :cheers:
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on May 10, 2015, 01:49:57 PM
Alright, let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {WgT}LdR.$cOuT on May 10, 2015, 04:45:52 PM
Okay, so excuse me for not wanting to read but the first and the last page of this forum, but from what I understand so far is that this is more like a league than clan. This means that the clans make individual decisions, and the council only decides on tournaments and things like that.. right? And I will be making the decision to whether {WgT} should be in Syndicate later.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on May 16, 2015, 01:59:19 PM
Yes, that is correct. And anyone from the SWBF community that is clanless can be heard by being a part of the clanless clan. A super unstructured clan to give them a collective voice.

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Also, I think we will just use a special category here for Syndicate discussions once we get started in the new game. So everyone involved should request to be in the member group and I will approve you.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on May 16, 2015, 05:38:26 PM
I'd like to request then! :P

I'll be glad to support our Clan/Syndicate on the PS4 side, as that's probably the most likely platform I'll be playing on. Put me in the group, please!
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: (C4)Ldr.PhantomBunny on May 16, 2015, 10:38:06 PM
Whelp, here's my request!
Title: Re: EASWBF Syndicate
Post by: Davenport on September 02, 2015, 10:19:20 AM
Star Wars Battlefront (EA/DICE) is just around the corner!
Has anyone else noticed how a lot of the big name clans are moving in to begin recruiting for the new game?
It's good that we are a growing community because of the new game, but do you know what this means for our smaller clans?

Surely we're all aware that most of the active clans dedicated to SWBF are decently small; and the active numbers within those clans even smaller. This probably means that a lot of new players aren't going to want to join a tiny, actively unstable clan moving into the new Battlefront. Players looking for clans are likely going to join what's popular, promising, and, of course, Big.
Our smaller clans will end up losing out to the new game, and unless our clans have their own plans for expansion, activity improvement, and membership growth...

I would like to encourage more clans and players in this community to join The Syndicate. Through the Syndicate, we can grow together in the new game as a Big, strong, active clan and still be able to work as our original clans outside of the new SWBF.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on September 04, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
Thank you, chameleon. I hope every clan sees that message before the release. A strong Syndicate means we are all stronger. A lot of people are busy right now with school and work but we will pick up on the Syndicate stuff closer to the release. Any help spreading the message is definitely welcomed.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Roxas on October 01, 2015, 04:56:46 PM
Psst, if anyone has a machine capable of running the EABF demo it'd be cool if the Syndicate was mentioned. Just saiyan.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on October 12, 2015, 06:14:54 PM
Alright folks, EABF is getting closer so it's time for the Syndicate roster to be finalized. I need to know what clans are in or out. I posted on a few clans guestbooks so if your clan is on the Interested or Uninterested list and your clan has decided to join please let me know.

I also need to know if anyone would like to join the Syndicate clan for the clanless. I believe Gold Man was going to lead the clanless clan but I'm not sure if that is confirmed or not.

Remember, this is not taking away any clan rights. It's just a way for us to band together in the new game so that we can be stronger. Our motto is Nos firmiores simul.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: [SWBFspy][Alpha]Drunken_Master on October 12, 2015, 07:53:33 PM
The beta version is limiting us to very few non-alpha numeric characters and not very long names. For instance, I think I am AlphaCptDrunken and that's about all I can fit in my name.  And I also have to change it on origin instead of in the game.  It feels like they are discouraging clans to me.  Ideas?
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on October 12, 2015, 08:27:50 PM
The beta version is limiting us to very few non-alpha numeric characters and not very long names. For instance, I think I am AlphaCptDrunken and that's about all I can fit in my name.  And I also have to change it on origin instead of in the game.  It feels like they are discouraging clans to me.  Ideas?

Tbh I haven't worried about clan tags so far, maybe they will enable longer names with the full version.

Alright folks, EABF is getting closer so it's time for the Syndicate roster to be finalized. I need to know what clans are in or out. I posted on a few clans guestbooks so if your clan is on the Interested or Uninterested list and your clan has decided to join please let me know.

I also need to know if anyone would like to join the Syndicate clan for the clanless. I believe Gold Man was going to lead the clanless clan but I'm not sure if that is confirmed or not.

Remember, this is not taking away any clan rights. It's just a way for us to band together in the new game so that we can be stronger. Our motto is Nos firmiores simul.

At this stage Alpha will be joining it, will see how it turns out.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on October 12, 2015, 08:46:25 PM
The beta version is limiting us to very few non-alpha numeric characters and not very long names. For instance, I think I am AlphaCptDrunken and that's about all I can fit in my name.  And I also have to change it on origin instead of in the game.  It feels like they are discouraging clans to me.  Ideas?

Yeah, the lack of clan support is a notable problem but, like Kiwi says, they may add it in the final version with enough outcry. Even so, we can still do clan stuff without it, it'll just be more difficult.

Tbh I haven't worried about clan tags so far, maybe they will enable longer names with the full version.

At this stage Alpha will be joining it, will see how it turns out.

Alright, that's good to hear. I'll add Alpha to the list.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Norwood on October 12, 2015, 09:05:58 PM
How many active members does it take for a clan to join?

Edit: Snake Answered my question on Steam. It is four.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Gold Man on October 13, 2015, 02:52:52 PM
Initially I was planning to lead the clanless, however I think the odds of me getting a copy of the game for this are looking pretty bleak (still don't have enough funds for a new rig, let alone the game).

If you don't hear me saying I got a new rig 1 week before the launch, then you may want to consider looking for another leader for that division (unless I am still able to lead without a copy :P).

I'm also fairly certain I left the website for The Syndicate in the hands of you and Epifire, Snake. If you guys want to get rolling on it be my guest.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on October 13, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
Initially I was planning to lead the clanless, however I think the odds of me getting a copy of the game for this are looking pretty bleak (still don't have enough funds for a new rig, let alone the game).

If you don't hear me saying I got a new rig 1 week before the launch, then you may want to consider looking for another leader for that division (unless I am still able to lead without a copy :P).

I'm also fairly certain I left the website for The Syndicate in the hands of you and Epifire, Snake. If you guys want to get rolling on it be my guest.

That's fine. A leader for the clan isn't all that necessary. The leader doesn't get to vote for the clan in the council. Whoever joins the clanless clan first will be the leader, since the rank structure will be based numerically on seniority.

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I created a steam group for The Syndicate. It is open to the public. http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791439987382

Chameleon already made one but it isn't open to the public so I just got bored and made a new one.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Norwood on October 13, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
I want to make it clear that I would like to join the Syndicate, with or without a clan. I still don't know if the BOBclan will be able to join. Thus I would like to make this my official declaration of my joining. Is there any way I can help get this off the ground?

Edit: I joined your group! Also I see your still using my placeholder picture, for the website. :)
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Snake on February 27, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
Well, I appreciate everyone who put forward their support for this interesting project. It was a little ambitious but I think in a proper game the Syndicate would have been extremely successful. I think the flop of EABF (at least in the department of having any clan/community support) made having the Syndicate a little too impractical. It's a real shame we didn't get to see it in action. I wish there was a SWBF game worth moving to but it looks like we'll never be getting that. Good luck to all the clans who participated! I hope you all continue to grow in EABF or other games. I hope to continue to see your usernames around and catch up on Steam or Origin. See you guys around.
Title: Re: SWBF1 Clan Confederation In EA's SWBF
Post by: Davenport on April 06, 2016, 05:07:36 PM
Well, this stinks. I was quite excited that I may run into all of you gentlemen in the new game. Although, I don't have it... Yet. haha

Btw, this is my "Hello Again" post, don't know if I'll be around a lot but it is nice seeing all of you again.