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Title: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Ultimo on November 15, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
I am on this site for hours and hours most days, constantly checking for new updates, things to talk about, and things to search for when they cross my mind. The hours I spend around here, I always notice the "Who's Online" bar and always notice a registered member who is either brand new or they have very few posts on the site but I've been around for awhile. It makes me wonder a lot why the site isn't more engaging to more members of the community. I want these community members to come and be a true part of the community, but hardly any of them ever do. People always register to download a few mods, maybe lurk some of the forums, but never seem to hang around or say "Hello" very often at all. So, I've been pondering... why is it like this?

Then I realized... We are old- The site is old. It's not hip- not flashy- not attractive to audiences in modern terms. I look at it again and again, but always notice the 3 main colors of the default site layout- Black, Gray, and White. Dull colors. Don't get me wrong, many popular sites today still use White- such as YouTube, Reddit... White is fine; We've just managed to make White dull with other dull colors. We're a Star Wars: Battlefront site. I think it's time to upgrade to a Default theme that represents the game we play! Who can forget the classic Battlefront look with blue backgrounds, orange headers and white text? Everyone in our community is accustomed to it, and I think it would be a very nice addition to have! But don't get me wrong, I absolutely do love the current default layout... but we need some flavor! Something to engage an audience that is once again growing, even after the Gamespy shut-out. When we represent dull colors, we look dull too! I'm not saying we should completely destroy the theme we have all grown on; Like I said, White is nice. White works, White is still in style. But, let's add some seasoning on top of the White- Change the header backgrounds to something Orange... Maybe add a little blue in somewhere. Hey, what's wrong with classic SWBF colors?

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But wait, there's still something else missing... I think we should have a page in our community for all the Photos and Videos we make. Currently, we make thread after thread- Reply after reply for our different photos and videos, so I'm suggesting we have our own little Community page for our Photos and Videos. Heck, we could even make Webs host it and have an external link to it! Perhaps being able to display our fun memories with the community will engage our growing audience, instead of making them go to YouTube and XFire photos.

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I have a big heart for this community, so it feels odd when everybody just seems to keep passing us by. Can we prevent being ignored? Can we Engage a Re-Growing Community?

TL;DR Version: Make the Website layout more stylish and add a Community Photos and Videos page, so we can engage an audience we have that doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Led on November 15, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
I think that not participating tends to be the rule.  Those that participate are the exception.
Those of us that tend to post have known each other through the game.

A lot of people just want some maps to download (I would assume).

As far as the colors go, be specific, and we can give it a try.  BTW, I have other themes installed and you can try them if you want--but I understand that you want to change the default theme.

BTW, I leave all creative and artistic issues to Unit33  ;)
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Midsagital on November 15, 2014, 09:16:19 PM
if people wanted to "engage" they would lol, not everyone is like that. lots of people just want to be able to download things and be updated, nothing more. and most of the random names you see regularly are just alternate accounts honestly like ive had 1000 of them.

and about being old, that is what i thought the site was for, to keep an obviously old community connected. any new members that know they're stuff about this game are old since they know about the game. you will not attract random people that never played swbf to this website, the only people that will stay are "old". but that is just my opinion
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: RepComm on November 15, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
I was going to post this earlier but didn't.

"You do know that forums aren't even "In" right now, right? Changing or adding more themes would be fun and cool, but wouldn't do the desired."

I do like the idea of a more battlefront GUI styled theme though..

Something like the attached composition comes to mind..
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on November 16, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
I'm more interested in being in game battlefront than posting on here tbh. Which is probably the reason why most people don't post here more often. I feel that many topics become too distanced from the subject of battlefront to really be relevant to me. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I just don't feel any need/desire to contribute to a large portion of topics. In saying that, their are tons of cool posts and information on this website, and it is awesome to have a community website which everyone can be a part of.  A redesign wouldn't really change my opinion, but maybe other people would find it interesting. Anyway that is my two cents.

Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Phobos on November 16, 2014, 02:49:45 AM
You bring up many good points Ultimo which I agree with, except I would not change the default forum theme. This is one of the easiest themes to read out of all the SMF ones I prefer the default even though it may appear more bland than others. I would stick with this theme but add more pages like you recommended. The default gray background is unobtrusive, using the battlefront shell background might be distracting when trying to read something, but it would be interesting to have a SWBF themed skin as a secondary option. Perhaps a featured video or screenshot page would work nice like what swbf filefront has.

Kiwi raises another point, that most people in the community just want to play the game and not post on a forum. Posting here seems to be more suited to modders than nonmodders I would say. Especially because of the fact so many posts are totally irrelevant to the game and community, which is why I have certain boards on my ignore list (post farms such as "ban the person above you" for instance).

Another idea is to host more community events like the old days. There used to be more mod night servers, scrims, smaller tournaments, etc. Too many people are just losing interest, I dont know if we have total player count statistics for each ICW, but I would not be surprised if they continually were declining.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on November 16, 2014, 04:05:20 AM
A lot of good points here. In my opinion the look of the forum is good how it is and one of the best I read. Obviously we're here because of battlefront but there's a limit to general discussion on the game like our favourite troop etc after ten years so it's nice that we can post about songs we like and other games, I think that's what keeps long term visitors checking in.

I notice a lot of new members online as well but most of them are probably just here to download the Gamemaster patch and have a look around. I've looked at alot of other forums, some regularly, and never posted there, I expect they're like me and just have nothing to say on some forums. :)

As for the amount of players in game, there are still people on most nights but not many at once. I haven't played much recently except on Phobos' map in SP because I have other things to do but I think the main problem is that players are spread out across the servers, some like to be on CloudCity (and I think that remains the most popular even after all this time) but others like to be on their own clan servers and others like to be on modded servers which means you rarely get even this small number of players together, and that's a shame, although understandable.

Phobos is right - events do get more players on together and it would be nice to have some more, maybe a tournament that doesn't need any downloads so that casual players with stock battlefront can join in and have a chance. We are planning an event over Christmas which will, hopefully, be advertised at the start of December.

Sort of related: The best signature I've ever read on a forum is; 'If the games so good why are we all here?'
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Joseph on November 16, 2014, 05:46:46 AM
People aren't not posting because of the layout.

GDH, the reunion message will go out one way or another. Ifwe cant get the forum newsletter working, plan B is to divide the task of PMing everyone across as many volunteers as possible, which shouldnt be too painful.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Led on November 16, 2014, 06:00:27 AM
Quote from: Joseph on November 16, 2014, 05:46:46 AM


GDH, the reunion message will go out one way or another. Ifwe cant get the forum newsletter working, plan B is to divide the task of PMing everyone across as many volunteers as possible, which shouldnt be too painful.

I will send out another test soon.  There are some options I can change.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: «ΙΞ¢KØ» on November 16, 2014, 06:01:36 AM
I check in on the site, just dont have a lot to add.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on November 16, 2014, 06:05:42 AM
Quote from: Joseph on November 16, 2014, 05:46:46 AM
GDH, the reunion message will go out one way or another. Ifwe cant get the forum newsletter working, plan B is to divide the task of PMing everyone across as many volunteers as possible, which shouldn't be too painful.

I'm not too worried about the message, we can get that out somehow, I'm hoping to advertise on a few other sites and reach non-members when we get things finalised. :)

Quote from: Led on November 16, 2014, 06:00:27 AM
I will send out another test soon.  There are some options I can change.

Thanks Led, let me know if you want help with anything (testing if messages send etc).
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Joseph on November 16, 2014, 06:38:54 AM
Another way people can help is as follows. Majesty :moo: has been recruiting lots of people to the game, putting in a lot of effort towards finding them, and often outsources to me the task of getting them set up with battlefront, getting gamemaster working, getting no-cd working, etc. If you're willing to help with these tasks I'm sure he'd put you to work. (PM or xfire for details as sometimes this involves helping them obtain SWBF via "back-channels").

Quote from: Phobos on November 16, 2014, 02:49:45 AM
Another idea is to host more community events like the old days. There used to be more mod night servers, scrims, smaller tournaments, etc.
Yeah, this would be great. I don't think there will be an ICW this winter, but if there's interest I think it'd be pretty easy to do a 4v4 style tournament.

Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on November 16, 2014, 06:05:42 AM
I'm hoping to advertise on a few other sites and reach non-members when we get things finalised. :)
Cool, tell me if you need any help
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on November 16, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
Majesty does get a lot of people, especially Europeans. If anyone wants to be shown step by step how to get on battlefront feel free to give them my details, I used to show a few people how to install mods or fix problems over X-fire in the Gamespy days, it's quite nice when they get it working.

Quote from: Joseph on November 16, 2014, 06:38:54 AM
Cool, tell me if you need any help
Thanks. There's a gaming site I read that allows you to submit articles for the weekend, I'm no author but I'm going to see what I can come up with for battlefront -probably a 'retro review' or just a bit about how it's still going and a link to the Christmas battlefront days. If there are any US sites that are similar it might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Led on November 16, 2014, 07:51:34 AM
Quote from: Phobos on November 16, 2014, 02:49:45 AM

which is why I have certain boards on my ignore list (post farms such as "ban the person above you" for instance).

It is on my ignore list too.  And guests can't see that board.

But none of those posts count toward post count.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Norwood on November 16, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
Interesting ideas... Let me know if any of you guys need help with any of your plans to get the word out. I have one or two sites I am going to share the word about the event at as well. If Phantom is okay with it, I might send an email blast to all of the accounts on the BOBclan website. I think webs allows you to send a PM to all members, that may be worth a shot, as we have 151 members.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Ultimo on November 16, 2014, 06:16:21 PM
I know this is a little scratchy, but I figured I'd do this for potential options some users around here may want as layout themes. I know you like the default theme so these could be optional.

Orange and Blue are two different options for what could go where. If the menu bar and headers are Blue, then the background could be orange. Or the opposite. Also, the theme doesn't have to be restricted to those shades of that color.
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F4av1b4lyj%2Fswbfg1.jpg&hash=2b4bd5bdeefb533fd8cbf9ea69350c3dffd0930d)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Midsagital on November 16, 2014, 06:38:13 PM
Quote from: ևltimσ on November 16, 2014, 06:16:21 PM
I know this is a little scratchy, but I figured I'd do this for potential options some users around here may want as layout themes. I know you like the default theme so these could be optional.

Orange and Blue are two different options for what could go where. If the menu bar and headers are Blue, then the background could be orange. Or the opposite. Also, the theme doesn't have to be restricted to those shades of that color.
[spoiler](https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2F4av1b4lyj%2Fswbfg1.jpg&hash=2b4bd5bdeefb533fd8cbf9ea69350c3dffd0930d)[/spoiler]

i would turn off my monitor and run away lol
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Carbon27 on November 16, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
            Haha...              I absolutely hate 99% of most website layout, color choices, etc. This is the 1%. I really dislike the arcade forums darker theme. Changing some colors to match a SWBF1 style might be cool, I guess. But honestly I would rather it feel comfortable then "hip".

            Also, if you think members would stick around for the flashy colors, I might just have to call you crazy!  ;) And if they did, do you really think they are the kind we want around and/or have anything to contribute?
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Ultimo on November 16, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: Carbon27 on November 16, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
            Haha...              I absolutely hate 99% of most website layout, color choices, etc. This is the 1%. I really dislike the arcade forums darker theme. Changing some colors to match a SWBF1 style might be cool, I guess. But honestly I would rather it feel comfortable then "hip".

            Also, if you think members would stick around for the flashy colors, I might just have to call you crazy!  ;) And if they did, do you really think they are the kind we want around and/or have anything to contribute?

Well not everybody in this community was loveable from the start. It may take time for us to grow "attached" (for lack of a better word) to these new members, but I know all too well that nobody is perfect right away.

Whether you like someone or not is all up to chance. I for one don't like a few (anonymous) names in this community. Have they contributed to the community? One of them has indeed, and done quite a lot towards it.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Carbon27 on November 16, 2014, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: ևltimσ on November 16, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
but I know all too well that nobody is perfect right away.

Unit33 being the exception :D

Quote from: ևltimσ on November 16, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
Well not everybody in this community was loveable from the start. It may take time for us to grow "attached" (for lack of a better word) to these new members, but I know all too well that nobody is perfect right away.

Whether you like someone or not is all up to chance. I for one don't like a few (anonymous) names in this community. Have they contributed to the community? One of them has indeed, and done quite a lot towards it.

Not exactly what I meant when I said that, sorta. I guess I see far many more people that register and never see in game. I mean, if they don't mod, nor play, nor even inactive players, then they are just random people. This isn't a site for just random people. It's not about me liking them, it's more about this being a site for us Battlefrontians. Though if I where talking about, more "annoying" people, I should immediately shut up and bash my keyboard into a wall as I fear I should keep my mouth, er, fingers shut due to my early time here.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Samistheone on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: ևltimσ on November 15, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
I am on this site for hours and hours most days, constantly checking for new updates, things to talk about, and things to search for when they cross my mind. The hours I spend around here, I always notice the "Who's Online" bar and always notice a registered member who is either brand new or they have very few posts on the site but I've been around for awhile. It makes me wonder a lot why the site isn't more engaging to more members of the community. I want these community members to come and be a true part of the community, but hardly any of them ever do. People always register to download a few mods, maybe lurk some of the forums, but never seem to hang around or say "Hello" very often at all. So, I've been pondering... why is it like this?

Then I realized... We are old- The site is old. It's not hip- not flashy- not attractive to audiences in modern terms. I look at it again and again, but always notice the 3 main colors of the default site layout- Black, Gray, and White. Dull colors. Don't get me wrong, many popular sites today still use White- such as YouTube, Reddit... White is fine; We've just managed to make White dull with other dull colors. We're a Star Wars: Battlefront site. I think it's time to upgrade to a Default theme that represents the game we play! Who can forget the classic Battlefront look with blue backgrounds, orange headers and white text? Everyone in our community is accustomed to it, and I think it would be a very nice addition to have! But don't get me wrong, I absolutely do love the current default layout... but we need some flavor! Something to engage an audience that is once again growing, even after the Gamespy shut-out. When we represent dull colors, we look dull too! I'm not saying we should completely destroy the theme we have all grown on; Like I said, White is nice. White works, White is still in style. But, let's add some seasoning on top of the White- Change the header backgrounds to something Orange... Maybe add a little blue in somewhere. Hey, what's wrong with classic SWBF colors?

But wait, there's still something else missing... I think we should have a page in our community for all the Photos and Videos we make. Currently, we make thread after thread- Reply after reply for our different photos and videos, so I'm suggesting we have our own little Community page for our Photos and Videos. Heck, we could even make Webs host it and have an external link to it! Perhaps being able to display our fun memories with the community will engage our growing audience, instead of making them go to YouTube and XFire photos.

You got to realize though colors like if you change the backgrounds and stuff and the colors on what people look at and have to read it will make them get headaches and then later decide not to come on at all, like what you did with the Alpha website, No offence, but it was giving me and I'm sure it was give others a bunch of headaches, there's a difference when it comes to colors, and they make headaches and stuff you should read up on this, I'm sure they have it on the internet somewhere, They showed something about it on the History channel once.

Another thing why make a photos thing for the website and videos thing, face the facts the more stuff that's on a website the more the owners of the thing you used to make it will want more and more money for the more data and bandwidth and how much travelage there is on the website, I mean after all if Led or someone is paying for this I don't think we want him to have to pay even more... I mean really this isn't a business where we make money at this.

Another thing to add people left and don't want to come back because of the people using Aimbot, Radar, and other hacks and cheats that have been made wither they really exist or not, not to mention the fighting and bickering, why else do you think the PLA server rules where strict, and another type of fighting is like what WUSI and FC and 212 was and have been doing for so long, you guys just got to figure it out that stuff is driving people away, so is the swearing and cussing, If someone cusses at you or makes a problem talk to one of the server admins you don't need to get in to a fight on SWBF servers which causes people to leave SWBF, just take it some where else if you insist to do that!

Sorry for the bad punctuation.

Over all I think SWBFGamers is fine how it is, there's not much that really needs to change about how the website is, I think it should mostly stay how it is.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {Alpha} Kiwi on November 17, 2014, 02:15:59 AM
Quote from: Samistheone on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 PM


Another thing why make a photos thing for the website and videos thing, face the facts the more stuff that's on a website the more the owners of the thing you used to make it will want more and more money for the more data and bandwidth and how much travelage there is on the website, I mean after all if Led or someone is paying for this I don't think we want him to have to pay even more... I mean really this isn't a business where we make money at this.



Assuming that space was a problem, it would be possible to make links to videos and pictures which were relevant s Ultimo was saying, a bit like the frag video collection, though tbh it would take ages to do and I'm not sure how much it would be used.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Midsagital on November 17, 2014, 02:34:32 AM
Quote from: {Alpha}.Gen.Kiwi on November 17, 2014, 02:15:59 AM
Assuming that space was a problem, it would be possible to make links to videos and pictures which were relevant s Ultimo was saying, a bit like the frag video collection, though tbh it would take ages to do and I'm not sure how much it would be used.

yeah back in the day this could be useful but that this point that would be useless.

Quote from: Samistheone on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
You got to realize though colors like if you change the backgrounds and stuff and the colors on what people look at and have to read it will make them get headaches and then later decide not to come on at all, like what you did with the Alpha website, No offence, but it was giving me and I'm sure it was give others a bunch of headaches, there's a difference when it comes to colors, and they make headaches and stuff you should read up on this, I'm sure they have it on the internet somewhere, They showed something about it on the History channel once.

Another thing why make a photos thing for the website and videos thing, face the facts the more stuff that's on a website the more the owners of the thing you used to make it will want more and more money for the more data and bandwidth and how much travelage there is on the website, I mean after all if Led or someone is paying for this I don't think we want him to have to pay even more... I mean really this isn't a business where we make money at this.

Another thing to add people left and don't want to come back because of the people using Aimbot, Radar, and other hacks and cheats that have been made wither they really exist or not, not to mention the fighting and bickering, why else do you think the PLA server rules where strict, and another type of fighting is like what WUSI and FC and 212 was and have been doing for so long, you guys just got to figure it out that stuff is driving people away, so is the swearing and cussing, If someone cusses at you or makes a problem talk to one of the server admins you don't need to get in to a fight on SWBF servers which causes people to leave SWBF, just take it some where else if you insist to do that!

Sorry for the bad punctuation.

Over all I think SWBFGamers is fine how it is, there's not much that really needs to change about how the website is, I think it should mostly stay how it is.

i agree with you it took me up until recently to realize it but arguing who is better at a game and spending all your time towards proving your self "better" over other players is pointless. a while ago the competition was probably needed and it was fun but at this point in swbf it's just annoying lol, no one cares anymore.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Unit 33 on November 17, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
[opinion]
With web design, especially for a discussion forum such as this one, form generally follows function.
A simple layout and a neutral palette makes the experience far less distracting.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Joseph on November 18, 2014, 06:47:20 AM
Quote from: {PLA}gdh92 on November 16, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
There's a gaming site I read that allows you to submit articles for the weekend, I'm no author but I'm going to see what I can come up with for battlefront -probably a 'retro review' or just a bit about how it's still going and a link to the Christmas battlefront days. If there are any US sites that are similar it might be worth a try.
I asked BattlefrontNetwork (Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/user/BattlefrontNetwork), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TheBattlefrontNetwork), Twitter (https://twitter.com/BattlefrontHub)) if they'd be willing to "advertise" this december's reunion, and they said yes, and even offered to make a video about it. Also, I'll make a post to the battlefront subreddit.

I'll try the same for Star Wars HQ.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on November 18, 2014, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Joseph on November 18, 2014, 06:47:20 AM
I asked BattlefrontNetwork (Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/user/BattlefrontNetwork), Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TheBattlefrontNetwork), Twitter (https://twitter.com/BattlefrontHub)) if they'd be willing to "advertise" this december's reunion, and they said yes, and even offered to make a video about it. Also, I'll make a post to the battlefront subreddit.

I'll try the same for Star Wars HQ.
Sounds good, hopefully people looking for the new battlefront will see something about this and want to give the original a go.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on November 18, 2014, 09:08:24 AM
I am messaging all comments on starwars battlefront 1 video on youtube about gamemaster.
I give them all informations, all instructions. led's video and swbfgamers links for gamemaster.

:moo:

A lot of people miss the game, they just dont know how get it online.
I have already got some answers !.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Phobos on November 20, 2014, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: Kishy on November 17, 2014, 02:34:32 AM
yeah back in the day this could be useful but that this point that would be useless.

i agree with you it took me up until recently to realize it but arguing who is better at a game and spending all your time towards proving your self "better" over other players is pointless. a while ago the competition was probably needed and it was fun but at this point in swbf it's just annoying lol, no one cares anymore.
the competition is still needed and still keeps the game fun for most players, regardless of your views on this subject. nothing in SWBF is pointless if players enjoy the activity. if you don't, i suggest finding something else to do besides complain over it.

Quote from: Samistheone on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
Another thing to add people left and don't want to come back because of the people using Aimbot, Radar, and other hacks and cheats that have been made wither they really exist or not, not to mention the fighting and bickering, why else do you think the PLA server rules where strict, and another type of fighting is like what WUSI and FC and 212 was and have been doing for so long, you guys just got to figure it out that stuff is driving people away, so is the swearing and cussing, If someone cusses at you or makes a problem talk to one of the server admins you don't need to get in to a fight on SWBF servers which causes people to leave SWBF, just take it some where else if you insist to do that!
Funny how you want to blame FC and various mods, most of which aren't cheats actually, or the server rules other major clans like PLA/WUSI for driving players away. If a player quits SWBF because other players in the server are using a mod, that's their choice. We don't really want players like that in our servers anyway, so if you don't like the swearing, mods, or other server elements which are all a normal part of SWBF (and 90%+ of most other online shooter games) then you can always host your own server which forbids such things for all the players that you claim are being driven away by the current game standards. Not sure I believe such claims however.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Black Water on November 21, 2014, 05:18:54 AM
Quote from: Samistheone on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
Another thing to add people left and don't want to come back because of the people using Aimbot, Radar, and other hacks and cheats that have been made wither they really exist or not, not to mention the fighting and bickering, why else do you think the PLA server rules where strict, and another type of fighting is like what WUSI and FC and 212 was and have been doing for so long, you guys just got to figure it out that stuff is driving people away, so is the swearing and cussing, If someone cusses at you or makes a problem talk to one of the server admins you don't need to get in to a fight on SWBF servers which causes people to leave SWBF, just take it some where else if you insist to do that!
The WUSI/FC/212 competition actually increased activity in my opinion. Once that started dying down, the game started dying down also. Now you hardly see any players from those clans.. maybe because there is not really nothing to compete for. During the FC/212 there was constant fighting... including almost full servers. Don't see how that was bad for the game at all. People just get lives and stop playing this game, nothing else to it.  Except for maybe game master, constant switching tires people out.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: ~PFE~ Sam / Ply1 on November 21, 2014, 05:23:20 AM
People just dont know how play this game again via gamemaster.
People got bored to play it with tunngle. nothing else.
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: Phobos on November 21, 2014, 05:53:00 AM
Quote from: ROYAL on November 21, 2014, 05:23:20 AM
People just dont know how play this game again via gamemaster.
People got bored to play it with tunngle. nothing else.
As Black Water said, most players get bored of a game and move onto the next one, and eventually there are few to no players left. While its good that Majesty is trying to bring back old players, perhaps some communities just shouldn't be bothered with? Many of them are ready to quit playing BF2 also.

http://www.darkjedi.org/club/IGF/comlinks/?f=43&t=1370582&post=6525338

Quotei just got messaged by the PFA Majesty Leader who told me "cough" "harassed" me into getting igf to add swbf1 to the game list or at least get people to get the game and get online. he also told that the swbf1 community is big and booming with 150 people online because he added everybody that had swbf1 on there xfire and told them about gamemaster and told me to do the same.I just wanted to get the top igf members thoughts on this.
QuoteAfter the new BF is released, we'll start phasing out BF2. I mean...it'll still be around for another 6 months or so, to let people have time to get the new one...but eventually it'll be dropped like yesterday's garbage (just like BF1 was).
Title: Re: Engaging a Re-Growing Community
Post by: {PLA}gdh92 on November 21, 2014, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: Black Water on November 21, 2014, 05:18:54 AM
The WUSI/FC/212 competition actually increased activity in my opinion. Once that started dying down, the game started dying down also. Now you hardly see any players from those clans.. maybe because there is not really nothing to compete for. During the FC/212 there was constant fighting... including almost full servers. Don't see how that was bad for the game at all. People just get lives and stop playing this game, nothing else to it.  Except for maybe game master, constant switching tires people out.

I think there's a difference between friendly rivalry like tournaments which adds to the game for a lot of people and when it got nasty here which I assume is what Samistheone meant.

A lot of older games have communities which are divided or have a large section of players that only want to play the game a certain way, I know it's put me of a few other games like Jedi knight. Luckily we've got a good group of players here but we can always do more to welcome new/old players back.

Edit: Jedi knight: Jedi Academy is still fun just really hard to get into with the heavily modded servers and duelling rules, I don't want to put any off. :) There's also some great SP mods including Stargate ones.
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