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Title: ICW5
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on May 24, 2015, 06:30:53 PM
Greetings, players of SWBF!

I have decided to host the fifth Intergalactic Clan War with Joseph's permission. Due to his limited availability he will not be able to host it this year and has given me permission to run it instead. I have been asking around the community and it seems there is a lot of interest for a ICW5 so I am confidant this will pan out. I have planned it to start July 10th 2015, this will give clans a lot of time to rally members. All the details about ICW5 will be listed below.

Important news/changes are listed in red.

{YAK}'s team will be represented by Shazam as before. You can join {YAK} by clicking here! (http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=9189.msg96694;topicseen#new)

Administration:

Lead Admins:
1. BoMbeR
2. Dark Phantom

Admins:
1. Kelle
2. Kiwi
3. Phobos
4. Shazam
5. Oven/Joseph


Admins wanted


ICW5 week 1 date:

Matches will need to be posted on July 5th or 6th. The first set of matches will start on July 10th 2015.

General format:

1. Once clans are finalized, a tournament map will be published. It will look something like this. Each clan will start off with 3 randomly assigned planets. After Week 1, planet ownership is based on battle outcomes from the previous week.

2. There will be 6 weeks. The winner is the clan with the most planets at the end of Week 6. The nature of a tiebreaker will be determined if needed.

Match rules:

We are changing the previous rules about teams out numbering.

1. Neither team (Attackers or Defenders) can be outnumbered by more then 2. The clan:merc ratio will stay the same and can be at most 2:1. Rounding favors mercs. So 6:3 and 7:4 are both acceptable.

2. Matches must start within 10 minutes of the announced start time. If a clan is responsible for a delay greater than 10 minutes, they forfeit the match.

3. A player may spectate a battle, but only if one of the participating clans agrees to it (and if it wouldn't cause lag due to the amount of players in the server). They will wear a [Spec] tag, and hide out of the way during the battle, using freecam to watch.

4. Killing admins or spectators is prohibited.

5. The following generic rules apply:

A. SPECIAL UNIT RULES TBA. Will be either no specials, or fairside specials, possibly depending on map.
B. Vehicles are permitted when available.
C. Capturing CPs is permitted in all situations.
D. Pre-mines are not permitted in any situation, and laying pre-mines amounts to a penalty (admin discretion).
E. Spawn mines are permitted.
F. Teamkill is always off.
G. All servers shall be /noaim.
H. Be polite in yellow chat -- no swearing or insulting.
I. No false starts. (This means: stay very close to green CPs until the countdown ends. Yes, we all have freecam.)
J. Only an admin may countdown a battle.
K. No impersonating other clan members.
L. All players must wear tags ingame. (including Mercenaries)
M. No playing for or spying on the opposing clan's side. Join your clan's side ASAP upon entering the server.
N. Radar Policy: don't ask, don't tell.

6. Violation of these rules will result in an official warning by an in-game admin; penalties will ensue at the admin's discretion.

7. Calling out another clan for starting early, or having too many members, is completely fine, but all other matters should be left in the admin's hands.

8. Admins will record the results of a game using one or more of the following methods: freecam, video, xfire screenshots. An Admin will post the screenshot of the final screen on the forums soon after a battle is finished.

9. At all times Admins have the right to ask everyone except designated players in the server to stop yellow-chatting.

Clan lists and mercenaries:

1. Each clan is required to maintain a clan list throughout the tournament. Lists can be added to at any time, but never subtracted from (unless no battles have taken place since the change). The lists will be public; submit any changes to me and/or Phantom. The members of the list don't have to "be in" your clan officially, but they cannot appear on any other clan list at any time in the tournament.

2. So to clarify, if your clan has a friend who wants to play exclusively for you, they should probably be put on the clan list. Players who don't want to commit to playing for a specific clan should not be on a list.

3. Ingame, players must use a name identical to the one on the list. Mercenaries must wear a tag similar to: (Clan)(Merc)Name.

4. Namefaking is absolutely prohibited and, if confirmed, results in forfeit. Admins will check IPs in situations of doubt.

Attacks:

1. Each week I'll make a thread on Sunday or Monday where clans will make post attacks, negotiate times, post screenshots, etc. Battles should by default be scheduled for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. However, if both clans agree, and an admin can commit to coming, then it's OK to schedule earlier in the week. Attacks absolutely must be posted by Wednesday at midnight EST.

2. Of course, clans may only attack planets which are connected by a line (in the tournament map) to a planet they currently control.

3. Format your attacks thusly:

Attacking clan:
Defending clan:
Date:
Time (EST):
Attacker era/side:
Server location:

4. In the beginning, each clan may make 2 attacks per week. Because the tournament will have a shorter week-wise duration than previously, we may raise the limit to 3 if the first week(s) go well, if the community consents, and if we have enough admin support.

5. If a clan forfeits, their planets become native held, and attackers will face a team of "native". Anyone may show up as a native. However in this case the natives may be outnumbered by attackers. But there is a limit of 2 members per clan on the native side.

6. Clans can make planet announcements i.e. "call dibs" before officially listing times, as before.

7.  If you are attacking a clan that is primarily EU players you can not schedule a attack after 10 PM Berlin. (4PM EST) However the EU clan can attack at what ever time they want.

Finalizing Clans:

1. Clans will be Finalized June 30th 2015.

What to do now:

1. ICW5 is still a long ways away this gives everyone time to prepare and gather troops! Clans will need to post in this topic before June 30th.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 01:21:36 AM
Do u expect to play while being lead admin ? (Just wondering)

I didnt get an answer from Phobos, but this is what i think of some of the rules and info:

Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on May 24, 2015, 06:30:53 PM

A. SPECIAL UNIT RULES TBA. Will be either no specials, or fairside specials, possibly depending on map.

I just dont understand it... If u dont want DT, u should make it even by making it "Fairsides", adding reb pilot to the DT possition.


B. Vehicles are permitted when available.
This is gonna be really funny with all the camp and everything :')


M. No playing for or spying on the opposing clan's side. Join your clan's side ASAP upon entering the server.
Eh dude, SWBF1 has no "following-mate screen when swapping team xD so i dont know how someone could spy the opposite side. Besides, if what u mean by spying is knowing where they are, radar is more efficient...

Clan lists and mercenaries:

Also, How many clan/team admins ?

1. Each clan is required to maintain a clan list throughout the tournament. Lists can be added to at any time, but never subtracted from (unless no battles have taken place since the change). The lists will be public; submit any changes to me and/or Phantom. The members of the list don't have to "be in" your clan officially, but they cannot appear on any other clan list at any time in the tournament.

--> In case we join, FC Will use its own website to update it anytime instead of PMing people. U can take a pic of it before we start if u want, we're not gonna waste our time editing while playing the match lol

3. Ingame, players must use a name identical to the one on the list. Mercenaries must wear a tag similar to: (Clan)(Merc)Name.

I think the order should be up to the players as long as they have the merc word in the name...

3. Format your attacks thusly:

Attacking clan:
Defending clan:
Date:
Time (EST):
Attacker era/side:
Server location:

This is kinda useless since nobody will ask to play in an european server when most of the community of BF1 is based of USA players...

Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Norwood on May 25, 2015, 07:39:10 AM
Anyder, if your clan is going to play in the ICW you will have to follow all of the rules including name tags and the proper maintenance and posting of clan member lists.

By spying they (the admins) are referring to listening in on another clans chat, you can learn a lot by seeing what the other clan is saying.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: Norwood on May 25, 2015, 07:39:10 AM
Anyder, if your clan is going to play in the ICW you will have to follow all of the rules including name tags and the proper maintenance and posting of clan member lists.

By spying they (the admins) are referring to listening in on another clans chat, you can learn a lot by seeing what the other clan is saying.
We're gonna join so that we have some fun winning again xd
Im gonna follow all rules like i did in all the icws i participated, please make sure u do follow them, cause u might have just played 1 so u dont need to teach me anything ;)

So far if u want a team, i'll post here the members from FC. I'll go update this post whenever i know of more players playing for us
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on May 25, 2015, 09:24:36 AM
"Vehicles may be used when available" does not mean vehicles will always be available, they may be modded out on certain (most?) maps like last time. Obviously no one wants any battles to be tank camp wars.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: BOB.LION on May 25, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
so excited. Let the hype begin! Thanks for getting this up and running! i will probably be unable to play most weeks but will have to see <3
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: (MRG)KnMndl.Wolf{98th}{GGR} on May 25, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
Do you have to sign up again if you were a yak already last season? I do not know if GGR will be able to participate so we might all just join the yak again
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on May 25, 2015, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 01:21:36 AM
Do u expect to play while being lead admin ? (Just wondering)

I didnt get an answer from Phobos, but this is what i think of some of the rules and info:

Yes I do intend to play.

Quote from: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 01:21:36 AMI just dont understand it... If u dont want DT, u should make it even by making it "Fairsides", adding reb pilot to the DT possition.

It will probably be Dark Trooper vs Dark Trooper or Wookie vs Wookie.

Quote from: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 01:21:36 AMThis is gonna be really funny with all the camp and everything :')

More then likely vehicles will be turned off on 90% of the maps. There might be 1-2 maps with them, most likely only one.

Quote from: Anyder on May 25, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
We're gonna join so that we have some fun winning again xd
Im gonna follow all rules like i did in all the icws i participated, please make sure u do follow them, cause u might have just played 1 so u dont need to teach me anything ;)

Play nice please.

Quote from: (GGR)Mandalore.Wolfe{98th} on May 25, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
Do you have to sign up again if you were a yak already last season? I do not know if GGR will be able to participate so we might all just join the yak again

You will have to sign up again, {YAK}'s ICW4's roster will not carry over to ICW5.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on May 25, 2015, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: (GGR)Mandalore.Wolfe{98th} on May 25, 2015, 03:10:35 PM
Do you have to sign up again if you were a yak already last season? I do not know if GGR will be able to participate so we might all just join the yak again

I removed everyone from the YAK Board to start fresh, but I can add you again.  Just post in the recruitment thread if you decide to be in YAK again.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on May 25, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
I think Alpha will take part. Tcf and a few wusi said they would help us out. Will post clan list sometime later.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Black Water on May 25, 2015, 07:41:21 PM
I highly doubt that 212 will participate in this one, as yet again the host is in a participating clan, which is not very professional.. because c'mon guys, really, no way it will turn out fair or unbiased. Will not even start to point out all the obvious flaws with that in the past ICWs.. lol. If anyone needs a merc feel free to PM me, I will join YAK as last resort.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Snake on May 25, 2015, 08:14:11 PM
I will take this to AaTc for vote. I don't know if I personally will be able to be there and a lot of our guys may be too busy, but hopefully there will be enough to play.

@Black Water, we may need your merc services if we join.  :)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: [FC]BoMbeR on May 25, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: Black Water on May 25, 2015, 07:41:21 PM
I highly doubt that 212 will participate in this one, as yet again the host is in a participating clan, which is not very professional.. because c'mon guys, really, no way it will turn out fair or unbiased. Will not even start to point out all the obvious flaws with that in the past ICWs.. lol. If anyone needs a merc feel free to PM me, I will join YAK as last resort.

It's a shame to see 212 not participating however {YAK} is always recruiting so I hope to see you on the battlefield!

Update:

*Dark Phantom added to lead admin*
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Gold Man on May 26, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
I might participate in this ICW. I've participated off-and-on in the past, and I've always attended at least one battle per ICW.

Put me down as a maybe, and even if I do end up playing, I'l probably side with YAK again (retired from Alpha a few months back).
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: SirPimped on May 26, 2015, 10:37:37 AM
Sounds like fun. Count me in.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on May 26, 2015, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: Gold Man on May 26, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
I might participate in this ICW. I've participated off-and-on in the past, and I've always attended at least one battle per ICW.

Put me down as a maybe, and even if I do end up playing, I'l probably side with YAK again (retired from Alpha a few months back).

If you wanted to join Alpha for the tournament that would be most appreciated, even if you can't come to many battles it would definitely help us out.   :)


Also if anyone wants to join alpha for the tournament pm me. If someone could pm me a Member list from tcf and wusi (even if only a few members are joining) that would also be helpful.


Also, this is probably in the rules (but I didn't specifically see it when I looked over it) but I assume we all need to have the same tags? if so we will probably decide on that sometime soon, whether to just use alpha tags or something more inclusive of other people joining us for the tournament.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: BOB.LION on May 27, 2015, 12:46:29 AM
I see many people talk about joining YAK. This is a worry. Join BOB :)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: Black Water on May 25, 2015, 07:41:21 PM
I highly doubt that 212 will participate in this one, as yet again the host is in a participating clan, which is not very professional.. because c'mon guys, really, no way it will turn out fair or unbiased. Will not even start to point out all the obvious flaws with that in the past ICWs.. lol. If anyone needs a merc feel free to PM me, I will join YAK as last resort.
id disagree i think the tournament structure itself determines more the level of professionalism than who is hosting it. rules should probably be voted on more to prevent some of the flaws from previous tourneys. i thought joseph was going to host this but he delegated head admin role to Bomber, who just returned to FC after several months inactivity. id rather see something like an admin council than one person running the whole show.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on May 28, 2015, 05:29:55 AM
Quote from: Phobos on May 27, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
id disagree i think the tournament structure itself determines more the level of professionalism than who is hosting it. rules should probably be voted on more to prevent some of the flaws from previous tourneys. i thought joseph was going to host this but he delegated head admin role to Bomber, who just returned to FC after several months inactivity. id rather see something like an admin council than one person running the whole show.

I agree with Phobos.

Obviously a tournament can be ran by someone with clan ties; Oven/Joseph did it very well, despite being an active member of FC, as well (even though it was not known).  When it comes down to it, it's just harder to call a clanless admin biased towards a certain clan.

An admin council is an interesting idea that I think would work.  We could always try it for the first week and if it's not working, revert to the old leadership structure.

Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on May 28, 2015, 05:57:27 AM
What i dont get is why u made a division between lead admin and admins...  i think everyone should have the same "title"...
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Norwood on May 28, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Shazam on May 28, 2015, 05:29:55 AMWhen it comes down to it, it's just harder to call a clanless admin biased towards a certain clan.

An admin council is an interesting idea that I think would work.  We could always try it for the first week and if it's not working, revert to the old leadership structure.
While an Admin council is an admirable idea, and I think it might be helpful, but all of the Admins are still members of clans and thus that only solves part of the issue. You are going to have a hard time finding a clanless admin because most active players in this game, that have an interest in tournaments, are a part of clans for that very reason.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Black Water on May 28, 2015, 08:24:02 AM
Quote from: Shazam on May 28, 2015, 05:29:55 AM
I agree with Phobos.

Obviously a tournament can be ran by someone with clan ties; Oven/Joseph did it very well, despite being an active member of FC, as well (even though it was not known).  When it comes down to it, it's just harder to call a clanless admin biased towards a certain clan.

An admin council is an interesting idea that I think would work.  We could always try it for the first week and if it's not working, revert to the old leadership structure.
No, he did not do a very good job. Only reason 212 got some of the calls was for him not to be TOO obvious about it, having a council is a good idea though.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on May 28, 2015, 08:31:54 AM
I rather strongly disagree about the admin council. Councils and committees are extremely inefficient in my experience. (The main tool preventing corruption is transparency.) There should one leader, who is trustworthy enough to make good decisions, or else nothing will ever get done.

(Of course theres nothing wrong with voting on rules/etc. beforehand.)

Idk how well most people here know Bomber, so maybe its reasonable for you to withold judgement, but I would only have allowed him to use the pre-existing ICW "brand" if I thought he was capable of succeeding.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on May 28, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
Quote from: Anyder on May 28, 2015, 05:57:27 AM
What i dont get is why u made a division between lead admin and admins...  i think everyone should have the same "title"...
I agree. The rules don't explain the difference unless i missed something.

Quote from: Joseph on May 28, 2015, 08:31:54 AM
I rather strongly disagree about the admin council. Councils and committees are extremely inefficient in my experience. (The main tool preventing corruption is transparency.) There should one leader, who is trustworthy enough to make good decisions, or else nothing will ever get done.

(Of course theres nothing wrong with voting on rules/etc. beforehand.)

Idk how well most people here know Bomber, so maybe its reasonable for you to withold judgement, but I would only have allowed him to use the pre-existing ICW "brand" if I thought he was capable of succeeding.
It can go either way really. A council that is completely transparent and knows what they're doing would be more efficient than just one admin who met those requirements, especially if there were more players participating. Often times councils are more inefficient though, it depends on the structure and number of players.

Could you explain what convinced you that he is capable of being the new lead admin for the ICW?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on May 28, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
I introduced the division between (i) "lead" and (ii) "normal" admin in ICW4, to distinguish between people who

(i) have authority to make any decision if needed, even in novel situations.
(ii) only capable of adjudicating battles according to established rules, and deferring to lead admins in new/ambiguous cases.

For me, the distinction was worth making, though ultimately not needed in practice (IIRC) because ICW4 went so smoothly. I still think it's worth making, but it's Bomber's call.

Quote from: Phobos on May 28, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
Could you explain what convinced you that he is capable of being the new lead admin for the ICW?

I'll try.

When Bomber first agreed to run this, I was maybe only 60-70% confident, simply out of ignorance. The key pieces of info I based the decision on were

--an incident in ICW4. Bomber made a thread to complain about a match (or multiple) where the sides were highly unbalanced, pointing out (I think, correctly), that matches like this are unfair and pointless, despite being allowed by the rules. Now, this fact is pretty obvious, and retrospectively most people would likely agree. But it favorably impressed me that he was willing to make "an issue" out of it, where most people (unfortunately) would probably just try to rationalize or accept the rules. (NOTE - I now see wyo made the thread, and bomber supported him, still, this is what I originally remembered).

--he had tried to run a similar-to-ICW tourney in BF2, and also initially approached me asking about ICW5. Clearly he was motivated to make it happen.

By now, after talking with him a lot about details of the ICW5, my confidence is more like 90-99%, but I'm not going to relate everything we've talked about.

--------------------------------------------------

I can imagine a council being designed in many possible ways. Some of them will work, and others won't. It's probably best for me (and others) not to speculate on the merits of a council unless it's properly defined what role the council would have. A good council might look like this: There is a council member from each participating faction, and any controversy from a match between two clans, will have the outcome decided by council members not in that clan.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on May 28, 2015, 11:11:06 AM
Still, i dont see why dividing this position. ICW1 was cool and all admins even got an award for their job...
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on May 28, 2015, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Joseph on May 28, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
For me, the distinction was worth making, though ultimately not needed in practice (IIRC) because ICW4 went so smoothly. I still think it's worth making, but it's Bomber's call.

--he had tried to run a similar-to-ICW tourney in BF2, and also initially approached me asking about ICW5. Clearly he was motivated to make it happen.

I can imagine a council being designed in many possible ways. Some of them will work, and others won't. It's probably best for me (and others) not to speculate on the merits of a council unless it's properly defined what role the council would have. A good council might look like this: There is a council member from each participating faction, and any controversy from a match between two clans, will have the outcome decided by council members not in that clan.
I noticed this too in particular.
The council idea would need to be defined more explicitly and might work better in a different tourney format, but since the ICW4 went so smooth, it makes sense to use similar rules in the ICW5.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: BOB.LION on June 05, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
any news or updates? how are things going for everyone?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Rayce on June 05, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
How do Mercs work?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on June 05, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
~PFA~ Will soon add their list.
:moo:
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on June 05, 2015, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: [FC]BoMbeR on May 24, 2015, 06:30:53 PM
Clan lists and mercenaries:

1. Each clan is required to maintain a clan list throughout the tournament. Lists can be added to at any time, but never subtracted from (unless no battles have taken place since the change). The lists will be public; submit any changes to me and/or Phantom. The members of the list don't have to "be in" your clan officially, but they cannot appear on any other clan list at any time in the tournament.

2. So to clarify, if your clan has a friend who wants to play exclusively for you, they should probably be put on the clan list. Players who don't want to commit to playing for a specific clan should not be on a list.

3. Ingame, players must use a name identical to the one on the list. Mercenaries must wear a tag similar to: (Clan)(Merc)Name.

4. Namefaking is absolutely prohibited and, if confirmed, results in forfeit. Admins will check IPs in situations of doubt.
Quote from: Commander Awesome on June 05, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
How do Mercs work?
Lol....

Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on June 05, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
~PFA~ Will soon add their list.
:moo:
Didnt u say u were not going to play ? lol
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on June 05, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
I just eat tacos, now I am a real Muchacho !!
Imma participate ! anyder :)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on June 05, 2015, 09:41:34 PM
Please stay on topic (I removed some irrelevant posts).

Quote from: Commander Awesome on June 05, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
How do Mercs work?

Mercs can be anyone, even from another clan list. This rule says how many mercs there can be in a given battle:

Quote1. Neither team (Attackers or Defenders) can be outnumbered by more then 2. The clan:merc ratio will stay the same and can be at most 2:1. Rounding favors mercs. So 6:3 and 7:4 are both acceptable.

If you have other questions feel free to ask.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Ultimo on June 06, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
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Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on June 06, 2015, 02:20:42 AM
I dont get it. He can insult me by calling me mexican, but i cant say that he lacks general culture ?
So hilarious lol #datoppression

Also i think that if my post was unnecesary (what i agree with tbh), u should have edited his message, dont u think ;)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Carbon27 on June 06, 2015, 06:02:33 AM
Quote from: Anyder on June 06, 2015, 02:20:42 AM
I dont get it. He can insult me by calling me mexican, but i cant say that he lacks general culture ?
So hilarious lol #datoppression

Also i think that if my post was unnecesary (what i agree with tbh), u should have edited his message, dont u think ;)

  Unless you are referring to a deleted post and not the "Imma eat tacos" one, insult is the wrong word to use.  Just like the "Very Anyder song" comment a while back (He didn't say it negatively really), I do not see how that classifies as an insult.  I don't think Majesty had any desires to insult you with that comment.  BUT, I see how from your point of view they could be called that, but I disagree and feel it was a lighthearted joke or something (I don't fully understand what he meant, but it didn't seem insult-sh, he put a smiley in there for gosh's sake).  Majesty, I think you should be a little more careful in what you say.

  On a lighter note...

  Me and scout where discussing what our clan would do for the ICW5.  I hear that we are joining Aatc and possible a couple others.  Is this true?  I would like to be updated on this.  And if any clan wants to join, PM me and I will contact Scout.

Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on June 06, 2015, 06:10:52 AM
IT IS TRUE CARBY ! :)
...
Mr.Anyder. I am not insulting you, just jogging..uh :blink:
joking!,not like I was usual to do in the past. :shrug:
I like you Mr.Anyder, like everyone here.


Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Led on June 06, 2015, 06:40:02 AM
Majesty tends to try to hide veiled insults behind a feigned language misunderstanding.  I don't buy it.  I have increased his warning level.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on June 06, 2015, 06:53:18 AM
aaahh... Mr.led..
always here for me.
do not ban me!, I am not swearing
:whistle:
...

...


...

-_-
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on June 06, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: Carbon27 on June 06, 2015, 06:02:33 AM
Me and scout where discussing what our clan would do for the ICW5.  I hear that we are joining Aatc and possible a couple others.  Is this true?  I would like to be updated on this.  And if any clan wants to join, PM me and I will contact Scout.

I talked to snake and scout, and both seemed positive about allying. AATC was going to have a clan vote on whether to join at all, basically with the assumption that they'd join with WgT, I don't know the results. (I also heard that (at least) one other clan might join an AATC-WgT alliance.)

My recommendation is add as many people as you can from the relevant clans and bug them about it on xfire. If you're not sure who to add, PM me.

Led might be willing to set up a private subforum for the alliance on this site.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: dalapto on June 06, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
If there any matches before the 5th of July count me in! (as a merc)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Soul :D on June 06, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
Anyone looking for a merc hit me up.

xfire: wusisoul
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Rayce on June 06, 2015, 07:06:01 PM
I'll be either a merc or spec. Likely depending on the battle. I don't have an Xfire currently so PM me here if interested.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on June 06, 2015, 07:29:12 PM
you should both join YAK, see the OP.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on June 06, 2015, 08:42:39 PM
Quote from: Joseph on June 06, 2015, 07:29:12 PM
you should both join YAK, see the OP.

Of course, I agree with Joseph on this.  ;)

If any clans want to join forces, YAK is here with open arms.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: BarneyWhite2010 on June 11, 2015, 03:34:35 PM
I will join this event, it sounds like alot of fun.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Dark_Phantom on June 11, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
I would recommend joining a team then.  A team like YAK might be the perfect fit if you are unsure of the teams and such.  Not all teams have been finalized yet, so there is still chances to join them.
By the way, welcome!
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Chilli En'Ten on June 23, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
Enten will participate ICW5!
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on June 23, 2015, 01:22:10 PM
Wwweeeeeeeeee  :moo:
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Led on June 23, 2015, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: ~PFA~ Majesty Leader on June 23, 2015, 01:22:10 PM
Wwweeeeeeeeee  :moo:

Forum warning level increased.  Stop spamming.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Chilli En'Ten on June 28, 2015, 05:26:23 AM
Is our homemap Hoth in the Map-Pool?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on June 28, 2015, 06:30:30 AM
It is Hoth: Caves, not the normal one, if that is ur question.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: Chilli En'Ten on June 28, 2015, 05:26:23 AM
Is our homemap Hoth in the Map-Pool?

The planets have not been assigned yet, as far as I know.

They should be assigned shortly after June 30th (the deadline for clans to sign up).
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: WusiSniper on June 28, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
Kiwi, are we still on for letting Delta and I join with you guys?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: WusiSniper on June 28, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
And yes Wusi will be in the ICW5
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on June 28, 2015, 02:18:36 PM
Quote from: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
The planets have not been assigned yet, as far as I know.

They should be assigned shortly after June 30th (the deadline for clans to sign up).
I think u misunderstood him, or i did.
Hoth is entenclan's homemap, and he wonders if it is in the ICW5 map list
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on June 28, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Anyder on June 28, 2015, 02:18:36 PM
I think u misunderstood him, or i did.
Hoth is entenclan's homemap, and he wonders if it is in the ICW5 map list

Ah, I thought he was asking whether or not Hoth would be one of their starting planets.

I misunderstood him.  After re-reading it, I think you answered his question.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on July 03, 2015, 01:52:41 AM
"ICW5 week 1 date:

Matches will need to be posted on July 5th or 6th. The first set of matches will start on July 10th 2015."

When are u gonna post the pic with all maps ? Lol
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2015, 02:24:36 AM
Quote from: Anyder on July 03, 2015, 01:52:41 AM
When are u gonna post the pic with all maps ? Lol
I'm working on it, so it'll be ready today.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on July 03, 2015, 02:41:26 AM
Quote from: WusiSniper on June 28, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
Kiwi, are we still on for letting Delta and I join with you guys?

Yes your more than welcome to join us!
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
Hey folks, as promised here is the map:
I will make some aesthetic changes to it later, as I don't have my wacom on me right now.
(http://i.imgur.com/VVZOwjh.jpg)
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on July 03, 2015, 09:12:41 AM
superb map design as always unit  :cheers:
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Joseph on July 03, 2015, 09:15:09 AM
Wow that is really sick, probably my favorite of your maps.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on July 03, 2015, 09:41:28 AM
Good job friends !  :moo:
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on July 03, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
As always, the map looks amazing.  The planet layout is going to make this a very intense tournament.  Thanks for taking the time to make it, 33!
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Unit 33 on July 03, 2015, 10:27:07 AM
It's basically the same layout as the previous ICW, which also had 15 planets.

3 rings of 5 planets just seem more balanced than the other layouts I tried.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Black Water on July 03, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Shazam on July 03, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
As always, the map looks amazing.  The planet layout is going to make this a very intense tournament.  Thanks for taking the time to make it, 33!
Oh my gurd so freaking intense  :cheer: ... Lol
Good job unit
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Snake on July 03, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
It looks like you are trying to summon the devil! The site is possessed!  :panic:
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Unit 33 on July 04, 2015, 12:20:46 AM
Quote from: Snake on July 03, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
It looks like you are trying to summon the devil! The site is possessed!  :panic:
More like trying to summon Sally, ay?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Black Water on July 04, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
What is the password to the ICW5 training server? I cannot find it in the threads its supposed to be on..
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Anyder on July 04, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Black Water on July 04, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
What is the password to the ICW5 training server? I cannot find it in the threads its supposed to be on..
I've no idea on who is hosting it, but it lags really bad.. I have 140-150 ping in FC's servers and about the same in PLA, and in this server i reached 186 lol
I guess it is selfhosted
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Black Water on July 04, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Anyder on July 04, 2015, 11:50:34 AM
I've no idea on who is hosting it, but it lags really bad.. I have 140-150 ping in FC's servers and about the same in PLA, and in this server i reached 186 lol
I guess it is selfhosted
Indeed, the title led me to believe Led was hosting it but I guess one of the clans in the ICW must be hosting it.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Shazam on July 04, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
I think Majesty is hosting that server for PFA and Alpha to practice on.
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on July 08, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
reuploaded the map pack and server kit here
http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=9359.msg98097#msg98097
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Led on July 08, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: Phobos on July 08, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
reuploaded the map pack and server kit here
http://www.swbfgamers.com/index.php?topic=9359.msg98097#msg98097

Hmm, what happened to this topic ?
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Phobos on July 08, 2015, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: Led on July 08, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
Hmm, what happened to this topic ?
when you deleted the first map pack from the downloads i think it deleted the thread too
Title: Re: ICW5
Post by: Led on July 08, 2015, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: Phobos on July 08, 2015, 06:26:13 PM
when you deleted the first map pack from the downloads i think it deleted the thread too

ah, sorry!
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