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Modding for the Original SWBF1 and SWBF2 => SWBF1 Modding => Topic started by: Phobos on October 22, 2011, 01:56:17 AM

Title: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 22, 2011, 01:56:17 AM
I'm wondering how to make fonts invisible (alpha channel) in core.lvl? It appears BattleBelk did this to make reinforcements invisible. It would also make chat invisible.

This is the only information I could find about it.

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Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 22, 2011, 01:58:06 AM
Possible to hex edit out the tex_ chunks to remove color?
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: SleepKiller on October 22, 2011, 02:11:59 AM
This thread is not needed you already have your other one  ;) But as I told you before making the fonts invisable would cause unintentional damge to game text as well as chat. And I think all BB did was hide the HUD  Teancum recently mentioned something about being able to hide the HUD on gametoast. (Too bad you had to respond to his requests for pictures in a violent fashion, else you may have your answer. Semi-ironic don't you think?)

BTW, way I am in no way attacking you so please do not take it that way.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 22, 2011, 02:19:42 AM
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 22, 2011, 02:11:59 AM
This thread is not needed you already have your other one  ;) But as I told you before making the fonts invisable would cause unintentional damge to game text as well as chat. And I think all BB did was hide the HUD  Teancum recently mentioned something about being able to hide the HUD on gametoast. (Too bad you had to respond to his requests for pictures in a violent fashion, else you may have your answer. Semi-ironic don't you think?)

BTW, way I am in no way attacking you so please do not take it that way.
This thread is needed to explore the details further and centralize all discussion in case an answer develops. ;)
It was teancum who tried to blackmail me, I find it ironic you think I might care about his worthless input. I already mentioned I successful hid all HUD Interface textures, all that is left was fonts and text.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: SleepKiller on October 22, 2011, 02:25:03 AM
From what I gathered Teancum simply forgot that the rule he was talking about had never been posted in the main set of rules and was never posted in the SWBF1 forum thus a modder like yourself would miss it, since they only put it in the SWBFII WIP forum. And you not knowing the rule thought you were in the clear. And I think Teancum did not mean editing comm.lvl I think he meant the game itself has a hidden funtion to hide the HUD.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Led on October 22, 2011, 05:53:11 AM
Perhaps another method to keep players from chatting would be to force a key binding change for chat.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 22, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: Buckler on October 22, 2011, 05:53:11 AM
Perhaps another method to keep players from chatting would be to force a key binding change for chat.
As Cull says, anything is possible. I'm more interested in a way to hide/show the chat from client view using a trainer, like I said mostly for when servers are packed full with 32+ people - the chat is like an endless spamming distraction of words taking up 15% of the screen. What memory hackers would work for this? I know of cheat engine, autoIT, and something else called OllyDBG which I haven't tested yet.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: SleepKiller on October 22, 2011, 03:43:38 PM
Well I would say find a veriable that changes when chat is sent use cheat engine to null out the code that is changing this veriable. Don't know if that would work, just a thought.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 30, 2011, 02:34:09 PM
I have run various tests for hypothetical solutions. Here are the results:
- Removing the references for the different size .font in the common.req causes instant crash upon certain menu selection or map start.
- Hex editing lines from suspected .script files either results in no change or instant crash (no sptest logs).
- Editing the fff files using the fonteditor.exe in sleepkillers builder results in instant crash (untested in 32bit).

There are more ideas I have but they are a bit more abstract. A simple /command line switch in the shortcut for exe to certain interface elements could very well exist I will do some digging.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Phobos Developer on October 30, 2011, 02:34:09 PM
I have run various tests for hypothetical solutions. Here are the results:
- Removing the references for the different size .font in the common.req causes instant crash upon certain menu selection or map start.
- Hex editing lines from suspected .script files either results in no change or instant crash (no sptest logs).
- Editing the fff files using the fonteditor.exe in sleepkillers builder results in instant crash (untested in 32bit).

There are more ideas I have but they are a bit more abstract. A simple /command line switch in the shortcut for exe to certain interface elements could very well exist I will do some digging.
Here is what BattleBelk did, first open up SWBF go ingame spawn enter freecam then exit freecam. All the HUD elements that were shown in the video to be missing will be missing. Case closed.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Syyy on October 30, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
Saw a server with disabled chat, also played on a server in wich the admin disabled the chat DURING the map, but don't know how...

@SleepKiller : I still have the HUD after using freecam, I have the effect you talk about only on swbf2.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on October 30, 2011, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
Here is what BattleBelk did, first open up SWBF go ingame spawn enter freecam then exit freecam. All the HUD elements that were shown in the video to be missing will be missing. Case closed.
Case is not closed, and that is NOT what battlebelk did. He is not freecamming in his videos, if you had watched them you would know that he is recording from unit camera view.

The chat sometimes gets disabled when people spam a lot, but I can see if someone knew enough about cheat engine they could make a trainer for enable/disable the chat function in their server. That would be different than a client mod which simply makes the chat fonts alpha channel.

You have indirectly given me an idea sleepkiller, look in freecam script for the code that picks out which hud elements to hide.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: SleepKiller on October 30, 2011, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: Syrion on October 30, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
Saw a server with disabled chat, also played on a server in wich the admin disabled the chat DURING the map, but don't know how...

@SleepKiller : I still have the HUD after using freecam, I have the effect you talk about only on swbf2.
Ah. so it is.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 10, 2012, 07:03:30 AM
Hello people. So i have an question. I maked all strings in game invisible. But question is that: Can i found some how in description of font's a description of only numbers of that font. I just need to change only that. So maybe it is some kind of markers there. Will be great if someone explain me it.
-Thank you for your time!-


And ye , it was great post Phobos about description of fonts. It helped me a lot.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Led on July 10, 2012, 05:34:28 PM
I think that you can build a font and just make the numbers clear.  But I think you have to remake the whole font.  I think phobos did it--it is a lot of work, from what I understand.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on July 10, 2012, 05:42:30 PM
yes i was able to make invisible fonts, and another with only numbers visible.
however, since discussion of software cracks arent allowed here i am not able to discuss the subject any further.

Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Led on July 10, 2012, 05:57:06 PM
I've always said you can talk about things.  Distribution of things that violate the EULA shouldn't be done here.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 11, 2012, 02:05:10 AM
Hello guys  , i made all font invisible its not so hard. But maybe you can tell me in wich way discribed numbers in fonts. Maybe it have some markers on begining and end's. Maybe it built in some way. So if you could help - that would be great.
-Thanks!-
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
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Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on July 11, 2012, 02:45:23 AM
The source fonts in FFF format are not available. Psych0fred posted some for swbf2 but they don't look as nice IMO.

BattleBelk mentioned he found a way to extract the texture from the bf1 munged .font files but how he did that nobody else has figured out yet. If that was achieved it would be easy to edit the stock bf1 fonts.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 11, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
Hey again. So i made it! I made invisible only numbers of one font. So i made invisible numbers on rainforcment count and ammo count.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on July 11, 2012, 11:42:12 AM
you sure seem to know alot for being 'new' to modding.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 11, 2012, 11:54:50 PM
Oh , i really new in this stuff in BF. But i used to mod other games. Like Wrcraft 3. I made many maps on it and many models.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 12, 2012, 10:04:23 AM
And ye , guys , i can tell one thing : color's of strings are described not in exeally font describtion. This conclusion i made from some expirience that i had with font's editing. So where color's of separate strings are saved? It is secret now for me.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Phobos on July 12, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
So you have experience with font editing software and modeling software. Use XSI Softimage by any chance? We are looking for people to port more aliens to swbf. We have around 40 species so far.
Title: Re: How To Make Fonts Invisible?
Post by: Inkognito on July 13, 2012, 07:49:25 AM
No , i using 3ds MAX. And milkshape.
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