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Title: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Giftheck on December 01, 2017, 07:20:00 AM
This is a revision of my Valken-38 weapon model. I looked at screenshots of The Empire Strikes Back and made a realisation: that gun Dengar is holding is NOT a DLT-19, so I did a Google search. Turns out that Dengar is holding an unnamed gun very similar to the Valken-38, but based entirely off the MG-42 instead of what the Valken-38X is based off (the barrel of the MG-34 and the rear end of the FG-42). So I went back and did this to make it more accurate to the weapon Dengar wields in The Empire Strikes Back.

[spoiler](https://i.imgur.com/sB2vZ5F.jpg)[/spoiler]

DOWNLOAD (https://mega.nz/#!gU5x2YrS!MzJBv-uJnru0iGnqR6FxRkboAQZIMewGiX0qXGZViwc)
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Luna-old on December 02, 2017, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: Gistech on December 01, 2017, 07:20:00 AM
This is a revision of my Valken-38 weapon model. I looked at screenshots of The Empire Strikes Back and made a realisation: that gun Dengar is holding is NOT a DLT-19, so I did a Google search. Turns out that Dengar is holding an unnamed gun very similar to the Valken-38, but based entirely off the MG-42 instead of what the Valken-38X is based off (the barrel of the MG-34 and the rear end of the FG-42). So I went back and did this to make it more accurate to the weapon Dengar wields in The Empire Strikes Back.

[spoiler](https://i.imgur.com/sB2vZ5F.jpg)[/spoiler]

DOWNLOAD (https://mega.nz/#!gU5x2YrS!MzJBv-uJnru0iGnqR6FxRkboAQZIMewGiX0qXGZViwc)

It's not the DLT-19? Then we've all been wrong this entire time?
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Giftheck on December 02, 2017, 04:16:12 AM
Quote from: Nyx on December 02, 2017, 01:37:31 AM
It's not the DLT-19? Then we've all been wrong this entire time?

Yup. Confusing matters is a publicity shot from TESB in which Dengar is holding a DLT-19 but in the film itself, it's this gun instead. This is reflected in the Sideshow Collectibles figure:

[spoiler](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54a600dbe4b0243cdd4a5365/5931788886e6c039a8d27f18/59317e612e69cf553b53ac3b/1496416412699/SW+SS+DENGAR6.png)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Led on December 02, 2017, 06:30:16 AM
I have no recollection of this scene having been in the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmPIJvkoOI0

:shrug:
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Giftheck on December 02, 2017, 06:39:59 AM
Quote from: Led on December 02, 2017, 06:30:16 AM
I have no recollection of this scene having been in the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmPIJvkoOI0

:shrug:

Yeah, his appearance was pretty much just a cameo and it was essentially 'cut' but he is definitely among the lineup of bounty hunters in that scene. He also cameos in ROTJ but there he's holding an MPL-57 instead.

Here's one of the publicity stills for TESB (with the DLT-19):

[spoiler](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G2Fo4nVwOt0/hqdefault.jpg)[/spoiler]

Here's the screenshot of the filming for that scene (Dengar is next to IG-88 but the camera stopped before it got to him). It might not be so easy to see but you can see the barrel of an MG-42 instead of an MG-34:

[spoiler](https://i.imgur.com/xbmoZqT.jpg)
(https://www.swbfgamers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobscottcpa.com%2Fassets%2Fimg%2Ffan-fiction-story%2Fdengar.jpg&hash=a666ad4f06a4f1c2947a5d3f5ddbe8ffb18bb558)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Dark_Phantom on December 02, 2017, 09:53:15 AM
Yeah he's just barely there in the movie. He became a bigger character in the EU. And now in Lego shows and EA SWBF
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: 1ИCΘ6И17Θ on December 07, 2017, 01:04:16 AM
This ain't Sci-Fi anymore, that thing's straight from WW2, they weren't very creative with this one, lol...  :P

I get strong steampunk vibes from it though...
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Giftheck on December 07, 2017, 01:14:28 AM
Quote from: i|\|(06|\|i70 on December 07, 2017, 01:04:16 AM
This ain't Sci-Fi anymore, that thing's straight from WW2, they weren't very creative with this one, lol...  :P

I get strong steampunk vibes from it though...

Well, the DLT-19 was just an MG-34 with a few additional barrel pieces. I read the new "Behind the Helmet" book and a lot of the props were recycled WW2 guns as they were on a budget. The canon version, the Valken-38X, is just the barrel of the MG-42 attached to the handle of an FG-42. I'm guessing given Dengar wasn't seen up close you weren't supposed to see the gun in detail.
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: 1ИCΘ6И17Θ on December 07, 2017, 01:50:09 AM
So technically the gun ain't canon... Despite being part of the movie...
Your model strongly reminds me of the Blaster Machinegun from Galactic Warfare, I wonder which model they used as a reference... And... I'm staritng to get a bit confused with the names... I also thought it was the DLT-19.  :confused:
Title: Re: TESB Valken-38
Post by: Giftheck on December 07, 2017, 01:57:23 AM
Quote from: i|\|(06|\|i70 on December 07, 2017, 01:50:09 AM
So technically the gun ain't canon... Despite being part of the movie...
Your model strongly reminds me of the Blaster Machinegun from Galactic Warfare, I wonder which model they used as a reference... And... I'm staritng to get a bit confused with the names... I also thought it was the DLT-19.  :confused:

Well, the gun is canon as it should have appeared in film. It's the same case as with the DLT-19 and the DLT-19X - the DLT-19 is the machine gun and the DLT-19X is the sniper rifle modification. As for the name, this one is the Valken-38. Look at it this way: the Valken-38 is based off the MG42 while the DLT-19  is based off the MG34. They're similar at a glance but up close there are obvious differences. In fact the old DC-15X from the original games resembles the MG42 with a scope.

In the promo still and in the 2015 Battlefront title, Dengar wields a DLT-19. In the behind-the-scenes shot above he wields the Valken-38. The 2015 title uses the DLT-19 - probably because of the promo shot, and the fact they had the DLT-19 model already. They did recycle models where possible.
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