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Title: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ultimo on February 12, 2013, 07:21:51 PM
Eeyup, Algebra sucks. Well, It's easy, but my teacher is mentally challenged and so I'm failing the class. While I managed to sneak my way onto swbfgamers, this is probably my only chance to tell everyone that I'll be grounded for another month or so. Until then, goodbye my people. You guys keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: aeria. on February 12, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
Algebra is lightwork. You need to devote more time into memorizing the basic rules of algebra. Start with the basics and work up. Having that will get you a long way.

Wait until you take college level Calculus. Not high school calc. College calc.

Then you'll wish you'll be doing algebra.


I highly doubt you have a mentally challenged teacher. To teach is a skill alone and being mentally challenged, even if capable of doing mathematics, should disqualify you from being a high school teacher. High school kids need to be controlled in the classroom and taught at the same time.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Helios on February 12, 2013, 08:02:39 PM
Thanks now i really cant wait for college or university aeria  :dry:
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: AreĀ§ on February 12, 2013, 09:18:19 PM
I'm currently taking an AP Calc course in high school that covers Ab and BC Calc (College calc 1 and 2). ... It sucks  :'( but the good news is once i pass the AP test i wont need to take any calc in college  :D algebra is simple
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: BlackScorpion on February 12, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: aeria. on February 12, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
Algebra is lightwork. You need to devote more time into memorizing the basic rules of algebra. Start with the basics and work up. Having that will get you a long way.

Wait until you take college level Calculus. Not high school calc. College calc.

Then you'll wish you'll be doing algebra.


I highly doubt you have a mentally challenged teacher. To teach is a skill alone and being mentally challenged, even if capable of doing mathematics, should disqualify you from being a high school teacher. High school kids need to be controlled in the classroom and taught at the same time.

As an aside, what textbook do you use?  Thomas'?

Quote from: AreĀ§ on February 12, 2013, 09:18:19 PM
I'm currently taking an AP Calc course in high school that covers Ab and BC Calc (College calc 1 and 2). ... It sucks  :'( but the good news is once i pass the AP test i wont need to take any calc in college  :D algebra is simple

What's the AP textbook?
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: RepComm on February 12, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: Nobility on February 12, 2013, 07:21:51 PM
Eeyup, Algebra sucks. Well, It's easy, but my teacher is mentally challenged and so I'm failing the class. While I managed to sneak my way onto swbfgamers, this is probably my only chance to tell everyone that I'll be grounded for another month or so. Until then, goodbye my people. You guys keep up the good work.
I cannot stand Algebra either, but yu have to learn it, these people that run our society require alot of lame knowledge from us...

You could easily live without most mathematics, it isn't extremely necessary.
But you can live life way easier if you just learn it, I know I sound just as bad as some adult now, but trust me, it's worth the effort. (I am a year and a half above my grade in math, so it's not like I have it as easy as anyone else)
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Joseph on February 12, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Mathematics education, especially at the High School, is abysmal. Even if you do do well in it there's no guarantee that you will have any great understanding of what you're doing. Unfortunately the attitude of most teachers is "shut up and calculate", they only want to get through their planned lessons as expediently as possible and have no desire (and in all likelihood, no capability) of conveying genuine understanding. I know this from personal experience, the experience of my HS age sister, and the general observation of math students of all ages.

[I've seen several mathematicians remark that they want the standard AP-level High School Math to be Statistics(!), as a sort-of damage control because students come to college with such a shoddy understanding of calculus. This is a symptom of the general problem that High school math is not math properly speaking, it is just training human calculators. For me at least, only in 9th grade Geometry was I exposed to "proofs" and this was done in such a confusing way that I'm confident that everyone in the class was utterly alienated from this way of thinking (including me at the time).

In fact I think "Symbolic Logic" should be taught at the High School level at the same time as geometry.]

For those who are saying "lol algebra is easy", well, it's very easy to say that after you've learned it, but unhelpful. You might as well type "wyn68vm9cmqawtm9" on the screen. The best advice I can give Nobility is, use the internet. I particularly recommend the YouTube videos of PatrickJMT (http://www.youtube.com/user/patrickJMT) - he's very helpful and will probably explain better in 10 minutes what your teacher tried to do in an hour. Or just type in whatever you're learning into Youtube. You can cover a lot of ground fast this way.

So long story short, please don't feel bad and please don't get turned off of math just because your teacher blows.

PS, I thought that, relatively speaking, college calculus was way easier than my HS Algebra II class. Probably because my instructors were competent.

PPS, Thomas is not a very good book, the world would be a better place if everyone learned from Spivak ( a masterpiece)

Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on February 12, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
You could easily live without most mathematics, it isn't extremely necessary.
You could easily live without everything except food, water, and a little jail cell to sleep in.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: SirPimped on February 12, 2013, 10:52:07 PM
Quote from: [FC]Helios on February 12, 2013, 08:02:39 PM
Thanks now i really cant wait for college or university aeria  :dry:
That's only if your major requires it. I am an accounting major and will not have to take a calc. course to graduate with my Bachelor of Science in Accounting.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Darth Verik on February 12, 2013, 11:29:49 PM
Im doing a bachelor of business (no math!!!!) As a graduate i'll be doing HR-management, and the only thing you'll get is business, law, finance, HR-coaching, social media, excel and so on...
For the rest it's all good fun, so no worrying about college or university!
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Black Water on February 13, 2013, 03:44:55 AM
My county is weird, we took algerba 1 then 2, now we are taking geometry, I had gotten all A's and B's until I reached pre algebra in 7th, to me it was so difficult, then in 8th in Algebra 1 I failed a quarter...Algebra 2 I did way better, now I love algebra, so easy, but right now I'm in geometry, I hate proofs....
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Carbon27 on February 13, 2013, 06:21:42 AM
Quote from: -RepublicCommando- on February 12, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
I cannot stand Algebra either, but yu have to learn it, these people that run our society require alot of lame knowledge from us...

You could easily live without most mathematics, it isn't extremely necessary.
If there was no math there would be no computers or video game consoles, none of those means no SWBF. MATH = SWBF
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: tirpider on February 13, 2013, 07:26:02 AM
I need to figure these out (Quaternions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion)), in order to fix all the broken meshes floating around.

Mr. Hamilton got the basics set up in the mid 1800's, and it seems every developer out there understands them except for me.

Stay in school, kids.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Carbon27 on February 13, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: tirpider on February 13, 2013, 07:26:02 AM
I need to figure these out (Quaternions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion)), in order to fix all the broken meshes floating around.

Mr. Hamilton got the basics set up in the mid 1800's, and it seems every developer out there understands them except for me.

Stay in school, kids.
Man thats pretty easy to understand  ( im being sarcastic )
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on February 13, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: Josh on February 13, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Man thats pretty easy to understand  ( im being sarcastic )
Matter of opinion
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Sereja on February 13, 2013, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Joseph on February 12, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
You could easily live without everything except food, water, and a little jail cell to sleep in.
Nice phylosophy!  :tu:
Algebra, is realy most hard for understanding subject, as everything, connected with calculation. When I was in school, I was grounded all the time, because of this. Still, it's dosn't help me much :wacko:.
Only, with time, after many, many years, of hard learning, I making this question, more clear for myself. Well, maybe I am still do not understand nothing, about Algebra, or math at all, but I learn, how to focus myself, on any subject, and try to reach perfection, at any work, I ever do.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ultimo on February 13, 2013, 10:20:10 AM
I'm glad you are all happy to talk about math! Yeah thanks for the "goodbye's" and "cya Later's", guys...  :dry:
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: {212th} Ldr. Norris on February 13, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Nobility on February 13, 2013, 10:20:10 AM
I'm glad you are all happy to talk about math! Yeah thanks for the "goodbye's" and "cya Later's", guys...  :dry:
The topic name is "Algebra Sucks" Not "Say goodbye because I am grounded"  :D

At any rate I find Algebra extremely easy and it was one of my favorite classes :tu:

P.S. Hope to see you back sooner than later, Nobility  :wave:
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Gold Man on February 13, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
Aye, see ya later Nobility! :D
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Unit 33 on February 13, 2013, 10:59:41 PM
Mathematics indeed! Academics ha ha ha!  Oh sorry it's just great being in the creative industry sometimes.

Nobody's great at everything but you should give it your best shot anyway.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: {212}FrenchFryZ on February 14, 2013, 04:54:42 AM
Quote from: -[212]- Mart on February 13, 2013, 03:44:55 AM
My county is weird, we took algerba 1 then 2, now we are taking geometry, I had gotten all A's and B's until I reached pre algebra in 7th, to me it was so difficult, then in 8th in Algebra 1 I failed a quarter...Algebra 2 I did way better, now I love algebra, so easy, but right now I'm in geometry, I hate proofs....
It's like that very much over here in Ye Olde Kentucky Home, except I'm still in middle school(jr high) and I am taking geometry in 8th grade :( Algebra was easy but in per-algebra I know what he means by 'mental' teacher because my teacher hit us but he got fired the next year so I can't really complain.  :XD:
Anyway I hope to see again soon Nobility!
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: {PLA} Van STING on February 14, 2013, 09:50:17 AM
Algebra is pretty easy for me. I like Geometry better.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Dbiz on February 14, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
I'm a math terrorist, with close ties to Al-Gebra, with weapons of mass instruction
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: RepComm on February 14, 2013, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: Dbiz on February 14, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
I'm a math terrorist, with close ties to Al-Gebra, with weapons of mass instruction
Lol! Nice
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on February 15, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
Quote from: Dbiz on February 14, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
I'm a math terrorist, with close ties to Al-Gebra, with weapons of mass instruction
Cool, I want some !!
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ltin on February 15, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: Dbiz on February 14, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
I'm a math terrorist, with close ties to Al-Gebra, with weapons of mass instruction
that nearly killed me! WIN  :champ: :champ:
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ultimo on February 15, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Sorry I said anything about "No Goodbye's" or wutever. The stress of trying to sneak online gets to me. Also, after re-reading my Report Card in Algebra, I realized that I have Perfect Scores (100, A+) on all my homework assignments, but I've somehow failed all of the tests.  ???
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: RepComm on February 15, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
Quote from: Nobility on February 15, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Sorry I said anything about "No Goodbye's" or wutever. The stress of trying to sneak online gets to me. Also, after re-reading my Report Card in Algebra, I realized that I have Perfect Scores (100, A+) on all my homework assignments, but I've somehow failed all of the tests.  ???
Tell me about it  :dry:
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Helios on February 15, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
My lowest mark last semester was an 85 :D yay things will probably change next year :(
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: {212}FrenchFryZ on February 15, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
My lowest mark last report was a 95, in per-enginnerring which should be a fun class but we have the worst teacher so we get nothing done.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Black Water on February 15, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
Most teachers grade homework on wheter it is completed or not, not if it is right. I mean really, who has the time to grade 100 papers everyday? Not to mention quizzes and tests. That is why I write random stuff down sometimes for a 100 lol.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Helios on February 15, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
They just check completion at my school, but test and quizes are always marked lol
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Gold Man on February 15, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
I got like a 92 last semester in math. Though it was applied because I suck at math. :P I remember last year I passed math with a 50%. At my school, all work is marked, quizzes and all, and they even make sure you got stuff right. As long as it's completed, and has the right answers, you get your marks. :P
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ltin on February 16, 2013, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: {Alpha}Gold Man on February 15, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
I got like a 92 last semester in math. Though it was applied because I suck at math. :P I remember last year I passed math with a 50%. At my school, all work is marked, quizzes and all, and they even make sure you got stuff right. As long as it's completed, and has the right answers, you get your marks. :P
my teacher does this odd thing where he doesnt check our homework untill a specific date, and then we copy down a few problems and turn that in, and he grades them for correcness.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: Ultimo on March 12, 2013, 09:05:23 AM
Hey everyone I'm back for a little while. I honestly don't know how long for sure and it may only be today. But I'm back, and I haven't got my new PC yet so I can't do SWBF2 or SWBFLAN right now.
Title: Re: Algebra Sucks
Post by: -=(212) Nixo=- on March 12, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
Then welcome back for however long you will be !!
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