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Hey guys, I'm proud to announce that i'll be hosting the first SWBF Tournament over at mpcgamers!

My idea is to atttempt to replicate the journey of the 501st, but I couldn't do it fully because Soul's 501st mod has been lost apparently. :)

Date: Saturday, January 31th
Time: 4 PM EST / 1 PM PST (I'm trying to make this European friendly as possible!)
Place: Direct connection (dedicated server)
IP: 98.217.24.157
Rules: No swearing, no capturing the last command post

Maps:

Lobby: Cloud City
1st map: Mygeeto (//http://www.mpcgamers.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12:mygeeto-war-torn-city&catid=1:swbf-downloads&Itemid=2) [CW] (Myg1)
2nd map: Kamino [CW]
3rd map: Coruscant: Jedi Temple (//http://files.filefront.com/cor1zip/;12244068;/fileinfo.html) [CW] (cor1)
4th map: Death Star Interior (//http://www.mpcgamers.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8:death-star-interior&catid=1:swbf-downloads&Itemid=2) [GCW] (dea1)

Scoring: Kills - deaths

Kill = +1
Deaths = -1

Look forward to seeing you there!

(Possible) attendees:

Zorba1994
Mac
Breakdown
Verik
Rhino
Inert
Master Zenwa
Thomas
Hardcore
Siler 40

Cannot attend:

Khyler
w0rm / Dawn
Blob
The Pi

-Mac

31st is Saturday. I cant make it, will be at a capitals hockey game.

Quote from: "Khyler"31st is Saturday. I cant make it, will be at a capitals hockey game.

Thanks Khyler. Edited first post. Please post if you can attend or not!

I think I can.

cant

Yeah I can probably come. Dibs on last place! :P

i think its possible that i come if im not sleeping :P

I cant make it, as im busy for most of saturday


an idea to make it euro friendly would to make it at 12 EST so its 6 euro time (i think) and 9 PST. that way everyone could make it if wanted.

w0rm

I will hopefully arrive. If I do, it'll probably be somewhat late. Thanks for setting this up, Mac.

most likely will be there

EDIT: I've got the 501st mod. It's BETA 2 (not sure if it got farther, never saw anything). I'll upload to filefront if you want

It's a maybe

Quote from: "The_Pi"most likely will be there

EDIT: I've got the 501st mod. It's BETA 2 (not sure if it got farther, never saw anything). I'll upload to filefront if you want

Thank you Pi! I won't use it in this tournament though.

I will probably make it, but is cor1 really a tournament worthy map? With all the glitches and such.

Quote from: "Master Zen"I will probably make it, but is cor1 really a tournament worthy map? With all the glitches and such.

It's a glitchy map, but the largest area of glitches is the library. It's a great map though, and is pivotal in the 501st story. If you can find a replacement map I'll surely do that.

Thanks for saying you can possibly come!

I also agree it is too glitchy but I'll try to be there as well.

WHOS hosting :D

Quote from: "Master Verik"WHOS hosting :D

I am hosting. Yesterday I hosted a perfect 8 man dedicated server from my G5, without lag. Well, actually I was the only one lagging. <_<

LOL. That's probably because you are attempting to connect through a clogged broadband from the host computer. Since everyone is talking thorugh that, including you, you also get lag on the outgoing. I'll PM some instructions on how to fix it.

I should be there for this one.

Can't capture the last CP? What do we do, just hang out and spawn kill?

Quote from: "The_Pi"LOL. That's probably because you are attempting to connect through a clogged broadband from the host computer. Since everyone is talking thorugh that, including you, you also get lag on the outgoing. I'll PM some instructions on how to fix it.

Okay, thanks. Ooh, I got the PM.

Quote from: "SchTick"I should be there for this one.

Can't capture the last CP? What do we do, just hang out and spawn kill?

Well, it's to keep the games going longer. Usually someone slips through when there's one CP left, except on Maze, and captures another one. If you think it's a bad idea let me know.

Quote from: "Mac"Well, it's to keep the games going longer. Usually someone slips through when there's one CP left, except on Maze, and captures another one. If you think it's a bad idea let me know.

Well its only a bad idea if I'm the one trying to spawn.

I've never seen it work, since either it's a constant Spawn kill fest, or someone accidentally whites the CP.

I think no last Cping is a fine idea. It's a lot better than the other way IMHO.

hey if you don't want the last Cp capped its ok by me, as long as i'm there and i'm able to play- there will be mines at every spawn

Quote from: "Hardcore"hey if you don't want the last Cp capped its ok by me, as long as i'm there and i'm able to play- there will be mines at every spawn

I don't like how some of the maps go in about 1 1/2 minutes. IE: I've played tons of mazes where the clones won without that time. It makes it so people don't complain and ask for a map to be redone.

Sorry can't make it Macy

Quote from: "Hardcore"hey if you don't want the last Cp capped its ok by me, as long as i'm there and i'm able to play- there will be mines at every spawn

I HATE YOU whit your spawn kills >(
if i be killed 3 time by a mine at the spawn (iLL BE GONE) >D

I may be able to show up. I dont have anything on the calender so It looks good for now.

Quote from: "Master Verik"

Quote from: "Hardcore"hey if you don't want the last Cp capped its ok by me, as long as i'm there and i'm able to play- there will be mines at every spawn ;-)

Sorry, I just found out that I can't make it

Tournament is in one day folks! Good luck!

Hey, I acctually can make it =D
(found out that 2day... )
But I mabey can't, I'll post more information later about that..

How long is it going to take, do you think?

*edit*: No bots, right?

Going to try to make it, probably won't though.


Have to work on Science Fair project  

Quote from: "SIMON†"Hey, I acctually can make it =D
(found out that 2day... ;-)

YAY, I'll be there (:

But, I have only played all of the maps like 1 time XD

Now I'm sad ):

I thoght like the clones woud have cool skins etc.. But it's just original clones and just strange maps :'(

It starts about 1houre and 40minuts? Right? :S

WOOT! I just realized I need to go at 5:30 and the tournament is at 4!! See ya there, losers...well, unless you're on my team

Unless something random pops up, I'll be there.

I can't be there..........................................................................................................................................

It's okay Simon. Anyway, I'll have to host a non-dedicated server since my brother needs either my Macbook or the G5 to play CoD2. I hope people don't lag that bad.

By the way, take screenshots please, then if possible, send them to me over AIM, or upload them to photobucket.

I'll get them. XFire does fairly nice screenies

I'm so in. it's on in 15 min, right?

Quote from: "Vanir"I'm so in. it's on in 15 min, right?

Yes, it's in 15 minutes. Good luck!

SERVER IS UP! GOOD LUCK!

TFH mac, it was fun, but man I sucked it up lol.

GG everyone, and congrats to whoever won who isn't me! xD

not one of my better tournaments, that's for sure.

cor1 and TK should not be allowed. That was such a teamkillfest and glitchfest.

Jedikiller has a good point. Perhaps those should be implemented, unless a fixed cor1 is made.

The scores are also in! We had 18 players total come in! It was a action packed tournament!

1st - S: 36
2nd - Killjoy: 7
3rd - Destructor: 6
4th - Hardcore: 4
5th - Ryanceros: 1
6th - Darth Verik: -1
7th - Vanir: -2
8th - Tomaszl: -5
9th - Steve Jobs and Jedikiller: -8
11th - SchTick: -10
12th - Mac: -13
13th - Kevin: -14
14th - Pi: -19
15th - Siler 40: -21
16th - Aeria Gloris: -26
17th - Master Zenwa: -35
18th - Sarg: -45

Good game all! Congratulations to Subcontractor for winning T.1 by a mile! Hope to see you all at T.2 with whoever the host may be!

Screenies:

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ggs all- everyone did good, next time we'll try to have maps with a few less chances for glitching:)

good job to Sub and Killjoy- not so much for des cause of his name.

Wow I didnt realize there were no points for CPS. I  guess I should have looked at that. If they were scored I'd have at least been on the positive side of the scoring. O well. TFH Mac. GG to all.

Can't wait for T.2!

Sorry, I missed it. Completely forgot. :)

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On the pictures there's a SWBF 2 'theme'. HOW DO I GET IT!?!?!?!? :S :S :S :S

Quote from: "SIMON†"=0

On the pictures there's a SWBF 2 'theme'. HOW DO I GET IT!?!?!?!? :S :S :S :S

It's a modded interface made by Battlebelk.

Here's one cool interface made by Battlebelk: http://files.filefront.com/Interface+To ... einfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/Interface+Tool7z/;11970430;/fileinfo.html)

Instructions to install should be here: http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtop ... =1&t=15750 (http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15750)

Here is the one I have: http://files.filefront.com/SWBF2+shell+ ... einfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/SWBF2+shell+beta+freecam7z/;9811781;/fileinfo.html)

Here's the installation instructions: http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtop ... =1&t=13428 (http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13428)

holy crap 3rd place? are you serious? i was there for like 1 and a half rounds lol i was expecting to get last or soemething.

That's exactly why you got in 3rd place. You were only there for 1 and a half rounds xD

but rounds are meant to help you not kill u lol

Quote from: "_-Destructor-_"but rounds are meant to help you not kill u lol

You missed cor1, which had only a few positive scores.

IMO scores should be altered depending on how many rounds played so that things like that don't make the game unfair to those who've been there the whole time.

Quote from: "Vanir"IMO scores should be altered depending on how many rounds played so that things like that don't make the game unfair to those who've been there the whole time.

You mean averaging the scores out by how many rounds played? That goes to the advantage of the person who play less still. If Joe plays 4 rounds and has a score of 20 and Bob plays 2 rounds and has a score of 20, Bob has 10 points and Joe has 5.

I know. Maybe you would just subtract a straight amount for number of rounds missed. The way i see it, if you join late, you're looking to play with friends, not really to win. Otherwise, someone can join in the last round, kill one or two people, then sit out the rest of the round and end with a positive score and do well. it's just not fair to those who were there the whole game.

^I'm not mad at anyone or anything in this post. I'm just pitching ideas

add 10% to everyones score for rounds play. ex: Bob plays 1 round his core X 1.1 ect. ect.

Oh bother, I missed it. I forgot and started playing a different computer game *whistles*

Quote from: "Vanir"I know. Maybe you would just subtract a straight amount for number of rounds missed. The way i see it, if you join late, you're looking to play with friends, not really to win. Otherwise, someone can join in the last round, kill one or two people, then sit out the rest of the round and end with a positive score and do well. it's just not fair to those who were there the whole game.

^I'm not mad at anyone or anything in this post. I'm just pitching ideas

Hmm, maybe you could elaborate on this in a separate topic. I suggest posting a new thread in the Tournament forum.

@ MF: No more Empire at War for you!

Lol, I think I missed it because I was watching MF play Empire at War. *whistles*

that acutally is a good idea vanir, because i got third while the people who stayed in the whole time and got negative scores got less than me. Soy our idea would make it more fair

I think a more elaborate formula then just averaging the scores would be better. Does Pi have any ideas? (I know you're good at math)

Sure. I'll even write a simple C function to parse the scores:
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#define WIN 1;
#define LOSE 0;
bool DidWin(int score, char *name) {
    if(strcmp(name, "{ACW} The Pi")) {
         return WIN;
    } else {
         return LOSE;
    }
}

Best part is that the code would actually work!

The hardest part of defining a formula is what if they got a negative score. Any division would improve the score.

What about if we take the average for the players in each map and apply that score to the late player. It keeps a penalty all the time since the player who joined can never get a score that is the top score. It may be a bit time consuming, but I could easily write a quick little HTML page to solve for the late scores automatically.

Thanks Pi!

How about instead of dividing negative scores you multiply them by the number or rounds? Or is that too unfair?

still won't work, since the negative scores would just get worse and worse. Multiplication, division, and exponents won't work with this at all

Also, instead of going with the average we could go with the median score, since one person with a super high score could boost the average to second place.

Or, if we really wanted to be mean (no pun intended), we could just give them the lowest score of the round.

Quote from: "The_Pi"still won't work, since the negative scores would just get worse and worse. Multiplication, division, and exponents won't work with this at all

Also, instead of going with the average we could go with the median score, since one person with a super high score could boost the average to second place.

Or, if we really wanted to be mean (no pun intended), we could just give them the lowest score of the round.

I guess we could go with the mean score, but that would be a pain in the butt for some people. They might have a super good round, but then lose it to some mediocre ones. I think we'll have to stick with something more basic.

I meant only applying the mean to the late joiners