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Title: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 08, 2013, 07:44:18 AM
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Remarks

1. *Dagobah has been awarded to 212. I don't blame YAK's leaders for the mystery players, but the screenshot and ensuing discussion demonstrates that the battle was not legitimate.

2. Most people want this to be the last week of the ICW3 -- therefore it will be. (The pattern 8-4-8 is a nice one, I'd say.) In all likelihood, it will be the last week of any ICW tournament.

So make the most of it!
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: SirPimped on October 08, 2013, 07:53:16 AM
Oh good, more unfair punishment for YAK. As I said in the week 7 thread, I showed up minutes before the Dagobah battle started and was trying to account for who was who on my team. The admin for the battle started to countdown before I could account for everyone on the team. Why is always being punished? Do you really have something against YAK? I didn't think so before, but now it's starting to seem so. We get punished for Majesty and for admin mistakes and I'm tired of it.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 08, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
We started that battle really late... Must have been half past or something. More YAK just kept joining every 5mins which meant we had to get one more player... Then one guy left and so we (didn't have to do this) waited for him to return instead of him joining halfway through. We asked repeatidly to start but you guys didn't answer aside from when Kelle did by asking the same thing :P But that was 30mins prep you had before the battle started. Yes you were most likely trying to find more players for most of it, I have to do that myself, but there was enough time to ask who the people were you were not sure about and if not, ask to leave/boot/ban.
Let's just have no more arguments :/
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Unit 33 on October 08, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Hey there. This is a map.


In the likely scenario that I have made an error, feel free to complain.


[FIXED]
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 08, 2013, 10:32:33 AM
ya, it isnt degobah, its dagobah lol

Plus fw attacks:

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Mos
Proposed day/time: Saturday 4 pm EST
1.0 is CIS

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Platforms
Proposed day/time: Sunday 3:30 pm EST
Side not decided (will be updated)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Unit 33 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: Kniescheibenzerschredderer on October 08, 2013, 10:32:33 AM
ya, it isnt degobah, its dagobah lol
It's been spelt that way since Week One. There's no going back.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 08, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
I would have thought a rematch would be better for Dagobah since YAK were defending so it seems unfair to lose a planet without a proper fight but I know that causes it's own problems. I wasn't there so won't complain.
Let's make this last week the best yet. :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 08, 2013, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: UNIT 33 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
It's been spelt that way since Week One. There's no going back.
Well not me lol, i dont have such dyslexic grade =P
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 08, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: SirPimped on October 08, 2013, 07:53:16 AM
The admin for the battle started to countdown before I could account for everyone on the team.
I'm not sure why you think this is relevant. The battle started ~30 minutes late. By the accounts of people who were actually there, Wild and 1.0 were trying to identify the mystery players, but got no information.

QuoteWhy is always being punished?
Because YAK, or players who pretend to be in YAK, always break the rules.

QuoteDo you really have something against YAK? I didn't think so before, but now it's starting to seem so. We get punished for Majesty and for admin mistakes and I'm tired of it.

You think YAK should be excused from penalty because it is so disorganized? Suppose for sake of argument that all of YAK's problems are due to people who aren't formally in YAK. Great. But it's still unfair to the other two clans in this tournament no matter who's cheating against them.

By the way, which admin mistake did Wild make, exactly? I have said numerous times that if for some reason a battle is running late, and a team won't fix a problem for whatever reason, then the battle should be played anyway, and then the rules (and me) consulted later. Wild did the correct thing (given that he does not have ban powers), as far as I know.

GDH, everytime I call a rematch problems happen. But if you can work something out with 1.0 for this weekend, it's fine with me.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 08, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
Honestly I don't think its truly YAKS fault even though they should watch what their doing. There were many YAK people out there that we had no clue about. How ever one of them was Majesty obviously again because he has no respect towards others. I honestly don't think his xfire chat logs matter because there is a big difference in what someone says, and what they are going to do. (Majesty should just be banned from all servers)

You can't point a finger at Sirpimped though for trying to do his job. The battle started way later then it should have but I do think hes smart enough to organize YAK. It is not his fault if someone with a fake name won't answer him, or says he/she will promise to do something or not.

Should 212 get the planet? Well that is a tricky decision already made by Oven. I would have thought of another compromise instead but its not my tournament.

And since this is the very last week can someone tell me what happens with ties? Because 212 doing European servers and us hosting American servers I doubt once again either side will make any new ground if YAK is eliminated.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 08, 2013, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 08, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
Honestly I don't think its truly YAKS fault even though they should watch what their doing.
You mean like I said 3-4 weeks ago?

QuoteYou can't point a finger at Sirpimped though for trying to do his job.
Who did that? I was just defending myself against the charge of corruption.

QuoteIt is not his fault if someone with a fake name won't answer him, or says he/she will promise to do something or not.
No one said it was his fault.

QuoteShould 212 get the planet? Well that is a tricky decision already made by Oven. I would have thought of another compromise instead but its not my tournament.
I've already said that if 212 and YAK can agree on a time, I will let them rematch. But I'm not going to demand it.

QuoteAnd since this is the very last week can someone tell me what happens with ties? Because 212 doing European servers and us hosting American servers I doubt once again either side will make any new ground if YAK is eliminated.
I'll think about it; and of course, suggestions are welcome too.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 09, 2013, 09:34:27 AM
I would like a rematch with 212 since I don't think it was YAK's fault that we've become a target for imposters but it's probably more trouble than it's worth so the offers open but I don't expect it of 212.

Is it OK to post on Thursday this week because of the delay starting? I can get something tonight if needed but I would rather let our American players have a say while I'm in bed and then post tomorrow.

Also I would just like to say that although in the past members of YAK have broken rules (like all the teams :) ) it is very few of them and they are no longer in YAK, we always do our best to play fairly and where possible help to make the games more enjoyable for all teams.

The tie situation looks like a realistic prospect so as far as I see there are three options to decide a winner;
Biggest win in the final battles
Consistency - Most wins/planets held at one time etc over the whole tournament
A final battle (could cause arguments over server hosting).

I'm just glad I don't have to decide. :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Unit 33 on October 09, 2013, 09:46:17 AM
Uh... Fixed Degobah spelling issue., it was eating away at my brain.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 09, 2013, 10:13:51 AM
We have mostly always defended on an American server and especially as members have requested a European server, there is no reason why there should be any complain. Iceman said himself - "Only ICW match I have played without lagg". We have American players. They have played in American servers every battle until now and are okay with the lagg. We (Europeans), except Anyder - because of his amazing internet ;) - lagg in American servers but we just deal with it. We won on American servers and it just makes it even harder to defend planets on an American server. That server was just bad as Anyder explained why. Can we just not bring this up again?

Gdh, the last thing we need is a re-match, especially because that map is not one of our "favorites" ;) I will say no re-match for now. But maybe we can think of a compromise but I need time to speak with other members.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: engelskrieger on October 09, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
Attacking Clan: 212
Defending Clan: YAK
Planet: Docks
Proposed day/time: Saturday 2 pm
212 is CIS

Attacking Clan: 212
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Rhen Var Citadel
Proposed day/time: Sunday 2 pm
212 is EMP

If something is wrong, Nixo'll correct that tomorrow
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 10, 2013, 07:18:09 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on October 09, 2013, 09:34:27 AM
Is it OK to post on Thursday this week because of the delay starting?
Yes
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 10, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Quote from: Oven on October 10, 2013, 07:18:09 AM
Yes
That's lucky because my internet crashed anyway. :)

Attacking Clan: YAK
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Dagobah
Proposed day/time: Saturday 3est
YAK side: Empire (TBC)

Attacking Clan: YAK
Defending Clan: 1.0
Planet: Bespin
Proposed day/time: Sunday 3est
YAK side: Empre (TBC)

I hope that suits everyone, just let me know if there's any problems.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 10, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on October 10, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Attacking Clan: YAK
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Dagobah
Proposed day/time: Sunday 3est
YAK side: Empire (TBC)
Could you change this to saturday? 3 or 4 EST would be best if you can.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 10, 2013, 11:09:58 AM
Done, I've also moved the 1.0 battle earlier as that's a better time, I think.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 11, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
That moment when you thought you posted yesterday but it never went through....

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Tatooine, Mos Eisly
Proposed day/time: Sunday 5 EST
1.0's side: CW CIS

Attacking Clan: 1.0
Defending Clan: 212
Planet: Bespin Plateforms
Proposed day/time: Sunday 6 EST
1.0's side: GCW Empire
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 11, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Hond, why so late? You honestly think a mainly European clan could attend those times? Particularly on a Sunday when people have work/school the following day. 4EST is the latest we want to go and even that is too late for some. I want to have as many battles as possible but even so Friday is a bit late... 4EST Saturday and Sunday are only availible times that can suit you and us remaining so can we change them to that?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 11, 2013, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 11, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Hond, why so late?

*Edit read it wrong lol
Yeah hond, those times are so late....
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: evosoul on October 12, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
11pm and 12pm is to late for european players hond. especially on a sunday
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 12, 2013, 07:02:46 AM
11pm & 12pm WTF!!! Hond are u drunken?   :whip: :blink:
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 12, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
The servers for today have been set up. Here's today's schedule:

212/YAK/Docks/2EST
YAK/212/Dagobah/3EST


I will be at both battles.

212 takes Docks
212 defends Dagobah

Good games everyone.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 12, 2013, 12:26:56 PM
Good games all, sorry we're short on YAK now. Thanks to all the YAKs who did come and those who helped out.
There's still one more game tomorrow, we need to have at least 1 planet at the end, we were winning at one point. :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: hellish hellbird on October 12, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
those times are terrible....what are like 1 212 gunna show up? what is this bolshevik
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: WusiBabyEater on October 12, 2013, 07:10:16 PM
11pm-12pm....is this real life?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: RepComm on October 12, 2013, 09:33:01 PM
Quote from: WusiBabyEater on October 12, 2013, 07:10:16 PM
11pm-12pm....is this real life?
Exactly what I was thinking..
What the heck is he smoking?
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 13, 2013, 03:44:41 AM
So todays battles are;
2est/7 gmt 212 attack 1.0 at Citadel
3est/8 gmt YAK attack 1.0 at Cloud City
5est/10 gmt 1.0 attack 212 at Mos
6est/11 gmt 1.0 attack 212 at Platforms

If I've got that right couldn't the 5 and 6est battles be moved to 3:30 or 4 and played straight after each other? Otherwise the last battles of the ICW could be 3 on 3 or less...

As long as YAK get a good game on CC it doesn't bother me that much though. :)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 13, 2013, 04:30:42 AM
Pls dont let anyder host the server (cause im banned)  ::)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 13, 2013, 04:38:09 AM
-.- i unbanned u
i told u to restart tunngle, but ignored me
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 13, 2013, 05:15:05 AM
Anyder is now the only active european host.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 13, 2013, 07:57:26 AM
Is 1.0 willing to compromise somewhat on the late battle times? Maybe by moving one of them back by a lot, or both back by a little? Otherwise the games will be very boring.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 13, 2013, 09:17:11 AM
Maybe move times a bit sooner, like 4 and 5
Or 3.30 and 4, idk
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 13, 2013, 09:39:14 AM
Lets move our 3 to 3:30, 4:00 and 4:30 EST
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 13, 2013, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: Kniescheibenzerschredderer on October 13, 2013, 04:38:09 AM
-.- i unbanned u
i told u to restart tunngle, but ignored me

Sorry, i was afk  :wub:

Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 13, 2013, 05:15:05 AM
Anyder is now the only active european host.

Damn   ::) , i miss Deagle & his server^^
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 13, 2013, 09:47:13 AM
Quote from: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 11, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Hond, why so late? You honestly think a mainly European clan could attend those times? Particularly on a Sunday when people have work/school the following day. 4EST is the latest we want to go and even that is too late for some. I want to have as many battles as possible but even so Friday is a bit late... 4EST Saturday and Sunday are only availible times that can suit you and us remaining so can we change them to that?

Also lets look into this Nixo. (active ones only)

American 212: Fizz, Mart, Harry, Adamus

European 212: Engel, Nixo(you), Chilli, and Richi.

These are the 212 I see mostly in the ICW3  So I don't think 212 is mainly just European. And I thought we were allowed to schedule anything from 3-5.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on October 13, 2013, 10:07:11 AM
Quote from: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 13, 2013, 09:47:13 AM
Also lets look into this Nixo. (active ones only)

American 212: Fizz, Mart, Harry, Adamus

European 212: Engel, Nixo(you), Chilli, and Richi.

These are the 212 I see mostly in the ICW3  So I don't think 212 is mainly just European. And I thought we were allowed to schedule anything from 3-5.
xD Then why 6? 5 on saturdy is do able but sunday, when people have to work and go to school the next day... iNoobishh, Sonny - who are now active. Adamus is actually european. Then we have acting members that come and help such as ACE, Deagle, Killfire and Habi then merc's such as Jumpy. Like I said mainly european. We obviously do have some American players like Ecko and Fryz.
Those times suit are much better for your clan too. As I see here a lot of your own members had problems with the times...
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Gen.Hond{snp} on October 13, 2013, 10:32:36 AM
3:30, 4:00, and 4:30 are the new times.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 13, 2013, 10:42:26 AM
I should be at all today's battles.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Oven on October 13, 2013, 01:43:30 PM
YAK took Cloud City
212 took Mos Eisley.
GGs

212 has won the ICW3. Congratulations!

I have to go right now; later today or tomorrow I will make a concluding thread where we can recognize 212 and all other participants properly. In addition, we'll be discussing the future of tournaments/organized games via this website.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Black Water on October 13, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
Thank you for the fun games, most of the wars were fun. Glad the stress is over now.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 13, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: Ten Numb on October 13, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
Thank you for the fun games, most of the wars were fun. Glad the stress is over now.
Congratz (u know why im saying this ;) )
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Superclone43 on October 13, 2013, 02:18:21 PM
yeah, definitely congrats to 212  :tu:

That last match on Mos was so funny when me, Oven and Chilli were defending the hangar cp xDD
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 13, 2013, 02:25:38 PM
Really nice fights Guys  ;) Buffer Maps FTW!
Today, it has not be lagged so much @ this (not european) Server :P

& Dirty Harry, May Godzilla be with you! U are crazy, man :rofl:

@Nixo, nice midnight fighting  :cheers:

Good Night Guys  ;)
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: Anyder on October 13, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
Quote from: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 13, 2013, 02:25:38 PM
Really nice fights Guys  ;) Buffer Maps FTW!
Today, it has not be lagged so much @ this (not european) Server :P

& Dirty Harry, May Godzilla be with you! U are crazy, man :rofl:

@Nixo, nice midnight fighting  :cheers:

Good Night Guys  ;)

Eh please, i lagged out once and had the lag icon everytime.
And yes say its my inet, i wanna laugh =)

Also congratz 212.
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: hellish hellbird on October 13, 2013, 10:35:52 PM
Quote from: Carpe Diem Jumper on October 13, 2013, 02:25:38 PM
Really nice fights Guys  ;) Buffer Maps FTW!
Today, it has not be lagged so much @ this (not european) Server :P

& Dirty Harry, May Godzilla be with you! U are crazy, man :rofl:

@Nixo, nice midnight fighting  :cheers:

Good Night Guys  ;)

For those of you who dont get the godzilla thing it was because harrys phone was ringing and it was godzilla roaring xD GG 212 WP NR (on a side note wilds ringtone is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geC2gHZ6m2g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geC2gHZ6m2g)(which i heard in a skype call we were in)) xD
Title: Re: ICW3 Week 8
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on October 14, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
I'm sure there will be a detailed post later about the ICW3 but I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who played in and organised this tournament. I know we've had some bad moments but as usual it all came good in the end, good games all and congratulations to 212.  :cheers:
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